Is Rickson Gracie Still the Greatest Jiu-Jitsu Practitioner of All Time? - Kama Vlog
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Hope she’s as hot as I am!
@@KamaJiuJitsu touché
Paulo Filho loves him, too. www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/amp/UnderGround/Paulo-Filho-comment-on-Rickson:1357595
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When i trained with Cesar Gracie, I asked him who was the best in the family. Without a moment's hesitation, he said, "Rickson."
I remember training with Cesar at Rickson’s place when Cesar was a brown belt. Nice guy.
Great conversation, Thanks for letting us in!
Love your videos man! I appreciete all your knowledge of the Gracie lineage.
Is there any actual EVIDENCE that Rickson is so good, other than all the mythologizing and marketing around him? Rickson is basically a corporate brand at this point. They even put his name in the Kama JJ logo. That makes sense from a business perspective, I understand you have to make your money somehow. But if you look at his actual competitive BJJ record, in his entire career he defeated a grand total of five people.
Compare that to Gordon Ryan, who in a 48 hour period this September beat almost twice as many elite competitors as Rickson did in his entire life. For some reason, Rickson spent all his prime years turning down fights for various reasons. It seems like Rickson´s main goal was to preserve his mystique, rather than test himself against the best competition he could find. That is the polar opposite of what Ryan has done, or Keenan or anyone else who have always been willing to fight anyone they could to prove their BJJ.
Why did Rickson refuse to fight Sakuraba? It seems like the reality is that Rickson knew if he fought and lost, the Gracie family would lose the last bit of their aura of invincibility, dealing a huge blow to the power of their brand. From a corporate perspective, no doubt he made the right move. But from the perspective of a true warrior, a true competitor, Rickson did the opposite of what one should do: always look to test yourself against the best competition you can find. Countless competitors have done that, from Ryan to Keenan to Roger to Buchecha to Marcelo etc. No doubt Rickson is a great man and a great martial artist. But in terms of the real level of his jiu jitsu, we will never know how it compares to top competitors, because he spent his entire career avoiding any fight that would actually test it.
Evan Cary , Rickson just lost his son, Rockson at the same time he was supposed to fight Sakuraba. It wasn’t the right time for a fight but to tend to his family during that time.
www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/amp/UnderGround/Paulo-Filho-comment-on-Rickson:1357595
@@KamaJiuJitsu You prove my point. When asked for evidence, all you can give me is a video of someone talking. Not Rickson actually competing against anyone, just someone running their mouth.
Is that what your martial art is based on? People talking? People used to talk a lot before the first UFC. There were thousands of traditional martial artists who claimed to be able to maniuplate qi, to do secret death touches, so powerful that no one could even survive a fight with them. But then the Gracies came along, and they were so confident in their skils, they decided to answer the question in a way no one could deny. All those traditional ´masters´ got taken down and choked out, and that is the reason BJJ has spread the way it has. Because people respected real results, not just fairy tales.
It was the Gracies themselves who offered the famous challenge: if you think you can beat us, come and prove it in front of the world. And in the end, so ironically, it was Sakuraba offering that challenge to Rickson, a challenge he turned down.
If Rickson chose not to compete for personal reasons, I can certainly respect that. Competition is not an obligation. If your heart isn´t really into it, it´s probably better not to step in the ring. But what I can´t respect is Rickson making the choice not to compete, and then spending decades claiming that he is superior to those who did compete, who did test themselves. Everyone from Gordon Ryan to Marcelo Garcia, to other Gracies like Roger, who did step into the ring and accept the results win or those. They did so much more than talking.
At the end of the day, that is what martial arts are based on: real results. Fighting the best competition available. Testing yourself, win or lose. You can´t deny that for whatever reason, Rickson chose not to do that. And because he made that choice, he has absolutely no right to arrogantly pose the way he does, looking down on people who have a hundred times the record he does. I don´t care how many great rolls he has had behind closed doors, going out and doing what Gordon Ryan or Marcelo did in ADCC is an accomplishment in a different universe. Saying that he would beat Fedor in MMA, or dominate the ADCC doesn´t make him a champion, it just puts him in the same silly league as the Steven Segals or Frank Duxes of the world. Coming from the family he does, Rickson should show proper respect to men who take on the burden of true competition. Even Helio called him out on his imaginary record!
So if Rickson isn´t about to sign up for any jiu jitsu tournaments, he should take the other honorable option still available to him: keep teaching his classes, but when it comes to talking about who would win a real fight, respectfully shut his mouth.
