The Truth About LOST - Part 1 of 2

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
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    WATCH PART 2 HERE: • The Truth About LOST -...
    Were the LOST writers making up the show as they went along? This two-part video essay delves into answering that very question as thoroughly and even-handedly as possible. Part One explores the first half of the series and how Seasons 1-3 were put together, and what exactly was going on behind the scenes. The video specifically interrogates statements made by the showrunners and measures their comments against what the series actually gave us.
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    LINKS TO VIDEOS MENTIONED:
    1. The Origins of The Island
    • LOST Explained - The T...
    2. The Ancient Past
    • LOST Explained - The T...
    3. The Game between Jacob and MiB
    • LOST Explained - The ...
    4. Science and Time Travel
    • LOST Explained - The T...
    5. Faith and the Supernatural
    • LOST Explained - The T...
    6. Opening The Magic Box
    • LOST Explained - The T...
    00:00 Were the LOST writers making it up?
    4:00 What have the showrunners said?
    7:27 How was LOST created and developed?
    13:40 Was the show supposed to be grounded in real science?
    21:31 What did the writers know from the start?
    32:05 Is there early proof in the show of a plan?
    41:43 How did securing an end date for the series help?
    50:06 Teasing Part Two
    Further Reading:
    The LOST Will and Testament of Javier Grillo-Marxuach:
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    The LOSTpedia Interview with David Fury:
    lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/The...
    The Making Of LOST: An Oral History Of The Pilot Episode:
    www.empireonline.com/movies/f...
    LOST: An Oral History of the Daring, Divisive 'The End':
    www.vulture.com/article/lost-...
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  • @pieroog
    @pieroog Před 3 měsíci +117

    20 years have passed and I still have goosebumps when Locke's smiling at the rain...

    • @thedudeabides3138
      @thedudeabides3138 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Terry O’ Qiuinn and Michael Emerson were the capstones of this series for me.

    • @guyledouche7939
      @guyledouche7939 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Damn I feel old...

  • @GetYourPull18
    @GetYourPull18 Před 3 měsíci +65

    There has not been another show that created the same feeling of awe and amazement as Lost did. My favourite show of all time.

  • @harrisonmckenzie4905
    @harrisonmckenzie4905 Před 3 měsíci +95

    Im currently watching the whole series again for the 6th time, "you're timing is impeccable John" as Ben Linus said.

    • @ppsayl1235
      @ppsayl1235 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Same here. Uncanny.

    • @wompastompa3692
      @wompastompa3692 Před 3 měsíci +7

      *your

    • @harrisonmckenzie4905
      @harrisonmckenzie4905 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@wompastompa3692 it's a minor grammar mistake, I'll leave it like that just to annoy you.

    • @wompastompa3692
      @wompastompa3692 Před 3 měsíci

      @@harrisonmckenzie4905
      >doubling down on IESLB
      Done.

    • @mddi1420
      @mddi1420 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Ben : « How did you know when to be here »
      Flocke : « The island told me »
      Follow the leader , beechcraft seen

  • @UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ
    @UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ Před 3 měsíci +49

    I truly 10000% believe that the world needed this channel

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +15

      I hope the world finds me. That would certainly help boost my subs count! 😂

    • @UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ
      @UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ Před 3 měsíci

      @@LOSTEXPLAINED108 The funny thing is your catalog might reach the whole series in length by the time people find you.

    • @Choekaas
      @Choekaas Před 3 měsíci

      @@LOSTEXPLAINED108 If it makes you feel better. We both started producing Lost videos at the same time, and you've got 20,000 more than me 😢

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 Před 4 dny

      Honestly, what they needed was the showrunners to pay as much attention to details and story as this guy. Because he has done a better job of trying to make sense it as well they did. I know he's an advocate for the show and defending its production and writing, but I honestly think what he has largely succeeded in doing is creating a mythology that makes sense for the most part to fill the gaps that the original showrunners missed.

  • @PeterBoggs
    @PeterBoggs Před 3 měsíci +44

    Half the characters in breaking bad were originally going to die in season 1, and plans changed CONSTANTLY, but no one accuses the show of "making it up as it went along".

    • @josephbrown9685
      @josephbrown9685 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I think what a lot of people don’t realize about producing tv shows is that sometimes things don’t pan out the way they think and realizations are discovered along the way about what works and what doesn’t. Why kill off a character that turns out better than initially expected just because that was the original idea? There are opportunities to make adjustments that won’t destroy the overall narrative. If I recall correctly, Walking Dead also did this with Carol.

    • @TrentGgrims
      @TrentGgrims Před 3 měsíci +3

      The scene where we see the machine gun in Walts trunk, the writers had no idea yet what they were going to do with that

  • @lleldridge1
    @lleldridge1 Před 3 měsíci +38

    Every bit of your content is meticulously planned, researched, scripted, recorded, edited, etc... and I appreciate all of the hard work very much. Thank you!

