If MVPs Were Given to the BEST Player... (2010s)

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  • The NBA gives its MVP awards to players who meet certain criterias... but what if the MVP was just given to the best player? We're looking at who would win it in those cases from the 2010s.
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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  Před 3 lety +739

    Which MVP snub deserves the award?

    • @tya7664
      @tya7664 Před 3 lety +43

      dirk

    • @tya7664
      @tya7664 Před 3 lety +132

      dirk for 2019 mvp

    • @d44detzyzry6e8
      @d44detzyzry6e8 Před 3 lety +15

      Chicago gang wya?

    • @swaggawagga5235
      @swaggawagga5235 Před 3 lety +16

      @@tya7664 u stupid

    • @Yruke
      @Yruke Před 3 lety +56

      In my opinion Harden should have 4 MVP awards. 2015, 2017, 2018 and 2019

  • @danielschafer3296
    @danielschafer3296 Před 3 lety +2582

    In 2014, Kevin Durant was named the league MVP, but in this new format, he loses the award to his mom, the real MVP.

    • @bubbletea6934
      @bubbletea6934 Před 3 lety +38

      His mom underrated as f

    • @fanwee5048
      @fanwee5048 Před 3 lety +12

      Stolen

    • @camrose306
      @camrose306 Před 2 lety +11

      @Oregato769 from where? Also there’s 7 billion people in the world it’s stupid to think two people can’t think of the same joke or something similar

    • @Biggrittz
      @Biggrittz Před 2 lety +39

      @Oregato769 in 2021, Dainel Schafer Was Named the Most liked comment award, but in this New format. He loses to the award to Oregato769.
      Depsite Daniel’s amazing output, with performance of 1012 Likes, 5 Comments, and a hearted Comment From Jonny On 52.2% Positive Rating. People undermine the context this year, Dainel actually had equal commenting skills to oregato. Whom might have not had the like amount of Dainel, but DWARFS Dainel’s positive rating percentage with 64.9% .. this year, in this format the award should have went to oregato.

    • @mexicanmegamind1881
      @mexicanmegamind1881 Před 2 lety +3

      In all seriousness his mom was a G

  • @ACIMRobert
    @ACIMRobert Před 3 lety +1461

    KD: You the real MVP
    Jonny: Actually this year they lose the award....

    • @aiden-tee636
      @aiden-tee636 Před 3 lety +1

      you mean

    • @AidanK_
      @AidanK_ Před 3 lety +102

      "Actually the award goes to... Lebron's mom. She is the more complete mom"

    • @ryanadam3720
      @ryanadam3720 Před 3 lety +33

      Aidan Delonte west agrees

    • @lebronforpresident2359
      @lebronforpresident2359 Před 3 lety +9

      😭😭 this comment is fucking hilarious

    • @ethan9409
      @ethan9409 Před 3 lety +8

      Aidan her caregiving efficiency was way higher then Durant’s mother. Her discipline stats are off the charts.

  • @jj4284
    @jj4284 Před 3 lety +363

    Durant gets mvp:
    Jonny: he looses the award to his mom

  • @abdulmalekrk3693
    @abdulmalekrk3693 Před 3 lety +562

    2019 James Harden was an absolute phenomenon. The dude averaged 36 per GAME!
    30p for 32 games streak
    Had 61 points twice
    Dropped 50+ booms 7 times two of them were back-to-back games!
    20 time had a 40+ points!
    I know Harden is one of the most hatted players in the league, but even the biggest hatter could not neglect this phenomenal season.

    • @pillsenthe3rd795
      @pillsenthe3rd795 Před 3 lety +70

      Yeah its so sad knowing that the nba will never appreciate harden

    • @abdulmalekrk3693
      @abdulmalekrk3693 Před 3 lety +24

      senyon selt
      Harden most take it to the next level and win a championship. The NBA will never appreciate him because of his style of playing. So he should force them to do so.

    • @pillsenthe3rd795
      @pillsenthe3rd795 Před 3 lety +7

      @@abdulmalekrk3693 Yeah but i dont see him winning a championship without a big change occurring to him or his team.

    • @abdulmalekrk3693
      @abdulmalekrk3693 Před 3 lety +2

      Leland Joseph
      This is not a stats.
      I walked you through James Harden scoring in 61 games. With remainder that I didn’t mention assist or steal which considered a good features on Harden.
      With q huge reminder that Giannes playing in the East which is the weaker said of the NBA.
      If you played in any type of organization basketball you would know who difficult to score 30 points in one night.

    • @jonathandowe83
      @jonathandowe83 Před 3 lety +15

      @Leland Joseph harden was the only team to take the super team warriors to 7, and could have won without the cp3 injury. So I think those stats perfectly showcase value

  • @johnpeter2762
    @johnpeter2762 Před 3 lety +2648

    different title
    "How LeBron dominates the NBA in 2010s and could've won more MVP's award"

    • @100kkeese3
      @100kkeese3 Před 3 lety +345

      Correction; should’ve won more(not a LeBron fan)

    • @arnar5079
      @arnar5079 Před 3 lety +241

      Pick any team in the playoffs and they are a serious contender in the 90s

    • @Top-Kek
      @Top-Kek Před 3 lety +79

      “Dominates the nba” *loses 5 NBA finals*

    • @spiderman4207
      @spiderman4207 Před 3 lety +217

      Top Kek only 1 of those loses was his fault

    • @jamesryan6458
      @jamesryan6458 Před 3 lety +3

      imagine lebron win all 8 award hahaha

  • @bamshakfwangyil1301
    @bamshakfwangyil1301 Před 3 lety +1262

    tbh Curry's MVP numbers were due to him playing significantly less minutes than any other MVPs. In fact the lowest minutes played by an MVP ever are '15 curry then '16 curry. Those low numbers were simply cause he blew teams out, still easily deserved the award

    • @AB-kk4lf
      @AB-kk4lf Před 3 lety +79

      Currys per 36 in '15 is 26 and 9 mvp level for sure

    • @gabrielsykes4125
      @gabrielsykes4125 Před 3 lety +57

      True but remember he’s not using team success as a swaying factor you could make a case for Davis, and Harden’s MVP odds in 2015 even though their team success was mediocre compared to Curry’s, but 2016? Not even close in fact 20 games in I truly believe Curry stole that award and ran off with it. No one could even come close to Curry’s historical dominance in 2016, I’d even argue that his “2016” season is a top 3 MVP season of all time behind MJ’s, and SHAQ’s.

