Will Durant---The Philosophy of Schopenhauer

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  • Will Durant---The Philosophy of Schopenhauer
    Embark on a thought-provoking journey into the world of Arthur Schopenhauer's philosophy, guided by the erudite Will Durant. In this captivating video, Durant unravels the complex web of Schopenhauer's philosophical ideas, offering deep insights into the life, works, and enduring influence of this remarkable thinker.
    🔍 What You'll Discover:
    Introduction to Arthur Schopenhauer: Gain insights into the life and background of Arthur Schopenhauer, understanding the formative experiences that shaped his unique worldview.
    Schopenhauer's Pessimism: Explore the central theme of Schopenhauer's philosophy - his pessimistic view of life and existence - and its profound implications.
    The Will to Live: Delve into Schopenhauer's concept of the "Will to Live" and its role in human suffering and desire.
    Metaphysics and Aesthetics: Uncover Schopenhauer's metaphysical ideas, including his views on the nature of reality and the power of art to transcend suffering.
    Influence on Existentialism: Discover how Schopenhauer's philosophy laid the groundwork for existentialist thought and influenced thinkers like Nietzsche and Freud.
    Legacy and Contemporary Relevance: Durant examines Schopenhauer's lasting impact on philosophy, psychology, and literature, highlighting his continued relevance in the modern world.

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  • @iniesta
    @iniesta Pƙed 8 lety +163

    the age 0:04 pg 347 many of the poor 4:08 pg 349 the man 5:51 pg 350 After this dissertation 10:56 pg 352 So completely did Schopenhauer 13:25 pg 353 Like a sensible pessimist 15:24 pg 354 He was not too old 17:43 pg 355 The World as Idea 18:43 pg 355 If we had followed materialism 24:19 pg 358 The World as Will 26:38 pg 359 The act of will 31:40 pg 362 Let us try, then 34:47 pg 363 THE WILL TO REPRODUCE 39:10 pg 366 Because the passion 44:17 pg 368 Only in space 47:22 pg 370 Everyone believes himself 50:27 pg 371 The World as Evil 51:05 pg 372 For as the phenomenon 55:00 pg 374 The young hydra 56:22 pg 374 We are unhappy married 59:27 pg 376 To be happy, one must be as ignorant as youth 1:01:32 pg 377 Just as theology is a refuge from death 1:04:23 pg 378 The final refuge is suicide 1:05:48 pg 379 The Wisdom of Life 1:06:50 pg 379 Not wealth but wisdom is the Way 1:08:28 pg 380 This power of the intellect 1:10:02 pg 381 The way out of the evil of endless willing 1:13:34 pg 383 When some external cause or inward disposition 1:14:06 pg 383 GENIUS 1:15:03 pg 384 ART 1:20:21 pg 386 This power of the arts 1:22:52 pg 388 RELIGION 1:23:52 pg 388 Buddhism 1:25:52 pg 389 The Wisdom of Death 1:27:59 pg 390 It is woman that 1:29:40 pg 391 This veneration of women 1:31:55 pg 392 Criticism 1:34:23 pg 394

  • @nupraptorthementalist3306
    @nupraptorthementalist3306 Pƙed 4 lety +55

    Despite his pessimism, I find him to be the most uplifting.

    • @edgregory1
      @edgregory1 Pƙed rokem +2

      "Hope is killing me Jerry!"
      --George Costanza

    • @battragon
      @battragon Pƙed měsĂ­cem +1

      Ha. Yup.

  • @almilligan7317
    @almilligan7317 Pƙed 2 lety +27

    I remember Schopenhauer every day. As Schopenhauer named his poodle Atman, I returned the favor and named my Labradoodle, Schopenhauer. So, I love Schopenhauer.

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      😁😁😁 If you ever have a second dog, dont forget to call him (Frerderic) Nietzsche . . .

  • @kennethcarvalho3684
    @kennethcarvalho3684 Pƙed 5 lety +107

    One of the best narrators ever..makes listening to such a heavy topic a pleasure.

    • @henrywolf5332
      @henrywolf5332 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Schopenhauer is a far greater intellect than Durant. It shows

    • @kennethcarvalho3684
      @kennethcarvalho3684 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @@henrywolf5332 oh was not comparing them.

    • @JamesBath-is-here
      @JamesBath-is-here Pƙed 3 lety +9

      I agree -- this narrator is one of the best. I believe his name is Leighton Pugh.

    • @shannonm.townsend1232
      @shannonm.townsend1232 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@JamesBath-is-here I am sure he has narrated many Phillip K. Dick novels, his voice really adds a wonderfully affable yet wry dimension to the material. A consummate professional.

    • @JamesBath-is-here
      @JamesBath-is-here Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@shannonm.townsend1232 Thanks. I didn't realize that. I'll be on the lookout for that the next time I buy audio.