  • @christianthorpe935
    @christianthorpe935 Před 3 měsíci +24

    It's a thing of beauty, folks! As always.

  • @rastaman5354
    @rastaman5354 Před 3 měsíci +9

    I’ve started to rewatch lost.. even tho I’m still lost watching it I have to give them credit.. it’s brilliantly written and stands on its own league

  • @wheels899
    @wheels899 Před 3 měsíci +17

    this channel has the best, most thorough understanding of LOST of any other channel or forum anywhere else on the internet. thank you for making these videos!!!

  • @richardvlogsdisney
    @richardvlogsdisney Před 3 měsíci +7

    This video deserves so many more views. Should be essential viewing for every lost fan and critic.

  • @Nerazzurra85
    @Nerazzurra85 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The island isn't done with us, and your channel is the proof!!! Thank you 🙏🏼
    If after 20 years from the first episode thousands of people are still here to talk about the show, the stories, mysteries and more is because Lost in more than a tv series!!!

  • @pedroribeiro7984
    @pedroribeiro7984 Před 2 měsíci +2

    There will never be a series like Lost...no words to describe the absolute incomparable genius of the creators...

  • @evenglare
    @evenglare Před 3 měsíci +10

    This is very eye opening. Thanks ! Gives me some ammunition whenever I come across the people who completely bash it saying they didnt know anything. I've always thought, no one ever has a whole story written up in their mind. And even if they do its subject to change. Ask literally any novelist that has ever existed since the beginning of time. Not knowing where you are going is not an inherently bad thing. Of course just like them, any writer knows what big ideas they want to hit on, clearly its the same here.

  • @Echohoody
    @Echohoody Před 2 měsíci +3

    Kudos to you doing Lost content in 2024. I was so entrenched in the Lost mythos back in the day and those reality games they did really worked well in bringing me extra intrigue. Thanks for doing this.

  • @FloridaMark1611
    @FloridaMark1611 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I have no problem with the ending. I loved the show and am on my 7th watch.

  • @cirjaonisim1113
    @cirjaonisim1113 Před 3 měsíci +3

    41:15 If you look closely you could see the smoke monster in Locke's eye ball reflections. And that was as early as episode 4 season 1.

  • @raeliho
    @raeliho Před 3 měsíci +5

    Hi! I just got caught up on the videos I missed. I got chills watching all of them. And I'm really sad that The Theory of Everything is over. WOW. No words to describe how much I enjoy your content. I think YOU should be the one to write a sequel/requel/prequel. I would definitely watch it❤

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Thank you 🙏 While The Theory of Everything has ended, the LOST Episode Guide is about to begin. One door closes and another opens. Stay tuned!

  • @molecola5793
    @molecola5793 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thank you for your commitment into making this video. Lost is truly one of the few tv shows that i would rewatch for the third time.

  • @radagast7200
    @radagast7200 Před 3 měsíci +16

    First... to get lost. Also, I was rewatching Angel and Sawyer is in the first episode. It was pretty weird to see Vamp Sawyer.
    Also, the Proto-Dharma idea named Medusa reinforces my idea that greek mythology played a huge role in the story. And that the island is Calypso's Ogygia.

    • @Jefersoul
      @Jefersoul Před 3 měsíci

      Your channel is awesome!

  • @chiri-theoden4264
    @chiri-theoden4264 Před 3 měsíci +13

    The haters work hard, but LOST Explained works harder! What a great idea for a 2-parter. Really loving this so far!

  • @knightridernz72
    @knightridernz72 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I love Lost and this is the BEST CZcams channel on the series. I loved the first season and it's my favourite season. I love how they opened the second season with Desmond being inside the hatch. Totally unexpected but brilliant.

  • @Blindseeker82033
    @Blindseeker82033 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Excellent argument. So glad the channel's still cookin. Makes me wanna watch again every time.

  • @Gullo_mengozzi
    @Gullo_mengozzi Před 3 měsíci +1

    The details in these videos are insanely accurate, great work! Thank you, as always, for putting in the effort, really appreciated

  • @meglosthecaramacking
    @meglosthecaramacking Před 3 měsíci +1

    This has been your best video so far. I’m always glad to learn new information about the creative process behind Lost, so this was invaluable. I’m really looking forward to part 2.

  • @illuvattar
    @illuvattar Před 3 měsíci +3

    Awesome and very thoroughly and clear breakdown! I always chuckle if I read 'they were making it up as they went along'. Lemme tell you a secret. That is how TV is made, especially at that time. It's how creation goes, things are discovered and expanded upon or reduced. Recently it's changed a little because of the reduced nr of episodes, making it possible to write a whole season before the first episode airs. It's still being made up as it went along, just before it's aired. It's also not always great, cause it often feels like a stretched out movie where you don't have random amazing character episodes like the dharma-van episode of Lost. It doesn't enable you to bond with characters, and it's why older shows with like 70+ episodes are way more popular on streaming. And I think that's where they're slowly moving towards again. Why invest $200M into 6-8 episodes when you can make like 16-18 for less that enables people to become more engrossed and put in more time watching your content.
    Looking forward to the next part, since the second half isn't covered as much as the inception and the first half! As well as you're episode by episode guide!