    • @csorare
      @csorare Před 3 lety +2

      He also won due to more emotional reasons

    • @acetv5333
      @acetv5333 Před 3 lety +15

      @@jasonmoukala8909 Of course, but '16 Curry dominance is insane.

    • @jasonmoukala8909
      @jasonmoukala8909 Před 3 lety

      No Name That’s fax

  • @QaamansLand
    @QaamansLand Před 3 lety +1369

    Don't forget that in 2014 KD mostly won MVP because Russ was injured for the first half of the year.
    KD got OKC to 59 wins with his second best player hurt and that made voters pick him over LeBron.

    • @TheDbgtfan23
      @TheDbgtfan23 Před 3 lety +7

      Ayyy qaaman

    • @SmittySmith-ev8fo
      @SmittySmith-ev8fo Před 3 lety +3

      False

    • @SmittySmith-ev8fo
      @SmittySmith-ev8fo Před 3 lety +34

      They pick him. Because hes deserve. Kd should have 3 mvp 2012,2013,2014, I'm done good day

    • @geeyawn1160
      @geeyawn1160 Před 3 lety +99

      @@SmittySmith-ev8fo nope kd isnt great defensively before...and lebron had better effeciency rate

    • @SmittySmith-ev8fo
      @SmittySmith-ev8fo Před 3 lety +8

      @@geeyawn1160 sorry I hurt your feelings it's ok if your wrong

  • @elijahdelacruz3204
    @elijahdelacruz3204 Před 3 lety +323

    "I think we us a basketball community have already lost track of how incredible Steph Curry was during the 2016 season"
    Straight facts right there

    • @sui_comet
      @sui_comet Před 3 lety +3

      Especially now

    • @txcNexus
      @txcNexus Před 2 lety +2

      2020 steph is amazing as well

    • @andale_andale
      @andale_andale Před 2 lety +2

      @@txcNexus you mean 2021?

    • @txcNexus
      @txcNexus Před 2 lety +1

      @@andale_andale last year steph

    • @snowy1142
      @snowy1142 Před 2 lety

      Not during the playoffs tho

  • @gavinreid7442
    @gavinreid7442 Před 3 lety +1605

    10 more years and you can make this video again😂, facts!

  • @wessteinfeld3337
    @wessteinfeld3337 Před 3 lety +473

    Curry Man... 50/40/90!! People so easily forget that's INSANE!! 46% 3pt percentage?!! Sheeeeeeesh!!!!

    • @Greenfrom3
      @Greenfrom3 Před 3 lety +8

      I hate his guts. But he's absolutely nasty.

    • @owenridenhour5264
      @owenridenhour5264 Před 3 lety +5

      Wes Steinfeld what’s crazy is that 46 percent still isn’t the highest 3 point percentage in a season

    • @Greenfrom3
      @Greenfrom3 Před 3 lety +21

      @@owenridenhour5264 Yeah Didn't Korver have 54% or some crazy shit?

    • @wessteinfeld3337
      @wessteinfeld3337 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Greenfrom3 Got Dayummm

    • @silverfang4583
      @silverfang4583 Před 3 lety +4

      @@owenridenhour5264 In saying that didn't he have the highest 3 point attempts that season or bloody close so it kinda evens out a bit

  • @doscruzz
    @doscruzz Před 3 lety +331

    How about a "If the MVP Award included the playoffs"

    • @GeneralthekidPlaysMC
      @GeneralthekidPlaysMC Před 3 lety +195

      Then it would be LeBron every year 😂

    • @doscruzz
      @doscruzz Před 3 lety +15

      @@GeneralthekidPlaysMC facts

    • @4babyk425
      @4babyk425 Před 3 lety +36

      Lebron would win every year

    • @CzarAice01
      @CzarAice01 Před 3 lety +2

      LeBron wins every year

    • @blackscreen1810
      @blackscreen1810 Před 3 lety

      @@GeneralthekidPlaysMC no other wouldnt cause hed be playing the bums in the east

  • @envoxzerth3312
    @envoxzerth3312 Před 3 lety +26

    D rose was just a human highlight loved him back in the day

  • @BigYARK
    @BigYARK Před 3 lety +505

    Kareem's got a decade's worth of MVPs in this format 😂

    • @exwhyzgaming8996
      @exwhyzgaming8996 Před 3 lety +4

      exactly

    • @willz3421
      @willz3421 Před 3 lety +28

      He played his prime in the 70’s so it makes sense

    • @robdadon2022
      @robdadon2022 Před 3 lety +9

      That's why you simply just don't give it to the best player that would be goofy

    • @BigYARK
      @BigYARK Před 3 lety +28

      @SkyH23 personally, the 70s are underrated imo and full of talent. There were stars spread throughout the league, but no dynasties. If I'm not mistaken, Lakers missed the playoffs that year because of the outdated format of team selection. By today's standard, they would've been seeded. If anything it shows how badass Kareem was to win MVP and not make the playoffs. Dude put up 27.7pts 16.9reb 5ast 4.1blks and 1.5 stls

    • @SuperMisteryMan01
      @SuperMisteryMan01 Před 3 lety +2

      SkyH23 there is still athletes back then anyways but you’re not gonna know about it unless you go and find the footage.
      If I’m not mistaken the 70’s besides the 80’s and 90’s also has a vast amount of talented centers and big men

  • @SuperWoodb
    @SuperWoodb Před 3 lety +408

    When I heard Anthony Davis, I thought no way he's about to convince me that AD should've won MVP, but then he actually did.