  • @miscellaneousstuff8362
    @miscellaneousstuff8362 Pƙed 6 lety +78

    Schopenhauer is most undervalued and unrecognized author of all which is punishment for gazing at life and humanity through an unfiltered lens and unashamedly exposing its immutable facts and truths no matter how unpleasant they may be. I am always trying to keep people informed about Schopenhauer, because by promoting him I also promote wisdom and reason in its purest form.

    • @BuceGar
      @BuceGar Pƙed 5 lety +5

      I like him as well, I'm more of an Epicurean, but his insights seem to be correct.
      What he is describing is the struggle of the rational mind to overcome the irrationality of emotion and life.

    • @johnmiller7453
      @johnmiller7453 Pƙed 5 lety +6

      A most wonderful comment my friend and fellow sufferer.

    • @johnmiller7453
      @johnmiller7453 Pƙed 5 lety +8

      I find Schop comforting but 99 +% of the population don't want to know these things. If you really want an accurate picture of humanity read some Thomas Bernhard. I see little point in trying to get people to use reason. That would go against their natures. It's a bad idea to draw this misery out by slightly educating a species that is destined to forever sail the fail boat into a dirty brown sunset.

    • @meepmeep6572
      @meepmeep6572 Pƙed rokem

      @@johnmiller7453 why not get rich educating the public

  • @HotshotGTar
    @HotshotGTar Pƙed 9 lety +42

    A pessimist is an optimist with experience.

    • @EarthAngel504
      @EarthAngel504 Pƙed 9 lety +7

      HotshotGTar An Pessimist is a realist who understands Murphy's Law and Human nature. -Jaygo

    • @S2Cents
      @S2Cents Pƙed 9 lety +2

      HotshotGTar Like a neo-con is "a liberal that's been mugged by reality"? (Joking) Yeah a liberal that was mugged and suffered head trauma resulting in permanent cognitive impairment.

    • @hammeringhank5271
      @hammeringhank5271 Pƙed 6 lety

      K

    • @uniperson9074
      @uniperson9074 Pƙed 6 lety

      Agreed.

  • @emmelinechannel9991
    @emmelinechannel9991 Pƙed 8 lety +67

    One of the true giants of philosophy!

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 Pƙed 6 lety +45

    1:11:35 “.. it is dangerous to read about a subject before we have thought obout it ourselves, when we read, another person thinks for us, we nearly repeat his mental process, so it comes about that if anyone spends almost the whole day in reading, he gradually loses the capacity for thinking..”

  • @blackmetalmagick1
    @blackmetalmagick1 Pƙed 7 lety +71

    Schopenhauer was a Genius, great great stuff.

    • @lordmurphy4344
      @lordmurphy4344 Pƙed 6 lety +11

      Cee Gee gee calm down, lots of philosophers have said dumb sexist and misogynistic stuff, you wouldn’t abandon modern logic just because Frege was an extreme nationalist or Heidegger ontology cause he was a nazi party member. Please piss off with your fake narrow outrage, you must be a woman to be this agitated

    • @AStoicMaster
      @AStoicMaster Pƙed 5 lety +5

      1. Shopenhauer says the sky is blue.
      2. But Shopenhauer believes men are smarter because they rape women.
      3. Therefore, the sky is not blue.
      Shopenhauer's distasteful ideas have nothing to do with whether or not he can have true utterances. You've employed a fatuous ad hominem non sequitur here. Attack the argument, not the person.

    • @BuceGar
      @BuceGar Pƙed 5 lety +9

      Cee Gee is the type of woman Shopenhauer was warning us about.
      How dare Shopenhauer say anything that would dissuade a man from doing irrational things to please a woman...

    • @atiqadam4267
      @atiqadam4267 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      This guy hits the nail on the head!!!!

  • @LunaLu-00
    @LunaLu-00 Pƙed 5 lety +15

    "to convince a man you must appeal to his self-interest, his desires, his will.."

  • @adriancutner2489
    @adriancutner2489 Pƙed 6 lety +48

    Rocky C., I just want to express my gratitude for your uploading the entire Will Durant series. When I was a kid, Schopenhauer was among the first philosophers I read. It was an amazing experience for me; transformative, actually; because I was only a callow youth. I'm in my Senior years now, so it is particularly nostalgic to listen to this, as well as the other, uploads. I believe there will always be a place for Schopenhauer's philosophy. Thank you very much.

    • @ragemsaid8697
      @ragemsaid8697 Pƙed 5 lety

      Adrian Cutner thank u. M a muslim the Qur’an teaches me that this life is not real it’s an illusion. Have u ever look into it? N y? Bcoz here the west is fond of Buddha but not Mohamed n ancient man of billion followers, I always wonder y? Mohamed-pbuh-emphasized: that the real life is when we “die” n meet Allah sw; the creator; the true owner of the soul- n everything in creation. The point here, is to “submit” to him/ to Allah sw n “worship” him alone, n know the true nature of u-hu u r- as human is : u r a slave, a mere servant; thus submit. In that token, Schopenhauer is right n had done a correct imagination.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@ragemsaid8697 Observe the comment section here: czcams.com/video/u-YIzmpzUP0/video.html
      I also request that you watch the movie Tolkien and then consider the fact that one of Tolkien's sons was a Roman Catholic priest for nearly 50 years. Dawkins' notorious book puts the entire thing neatly with its title: The God Delusion!
      Buddhism to the West does not contain any of the pesky things that is in Christianity and Islam and it's creator does not have any particular moral problem by today's standards (something that is especially found in Muhammed) or at least no one has paid any attention to them in however long the man has been written about.