  • @adonwolfe
    @adonwolfe Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great deep dive about the Behind the scene stuff of the show that I didn't know about. Glad this channel exists for one of my favorite shows. Keep up the good work. And stay Lost.

  • @FelloniusWizard
    @FelloniusWizard Před 3 měsíci +2

    I'm caught between selling my DVD:s or just keeping them for the future. After seeing this video, a third option was revealed; Maybe watch them again? Very good video!!

  • @benmascioli1133
    @benmascioli1133 Před 3 měsíci

    Fantastic as always. Can't wait for Part 2!!

  • @chrisfraser5088
    @chrisfraser5088 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Such a great video! Keep up the good work! Love your videos! Lost needs to stay alive. No other show like it.

  • @outofmind9222
    @outofmind9222 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I just finished this series for the 5th or so watch, and decided it’s my all time favorite series. Then I discovered this channel, and you’ve done an EXCELLENT job with your videos. Watching this almost makes me want to start it over again! 😂

  • @Jh9801
    @Jh9801 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This was brilliantly well done, thank you so much for spending so much time researching this put this together. I've always been to die hard fan of the show, but I knew almost none of this.
    I miss the fun i had when watching along back in the day, scouring lostpedia to learn as much as i could. I was doing an internship I hated during s6, but I kept myself sane sending back and fourth thousand word long essays to a close friend, with Visio block flow diagrams trying to explain the timeline. Such great memories.
    Please keep up this channel, it brings me so much joy.
    I went to Hawaii with my wife and in-laws last year and under the guise of tourism sneak took them to as many filming locations as I could. It was surreal going for Chinese food next to the place they shot Ekos Africa scenes, then driving a few minutes to go sit on the survivor beach the rest of the day.

  • @SupaJ777
    @SupaJ777 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Been waiting!

  • @buttsauce514
    @buttsauce514 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Cannot wait to watch this one! Love all your content as always man! Namaste

  • @SameBasicRiff
    @SameBasicRiff Před 3 měsíci +2

    Such great and amazing context. Just want to thank you again and say you are - so - awesome - !

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt Před 15 dny

    Patiently awaiting your new videos ❤❤

  • @matwilliams8012
    @matwilliams8012 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It’s ironic but I honestly think season 4 is one of the tightest seasons of all time. It pays off the ending of 3 (we have to go back), it has an overarching mystery though the whole piece (the oceanic 6) which are revealed through the whole season, some interesting new characters who are pivotal to the lore and an ever growing sense of dread about what happened to the people who didn’t get off the island - are they alive, are they dead, are they still there? It’s beautifully handled and perfectly put together.

  • @benmascioli1133
    @benmascioli1133 Před 3 měsíci +1

    AHHHHH new Lost Explained dropped!!

  • @sandythompson3525
    @sandythompson3525 Před 3 měsíci +2

    As ever, thank you for the awesome content!!!

  • @paolaferrari66
    @paolaferrari66 Před 3 měsíci

    Stavo aspettando questo 😅 e ...grazie,... come sempre, sembra 😊ieri. Ogni volta.❤ Grazie.

  • @marinabassi3767
    @marinabassi3767 Před 3 měsíci +2

    When I saw you had created a new video I just knew my Sunday was going to be good a one. I started to watch Lost for the 21th ? 22nd? 25th? time last week. Can't actually remember how many times, but it definitely won't be the last, and your work plays a big part in it. I'll never thank you enough... And can't help thinking that a drop of the Source helped create this masterpiece and inspired (or not, but still..) all the humans it touched. (OMG, I sound like Locke in the first seasons 😄, but you know what I mean...)

  • @juanthompson7395
    @juanthompson7395 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you and a lot of things said kept it so great for me as well! A tv show like that with so much ambitions should've been loved and respected but I never took it for granted because Lost is always gonna be up there as the best TV show

  • @lordspuddington3012
    @lordspuddington3012 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Here we go!

  • @nacierkan
    @nacierkan Před 3 měsíci +3

    Thank YOU for this video.

  • @dont_follow5777
    @dont_follow5777 Před 3 měsíci

    So glad I'm finally watching this one.

  • @marcelnavarrobaguena
    @marcelnavarrobaguena Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you for this video!! 🎉

  • @nickgoodlock263
    @nickgoodlock263 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I love lost and couldn't give a fck if nobody else on earth likes it. I definitely don't care if it was planned or they were winging it. Most people you hear talk about it didn't even understand the ending anyway 🤷‍♂️

    • @josephbrown9685
      @josephbrown9685 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Well said. Gotta love it when people who didn’t even watch the whole show and clearly don’t understand it like to make proclamations about its quality based on what they heard somewhere online being espoused by fellow ignorant commentators.