    • @Rk-xx1sg
      @Rk-xx1sg Před 3 lety +32

      it's cap lol immaculate cap ad didn't deserve it

    • @Hak616
      @Hak616 Před 3 lety +11

      That was shocking, but looks legit in retrospect in context to where AD is and the feats he is pulling off in the playoffs

    • @Rk-xx1sg
      @Rk-xx1sg Před 3 lety +6

      @@Hak616 nah ad never been mvp material so far in his career apart from this year

    • @hastaar2161
      @hastaar2161 Před 3 lety +2

      He got lucky cuz Curry had two mvp years if not he would get clamped

    • @z0tl410
      @z0tl410 Před 3 lety

      1 k 🧢

  • @michaeljordan6074
    @michaeljordan6074 Před 3 lety +3

    I like how unbiased your videos are and how much you really look into the numbers. Ngl I never would have thought about that ad MVP pick toll now. You just earned a sub. Keep up the good work

  • @comahan
    @comahan Před 3 lety +46

    Harden "solid" in 2015? Come on, man. 27-6-7-2 on 61% true shooting, and led the league in win shares. Thats literally the formula you used to give others the award and you didn't even run down his year, as if he wasnt in the conversation.
    He was also clearly the best player in 2018.

    • @TheKendeHD
      @TheKendeHD Před 3 lety +5

      and forsure 2019

    • @banterlona8166
      @banterlona8166 Před 3 lety +4

      I'm convinced he just doesn't like harden smh

    • @aaravv.5649
      @aaravv.5649 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheKendeHD no LeBron got robbed in 2018

    • @chrisuncleahmad
      @chrisuncleahmad Před 2 lety +5

      2015 Harden led an injured Rockets team to a 2 seed in a division where LITERALLY THE ENTIRE SOUTHWEST DIVISION MADE THE PLAYOFFS

    • @coltonkrum6491
      @coltonkrum6491 Před 2 lety +1

      If you factor in defense as being equally important as offense, I wouldn't say that he was the best player, but he definitely deserves props for his work then

  • @envymeh_
    @envymeh_ Před 3 lety +333

    That AD MVP caught me off guard!

    • @Rk-xx1sg
      @Rk-xx1sg Před 3 lety +32

      Lol ad definitely should not have won

    • @MrPhilbautista
      @MrPhilbautista Před 3 lety +12

      Just goes to show why Curry was definitely the right choice IRL.

    • @Abcdefg-rk8jk
      @Abcdefg-rk8jk Před 3 lety +6

      @@MrPhilbautista ah 15 was harden

    • @droland3949
      @droland3949 Před 3 lety +30

      @ALONZO.ADDISON 103858 did you watch the video??? team win rates were not counted.

    • @younggod3906
      @younggod3906 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MrPhilbautista facts

  • @HoelJ
    @HoelJ Před 3 lety +354

    2020: alex caruso
    keeps

  • @iEliTePg
    @iEliTePg Před 3 lety +1

    Love that you added in the list at the end for old/new winners at the end. Perfect addition.
    Glad to see a youtuber who reads comments 🙌🏽🙌🏽 big fan now

  • @Jearbearjenkins
    @Jearbearjenkins Před 2 lety +6

    So I tallied each video’s results cause I had free time and (keep in mind that this excludes the 50s and 60s) these are the rankings:
    1. Kareem (9)
    2. MJ (8)
    3. Lebron (6)
    4. Shaq (3)
    Kobe (3)
    Moses Malone (3)
    5. Karl Malone (2)
    Kevin Garnett (2)
    Larry Bird (2)
    6. (All have 1 MVP)
    Jerry West
    Bob McAdoo
    Hakeem
    Robinson
    Tim Duncan
    Magic
    CP3
    KD
    Steph Curry
    AD
    Westbrook
    Giannis

    • @bbbggg5709
      @bbbggg5709 Před 2 lety

      Lol nahhhh I think every mvp is well selected

  • @hyendacraener1672
    @hyendacraener1672 Před 3 lety +472

    I don’t know how you only have 60k you go extremely in depth in how players are better than they seem, like last episode when you did the 90’s you gave Charles Barkley and David Robinson credit for their great seasons even though they weren’t talked about as much, Thank for giving me some content for quarantine 👍

    • @ACIMRobert
      @ACIMRobert Před 3 lety +8

      Very accurate comment

    • @Life_Basketball
      @Life_Basketball Před 3 lety +2

      @Nicholas Garcia yeah fax

    • @kizvy
      @kizvy Před 3 lety +3

      @Nicholas Garcia agree

    • @Spuurtzithink
      @Spuurtzithink Před 3 lety +1

      Accurate he deserves at least 5 mil

    • @hyendacraener1672
      @hyendacraener1672 Před 3 lety

      Darryl Davis no I’m just saying that given Michael, Magic, and other superstars were more talked about and vocal, David Robinson was never a media fan like Tim Duncan and the spurs were, and Charles Barkley is looked at and said “how the hell did that guy win mvp?”I was just saying how those guys need more credit while putting up those stats during a hard era.

  • @chanendlerbong
    @chanendlerbong Před 3 lety +542

    That 2011 Rose and 2016 Curry are very special MVPs

    • @blackmamba2k899
      @blackmamba2k899 Před 3 lety +118

      D rose MVP year has now become a bit overrated...

    • @409p
      @409p Před 3 lety +141

      @@blackmamba2k899 yes it was a great season but people act like he averaged 50 points 25 rebounds and 25 assists

    • @abizitgill4310
      @abizitgill4310 Před 3 lety +92

      They are the reason why I believe context, the teammates, the record, and the story of the season do matter somewhat,
      Without context stats are just empty numbers

    • @owethunala2632
      @owethunala2632 Před 3 lety +16

      @@409p no... Ur only looking at the stats and not the context if you need me to explain jus say

    • @owethunala2632
      @owethunala2632 Před 3 lety +4

      @@blackmamba2k899 no...