Uh... it’s not a video of anyone talking.
Face it, nothing will convince you otherwise.
Sad thing is, you’ve NEVER trained with the Grand Master himself so you’ll 1) never know you’re FOS, 2) never know what true greatness in the art is.
That’s ok. I still like you.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Why should I be convinced by someone talking (you in this case), as opposed to actual results from legit competition? When you award belts to your students, do you award them based on what the students claim they can do, or do you actually test them on the mat? If the latter, then why shouldn´t Rickson be held to the same standard as your own students?
As a fellow Black Belt along side Prof. Young and as a guy who has taken many classes and privates with Rickson, I get frustrated with videos like this one. There is no possible way to tell. It's only theory and imagination. It's an "unknowable" fact.
Rickson is one out of 8 billion percent unique. But best ever? or never be matched is not able to be known.
There are so many parameters or qualifications that need to be stipulated to judge such a question. Pound for pound?, Open weight class?, time limit? which rule set?
I have rolled and trained with many greats. Rickson is still MY number 1. There is only 1 rickson and not 1 person has fully duplicated his knowledge or skill.
Regardless, love the videos Ryan
Kama Jiu Jits is an excellent school amd we do our best.
You are right. Other than a few guys in the 80s, Rickson never actually fought the top JJ guys of his era, let alone the best ones of this era. You could easily name 100 JJ fighters who have fought more top competition than Rickson ever did. Rickson is like a religion. It´s all faith, all myth, no evidence.
@@mofoshrimp I definitely would NOT call Rickson a myth. I have rolled with him many times and he is SO DAMN GOOD. I have seen him destroy MANY MANY black belts. And some of the best black belts who have ever trained have said they were tapped.
@@jacktaufer6461 I have no doubts Rickson was/is amazing, but I was always perplexed why he had such a tough time in that 80s match with Rigan Machado. Machado is great, but his ability was never revered nearly as much as Rickson's. I guess Machado's individual self was just a good match up for Rickson.
@@ctsd623 What a great match though right!?!?! Its my understanding was that at that time Rigan was also considered one of the best as well. I think it was kind of let's settle this kind of matches. I have never spoken to Rickson about it. Rickson has always been special. It's my understanding that he really started to developed and change his application of jiu jitsu when he completely separated from the Gracie Academy. He changed the basic techniques after noticing there are vulnerabilities in the traditional application. He tightened them up and changed how he addresses them. Also he had to deal with wrestlers. D1 and Olympic athletes.
He also trained so much gi and just as much no gi. He has a brilliant perspective on the entire art. He is very realistic as well.
@@jacktaufer6461 Indeed! here's an interview where Rigan talks about the setting in detail: czcams.com/video/F0OyCiosVHg/video.html
I’m training at Gracie University in Torrance now!
Still the Mecca of Jiu-Jitsu
Great video ! Thank you 🙏
If your so loyal and faithful to his techniques..how will it ever evolve especially as you said there are better existing techniques ?
But surely, technique improves with the more time you put in it. So kron 10 years ago would also be a different person to the kron now. I attended a seminar with him not too long ago and he told us that he came to a point where Rickson had nothing left to teach him so he had to create new defences to combat more modern techniques. Rickson also admits that Kron managed to tap him when he was put in kron's guillotine, so I think it might be surprising to see exactly what happens with kron in the near future.
I believe that how did you find out that kron Tapoed rickson ?
Ricks should’ve pushed the knee down and did the half back flap and then climb out of it
@@rollsgracie3604 Rickson himself said so in Joe Rogan's podcast.
@@rollsgracie3604 yea because rickson forgot how to escape exactly what happened
From a self defense stand point, maybe. From a sport jiu Jitsu stand point. No
g.o.a.t... greatest of all time... is a silly title that is impossible for anybody to be assigned.
g.o.A.t... greatest of A time... this is a more interesting discussion when framed in the context of a specific sport in a specific era.
Rule sets, technique mastery, athleticism, physical size, injuries, environment/surroundings, competitors, etc... all of these have an impact on who is more or less likely to win. Rickson is absolutely one of the greats. Easy to argue the greatest of his time. Easy to still argue he is one of the greatest jiu jitsu practitioners out there today and obviously is in rarified air with regard to his mastery of technique.
I assume that by calling him the greatest of all time you are saying that Rickson would beat anyone not just the majority of the time, but that he would rarely lose to anyone. In his time this was obviously true. He was a natural athlete, and I agree that he could have competed in almost any sport at a professional level.