    • @saimbhat6243
      @saimbhat6243 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@artofthepossible7329 Buddhism and west is an oxymoron.
      It is quite funny for me to hear investment bankers or movie celebrities talk about their Buddhist wisdom and meditations.
      People in west use the doctrines of Buddhism to cope up with their stressful lives. Just like daoism, bhuddism is a 500 B.C pro-primitivist worldview, wherein the main problem of the existence is either the self and/or the civilization itself. Current materialistic, hedonistic and consumerist west would have been an unimaginable horror show for the buddha. Actual budhhist masters 1) abandon the worldly life. 2) Dissolve the sense of self hood/ego/personhood. All other renditions of buddha's doctrines in current west are just coping mechanisms and so was it for the Schopenhauer.
      Contrary to this, remove the eurocentric snobbery and contemporary moral sensitives/tastes of the men, Islam is a doctrine for an iron-fisted duel(on spiritual level) with the world, with all its miseries and it emerges as its conqueror.
      If you submit to the divine will, there is nothing in the world to be sad about. Sadness for a true believer, becomes trivial.

  • @infonomics
    @infonomics Pƙed 3 lety +84

    "After copulation, man hears the devil's laughter." - Schopenhauer. A few seconds of pleasure for a lifetime of misery.

    • @benlotus2703
      @benlotus2703 Pƙed 3 lety +11

      Divorce;
      'After copulation, man hears the devil's laughter." - Schopenhauer. A few seconds of pleasure for a lifetime of misery.

    • @jojokintel
      @jojokintel Pƙed rokem +1

      It is the best quote

    • @luisd5098
      @luisd5098 Pƙed rokem +2

      Go on

    • @2Hot2
      @2Hot2 Pƙed rokem

      Unless we cheat the devil for the price of a condom!

    • @averayugen7802
      @averayugen7802 Pƙed rokem +1

      It is funny. How many other statements did he make like such? It would be a great pamphlet, "The mad wit and gloomy humor of Arthur the S".

  • @geoffreynhill2833
    @geoffreynhill2833 Pƙed rokem +6

    Possibly the most eloquent and clear rĂ©sumĂ© of Schopenhauer's thought! đŸ€” PS: Will Durant's "The Story of Philosophy" deserves a place on Everyman's bookshelf. (Green Fire, UK) 🌈🩉

    • @geoffreynhill2833
      @geoffreynhill2833 Pƙed rokem

      Schopenhauer was a profound and prescient thinker on the rĂŽle and future of philosophy & religion. "Science requires talent but Art requires genius". Sadly, he was also profoundly male chauvinist. â˜č

  • @orno8906
    @orno8906 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

    thank you for the obvious love you have given to this project! Will and Ariel Durant are amazing thinkers, but their true genius is in the presentation and preservation of history, art and philosophy.

  • @jamesderoc6717
    @jamesderoc6717 Pƙed 8 lety +61

    schop makes me happy

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 Pƙed 6 lety +11

    1:10:40 “ The more we know about our passions, the less they control us”

  • @MrPoe22
    @MrPoe22 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    My philosophy of life is in equal alignment with Schopenhauer’s. I believe his genius can only be fully appreciated and understood after having had very specific life experiences, particularly with regards to his views on women.

  • @iconoclast1399
    @iconoclast1399 Pƙed rokem +6

    Schopenhauer lets me laugh at the obsurdity of life. As Will durant said "If life is but a bitter jest, let us forget the bitterness and remember the jest".

  • @SIMKINETICS
    @SIMKINETICS Pƙed 9 lety +52

    The more I admire human potential, the more I'm disappointed by human folly.

    • @juanrosales7687
      @juanrosales7687 Pƙed 4 lety

      estas desiulucionado....de, DIOS. ...no, seas ...COBARDE....y......admitelo, eres un jesusfreack....

  • @Sidionian
    @Sidionian Pƙed 2 lety +12

    Let us take a moment of silence to bow before this giant of philosophy: Arthur Shopenhauer, God among insects.

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 Pƙed rokem +1

      Yep my freind. But he wanted us to be GODS TOO ! And I aim for that goal . . .

  • @michauxburn
    @michauxburn Pƙed 2 lety +7

    "Nothing is more provoking, when we are arguing against a man with reasons & explanations, & taking all pains to convince him, than to discover at last that he WILL not understand - that we have deal with his Will" (-Schopenhauer).

    • @1shpendi
      @1shpendi Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +1

      This was very good the way he describes it, so true.