  • @jordandavis3867
    @jordandavis3867 Před rokem +4

    That 2016 season by Curry is a reason why he is in my top 10. Noone will ever replicate that level of efficiency. He was operating like a video game.

  • @44strat
    @44strat Před 3 lety +14

    Would be interesting to see this applied to finals MVP where with the exception of Jerry West has always been given to a player on the Winning Team.

  • @heimtime_lifting
    @heimtime_lifting Před 3 lety +258

    Analytically Lebron beats Rose, but analytics don’t do Rose justice. His season was one of the few ever I would describe as magical. Dom2k did a video on why he should have won and it did it so much more justice than I can in this comment so I recommend you check it out.

    • @benperez8291
      @benperez8291 Před 3 lety +59

      Roses season is becoming so overrated it’s fuckin unreal

    • @benperez8291
      @benperez8291 Před 3 lety +28

      Musab Marzouque the same people who cry that context matters are the same people who say Giannis is the mvp despite lebron having a better narrative... roses season was good but holy shit it was no where near lebron, that’s why Lebron spanked him as soon as the playoffs came

    • @alandowning7460
      @alandowning7460 Před 3 lety +6

      CaydeIrving03 chill bro

    • @heimtime_lifting
      @heimtime_lifting Před 3 lety +27

      CaydeIrving03 put rose on Miami and Lebron in Chicago and Rose wins in 5 no cap.

    • @nicksamp515
      @nicksamp515 Před 3 lety +22

      Again, this video isn't the same as dom2k made for the 2011 mvp argument. His points are based on ACTUAL MVP selection criteria, while jonny's vid, is focused on how the MVP each year will be IF it's based on production (stats) and impact on both ends of the floor (defensively and offensively). Lebron had better overall stats and individual impact, while rose had the 'against all odds' narrative edge plus the best team record in the NBA while being the team's best player.

  • @gremun1833
    @gremun1833 Před 3 lety +92

    love this series

  • @eddieadams9333
    @eddieadams9333 Před 3 lety +1

    Great job man, keep up the good work. Great individual content making, have not experienced this a while ago. Carry on mate🍻

  • @norriz78
    @norriz78 Před 3 lety +71

    Harden should’ve won 2019 mvp

    • @edwiener9666
      @edwiener9666 Před 3 lety +10

      Fax giannis should have just won the dpoy instead of mvp

    • @justdont4215
      @justdont4215 Před 3 lety

      You mean 2018-19 or 2019-20?

    • @pyrozendynasty7849
      @pyrozendynasty7849 Před 3 lety +1

      @@justdont4215 probably 2018-2019. Giannis deserved 2020 no doubt

    • @justdont4215
      @justdont4215 Před 3 lety +4

      @@pyrozendynasty7849 I think 2018-19 was just too close. Harden was definitely better offensively but defensively giannis was basically the best in the league and the bucks had the better record. 36 6 7 though is still hard to pass on.

    • @kakilla1000
      @kakilla1000 Před 3 lety

      4sure man!!! 17-19 was all Harden

  • @dilshanhettiarachchi5491
    @dilshanhettiarachchi5491 Před 3 lety +232

    Only disagreements would be 2017 being Harden (efficiency difference is too big for me) and 2019 being Harden as well. Though I agree with LeBron over Harden in 2018.
    Also you should use only true shooting instead of FG%. If you want to measure just shooting, then use eFG%.

    • @songaS
      @songaS Před 3 lety +33

      also he used the to's per game thing in 2017 but westbrook was a really close second place to that trailing by 0.3, and harden was 3rd seed and westbrook was 6th. not even gonna mention the playoffs

    • @thenamethename7250
      @thenamethename7250 Před 3 lety +11

      Mississipi Sherman what is westbrook supposed to do with taj gibson and alex abrines as his best teammates

    • @Invictus-Solaris
      @Invictus-Solaris Před 3 lety +4

      Dilshan Hettiarachchi I think you literally missed the introduction of his video...

    • @dilshanhettiarachchi5491
      @dilshanhettiarachchi5491 Před 3 lety

      @@Invictus-Solaris How so?

    • @Invictus-Solaris
      @Invictus-Solaris Před 3 lety +4

      Dilshan Hettiarachchi Also... Harden is overrated.

  • @mercury7886
    @mercury7886 Před 3 lety +13

    I'm glad you mentioned Anthony Davis here. His performance on the Pelicans before Rondo and Cousins goes under the radar nowadays. He had a really impressive series against the Warriors, despite the loss. In my eyes he has been a complete player for much longer than people remember. Hell, he even shared cover athlete status with Steph and Harden on 2K that year.

  • @noamcohen8189
    @noamcohen8189 Před 3 lety +1

    love those videos, do it every year🙏🏾

  • @hanninaur
    @hanninaur Před 3 lety +45

    This video proves they just got tired of giving lebron the MVP award. Dude always had 26+-8-8 50%

    • @sh1nighami
      @sh1nighami Před 3 lety +7

      and 40% 3p in 12/13

    • @letstalkbasketball727
      @letstalkbasketball727 Před 2 lety

      Nah sometimes he just didn’t deserve it

    • @the757general2
      @the757general2 Před 2 lety

      @@letstalkbasketball727 All four of LeBron's MVP he deserved and he should've won in 2011 as well

    • @letstalkbasketball727
      @letstalkbasketball727 Před 2 lety

      @@the757general2 not 2010 and arguably 2012

    • @sir.muffiniii7011
      @sir.muffiniii7011 Před 4 měsíci

      @@letstalkbasketball7272012 was one of the greatest seasons ever and those Miami 12-13 years are the second best peak ever imo

  • @thebudapestgambler8832
    @thebudapestgambler8832 Před 3 lety +69

    I would love to see one about the 80’s as well. I want to know how many mvp thropies Jordan would have 😅
    Thanks for this series! :)

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 3 lety +32

      Yep, 80s are getting one too! Thanks for supporting my channel :)