However, he competed in an era when jiu-jitsu, lute livre, and CACC wrestling were revolutionizing the world’s understanding of combat. He had a technical edge on almost everyone, and when combined with his athleticism he was nearly unstoppable. But it seems a bit of blind faith to say that Rickson would still destroy the athletes of today in grappling or mma competitions. The level of athlete today is literally decades more refined than the competitors of Rickson’s time. There is significantly less disparity in grappling knowledge and technique mastery of the top athletes and competitors.
Before for I watch imma say he gonna say yes for sure
@Kama Jiu-Jitsu What do you think about Rickson's son? He competes in MMA. Have you trained with him or watched his matches? If so, what do think of his style and how does is compare to his fathers? Would love a video on this topic, thanks!
When great wrestlers, great BJJ guys tell stories about how good Rickson is then it should be enough for anyone.
Rickson is the greatest because of his technique and his conditioning and his heart ..... and his ability to recognize and counter everything as it was happening in real time .
I can't remember the name of a certain Gracie who kept dodging Sakuraba...What was his name again?
Roger always fought against the best jiu jitsu black belts in big competition
But they both rely too much on their body type rather than pure technique, positioning and leverage
World Champion blackbelts said they got smashed by Rickson.
@@alexneville8168 I will reopen this discussion, I'm not doubting rickson whopping world champion black belts, I believe U...
@@alexneville8168 Roger used and abused world champion black belts like they were shit...
@@alexneville8168 Roger is also on that level, I think the only ones that can shed light on this is renzo, I know they don't like to open up on Roger vs rickson however they should in a respectful way
You don't teach that toughness. You either have it or You Don't ! Rickson Gracie Rules. Dave n Professor Young Rules.
I've fought for the UFC 17X and have trained at many Jiu-Jitsu gym's and got the chance to train with rickson twice and I agree he is the best of all time.
Late reply but can you elaborate? Why is rickson the goat?
@@antondelacruz9362 are you asking me?
@@senditffh7919 yessir. Like, did he do somethin really different from other bjj guys?
@@antondelacruz9362 yes his weight distribution is like no other and I've rolled with several world champions and there is no comparison. Just ask Andre galvao who is considered the current best sports Jiu-Jitsu player out there. Rickson put his hands behind his back from side control and I had a fight coming up and I did everything I could and couldn't move. My dream is to get a private from him.
He just simplifies everything and Henry akins is a black belt under him that is also amazing instructor.
Rickson is absolutely the greatest!
I think Fabricio Werdum gets overlooked when the GOAT topic comes up in BJJ. He has submission wins over Fedor, Cain Velasquez, Overeem & Big Nog in MMA. He's also a gi & ADCC World Champ.
Solid point. I wanted to see the combat bjj match between Werdum and Ryan.
perhaps, but he still hasn't fought Gordon Ryan.
Yes, I'd love to see it!!! Gordon hasn't made his jiu-jitsu work with someone like Fedor throwing bombs at him on top yet. 😁😂🤣
Or... Hendo and Ryan. Watch out for the power right!
Is true that rickson was Also a judo black belt and a luta livre champion? And that he mixed the two Styles in his jiu jitsu?
They Started Training ( Playing ) as soon as they could walk... IMAGINE !!!!!
Great interview! I've been a martial artist all my life (started as a very young kid and now I'm 61) but never trained in Jiu-Jitsu. Having said that, I've noticed over the years that my ground game is embarrassingly non-existent and have been wondering about the possibility of starting Jiu-Jitsu at my age. I workout daily and I am very fit and strong, however, I have to be realistic. Would this be a sensible step or would I just be a sad old guy getting beaten up every day by 8 year old girls? ;) That said, knowledge is knowledge and if I could survive the beatings it might be worth it.
You should try it.
Find a school with some other older guys. I am a little younger than you, but have been training for pretty many years. I do BJJ for fun only and enjoy rolling slow and emphasizing technique. Just pick who you roll with and know your limitations.
@SilentDiablo Many thanks :)
@@dicaeopolis8522 Many thanks :)
Is Bruce Lee still the biggest martial arts icon of all time?
Of course he is! Rickson is the best.
1st like 1st view 1st comment saludos and for the record rickson still wrecks on everyone
I agree with you but is there any video of rickson beating rolls or did anyone else say they seen it?
I’ve seen two when Rickson was YOUNG. he looked like he weighed no more than 140-150lbs. No “end” of match for either. Very short clips.