    • @paulahoskins9972
      @paulahoskins9972 Pƙed 3 dny

      The cognitive dissonance of today would flip Schopenhauer's wig.

  • @randalllake2785
    @randalllake2785 Pƙed rokem +6

    The artist who painted the portrait of Schopenhauer is brilliant. BRILLIANT

  • @vincentyoung2146
    @vincentyoung2146 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +2

    Thanks!

  • @LunaLu-00
    @LunaLu-00 Pƙed 6 lety +18

    "the will is a strong blind man that carries on his shoulders the lame man that can see" (will vs intellect)

  • @stevekennedy5380
    @stevekennedy5380 Pƙed 5 lety +5

    Durant and Schopenhauer were both great thinkers. My modest opinion is that Schopenhauer is more accurate in his description of the human experience.

  • @lylecosmopolite
    @lylecosmopolite Pƙed 2 lety +5

    I had never thought of the post-Napoleonic world as one where hope for the future had seemingly gone to die. Good point.
    Additional fact. The summer of 1816 was the coldest ever since the invention of the thermometer. The reason was a supervolcanic eruption in what is now Indonesia, an event that resulted in snow and killing frosts in July. Crops failed badly all over northwest Europe. Tens of thousands must have starved to death, or survived only by selling their land to the local lord or to a moneylender.
    I do not agree that Schubert, Chopin or Mendelson were pessimistic composers. Beethoven's Ode to Joy is robustly optimistic.
    During his student days, Schopenhauer got into an argument with his working class landlady. The two came to blows and he pushed her down a flight of stairs. She took him to court and won; Schopenhauer was ordered to pay her damages and had to find new lodgings. This incident has been invoked to explain Schopenhauer's confirmed misoginy throughout his life. He wrote things like "women have no innate sense of justice" etc.

    • @1shpendi
      @1shpendi Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

      Thnx. Good info.

  • @frankmuller596
    @frankmuller596 Pƙed 7 lety +25

    Great stuff this, a clever guy who could see through it all.

    • @terrypogue
      @terrypogue Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Clearly the narrator is Gover Gardner, on eFax the best.

    • @terrypogue
      @terrypogue Pƙed 6 lety +1

      One of the best!

  • @kenthomas856
    @kenthomas856 Pƙed 9 lety +5

    Will Durant is great.... Thanks much, Rocky.

  • @johnmitchell8925
    @johnmitchell8925 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    I really enjoy these podcast they don't eat up my slow limited internet and I can just lay here on the couch and enjoy. Hard to believe this guy and all his thoughts so long ago it's chilling

  • @zatoichiable
    @zatoichiable Pƙed 8 lety +29

    These philosophers are much like rock musicians. They cant be called rockers unless they had a terrible life of drugs and abuse.

  • @PennyDreadful1
    @PennyDreadful1 Pƙed 6 lety +79

    Will Durant's criticism of him seem to be a general "get out of the house and play football with the other blander kids and stop listening to all that edgy music and be so grumpy all the time" Maybe the point is that if you are not caught up in physical and social action all the time and start thinking about things from the outside and from a cosmic perspective life all seems pretty gross, arbitrary and cruel precisely because it is.

    • @DMHR100
      @DMHR100 Pƙed 6 lety +6

      I read the entire book some years ago and that was the weakest criticism for any philosopher I've seen.

    • @HughMorristheJoker
      @HughMorristheJoker Pƙed 6 lety +10

      IntermediateJesus almost all criticism of schopenhauer Falls flat because he wasn't sad or lonely or so upset or miserable. He enjoyed nice dinners he enjoyed Solitude and study. He was merely saying that the way most people live life thinking that they're going to be eternally happy and that they're going to make it one day and that life is a journey well all that's wrong and schopenhauer was right about that.

    • @MacSmithVideo
      @MacSmithVideo Pƙed 5 lety +1

      its not the worst criticism for someone who was clearly a sickly shut in. His perspective was limited.

    • @johnmiller7453
      @johnmiller7453 Pƙed 5 lety +14

      Exactly, Schopenhauer obviously made Durant uncomfortable. However to his credit he did a pretty good job with this overall. Durant was no slouch. We all have places in ourselves we can't go. He had family and wife and to fully agree with the Schop would make all that seem like a bad mistake.

    • @FirsToStrike
      @FirsToStrike Pƙed 5 lety +2

      There is no cosmic perspective, as the cosmos is not alive, we are, and so we project will on the cosmos, and then find that it is alive. And if what is said to be the cosmic perspective disappears just as transiently as anything else when you go play with the other kids, at least if you had the "lack of knowledge" that is necessary to actually have fun with that, then maybe that cosmic perspective is just as illusory as all other perspectives, and maybe we should leave the exploration of perspectives be, and go play.

  • @OrganicBatteryAcid
    @OrganicBatteryAcid Pƙed 8 lety +3

    this is incredible thanks for uploading

  • @lawrencebloom2454
    @lawrencebloom2454 Pƙed 5 lety +3

    Schopenhauer wasn’t to concerned about containing his own ego. It was a defect that constrained his philosophy, by constraining his intellectual honesty.