    • @blackmamba2k899
      @blackmamba2k899 Před 3 lety +12

      Jordan would not win more than 2, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Moses, Dr J

    • @Sewrays
      @Sewrays Před 3 lety

      Yes would be a good eaxample of the better player loosing to better teams

    • @robglobal1
      @robglobal1 Před 3 lety +1

      If the Bulls werent full of crack heads and actually a decent team he'd have it almost every year. Even the greats at that time admitted in Jordan's rookie season he was the best player they had ever seen and back then players didnt give props like that even if they knew the truth. They werent all as friendly as players today

    • @frankenviews4069
      @frankenviews4069 Před 3 lety +1

      My bet for the 80's decade MVP would be Bird. I know he only got 3 rings to Magic's 5, but he was always the best player on his team from 1980 onward, which was one of the top two teams for the 80's, while Magic only became the Lakers top dog midway into the decade. Jordan was the better player in the 80's but these were his losing years.

  • @Splackavellie85
    @Splackavellie85 Před 3 lety +144

    You only need to look at 2016 Steph to see why “logo” Lillard won’t ever come close to being a better shooter. Lillard is great, but that season alone solidified Steph as the greatest shooter ever.

    • @deanoss777
      @deanoss777 Před 3 lety +31

      only dumbasses think Lillard is a better shooter than Curry

    • @4kbandz567
      @4kbandz567 Před 3 lety +3

      Michael Dean i think Lillard a better player tho

    • @yellowastronaut2921
      @yellowastronaut2921 Před 3 lety +2

      @@4kbandz567 2019 WCF yes

    • @yellowastronaut2921
      @yellowastronaut2921 Před 3 lety +30

      @@4kbandz567 cant spell Logo Lillard without 4 Ls

    • @4kbandz567
      @4kbandz567 Před 3 lety +2

      Yellow atleast he not a sellout n need the best team ever to win 👍🏻

  • @QaamansLand
    @QaamansLand Před 3 lety +427

    Solid list but the 2015 choice is shocking. Instead of Davis or Curry Harden should have won. You make a very good case that Harden should possibly have 3 mvps.

    • @jackbaruffi6256
      @jackbaruffi6256 Před 3 lety +7

      no lebron should have won

    • @cade9173
      @cade9173 Před 3 lety +1

      Jacoby2k exactly

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand Před 3 lety +46

      @@jackbaruffi6256 In 2015? That was the year he regressed in the regular season for his paleo diet. LeBron beasted in the playoffs all alone but in 2015 the regular season was Harden's to lose.

    • @N-Ice_
      @N-Ice_ Před 3 lety +11

      How can you have 3 MVP's without defense? That's really stupid

    • @dumberoni1023
      @dumberoni1023 Před 3 lety +8

      Nikita Mitchenkov star player defense is so overrated, jordan, kobe, and lebron never actually guarded the other teams best player primarily since it would take away from their offensive production, thats what role players are for

  • @ohmyrufiohhh1303
    @ohmyrufiohhh1303 Před 3 lety +4

    Harden had like 10 games of 50 points or more that season including a 60 point triple double. He was the sole reason for the rockets even making the playoffs in a tough western conference.

  • @abnerutomo9806
    @abnerutomo9806 Před 3 lety +57

    Do another video for every award. DPOY, ROY, 6MOY, MIP, COTY. Will be fire 🔥

    • @faded8093
      @faded8093 Před 3 lety +6

      Coty will be boring as hell

    • @d44detzyzry6e8
      @d44detzyzry6e8 Před 3 lety

      @@faded8093 on god 😂😂😂 steve ker

    • @masterbitter7688
      @masterbitter7688 Před 3 lety +1

      rookie basketball fan here, what are those abbreviations mean?

    • @d44detzyzry6e8
      @d44detzyzry6e8 Před 3 lety

      @@masterbitter7688 bro?

    • @masterbitter7688
      @masterbitter7688 Před 3 lety

      @@d44detzyzry6e8 i know rookie of the year and defensive player of the year but what is 6MOY, MIP and COTY?

  • @jimpickens568
    @jimpickens568 Před 3 lety +30

    YO I WAS WATCHING THE 90s AND 00s THIS MORNING WONDERING WHERE THE 10s WERE THANK YOU!

  • @wadetuaupiki9651
    @wadetuaupiki9651 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow this channel is a hidden gem 💎 great vids man 👌🏽

  • @dvon1097
    @dvon1097 Před 3 lety +9

    Also you should do this for the finals MVPs because theres been several instances where a player on a losing team who was the best player

  • @yudonnom3
    @yudonnom3 Před 3 lety +6

    ive been waiting for this. excited!

  • @charlesking4843
    @charlesking4843 Před 3 lety +12

    Damn good video with solid facts to support your arguments. You and Jimmy highroller have to be the best NBA historians on CZcams. You provide consistently great content and I thank you for your efforts.

  • @joshuamoonilal4578
    @joshuamoonilal4578 Před 3 lety +6

    Lebron games in 2018...is the GREATEST player of all time. I love and respect MJ in fact I am a fan, but NO ONE will ever be greater than 2018 lebron.

    • @Don-zh2sb
      @Don-zh2sb Před 2 lety

      2018 is not even the best lebron

  • @gillpeakperformance4945

    This is an awesome series!

  • @jakemackay1747
    @jakemackay1747 Před 3 lety +3

    I’ve been waiting for this

  • @edgm.14
    @edgm.14 Před 2 lety +6

    2018 Bron still one of the craziest runs I’ve seen

    • @enigmatic.
      @enigmatic. Před 2 lety

      For real man. As some one who's from Cleveland that shit was insane to watch. He played out of his mind.

  • @QaamansLand
    @QaamansLand Před 3 lety +148

    1980's?