  • @Ryusevi
    @Ryusevi Před 3 měsíci

    Great video and your whole channel is great. As someone who spent countless hours on lostpedia back in like 2009/2010 and doesnt have the patience to put all this together i salute you.
    I love this show so much and despite not really needing explanations it‘s almost like a rewatch of a different kind to experience the show in this manner

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +1

      That’s music to my ears! 🙏

    • @sparkycjs
      @sparkycjs Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hey! I was on the lostpedia forum back in the day too. Spent ages there discussing theories with people. Fun times!

    • @Ryusevi
      @Ryusevi Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@sparkycjs Yeah i loved the theories and reading all the whisper transcripts etc.

    • @sparkycjs
      @sparkycjs Před 3 měsíci

      @@Ryusevi I remember when they were theorising a map with the stations etc too.

  • @chrislawson1988
    @chrislawson1988 Před 3 měsíci

    OMG! THIS IS SO FASCINATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @sergiysergiy
    @sergiysergiy Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great video, thanks!

  • @donm5354
    @donm5354 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Fascinating insight into the story of how LOST came to be the way it came to be and the games showrunners/writers had to play with clueless network executives interfering with the creative process. As with any serialized series-LOST was a work in progres. Looking forward to your coverage of Seasons 4-6. ............... Initially I drifted away early in Season 1 then stumbled onto the episode where the HATCH was discovered and after they blasted it open, I had to find out what happened next and was hooked.
    Every series of the nature (like Battlestar Galactica that ran concurrently) has seemingly pointless episodes that did not seem to move the story forward-had bits that made sense later on.
    When viewed as a whole, upon rewatching a few times, it was amazing how sell the pieces came together by the series finale - which many drew the false conclusion "They Were Dead The Whole Time".
    I was really hoping the 12-minute epilog shown only during the AFTER SHOW and as a special edition DVD, that eventually a sequel series would happen with Hugo, Ben and Walt running the Island. Where they would create their own Dharma Initiative, recruiting scientists and archaeologists to unlock the islands known (and yet to be discovered). With appearance by some of those who left aboard Flight 316. Along with children of the Losties.

  • @nimayahya5243
    @nimayahya5243 Před 2 měsíci

    its 2025 and im still keep watching Lost over and over again! cant stop it! Best show ever

  • @Tystalls04
    @Tystalls04 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I can literally count on you to post something and it makes me go back and rewatch LOST lol I don’t know who to blame at this point

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +2

      I take full responsibility 😂

    • @Tystalls04
      @Tystalls04 Před 3 měsíci

      @@LOSTEXPLAINED108 could be worse addictions I guess😂

  • @thesuh4537
    @thesuh4537 Před 2 měsíci

    You are the GOAT. Thank you for your content!

  • @ryanking32
    @ryanking32 Před 3 měsíci

    What a great video. Subscribed!

  • @Bobody770
    @Bobody770 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Nice work. I thought I was a lost fan, but most of these quotes I’ve never seen before. Especially from the writers that are not Lindelof and Cuse

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +2

      I provide some links in the further reading section to some of the sources I used. Javier’s essay - The LOST Will and Testament - is particularly illuminating about those first two seasons. Worth a read on its own!

  • @mudokonnn
    @mudokonnn Před měsícem

    Great documantary! Thanks a lot!

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před měsícem

      Thank you 🙏 Don't forget to check out Part 2 here: czcams.com/video/GI2kCWoXKnk/video.html

  • @therelics7415
    @therelics7415 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video. Even as a huge lost fan I actually never knew all of this about how the writers had to trick the network about being self-contained. Your point about people being overly nostalgic about season 1 is really good. Even though I love season 1, I agree that it is was less good than the other 5 seasons because it had less purpose. It also makes so much more sense now why the pacing of the last 3 seasons was so much better now.

  • @Jefersoul
    @Jefersoul Před 3 měsíci

    Amazing video! You're awesome!

  • @GenshinIntervention
    @GenshinIntervention Před 3 měsíci

    We back boy! 🎉

  • @danvocals123
    @danvocals123 Před měsícem

    This is such a good video

  • @nickbrown1663
    @nickbrown1663 Před 3 měsíci +4

    "Oh they were dead all along"

  • @notoriousbmc1
    @notoriousbmc1 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Maybe it has changed over the years, but pretty much every show was made up as they went.
    Breaking Bad is continually near the top of "best show ever" lists, with nobody ever questioning how they went about writing it.
    Vincent Gilligan said on a few occasions, at the start of a season, they'd shoot some seemingly unconnected shot (teddy's eyeball in the pool) with no idea where they were going with it. They had Walts' arc of breaking bad somewhat planned out, but not much else.
    Literally what is the point of a writers room if it's already written?
    I think this makes it more impressive, that these people can end up with great shows like Lost or BB.