Listen to Joe rogans podcast with rickson
Master Rickson Gracie is a Very Smart Man.. Most Brazilians of his Generation Living in the USA Do not speak English as well as he does ... Another Level.... I speak to a lot of Black Belts In Brasil & They A L L say the same thing... Hes in another Level.... OsssSSSsss !
I walked into a Gracie Barra yesterday for a class and they told me to wear their GB gi instead of my Atami white gi even though I was just visiting, I’m not sure if I should be offended or I should simply respect their gi etiquette?
Their school, their policy. To be offended is a choice.
@@KamaJiuJitsu yeah that was my thought also, I am choosing to enter their school so I should accept their way but I don't think I will join as I prefer schools that are more self defence focused and not sport focused.
Their school, their policy.
Your hard-earned money, your prerogative to choose where to spend it.
@@KamaJiuJitsu nice another thought I´ve had recently.
I was a striker before jiujitsu and after 5 years of jiujitsu coming from Hapkido, muay thai, kyokushin karate, and wrestling I saw fellow jiujitsu students START their martial arts journey in jiujitsu and become consumed by the notion that jiujitsu is the ultimate way to fight BUT this was in a sports focused jiujitsu school where competition is the focus even though I started jiujitsu just to add grappling to my combat arsenal I feel these students will have a false sense of security THINKING they are capable of defending themselves with no additional striking experience and understanding that fighting is dirty and there are no rules.
which is what GM Reylson Gracie said when he penned his controversial (but largely true) note on FB. czcams.com/video/_amKaBHBoSc/video.html
however Roger did it too, rickson had some trouble with zula before he choked him out way later in thee fight and Roger is a little smaller then zula...
Yes
Im sure its not an easy thing to do, but would it be possible to get GM Rickson for an interview. I feel like a good percentage of these videos we are talking about him. It would be nice to hear what he has to say
I’ll try.
Marshal Faulk had a fever, a fever to score that touchdown.
Great anology between Micheal Jordan and Rickson. Love these videos!🥴🙏🏼
Do you guys know the difference between a religion and a cult?
No, tell us.
Agreed. He is the best in Jiu-Jitsu.
Thats your opinión. .... 💯
Steve Forbes cool name
It’s because he owns Forbes Magazine.
Opinion on sub only Jiu Jitsu? Danaher Death Squad?
Yonkers Jiu Jitsu USADA
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Rickson was great in his time and he"s a great teacher. But we are in a different era now mma and bjj. If you are talking about the best you have to mention marcelo garcia, he"s the best no gi grappler of all time. His record speaks for it self and its legit.
www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/amp/UnderGround/Paulo-Filho-comment-on-Rickson:1357595
This is what competition teaches you. How not to quit. If there's an advantage to sport jiu jitsu, that's it.
Nah, none of those guys were better then Jordan. There's jordan, and everyone else. There's rickson, and everyone else.
*Rickson*
If I wanted to win one game, Bird. For a season, Jordan. For a career, the Big O.
@@kennethcurtis1856 I'm still gone take Jordan for that 1 game, but bird might be my number 2. People forget how great he was.
With multiple teams, LeBron
Wilt the Stilt played a big part of his career in weaker teams but he’s the most dominant individual player.
Ali was the best man to put in gloves. Rickson was the best man to put in a Gi.
I believe it’s impossible to keep a title like that doesn’t matter who you are. Look at the Olympics. The highest level of competition. There is always a new record being broken. It could take years but eventually someone breaks it. Everyone gets old. Everything is always evolving. The evolution of ground game is unmeasurable. It would be really hard for him to survive elite modern high level athletes and the new techniques. Great analogy in the video.
Anyone can disagree but that’s my opinion.