  • @rolldeepNASA
    @rolldeepNASA Pƙed 3 lety +2

    to see things purely as objects of understanding is to rise to freedom

  • @enigmahammer444
    @enigmahammer444 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    Ive listened to this more than I care to admit, huge classic. You are a legend for having this up on here for all of us to watch. Hope all is well with you!

  • @michaelleblanc7283
    @michaelleblanc7283 Pƙed 7 lety +2

    Excellent - absolutely excellent !

  • @robertrowland1061
    @robertrowland1061 Pƙed 8 lety +2

    Thank you INIESTA for compiling this!
    24:19
    the age 0:04 pg 313 many of the poor 4:08 pg 314 the man 5:51 pg 315 After this dissertation 10:56 pg 317 So completely did Schopenhauer 13:25 pg 318 Like a sensible pessimist 15:24 pg 319 He was not too old 17:43 pg 320 The World as Idea 18:43 pg 320 If we had followed materialism 24:19 pg 323 The World as Will 26:38 pg 324 The act of will 31:40 pg 326 Let us try, then 34:47 pg 327 THE WILL TO REPRODUCE 39:10 pg 329 Because the passion 44:17 pg 331 Only in space 47:22 pg 332 Everyone believes himself 50:27 pg 333 The World as Evil 51:05 pg 334 For as the phenomenon 55:00 pg 335 The young hydra 56:22 pg 336 We are unhappy married 59:27 pg 337 To be happy, one must be as ignorant as youth 1:01:32 pg 338 Just as theology is a refuge from death 1:04:23 pg 339 The final refuge is suicide 1:05:48 pg 339 The Wisdom of Life 1:06:50 pg 340 Not wealth but wisdom is the Way 1:08:28 pg 341 This power of the intellect 1:10:02 pg 341 The way out of the evil of endless willing 1:13:34 pg 343 When some external cause or inward disposition 1:14:06 pg 343 GENIUS 1:15:03 pg 343 ART 1:20:21 pg 346 This power of the arts 1:22:52 pg 347 RELIGION 1:23:52 pg 347 Buddhism 1:25:52 pg 348 The Wisdom of Death 1:27:59 pg 349 It is woman that 1:29:40 pg 350 This veneration of women 1:31:55 pg 351 Criticism 1:34:23 pg 352

  • @luigipati3815
    @luigipati3815 Pƙed 5 lety +14

    Not only is that "pessimist" nonsensical label gratuitously attributed to Schopenhauer (even he disagreed with it), but even to composers like Schubert, Beethoven, Chopin, Schumann.....that is the first time I hear about it, and I learned almost everything about their lives. Nonsense. For example, Beethoven composed most works in the major key (happy), and even many of the ones in minor key (darker and sad) ended in major key. Beethoven was actually for victory after the struggle, he even wrote about it in what is famously called the "Heilingenstadt Testament". These composers have nothing to do with "pessimism", even though their lives have been really sad. Each of them wrote majestic and triumphant music, with nothing at all "pessimist" in it. A quick and brilliant example is the Mazurka in F op 68 by Chopin. But there are innumerable ones, by all the great composers mentioned.

  • @batsky6061
    @batsky6061 Pƙed 3 lety +15

    Does anyone else when listening to or reading Schopenhauer feel as if he were somehow your own conscience?

    • @ahuman5150
      @ahuman5150 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Sort of. Whenever I saw something in this life and wondered about it, by reading Schopenhauer, I felt like he was grabbing my head, point it in one direction and said, "look, there it is." And it all made sense.

    • @Guilherme-mg5fn
      @Guilherme-mg5fn Pƙed 2 lety

      You asking that because you have any anime or mangĂĄ in mind?

    • @batsky6061
      @batsky6061 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Guilherme-mg5fn Ahh hello fellow weeb.

    • @DawsonSWilliams
      @DawsonSWilliams Pƙed rokem +3

      At various points of my life, yes! Whenever I see a beetle writhing on the ground, attempting to get back on its legs, I think of the suffering of life (in the context of Schopenhauer.) I mean this seriously, because it brings to mind the pity so essential to Schopenhauer’s Ethics.

    • @1shpendi
      @1shpendi Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

      Its great

  • @LunaLu-00
    @LunaLu-00 Pƙed 6 lety +9

    "dark death - the only victor of all the wars"

    • @thadtuiol1717
      @thadtuiol1717 Pƙed 4 lety

      Yeah, and not just the Napoleonic ones, EVERY WAR EVER FOUGHT

  • @EzraAChen
    @EzraAChen Pƙed 9 lety +2

    Thanks for posting it

  • @tensevo
    @tensevo Pƙed 6 lety +3

    Fantastic content. Just perfect narration.

  • @carloscamachopsychologist4800

    Beautifully explained. Thank you.

  • @royerreasonist
    @royerreasonist Pƙed 3 lety

    Thanks so much Rocky C.