    • @abdullhameedalazzavi3119
      @abdullhameedalazzavi3119 Před 3 lety +6

      it's just old era that I don't thimk many would get interested watching although I would love to see this kind of a video

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 3 lety +67

      I’m working on it right now 👍 A lot of my subs are older gents. It may not get as many views in general, but I do think a lot of people would enjoy it, so I think it’s worth doing :)

    • @abdullhameedalazzavi3119
      @abdullhameedalazzavi3119 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jonnyarnett exactly. wish you luck

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand Před 3 lety +11

      @@jonnyarnett Respectfully disagree. A video featuring Magic MJ and Bird will be greatly watched. The 80's modernized BBALL as you well know. Look forward to your breakdown.

    • @calamorta
      @calamorta Před 3 lety +1

      Miss you posting videos frequently, Qaaman.

  • @cursedtk9768
    @cursedtk9768 Před 3 lety +3

    This series is legit one of the best I've ever seen

  • @cashmoneysniper4166
    @cashmoneysniper4166 Před 3 lety +3

    I adore these videos😂

  • @arounangame3820
    @arounangame3820 Před 3 lety +1

    I woke up this morning and i was waiting for this

  • @gustavsteenandersen7476
    @gustavsteenandersen7476 Před 2 lety +1

    3:33 when ur mom sees a spider and ur dad is just like ughhhh not again

  • @dulogmaz
    @dulogmaz Před 3 lety +7

    Unbiased videos like this tend to get a lot of hate comments and dislikes. You're doing good brother keep it up.

  • @tfz2101
    @tfz2101 Před 3 lety +3

    This channel deserves more subscribers

  • @cassiusfelix2805
    @cassiusfelix2805 Před 3 lety +37

    Think LeBron James should of won more MVPs throughout his career.

    • @newphonewhodis8833
      @newphonewhodis8833 Před 3 lety +1

      And 2 DPOY awards

    • @akchubeats3758
      @akchubeats3758 Před 3 lety +1

      @@newphonewhodis8833 nah 1

    • @newphonewhodis8833
      @newphonewhodis8833 Před 3 lety

      @@akchubeats3758 at least. I'm pretty sure he finished 2nd to centers at least 2 times

    • @logoat12
      @logoat12 Před 3 lety

      Same with Jordan

    • @connorsmith6517
      @connorsmith6517 Před 3 lety +3

      I wish the media wouldn’t of cheated him out of 1-2 MVPs. He deserves to have 5-6 MVPs on his resume, part of me thinks they didn’t want him in the same category of MJ, KAJ and Bill

  • @ArcLove
    @ArcLove Před 3 lety +1

    Hi 👋🏾 great job, I believe you were truly impartial on your list good Job!

  • @keyanasadi9588
    @keyanasadi9588 Před 3 lety +2

    Please do the 60s 70s and 80s, love this series keep up the amazing work

  • @MJIZZEL
    @MJIZZEL Před 3 lety +4

    Sooo...so far LeBron 6 mvps in this format and Jordan only 5....so far! Still got the 80's to do. Can't wait!

  • @NickPR87
    @NickPR87 Před 3 lety +3

    Giannis does so many things on both ends of the floor and makes them look effortless and unselfish. He really does play like a Superstar role player if you can call him that. I've never once watched him play and perceived him as trying to put up huge numbers, he just does based on energy, length, awareness and hustle.

  • @logandukes5984
    @logandukes5984 Před 3 lety +1

    im a new sub this is good stuff I really enjoy the way you talk

  • @spidercal9812
    @spidercal9812 Před 3 lety +3

    Drose KEEPS that MVP. Led his team which was plagued with injuries to the best record in a league full of big 3s and superstar duos. And he was 3-0 or like 4-0 against the big 3 heat in the regular season. Even Lebron said Drose was the MVP that year.

    • @RumbleXBL
      @RumbleXBL Před rokem

      Yes mvp but not the best player ….

    • @AVB15
      @AVB15 Před rokem

      @@RumbleXBL he wasn’t even a top 3 player that year

    • @RumbleXBL
      @RumbleXBL Před rokem

      @@AVB15 my point lol mvp but not best player or one of the best lol

  • @alikay9721
    @alikay9721 Před 3 lety +32

    You can literally make the reverse argument for the mpg. Harden had to play more minutes, so he could help his team win(which they needed because a few key players on their roster were injured for a big part of the season), ergo he is more valuable than giannis in that perspective, plus imagine playing every single game accumulating those amounts of fatigue and still averaging an otherworldly 36 ppg. For me it isn't a questing Harden deserved the mvp that year

    • @adamvesper9106
      @adamvesper9106 Před 3 lety +9

      this man hated on harden the whole video. he just dismissed everything harden did and just acted like he was playing like an average player. but when lebron came into the conversation every time he was drooling and couldn’t get up off his knees. i hate the disrespect sm

    • @skynyrdjesus
      @skynyrdjesus Před 2 lety +2

      The amount of durability and stamina it requires to play that many minutes consistently doesn't show up in the box score, so it's easy for a lot of people to underrate. It's the same way people like to criticize Wilt for "needing" 48 minutes a game to average 50 points at 130 possession average. You show me another player in history you could maintain that pace and those minutes for an entire season, in chuck taylors, then we can talk about how easy it is to put up those numbers

    • @justincieminski2010
      @justincieminski2010 Před 2 lety

      Again your just going off of his offensive stats when overall Giannis was just as efficient on less minutes and a much better defender?

    • @foxtun6746
      @foxtun6746 Před 2 lety +1

      @@justincieminski2010 first of all harden averaged more steals and was still a solid defender. There is no way you think defense is more valuable than offense in the regular season.