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +4

      I know exactly what you mean here and I agree with the notion that every story is "made up". Of course, no story arrives fully formed, no matter what medium you are working in as a writer. But that's not really what I think people mean when they ask if LOST was made up as it went along. They are asking if the writers knew where the story was going. Did their story follow the pathway of an actual plan or did they make it up without any real planning at all? And if there was no real plan throughout then was the show a bit of a con on audiences? This is what is at the heart of the debate surrounding LOST and why I felt it necessary to make a video breaking down the various evidence inside and outside of the show. For a long time, it's been a very binary argument between fans and detractors of the series and I wanted to make it clear in video-form how exactly the show came together.

    • @notoriousbmc1
      @notoriousbmc1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@LOSTEXPLAINED108 great video...as usual

    • @BigDome1
      @BigDome1 Před měsícem

      The random cold opens, like the teddy bear and the machine gun, contributed to some of the worst moments in Breaking Bad. The plane crash was total nonsense and didn't serve the series in any way. The machine gun ending was utterly terrible.
      Moreover, whilst the Breaking Bad writers didn't know exactly how it would end, they knew what the POINT of the show was. It was a suspenseful crime thriller, there was no "answer" we were waiting for. It's a narrative that we're happy to see play out. But with LOST, they created a sense of mystery and of questions that needed answering, and many of us feel they just randomly threw together a bunch of crap.

  • @WitchChangkyun
    @WitchChangkyun Před 3 měsíci +1

    Babe, wake up, new video from Lost Explained dropped

  • @Brellowcrop
    @Brellowcrop Před 3 měsíci

    You've done a fantastic job exploring and deepening the mythology of Lost. A show which I loved. Yet, they clearly had a rough road plan, but no real plan. You've also got to remember how many episodes a season there was back then. It sounds like it was absolute chaos behind the scenes. I, personally enjoyed the time travel parts back in the Darma initiative. That shit was kewl

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Yes, during Season One I think it was chaos behind the scenes. But they found their equilibrium by Season Two and I think they had more than a rough road plan by that point. They had the backstory of The Island and the major mythological milestones of where they wanted to take the overall story (which I shall get into in more depth in Part Two). The problem was the treading water between the milestones, which for a long time was a result of the network's paternalism over not ending the show nor revealing the answers behind mysteries. However, I would agree that producing 22-episode seasons was a big part of why the show ended up being so uneven generally speaking. Had they been making 10-episode seasons from the start, it would have been a tighter narrative, but we would have lost all that time with the characters, building those emotional connections. I also love the time travel stuff! Wouldn't lose that for anything.

  • @RegalHankHill
    @RegalHankHill Před 3 měsíci

    LOVE the content and absolutely BRILLIANT, we;; thought out and perfectly time documentary on the story shaping of the best series ever! you're work is well appreciated and ty!!(id love to hear your take on Game of Thrones if u ever get a second channel!)

  • @poupidoupidou8548
    @poupidoupidou8548 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Didn't have time to deeply check your channel, but I will!
    Was the showrunners making it up? I don't care, the result is great and Lost will always be my favorite TV show, not objectively the best, let's be honest, but my favorite, a marker of my life.

  • @JennaRuland
    @JennaRuland Před 3 měsíci

    God, I needed this today.

  • @FringeMusic107
    @FringeMusic107 Před 3 měsíci

    Really great work! I already look forward to bringing this to the attention of anyone who complains about the showrunners "making it up as they went along". Especially the breakdown of all of the mythology already set up in season 2 is very helpful and informative. I don't fully agree that the people that prefer season 1 over the others do so simply because everything was still a 'mystery'. I think the show was simply better written. In fact, I would argue that the mysteries raised and answered in the last three seasons are less consistent and satisfying than the ones from seasons 1 - 3. Give me a Danielle Rousseau, Nigerian Beechcraft, cable in the sand or doomsday button over Jacob, The Tempest, Team Ilana, Charles Widmore etc. any day of the week! But you are right that the people that claim that the show 'lost its way' during later seasons are pretty much factually wrong, at least when it comes to that aspect of it. Looking forward to part 2!