  • @hongganglai3758
    @hongganglai3758 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Thanks for sharing! Great channel!

  • @carloscamachopsychologist4800

    Amazing. Thank you.

    • @planksip
      @planksip Pƙed rokem +1

      I enjoy reading Schopenhauer as well.

  • @sunglassesnadvil
    @sunglassesnadvil Pƙed 4 lety +5

    he’s the man!

  • @timblackburn1593
    @timblackburn1593 Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Sincere thanks to Iniesta for the timings (below) ...BTW - it won't come as any surprise to anyone reading this - but your discipline and presence across world football is the most inspirational display of controlled will the sport has ever seen...all the best against Leicester tonight, you might need it ;-)

  • @winterramos4527
    @winterramos4527 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    I'm in my mid 30's and I'm getting more and more closer to philosophy

  • @piushalg8175
    @piushalg8175 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

    It is an opinion widely shared that Schopenhauer was one of the most brilliant stylists of German tongue.And as a German speaking personI have to consent. And moreover Schopenhauer appears to me as a very honest man.

  • @ceejay9336
    @ceejay9336 Pƙed 8 lety +1

    Lovely!

  • @TheModernHermeticist
    @TheModernHermeticist Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Thx for posting

    • @neillioen
      @neillioen Pƙed 6 lety

      Thank you for posting as well.

  • @goodnatureart
    @goodnatureart Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +1

    Thank you!

  • @rolldeepNASA
    @rolldeepNASA Pƙed 3 lety +4

    o' how these readings have sustained me... even at this very moment..

  • @cinnamon4605
    @cinnamon4605 Pƙed rokem

    This is beauty ❀

  • @edwardferry8247
    @edwardferry8247 Pƙed 3 lety +12

    Imagine writing one of the great works of philosophy in your 20’s.

    • @DawsonSWilliams
      @DawsonSWilliams Pƙed rokem +4

      Truly! I feel like Caesar when he reflected on the spoils of a young Alexander-I have lived in vain.
      It’s amazing that Hume, Wittgenstein, and Schopenhauer were able to complete some of the most influential works in philosophy, while in their twenties.

  • @wolf359survivor2
    @wolf359survivor2 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I never knew how much of a pessimist I was for agreeing with Schopenhauer On Marriage. Yet, he is right.

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 Pƙed 5 lety

    Context, thank you Will Durant.
    Mechanism conducts Dynamism, all combined in time-timing => "Will" meant constant change, by default.
    Then there's a repertoire of observations in the context of the era that are useful assertions today because the context is better known, so Philosophy has developed.

  • @lawrence9506
    @lawrence9506 Pƙed 6 lety +30

    Schopenhauer was very far ahead of his time where humans were viewed as glorious creations of a benevolent God. Being human is not a wonderful gift of joy.

    • @jonasdamion1627
      @jonasdamion1627 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      it can be though, which means that it can be even more, which mean it can be ...? how much? You could be christ..

    • @Infamous41
      @Infamous41 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      He was far behind in time he was prematurely a philosopher or a man 8n the wrong times

    • @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676
      @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      @@Infamous41
      As a man who has studied this time period very thoroughly, I can tell you
      He was Far Far Ahead of his time.
      Not perfect, but ahead of most others at the time.

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 Pƙed 3 lety

    It seems to me that in our day, more than in some other days, but quite often at other times, the innate moral sense is primarily the inner guide to the temptation of profitability. If human civilizations, or perhaps even non human civilizations exist on other planets, it may well be that the universe naturally evolved to only permit these constructs to be forever both far apart and excessively prone to self destruction. They are perhaps the flower of the plant known as a planet, and like flowers, serving only a temporary purpose after which they quickly disappear. This, in turn, protects the universe from self destruction. OTOH, in a somewhat more negative mode, one might consider the blossoming of human civilizations to be the planetary equivalent of a mold or a fungus which in the long run will only mark or scar the tree.
    I think, that while it could never be perfect, this recording was really quite excellent and well worth the listen.

  • @johnmiller7453
    @johnmiller7453 Pƙed 6 lety +13

    I have noticed that Durant does not "critique" all the Philosophers. Hardly any in fact. If he's going that route he should forgo the critique and let the listener make any decisions as to the qualifications of the Philosopher. Unless you've suffered all the cruelties of life I wouldn't be so quick to minimize them and to say that each man makes his own fate is just plain self indulgent ignorance and lack of empathy and compassion. Some people don't get a fair deal which would allow them to benefit from the disasters/challenges that befall them. Take children for example who may suffer long before they can use reason to understand the situation. Durant makes a critique when Schopenhauer is unable to answer which IMO would have been very easy for most any rational thinker. I see much more misery and denial than joy of living. This is often the case of those who catch lucky breaks in life. They ignore the others true sufferings and belittle them. Schopenhauer is not IMO an unfortunate soul. And as to suicide Durant should turn to Ernest Becker to see how suicide is actually another way to the "Denial of Death". The others have more practical reason such as relief of physical pain. Durant has one of his rare fails here and has shown himself to be a lesser man however learned. Now we have a critique of you Durant. Enjoy.
    Other than that this was excellent. Schopenhauer is one of my very favorite philosophers and one of the reasons I have become a fan of antinatalism.