Love this guy's sports analogies! He even mentioned the Marshall Faulk flu game. He should have talked about Michael Jordan's "flu" game. Was it the flu? Did someone from the Utah Jazz send him bad pizza? Or did he stay up all night drinking and gambling? Who knows and who cares! Because when it was time to play, MJ was MJ. Series was tied 2-2. Game 5 was in Utah, so the Bulls had to win or face elimination. Utah had won 23 straight at home. But Superman could barely walk. He didn't even come out for the shootaround before the game, he ws sick! As the game got going, MJ was profusely sweating and constantly had his hands on his hips. Utah took advantage and stormed out to a 16 point lead early. MJ was sick, but he was still MJ and he started to catch fire in the 2nd quarter. He had 17 points in that 2nd quarter and pulled the Bulls to within 4 at the half. In Chicago, the air is thick and humid. But there in Utah, the air is very thin and dry and it showed. Bulls looked tired in the 3rd quarter and were sucking air. It's an eerie feeling when you can't catch your breath. And it's scary, especially when you're running constantly, up and down the court. MJ only had 2 points in the 3rd, so the Bulls really needed him to have a miraculous 4th quarter. Utah was up 86-85, with 25 seconds to go and MJ hits a 3 to put the Bulls up for good. Bulls end up winning 90-88 to go up 3 games to 2 and would win game 6 in Chicago to become World Champs again! His final stats read: 38pts, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals and a blocked shot. After the game, MJ couldn't stand up and was so weak, he couldn't even drink water. He refused IV fluids, because he was terrified of needles...lol. So the trainers just kept forcing him to try and drink water and Gatorade and finally, after almost an hour, he was able to stand up. I believe the Rickson-Jordan analogy is a good one, except the 1,000x thing. NOBODY, in ANY sport, is 1,000x to their sport, what MJ was to hoops. Period!
Wilt Chamberlain and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar scored more points than Jordan did. At least as I recall it, Wealth scored more points per game than Jordan did wow Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, if I’m not mistaken, is the all-time most prolific score in NBA. Also, Bill Russell won more championship rings than Jordan did.
To BJJ? Yes. But if prime Rickson fought prime top MMA fighters today, even under Vale Tudo rules, it would be a different story. Perhaps if he cross trained in striking but from what I remember, Rickson said in the past all he needs is Jiu Jitsu.
Rickson has some decent stand up striking skills, but he uses them to setup his JJ. In sport JJ you only see a % of JJ, there is striking in JJ.
Two fights I always wanted to see; Rickson vs Marco Ruas and Rickson vs Sakuraba.
We all wanted to see saku. Ruas... Maybe.
Kama Jiu-Jitsu Sak being so unorthodoxed and unpredictable would’ve given Rickson hell. Plus Rickson was already in his 40’s when the fight was gonna be made while Sak was still in his prime.
The G.O.A.T.
What makes a martial artist great is their knowledge. Helio was in his what, 80's when he got his last rank? That's not because he could still get in the octagon. He would die!! It's because he had forgotten more about jiu jitsu than most will ever know.
Helio had the red belt since the 1960s when he was only about 50.
Is Rickson that great? Heres the long answer.. YES
True Rickson is GJJ like my teacher professor Pedro says
Nice
Darth Vader would Choke Rickson out so no not the greatest....... But on a serious note at the time he competed in Jiu Jitsu he was the best. He has the second biggest impact for jiu jitsu. And that’s only because Royce was the one to fight in UFC 1&2 which put it on the map in the US. But to say that he’s the greatest fighter ever you can’t. I’m only a blue belt in Jiu Jitsu but I’ve boxed since I was a kid and managing distance is huge in boxing you just aren’t familiar with the art enough to see what’s going on. If Tyson put two fingers on his jaw night night. Goes to the ground Obviously a different story. He never fought in the UFC so he never had the cream of the crop for mma. In my opinion Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is to young to say he’s the greatest ever. One of the biggest impacts yes a true great yes but the greatest overall fighter ever no.
But he's ONE OF THE greatest.
I’m skeptical that there could never be another Rickson. If we look at any sport we see records broken as time goes on. Humans evolve and so does jiu jitsu. Even Rickson says his jiu jitsu is always changing. There’s always the potential for another Jordan, another Einstein. I appreciate your loyalty and devotion to the Grandmaster.
Another Einstein? Doubtful. But I do see your point?
Why do we listen to the “classical” music composed by just 5 composers?
Is there “another Jordan?” Maybe Jordan was the 2nd (but weaker) coming of Bill Russell, who won 11 rings in his 13 years playing?
There are many Jiu-jitsu masters, but only one is still sought out for his knowledge by other masters into his old age.
Just one.
Kama Jiu-Jitsu you’ve got a great point there. I really enjoy your perspective and thoughtfulness. 👊🏻 Ryan
but I think rickson definitely have trouble with Roger who is way way more technical then zula in jiu jitsu
Rugged Dre Louris I spoke with Royce Gracie at one of his Michigan schools a few weeks ago and per Royce, Rickson’s Jiujitsu is beyond everyone else’s, because “He knows how to use his body weight better than anyone. He’s very difficult to even move if he doesn’t want to be moved.”
Now that’s directly from Royce, stating that Rickson is still the best out of all of them.
@@mjolnir9855 a brother would say that, I think Roger would give him trouble...