    • @justincieminski2010
      @justincieminski2010 Před 2 lety

      @@foxtun6746 I’m not saying defense was more valuable but you can’t ignore that he averaged way more rebounds with almost the same amount of assists and he was a much more efficient scorer and defender than harden

  • @LifeWith_Chloe
    @LifeWith_Chloe Před 2 lety

    You are so Underrated Your vids are the Best

  • @CapitalP177
    @CapitalP177 Před 3 lety

    Great series

  • @northernlight1000
    @northernlight1000 Před 3 lety +25

    Harden could of won 2015 MVP as well

  • @Life_Basketball
    @Life_Basketball Před 3 lety +66

    I 100% believe that KD was the best player in 2014 and 2019

    • @kawhileonardsburner6792
      @kawhileonardsburner6792 Před 3 lety +19

      KD definitely deserved mvp in 2014 but not in 2019 Giannis led his team to the best record in the nba and had better numbers

    • @Life_Basketball
      @Life_Basketball Před 3 lety +5

      @@kawhileonardsburner6792 Yeah, KD had 26, 6 and 6 while Giannis had 27 12 and 6. Similar scoring numbers and Giannis had defense over KD as well as rebounding, KD simply did more things better. KD averaged those numbers with 2 other all stars that season ( Giannis had 1 all star

    • @_1luljayyy
      @_1luljayyy Před 3 lety +5

      KD should’ve won in 2012 as well

    • @Life_Basketball
      @Life_Basketball Před 3 lety +5

      @@_1luljayyy that's fax, LeBron didn't have a better season than KD in 2012

    • @deionwhite8430
      @deionwhite8430 Před 3 lety +2

      @@_1luljayyy no he shouldn't have

  • @nathancheng3710
    @nathancheng3710 Před 3 lety +41

    Why doesn’t Jonny talk about Harden’s true shooting percentage?

    • @gkop9574
      @gkop9574 Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you

    • @byoung520
      @byoung520 Před 3 lety +13

      He don’t like harden

    • @edwinchen647
      @edwinchen647 Před 3 lety +4

      @@byoung520 He clearly hates Harden. The 17-18 mvp race shouldn't even be close.

    • @Dragorach
      @Dragorach Před 2 lety +1

      Cuz it's insanely bloated from his free throws taken average being so high.

    • @DiscGolfLeagueMVP
      @DiscGolfLeagueMVP Před 2 lety

      @@Dragorach You clearly understand the purpose of true shooting then!

  • @apapadopulos9868
    @apapadopulos9868 Před 3 lety

    What i love this is that he doesn’t mind that the same guy wins a lot. People loose their capability to be amazed by some players. People get bored of the same team or player keep winning even if they deserve it. Good job.

  • @brandon46brandon
    @brandon46brandon Před 3 lety +4

    You should do this with defensive player of the year, rookie of the year etc... like so he can see!

  • @izet5413
    @izet5413 Před 3 lety +70

    Your logo is horrendous, otherwise good videos.

  • @clanwaddell5628
    @clanwaddell5628 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Heatles LeBron was amazing. I'm a Heat fan so maybe I am biased. But for all the hate he got for the cramps and Ray Allen "saving his career" with the shot in game 6, man was a force of nature. Playing with a good team let him dominate on defense. You need good teammates to win, which this team had. And his shooting stroke was the best of his career. He got older and wiser, but this was the most explosive and dynamic he ever was, with solid footwork and a solid three point shot

  • @Noah-fi9js
    @Noah-fi9js Před 3 lety +1

    You should do the 80s,70s and 60s then after your done that finish off the series by comparing how many MVPS players would have in this new format and who would have the most,etc.

  • @d.eric_29
    @d.eric_29 Před 3 lety +10

    D Rose the best ❤️ 🌹

  • @mrstoryteller11
    @mrstoryteller11 Před 3 lety +41

    Imagine the scenes if flight reacts to this

  • @mandumetheking
    @mandumetheking Před 3 lety +3

    So in my calculations, if the MVPs were given to the Best Player from the '80s to the 2010s', according to Jonny, MJ would have 8 MVPs and Bron would have 6 MVPs. The GOATs. Without a doubt.

    • @etiennebouyoux3577
      @etiennebouyoux3577 Před rokem

      We need more fans like you, who accept that they are both great.

  • @joshuachang5210
    @joshuachang5210 Před 3 lety +3

    In 2018 I think Harden keeps the award is also a solid choice considering the fact that LeBron is having arguably his worst defensive season of his career

  • @gray_gogy
    @gray_gogy Před 3 lety +5

    Your intro is probably my favorite intro from all basketball channels.

  • @markhinde710
    @markhinde710 Před 3 lety +4

    You need to do this for the 2019-2020 season for all awards after they finally name MVP. You should also do this for Finals MVPs, ASG MVPs, DPOY, ROY, MIP, etc.

  • @hasang3
    @hasang3 Před 3 lety +2

    That 2018 LeBron season was so underrated because Cavs was only 4th place in ECF but that run in playoffs was legendary.

    • @johngriller4997
      @johngriller4997 Před rokem

      It wasn’t underrated when everyone still over-glorifies it all the time. Yes, individually for LBJ it was very impressive but when considering he went against a bunch of developing kids on weak teams att with virtually 0 AllStars (Bos ECF, the only Superstar in Kyrie injured ffs), Notorious DeplayoffChoker (2nd round), and a bunch of nobodies with one mid caliber AS in Oladipo. Plus adding to that meh run he got swept again in the Finals after only one great individual performance. When you add all of that then the totality of the run isn’t that impressive. I’d take any of Hakeem’s playoffs runs when he was a massive underdog and you know, actually won a championship against way tougher comp all around. Or Kawhi’s actually Legendary 2019 performance against actual comp and superstars and actually winning the title. I’m not expecting LeBron to win against the Warriors that year but at least close one damn game bruh.

  • @nitro4472
    @nitro4472 Před 3 lety +2

    If it was given to the best player, it would be you Jonny. U Da Real MVP.

  • @Robinhudloom
    @Robinhudloom Před 3 lety +5

    This channel is underrated, should have atleast 1M subs

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks Robin, that means a lot :)

    • @kingdinodragonite3470
      @kingdinodragonite3470 Před 3 lety +2

      @Allen Iverson nah bro. Wilt is playing 48 minutes. That's like 1.5× more than Giannis. Giannis 2020: 30ppg 13reb 5ast on 61.3%TS and DPOY in 30 minutes per game. Wilt's Career: 30.1ppg 22reb 4ast on 54%TS (most rebounds are statpadding) in 45 minutes a game.