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thank you 🙏 Please feel free to share whenever encountering that kind of response. I get comments under videos often making that same claim and after a while you get tired of having to repeat the same arguments/information. That's ultimately why I made the video lol. Although I've got to say, those comments are usually in the minority.
      As for the people preferring Season One part of the video, I was only referring to a specific type of viewer/commenter. The type who claims Season One was the best season but then goes onto complain about how the rest of the show sucked because they didn't have a plan and made it all up. That, to me, is an inconsistent position. Season One is the only season where they were legitimately making it up as they went along with very little overall control of the narrative and its direction; the brakes were on the storytelling possibilities. So, I just wanted to point out the slight hypocrisy of those who make that criticism about the show yet celebrate S1 as the gold standard and why I think that is actually a double standard. I have no issue with people who simply prefer Season One overall! To each their own.
      I am the type of LOST viewer who much prefers where the show went to where it started out. For me, Season One lacks a strong narrative drive and has whole episodes that I consider pure filler with lots of playing for time, more so than anything that came later IMO. I think it has some great episodes and we get to spend quality time with our Losties, but I always want to power through it all so I can get to the Exodus finale (where LOST really becomes LOST imo). I know that might be considered a hot take lol. This is why I want to do the episode guide because I have lots of thoughts about the show and what works versus what doesn't. I can finally unleash the critiques!
      I take your point about preferring the Season One mystery/reveals to what came later -- they are cleaner -- but I would add that for every cool hatch/doomsday button or cable on the beach we got a Claire-has-amnesia plotline or Charlie having sketchy dreams that make him steal babies episode, and for every Outrigger or Team Ilana narrative dead end of the latter seasons, we got Desmond finding his constant or a Richard Alpert origin story, etc. The tide ebbs and flows there.

  • @DonPiwana
    @DonPiwana Před 3 měsíci +1

    You are the best!

  • @xbrain_burstx1829
    @xbrain_burstx1829 Před 3 měsíci

    I need part 2!

  • @generalytsubs9759
    @generalytsubs9759 Před 3 měsíci +10

    I'm the 3rd one here, 9 minutes after upload,
    I remember saying months ago I'd be here for your next video,and at a convenient time, when I have nothing else to watch

  • @CAROLGAMERLIFE
    @CAROLGAMERLIFE Před 2 měsíci

    In my opinion this series is simply genius. I love it ❤

  • @dottnick
    @dottnick Před 3 měsíci

    22:09 loving this video so far 100%

  • @springNoNWo
    @springNoNWo Před 2 měsíci

    My favourite TV series ever, Season 2 & 5 were my favs but overall just a masterpiece

  • @Seomus
    @Seomus Před 3 měsíci +3

    I write long epic fantasy books and I rarely have more than the current book plotted. Then I build on things. I plant seeds and grow them over books. I have the advantage of writing words. I don't have to worry about the actor playing my character quitting or dying or budgets considerations or time constraints. I don't have set hours of programming that i have to fill. Each season of the show feels outline, espeically the last three stories. I can say, I know that sometimes your plans seem good, but don't work when you go to implement them and force you course correct. Sometimes, inspiration hits you deep into a series that can take you in an unplanned direction. Creating longform fiction is a messy process for a novelist working alone. And if you don't realize that, ask yourslef why GRR Martin hasn't released the next SOIAF novel in 13 years.

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Great comment! And totally agreed. I'll be touching upon this a little bit in the next part -- the difference of being a sole author with full creative control over a novel versus running a TV show that employs roughly 500 people and not having full control over every aspect of that production as a result. There's a lot of nuance to what happened behind the scenes of this show.

  • @ThousanWhite
    @ThousanWhite Před 3 měsíci +1

    31:53 You nailed it. It's all based on a personal bias/belief system that has to utilize a contradictory logical fallacy to be true. Having a "lack of plan" is a relatively nascent/bandwagon-jumping complaint permeated in internet culture imo.
    It's exactly how people seem to hate the recent Star Wars movies because they "didn't have a plan" but in reality, when George Lucas made "A New Hope" he has mentioned MANY times in public that he didn't have Empire or Return of the Jedi mapped out either and yet the criticisms for those OT films are completely absent.

  • @ThoseBackPages
    @ThoseBackPages Před 3 měsíci +2

    has it really been 20 years? wow.

    • @josephbrown9685
      @josephbrown9685 Před 3 měsíci

      September 22 this year is the pilot episode anniversary!

  • @TJMalana
    @TJMalana Před 3 měsíci +1

    ABSOLUTELY LOVE how many times you shouted out "Desperate Housewives" in your video. "Desperate Housewives" and "Lost" were and STILL ARE my two favorite TV shows from NETWORK TV. Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, and Lost all became iconic and instant hit show all at the same time in the same year. Desperate Housewives went through a similar conundrum of trying to end their series they way Marc wanted to end it. These networks are so greedy that they were willing to let hit TV shows go on and on and on till it faded away from existence but when the ratings kept going down ABC finally caved and let Marc Cherry end his serial Comedy/Drama series the way he wanted. This is me just theorizing at this point. Since Grey's Anatomy is going on to 20th season it seems to be the ONLY show that is still bringing high ratings to the network ABC is currently doing to them what they TRIED to do with "Desperate Housewives" and "Lost" and milking for everything they got. We're seeing in REAL time the consequences of a show like "Grey's Anatomy" overstaying their welcome. Ending Desperate Housewives and Lost was right decision to make.
    PS: The Creator of Lost and Desperate Housewives did an interview together regarding 2008 writers strike if you want to see it and use as a resource for Part 2 of your vid.