@@mjolnir9855 zula was a match for rickson even though rickson choked him out in thee end, even if Roger would loss to rickson rickson would struggle to win
@@mjolnir9855 I don't care how great u are, inactivity and the level of competition is important to think about...
@@mjolnir9855 Sports of jutsu is harder now then it was 30 to 40 years ago because there are more people doing it...
A bullshit question requires a bullshit answer ... Would it satisfy anyone to see Rickson beat up ? No!!! Just accept as we all do that Rickson is the Greatest of all time
There was no excuses Roger fought them
Has the interviewers voice broken yet. Millennials !!!!!!
Rickson and Rolls peeps!!!!!!! No one will ever be as great as those two!!!!!
But you can’t test Rickson vs Gorden Ryan
Old Man Strength Rickson would probably get injured. Old men don’t heal like young men do
No, but the Achievement of Rickson above Gordon Ryan in MMA for sure.
Should've mentioned the Jordan 'Flu Game'.
Rickson Gracies is the best in the world 🌎 until the end of his life
We have to remember that the Gracie's family was the founders of the UFC and Mr big Gracie's was the author of the family.this man was so great
It would prob take Kron having a son. Prolly something to a grandpa/grandson relationship. Maybe? Lol
How df u dont know who marshal faulk
OSS👊❤️
To answer your question, yes Rickson is still great. When you dedicate your whole life to something your gonna be great at it. Is he the greatest of all time? Probably not but we will never know. Was he the best fighter the Gracie family produced? Maybe, but again hard to say. Did he fight the best fighters of his era, No. did he win multiple world open weight championships? No. Did he take every challenge that came? No.
Rickson is great, no doubt about it but impossible to say he is the GOAT as many comments suggest.
There will always be an argument as to who is the GOAT but I feel most would say Roger Gracie, because his record speaks for itself. Plus, coming out of competitive retirement to choke out Buchecha is an unbelievable achievement. Rickson never did anything remotely close to that.
Many people talk about Sakarabu and his destruction of the Gracie’s. But Sakarabu had a great stand up game, something no Gracie has ever had. Put Saka in a BJJ match against the Gracie’s he beat in MMA and he would have lost. Royce was terrible at MMA and we know he only won the UFC because no one at that time had a ground game. Once the world started understanding it, Royce started losing. But Royce is still great at Jits and from what I understand has a better record than Rickson.
You had some valid points until your last comparison of Royce Vs Rickson. Royce’s record could be 1000-0 and Rickson 10-0. Rickson would destroy Royce 100-0.
Destroy.
As far as Roger, his MMA-rules fight vs King Mo was heartbreaking for us old school GJJ guys.
Lastly, the “next” greatest at the time of Rickson’s prime was Rigan Machado. You can pull that match up somewhere. ALL (vs “many”) the Jiu-Jitsu guys of his time could “fight,” unlike today.
I said Rodger is the best I said until which has not happened as of yet and like you said it may never
Ain't nobody on his level period dude
Rickson Gracie is the greatest hand's down.
Voeding 2.0 royce himself said rickson is 10x better than himself in every aspect
Roger might be, did Dickson ever rolled with him within the last 15 years
Rugged Dre Louris Rickson is like Bruce Lee. Anyone saying anything less than he’s a deity is condemned.
I’m pretty sure it’s not good to train with injuries..
how old where you when you started bjj
Me (Ryan)?
20 or 21 (1989 sometime).
People want to slag rickson on here in comments but he would of fucked every one of you up really so let’s be real about this he was a savage he would fight anyone any time so those of you who wanna slag him off are just bitter.im just saying coz it’s the truth.
When you compare Rickson to Jordan I don't agree because Rickson never went head to head with multiple best of the best players in the world. Roger I think is actually better in jiu jitsu. He did compete against the best of the best in the world at the time. The great late Carlson Gracie said Rickson never beat Rolls. That Rolls would toy with Rickson. Without Rolls, Rickson would not be were he is at.
Roger Gracie is the best Gracie
4:14 - better at anything than anyone else. Pretty strong statement (unqualified) - better than Stephen Hawking, Einstein, etc.? If that's true, then he's a God to you... To me, he's a great athlete.
Only One “God.”
I mean, you are part of his lineage. You have to say he's the best. Self defense beat sport all day in all scenario
I trained outside his lineage for 15 years, 15 in.