  • @henderdonjosh4
    @henderdonjosh4 Před 3 lety +32

    Forgot about westbrooks shooting percentage 42 for a superstar is just awful

    • @mark4mused489
      @mark4mused489 Před 3 lety +10

      42 percent isnt awful...its just shooting 50% is really good.....plus people trick the system by scoring close to the basket....lbj

    • @henderdonjosh4
      @henderdonjosh4 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mark4mused489 true but look at his shooting numbers lol they're trqsh

    • @kingdinodragonite3470
      @kingdinodragonite3470 Před 3 lety +13

      @@henderdonjosh4 Westbrook actually has a higher TS% than league average in 2017. It's just this year, Westbrook shot okay from 3 on a lot of attempts. He tried to do the same in 2020 but he's bricking again.

    • @RyuuseiBlizzard
      @RyuuseiBlizzard Před 3 lety +14

      @@henderdonjosh4 he actually shot 34.5% on like 7 or 8 threes a game in his mvp year, with most of the shots being off the dribble. Thats actually pretty decent. Plus he was playing with offensive bums who killed his spacing.

    • @brotherdcp-t710w4
      @brotherdcp-t710w4 Před 3 lety +1

      @@RyuuseiBlizzard lol spacing. He made sabonis 3pt catch and shoot player to have him his space for iso plays. When he goes to indiana and given a chance his gameplay is very different and he is an inside scorer. Lol who killed who. If he did not get traded for pg can he become an all star up to this point.

  • @MsTruebi
    @MsTruebi Před 3 lety

    Excellet series! Suggestion for next series: If Finals MVPs Were Given to the BEST player of the series, not necessarily from the winning team ...

  • @jaykaynum5569
    @jaykaynum5569 Před rokem

    AD!?😂. Great video 💯

  • @jalenbrunsonfan
    @jalenbrunsonfan Před 3 lety +4

    This channel deserves a whole lot more subs

  • @RJB-V
    @RJB-V Před 3 lety +3

    goddammit, now i have to wait 10 years for the 2020s video.

  • @botaco
    @botaco Před 3 lety +1

    In 1972 the Celtics had the 4th best record and the MVP was David Cowens while the Lakers had the best record in NBA history, but Wilt Chamberlain was 4th among MVP candidates.

  • @ChefDeeRock
    @ChefDeeRock Před 3 lety

    MVP is so narrative driven . There should be two upmost prestigious awards . “ Best Player Award” and “Most Valuable ” and also given a definition which the current MVP AWARD does not have .

  • @Top-Kek
    @Top-Kek Před 3 lety +5

    Kevin Durant was the best basketball player in the world in 2014 & after he swept Lebron in 2018 until his achilles tear

    • @monke2457
      @monke2457 Před 3 lety

      Lebron was basically the only player on his team in 2018

    • @z0tl410
      @z0tl410 Před 3 lety

      Ofc the 2018 cavs was ass and golden state was still the best team in the nba🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @robglobal1
      @robglobal1 Před 3 lety

      @@monke2457 didnt that team have Korver, Love, Smith, Thompson, Clarkson and Sexton? Sexton may have been the year after but still pretty sure the rest were on that 2018 squad

    • @dmg3736
      @dmg3736 Před 3 lety

      Gmoneyinc sorry let me just see if korver love Thompson and clarkson beat curry klaus and draymond. Oh wait they don’t

    • @mrmacross
      @mrmacross Před 3 lety

      @@robglobal1 The 2018 non-LeBron Cavs was a decent roster, but every GM would've taken the non-KD 2018 Warriors roster over Cleveland's.

  • @MaleviahBurned
    @MaleviahBurned Před 3 lety +3

    17, 18, 19 all belong to westbrook

  • @ebronjamesandreiv4472
    @ebronjamesandreiv4472 Před 2 lety +2

    bro fr the 2018 lebron was a different breed man

  • @theonlyoskar6219
    @theonlyoskar6219 Před 2 lety +1

    Not giving 2019 one to Harden is absolute bullshit. Only cause he dropped 50 and 48 against your Lakers in his two games against them that year.

  • @jzltrz97
    @jzltrz97 Před 3 lety +10

    Dude harden 2018 2019 use the true shooting percentage pls besides u be acting like harden have bad defense🤦‍♂️

  • @adanbravo4722
    @adanbravo4722 Před 3 lety +10

    2014-15 shouldve been Harden. He led an injury filled Houston to 56 wins, and he dominated the stat sheet as well

  • @startedfromscratch1529
    @startedfromscratch1529 Před rokem +1

    Joker somewhere in Serbia like hold my beer 😆

  • @jurisdumagan4138
    @jurisdumagan4138 Před 3 lety

    Cant believe you have to wait a whole decade to continue this series

  • @lucalebrun5589
    @lucalebrun5589 Před 3 lety +5

    Harden 2015 2017 2018 2019 mvp should all go to him and you know it like harden was the best player for all those year and harden hateds you know I am right you just dont want to say it

  • @ashmaterial
    @ashmaterial Před 3 lety +4

    DO DPOY from 1st season of NBA. I want to know Wilt stats in defence and how good he was

    • @kingdeedee
      @kingdeedee Před 3 lety +1

      Extremely difficult. Blocks and steals weren't recorded back then let alone all the other advanced defensive stats. On top of that, footage is so limited so you can't really watch many clips to analyze his defense and on top of that, rules were so different that it's tough to compare his defensive impact to players of the modern era. We pretty much just have old people telling us that he was an elite defender and we have no choice but to believe it

  • @lukamitreski4349
    @lukamitreski4349 Před 3 lety

    You speaking facts my man you got everything right

  • @davidanyasike2821
    @davidanyasike2821 Před 3 lety

    You are the true mvp jonny