    • @Guilherme-mg5fn
      @Guilherme-mg5fn Pƙed 2 lety +6

      Throughout the book, I've noticed that Will Durant is, or at least tends to be, a relativistic man, and it's obvious that someone who sees the philosopher as an outfit that changes according to the moods is not conducive to criticism. or honest reviews. Because of this, I will show in an initial observation and in three points later that his criticism of Schopenhauer's philosophy is dishonest because it is based on forgeries and the opportunistic refusal to consider fundamental aspects that would be obstacles to its purposes. Well, let's go:
      The initial observation I wanted to make concerns the pseudo-refutation he made of the doctrine of the slavery of the will, a doctrine that was already present between the Stoics and St. Augustine before being appropriated by Schopenhauer (it is obvious that he received different names for each of them. of philosophies). He says that being a slave to the will isn't all that bad because total satisfaction might not be the best thing to look for and that there are things worth pursuing on their own like, for example, the "conquest", the " overcoming" and "strengthening". The problem is that he didn't make any rebuttals by saying this and, in fact, all he managed to do was make a basic mess by putting the object in front of the purpose. Let me explain: Every time we want something, we need it and we only need it because its absence causes us suffering, so we look for it not to suffer, and not for itself. Thus, the purpose of all wanting is always not to suffer and never the object that causes suffering, which is always just a tool. It also follows from this reasoning that life according to wanting can never provide what it seeks, which is the satisfaction of not suffering, because the satisfaction is merely momentary and the wanting is infinite, so that the want itself is the cause of suffering. Now, according to all the correct reasoning set out, it follows that the "refutation" Wil Durant's is an atrocious stupidity because how can a person achieve a life worth living and happy through a lifestyle that never delivers what it promises and that only causes suffering, which is precisely what one escapes from adopting this Lifestyle? He says it might be better not to live fully satisfied, but he recommends a life whose only goal is the satisfaction of not suffering. Amazing logic. If you incessantly want something, you use methods that make you get it, and not fruitless methods. It is completely meaningless, a pseudo-refutation of a born relativist.
      The first point I wanted to comment on concerns his own statements. He says that the unhappy and pessimistic man is blamed for his own unhappiness for having ruined his life rather than seeking to mold it to be a better place for himself. The problem is that he does not see that this transformation of his own life for the better only happens through the denial of it through ascesis precisely because life is essentially bad and that, regardless of whether this is done or not, the world continues to be in its totality a hostile and deplorable place. Still according to him, there is a mediocre happy life, honest pleasures and ascesis is the attitude of the apathetic man, but these assertions he can only make, of course, through the aforementioned pseudo-refutation and deliberate ignorance of the inherent evils of the world and of man. Furthermore, he still says that the pessimistic man is only like that because of boredom and because he has not lived a "normal" life, but what he ignores is that both types of men (both the "boring" and those of "normal life") are unhappy, differing only in the degree of unhappiness. Finally, he claims that the man of high intellectuality has both his pleasure and his suffering increased, but he forgets that pleasure grows in arithmetical progression, while suffering grows in geometric progression.
      The second point he wanted to comment on deals not with what he said in itself, but what he did not say. He makes a point of mentioning thebirdsong and contemplative beauty (as if Schopenhauer had not already responded to this), but "innocently" forgets to mention more unpleasant things present in nature and in the world. Why didn't he mention, for example, the fact that hyenas open up and eat buffaloes while they are still alive? Why didn't he mention the "beautiful" attitude of chimps who kill their rivals with cruelty and then cannibalize them? Why didn't he talk about male white sharks raping female white sharks? Or why didn't he mention the male African lions, which drive out the weaker male lion and kill, and sometimes even eat, its young? Now, the most important question: why did he ignore human selfishness? Why didn't he allude to the fact that the state only exists because people are naturally selfish and evil? Why didn't he mention the fact that it's impossible for two or more people to be together for a long time without them soon starting to kill and use each other, so everywhere you see murder, torture, rape, racism, inequalities and so on? The answer to all these questions is obvious: He didn't mention any of this because it would be inconvenient to his overly optimistic ends. These aspects of Schopenhauer's reality and philosophy would make it impossible for him to defend the "nice" world thesis. He hides what causes him fear and displeasure. A smart and cowardly relativist.
      The third and final point he wanted to comment on concerns not what he said or did not say, but rather an erroneous impression he seemed to have and which many people also have. A lot of people (including Will Durant, I believe) think (in his case, he thought) that pessimism is synonymous with sadness and depression. Turns out pessimism has nothing to do with any of this. Pessimism is merely acknowledging the world as it is, that is, as essentially evil and taking action based on that knowledge, that is, acting in such a way as not to create false illusions and have no regrets whatsoever. That's it. If a person is pessimistic and has sadness and depression, this is accidental rather than substantial. I'm sure Schopenhauer never wrote his philosophy to make people sad and depressed, but only to make them see the world as it is and thus be able to act in the best possible way in life.