Gentlemen before you make any assertions to who is the best ever always remember as time goes by combat, sports, cultures and even relationships, all evolve. The athletes of today can not be compared (in fairness) to the athletes of yesteryear. Rickson Gracie would probably tell you himself that the greatest jujitsu practitioner ever is the one who loves the art the most, who applies its teachings to their lives and helps their fellowman to improve himself in every way.
Oh don't forget Ivan gomes
the closest to rickson is roger imo... nobody else is close
This guy looks like my Uncle if my Uncle could strangle me.
i agree with the kobe comparison but kevin garnett? HAHAHA
I didn't believe it until Paulo Filho added to the myth...who knows. In MMA he avoided the cross trained fighters and fought cans and pro wrestlers (except funaki)
And Rickson was well into his 40s by then. Probably late 40s.
www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/amp/UnderGround/Paulo-Filho-comment-on-Rickson:1357595
@@KamaJiuJitsu nope,he had his last match at 40 yrs old.in mma, rickson fought very unskilled competition.
No, I’m saying that Filho made his comments while training with Rickson when Rickson was in his late 40s.
He was the greatest in a period of jiujitsu compared to today I don’t think so
Talk Marcelo Garcia
Marshall Faulk 🐑 rams. Must’ve been talkin to a young buck. Didn’t know Marshall Faulk
Rickson never beat Rolls
People very very bais in life, I heard of rickson choking out world champion black belts in seminars...
If Rickson is the fighting GOAT by far, why is his son Kron Gracie been beaten by Marcellos in BJJ and why he wouldn't have any chance in MMA against Demian Maia, Khabib or any other top 10 MMA guy?
Being Rickson' s son does not automatically mean Kron has the same attributes as Rickson nor the experience(s). Kron has stated in a previous interview that he didn't train that often with Rickson, while growing up. Kron is incredible in BJJ but there are levels; however, this does not take away from his BJJ. There is also no shame in losing to Marcelo Garcia.
Kron is not Rickson.
Marcellos is not Rickson.
Maia is not Rickson.
Khabib is not Rickson.
Only Rickson is Rickson.
Rickson O Campeao
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Kron has almost his genes.
Kron grew up in a very similiar environment.
Kron had Rickson and other high level Gracies as teacher and started as a little kid.
So he had the best starting positon and a HUGE starting bonus against all the world class fighters which started training their late teens somewhere in the Amazon or in a Favela.
Even so he can't beat everyone, because the game and technique moved on and got better over time like everything else.
Rickson was the best and WAY ahead of his time but would be crushed by todays top 10 fighters. It's the same with Mohammed Ali, Ben Johnson or Diego Maradona.
There is no shame in that. It's just a sign that Fighting, BJJ, MMA and sport in general is evolving and improving which is awesome
@@highsoflyify I disagree on similar environments. From what I understand, Kron grew up in CA and most of his training was in CA. With the popularity of BJJ and how spread out the Gracie's are, he didn't have constant daily access/training with his relatives, unlike Rickson did while growing up. I'm not saying Kron didn't ever train in Brazil or with family members, I'm saying he didn't have the access or the hours that Rickson did.
Yes, BJJ has evolved over the years. I believe Kron and Rickson have as well, especially Kron -- he trains with the Diaz brothers and crew. The fact that Kron isn't the #1 fighter in the world right now does not take away from his BJJ abilities nor does it from Rickson. Isn't Rickson 61 now? Was Rickson ever the #1 fighter in the world? I'll let others debate that. Could Rickson beat (insert name of any BJJ practitioner) today? With his age and damage to his body; probably not. If both were in their prime? I would put my money on Rickson. His understanding, application, way of thinking, mindset, among other qualities is what makes him special. Do others possess this? Sure, but not at the level, Rickson does.
Could Rickson beat (insert name of any MMA fighter) today? Of course not, he's 61. However, I believe Rickson would've adapted his MMA game if he was in his prime fighting today. There are many stories of Rickson tapping world-class BJJ black belts and even some MMA fighters in training. Yes, I know, some people will say "it's only training and not a real match/fight". However, you still have some of these same people who have gone on record expressing how great Rickson is and how they couldn't do anything to him. Off the top of my head Fabio Gurgel, Paulo Filo, Dave Camarillo, Nino Schembri, his brothers Royce and Royler, and etc. I have yet to hear anyone say that they dominated Rickson or that his BJJ is sub-par.
Speaking of Paulo Filho. www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/amp/UnderGround/Paulo-Filho-comment-on-Rickson:1357595
No, because anecdotes hold no merit for me. Marcelo Garcia is the greatest and it's not even close. The opinion of a Rickson Gracie black belt isn't exactly an unbiased account.