    • @TJMalana
      @TJMalana Před 3 měsíci

      @@SirReptitiousOh yeah Grey’s Anatomy is going last I checked. I don’t think they made it all up. I had to do Wordpress article for school about my favorite TV shows and I referenced Desperate Housewives and Lost because it was the TV shows I grew up watching and seeing how both shows evolved. The first three seasons of Lost were slow because I’d all the expeditions but the last three seasons really showed clear purpose and direction and a lot of the story arch’s circled back around to the beginning. In my opinion no TV show has ever come close to the phenomenal that Lost was. I’m sorry you feel like the entire show was made up.

    • @TJMalana
      @TJMalana Před 3 měsíci

      @@SirReptitiousI be curious to know what about Lost you thought was made up. Any examples you can provide?

  • @pattycookie2011
    @pattycookie2011 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I love your videos!!!!!!

  • @trentodahare2469
    @trentodahare2469 Před 3 měsíci +1

    u should make a video on how season 4 was supposed to be since it was ment to be longer. love the show. re watching rn for the 4th time. showing it to my girl. were almost thru season 5!

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I will discuss the impact that the writers strike had on Season Four in Part Two.

  • @agitatedzone
    @agitatedzone Před 3 měsíci

    LOST was one of a kind

  • @otohora6537
    @otohora6537 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lost is the greatest show ever written!

  • @WaldoWantToKillZOMBS
    @WaldoWantToKillZOMBS Před 3 měsíci

    Best channel

  • @guyledouche7939
    @guyledouche7939 Před 3 měsíci

    1:48 Don't remind me of this episode. I remember being fully invested in the show, to the point where I was skipping my night class in college just so I wouldn't miss the first 10 minutes of the show. Waiting a week between each episode was torture for me, and when Locke found his father and blew up the submarine, it was the only thing I could think about all week. Then, they took a break from that massive cliff hanger to give us an episode that had 0 bearing on the plot. The only thing that actually happened of consequence was Charlie confessing to Sun that he attacked her, and it was never brought up again. Everytime I rewatch the series I skip this episode. The memory of it infuriates me.

  • @mddi1420
    @mddi1420 Před 3 měsíci

    I hope you gonna get reached out by upcoming lost documentary producers.
    Faces of 2020s fandom need to be heard and you are one the main face

  • @williamarbuckle3342
    @williamarbuckle3342 Před 3 měsíci

    I remember Damon saying in a podcast that the idea for "the incident" (first mentioned in s2) was always that the characters were going to go back in time and end up causing it

  • @Retardelito
    @Retardelito Před 3 měsíci

    Dude!! What a wicked channel!! So many things I didn’t quite get, links I would have never gotten around to understanding if I’d watched the whole thing another 5 times. Brilliant work. I’m 41, didn’t think anyone younger than me had ever given the show a try, wicked to hear the show is still alive in some ways ✌️❤️

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you 🙏 I am very pleased to report that the LOST fandom is alive and well. And thanks to the show rotating on streamers like Hulu and Netflix and Amazon, new audiences are frequently rediscovering it.

  • @generalytsubs9759
    @generalytsubs9759 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Just finished it, so when is the next upload, part 2?

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Won’t be too long of a wait. I’m just completing the final edit of it now. It will be released to Patreon first then it will go live on CZcams a couple of weeks after that. Should be some time in March 🙏

    • @generalytsubs9759
      @generalytsubs9759 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Okay, thanks, I'll be here waiting.

  • @TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond
    @TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond Před měsícem

    Wait... people don't like the episode where they fix the Dharma bus? I love that episode! Honestly one thing i wish Lost did more was give them vehicles. The boat was cool. Maybe a new raft which is only designed to take them around the outside of the island would have been cool. Instead of an escape, it's for exploration. If the island is this huge, a few expeditions a season which lead to smaller mysteries which can get solved along the way might have helped keep it interesting. Doesn't even always have to be Dharma or egyptian stuff. Just finding evidence of other people having been stranded there. Like mini-detective stories. Could even change up the format of the flashbacks a bit, focusing on these survivors from long ago. Giving the cast a break.

  • @MassEffect1988
    @MassEffect1988 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I still think they knew the beginning and the end but didn't know the route in between 👍🤔 they didn't know how they'd get from A to B, but they knew what A and B were as plot points...

  • @buddystewart2020
    @buddystewart2020 Před 3 měsíci

    I've seen comments here and there about IF they knew from the beginning what the show would be or IF they were making it up as they went along. I never really had a dog in that fight. I just knew I liked what I saw. Even the so called 'filler' episodes were ok to me. Even the dreaded tattoo episode didn't bother me as much as it seems to have bothered others. Or the Nikki and Paulo stuff. Thanks for another great video.

  • @felipealejandro225
    @felipealejandro225 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hey! Im kind of new to the channel, I really like your content and I got a question that dont know if you talked about this topic in other video, but on the episode ""Stranger in a strange land"" Jack wakes up inside a bear cage while some people surrounds the cage. Among those people were Cindy and the kids of the Tail section. Who are the rest of the people though, and what they were doing there? Or whats the purpose of the scene for the storyline of the series?

    • @CalvinCrack
      @CalvinCrack Před 3 měsíci +3

      I think they’re temple others? And/or Cindy might have spent some time in room 23. It’s plausible that although Cindy wasn’t on the initial lists of “good people” for the others to take, Goodwin could have made a case for her which led to her later abduction. It also cannot be completely ruled out that Cindy was a mainland other returning home, although this theory raises too many questions about if the others had an awareness that 815 was due for the island (or if Jacob put her on this path although she’s not a confirmed candidate afaik). While this theory is probably not true, Lostipedia makes some good arguments in favor of this, like: Cindy agreeing that Nathan wasn’t on the plane despite “having a good memory of passengers”; furthermore not recognizing Jin, Sawyer or Michael later when they found them on the beach. Also IMO the smoothness with which she disappears later seems easier to achieve if one snuck off as opposed to kidnapped at close range in broad daylight.

  • @chrislawson1988
    @chrislawson1988 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I liked season one but love most of others cause the wierdness and island mysteries was in foreground more mythology loved it wanted more of it Moe weirdness the better wilder the better loved the season two finale loved Desmond omg and the hatch loved time travel others was so intriguing anything with the island was intriguing lol and epic

  • @dottnick
    @dottnick Před 3 měsíci

    0:31 I'm excited to watch this video. I don't believe they were making it up. I'm a lost fanatic. At least 8-9 full watch throughs and watched many episodes on repeat waiting for the next back during its episode by episode release… beginning almost 20 years ago.

  • @serf6355
    @serf6355 Před měsícem

    Some aspects were no doubt deliberate, including the often repeated one eye symbology shown throughout the show.
    That always tells me that there’s a mysterious agenda we likely wont uncover..

  • @Itryo
    @Itryo Před 3 měsíci +1

    I thought that your last video was perhaps the last one. SO happy to be wrong!

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +1

      After this two-parter is done, I'll be launching an episode guide to go through the show episode-by-episode. So, still lots more to come on this channel!

    • @Itryo
      @Itryo Před 3 měsíci

      @@LOSTEXPLAINED108 😍 gold mate, thank you so much 🙏

  • @wdgangster
    @wdgangster Před 3 měsíci

    I'm a little late, but FELLOW LOSTIES LET'S GOOOOO

  • @bigbigfizzi
    @bigbigfizzi Před 3 měsíci +2

    This show was enthrolling. I really loved it, until midway thru season 4. Not a hater by any means and am a big big fan of this show and thanks to you i have understood a lot of things that were just left unanswered. So, thank you for your efforts. I do really wish that this show was able to go on for a few more seasons to truly flesh out the important parts that were... LOST by finishing way to early. Maybe if they omitted all the Kate and Sun episodes, they wcould have fitted everything into 6 seasns.... Maybe??? (Not saying that Kate was a bore or that Sun was uninteresting... hmmmm...) Cheers.

    • @OceanSoul1969
      @OceanSoul1969 Před 3 měsíci

      I loved season 4 but seasons 5 and 6 were definitely the weakest for me. When they tried to craft in the mythology and time travel it just didn’t do it for me. Especially the whole remembering your life so you can move on.

  • @llokuta
    @llokuta Před 3 měsíci

    I will say this about the Dharma van: It did become relevant when the people who stayed behind at the beach used it to run over the "Others" when they tried to surprise attack them.
    The second I saw that scene I remember saying to myself "See, everything they introduce DOES come around full circle"..........

  • @JHallenbeck
    @JHallenbeck Před 3 měsíci

    I'm so glad to see someone making a balanced analysis about how this show came together. I'm already juiced for Part 2!!
    p.s. Are you going to get into the whole AAA situation?

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yes, rest assured I shall talk about the Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje drama in more depth in Part 2.

    • @TJMalana
      @TJMalana Před 3 měsíci

      I swear I saw an interview with the show runners where that actor was suppose take on the brunt of what Desmond's entire story arch later became. It was so fascinating to watch. A prime example of some of the things that transpired offscreen that forced the writers to adjust fire and shift things around. I think it really worked out for the best because not only did it solidify Desmond as a main chess player in the over story arch but it also opened the door to giving my favorite character Charlie a real redemption/heroic storyline as well.

    • @LOSTEXPLAINED108
      @LOSTEXPLAINED108  Před 3 měsíci

      Yes, that was the Mr. Eko situation, in which the actor wanted off the show and different parts of his planned arc went over to Desmond and Ben. I'm actually exploring that in Part 2.