@Kinosis79 Ah, so you're delusional, great.
Rickson vs Ditka... go..
Best of is era. Roger is a goat as well
I have never heard anybody from that era say that Rolls wasnt the best anyone had ever seen
Sakuraba was better. Also Josh Barnett sorry.
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When you look upto someone you always think that he is the only one in this world and you forgets about the 7 billion people in this world !! Just like bruce lee's fans , if someone says he could beat him they just shoot their tounge at him !! Taboo !!!!! They were really good but they have to fight the 7 billion people in the world to prove that they are the strongest or the best 😐
Ryan you're a Rickson fanboy 😂 , but you're right nonetheless
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I’ve learned/trained OUTSIDE of Rickson’s line for exactly half of my 30 years training.
Question :What team/person is Kama Jiu-Jitsu affiliated with?
Answer: Rickson Gracie.
So no wonder Ryan thinks Rickson is the greatest. And when Ryan is asked why, he just gives bs analogies, not any tangible reasons. The bottom line is that it is in Ryan's interest to declare Rickson the greatest, for obvious reasons. Royler and Roger would probably beat him in competition.
We have NO “affiliation.” We just pay homage to GM Rickson for being the source of the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu philosophies/concepts we practice/teach/preach.
@@KamaJiuJitsu At the beginning of every video I see "Kama Jiu-Jitsu: Rickson Gracie Team". So we can split hairs, but clearly Kama Jiu-Jitsu has a connection to Rickson Gracie, if not an affiliation. The only objective way to measure skill is organized competition, Rickson is not even close to the best in that regard. All I am asking for are tangible reasons why he is the greatest ever.
Lol, ok. Whatever, brother.
If we were a Royce/Relson/GU-affiliated school, I would STILL say GM Rickson is the best ever.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Rickson is one of the best ever, no disagreement there. But to say that no one will ever be better... I mean no disrespect, but come on.
Ok, no one born up to and including this morning.
monetize
Wallid Ismail would have stop him... just like he stopped the rest of them.
Seriously?
No way.
Don’t get me wrong, Wallid was good (I even got to train with him once at Franco’s studio after he beat Royce).
But “beat Rickson” good?
Um, no.
Don’t equate putting Royce to sleep with beating Rickson.
@@KamaJiuJitsu I guess as Rickson never wanted to fight him we will never know...
Wallid wasn’t even Carlson, Sr’s best fighter.
Prolly the most loyal student of his by a wide margin, though.
@@KamaJiuJitsu The guy defeated Ralph, ran over Renzo, put Royce to sleep and Rickson never wanted to fight him. You can not blame me for thinking Rickson wouldn't have had a walk in the park fighting Wallid. I think the Gracies were afraid of him at the end. The guy was destroying their most precious asset: their name, and they just couldn't afford to risk it all by getting their best guy defeated by Wallid.
He “beat” Ralph and Renzo in tournaments by points. He was heavier than both (but not by a lot so it doesn’t matter all that much). He did put Royce to sleep with the Carlson version of the Clock Choke (which was impressive).
Don’t forget he also choked out Ryan Gracie in a street fight in Brazil, as well.
So, Wallid beat 4 of them.
Rickson was actually challenged by one of Carlson’s “best ever” in one Amaury Bitteti. IIRC, that fight didn’t happen because the day he challenged Rickson, he got KO’d by Mestre Hulk.
Now, I don’t know first hand, but from what I was told, Amaury was MUCH better than Wallid, good as he was.
At any rate, this convo was great fun, but Rickson had defeated others of a higher caliber.
Ryan, you are gonna have to adopt a different analogy, boss. Michael Jordan isn't kinda maybe the greatest baller of all time. He is definitively the greatest ever. There are no arguments for Russell, Johnson, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, or Kareem being greater than Jordan, even amongst most of these players themselves. Jordan is the greatest, PERIOD. Like with Rickson, the only people claiming anyone is greater than MJ are fringe opinions with recency bias syndrome. To be clear, Jordan isn't considered maybe the best basketball player ever- he is widely considered the greatest athlete ever to play a team sport period. His accolades and stats relative to his position are easily in a class of their own. GSP in mma would be a better analogy. There are better arguments for other goats in mma. Jordan is the Rickson of basketball🤷♂️
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If I included randori wins on my record like Rickson does, then I'd have a record of 465-19. So, no, Marcelo over Rickson any day.
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How many mma pr vale tudo wins does Marcello have, how many does Rikson have! Go figure