  • @philippecolin151
    @philippecolin151 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    Superbly read, thank you

  • @timblackburn4052
    @timblackburn4052 Pƙed 7 lety +3

    1h40m - Schopenhauer fought and won! 44,738 views in 21 months of this upload alone, 160yrs after dying! Are there 100 others in this class.

  • @jimjimmy7437
    @jimjimmy7437 Pƙed 6 lety

    great works

  • @Kobe29261
    @Kobe29261 Pƙed 8 lety +2

    Thank you.

  • @JackSmith-up7qt
    @JackSmith-up7qt Pƙed 5 lety +2

    Will Durant studied the greatest humans in history not skepticaly, but definitely harshly

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 Pƙed 6 lety +4

    1:16:47 “..free from will, the intellect can see the object as it is.”

  • @trfj291
    @trfj291 Pƙed 9 lety

    Great uploads! Do you have any more Durant like his History of Civilisation?

  • @atiqadam4267
    @atiqadam4267 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    S. H. HAS CHANGED MY LIFE..

  • @kelvioford
    @kelvioford Pƙed 6 lety +4

    That guy could pass for Robocops great grandfather

  • @johnmitchell8925
    @johnmitchell8925 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    This is so incredibly accurate

  • @alanmann6099
    @alanmann6099 Pƙed 3 lety

    " Anthology of woe". Love it.

  • @rust719
    @rust719 Pƙed 6 lety +5

    I love this man, he's my master.

  • @HughMorristheJoker
    @HughMorristheJoker Pƙed 8 dny

    The greatest!

  • @dipschannel7867
    @dipschannel7867 Pƙed 5 lety

    i enjoyed the lecture

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all of it 1:48:35

  • @lordtains
    @lordtains Pƙed 2 lety

    This is so damm good

  • @zanagorman4858
    @zanagorman4858 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    speechless

  • @lastunctives2095
    @lastunctives2095 Pƙed 6 lety

    Masterly thrilling.

  • @thetawaves48
    @thetawaves48 Pƙed 5 lety

    Read this in High School, many years ago.

  • @songwritertravislee524
    @songwritertravislee524 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Very good. Dir.

  • @jefftheriault3914
    @jefftheriault3914 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +2

    Schopenhauer undoubtedly was influenced by the late war. Just as the next set would be in the 1920's. It must have been a similar scene in Greece after the end of the Peloponnesian war.

  • @jeffreyriley8742
    @jeffreyriley8742 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    I REALLY like this guy. (other than his comments about women.

  • @sudhirpatel7620
    @sudhirpatel7620 Pƙed rokem +1

    Nature goes on forever for everyone and everything to return as everyone and everything an infinite number of times through evolutionary processes. 🌌

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 Pƙed 6 lety +1

    1:17:32 “..the secret of genius then lies in the clear and imparcial perception of the objective, the essential and the universal..”

  • @frankmuller596
    @frankmuller596 Pƙed 8 lety +4

    Genius Arttur

  • @MTM530
    @MTM530 Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you

  • @lylecosmopolite
    @lylecosmopolite Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I assume that the Durants wrote the text that is spoken in this video.
    Where did they publish this text?

  • @annwilliams7705
    @annwilliams7705 Pƙed 8 lety

    Thanks.

  • @nowrozraisani6920
    @nowrozraisani6920 Pƙed 3 lety

    Love you.

  • @skstan1965
    @skstan1965 Pƙed 8 lety +1

    1:03 Fear of death is the beginning of philosophy, and of religion.
    1:06 Even as the rainbow endures however fast the drops that supports it may chance to fall.

  • @johnabraham8297
    @johnabraham8297 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    @10:10 he was absolutely alone...and between one and none, there lies the infinity.. Wow.

  • @frankmuller596
    @frankmuller596 Pƙed 7 lety +1

    The world as will and idea

  • @tonyrummage5510
    @tonyrummage5510 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    I have always been an ignorant man
    This series has been extremely interesting
    But alas my ignorance persists lol

  • @hugod2000
    @hugod2000 Pƙed 7 lety

    which book is this read from, i missed it?

  • @johnmatheson2760
    @johnmatheson2760 Pƙed 5 lety

    I am a realist, but there is so much here which is good.

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 Pƙed 6 lety +5

    1:04:05 “The fear of death is the beginning of philosophy and the final cause of religion”

    • @noahbrown4388
      @noahbrown4388 Pƙed 2 lety

      Ernest Becker - And terror management theory. We’re destined to lose the race in the end - 2nd law of thermodynamics and whatnot. But.. is that all there is??

    • @polymathable
      @polymathable Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      such a gem of a line.

  • @fatihsultanmehmet7204
    @fatihsultanmehmet7204 Pƙed 6 lety

    thanks

  • @seanc.murphy3573
    @seanc.murphy3573 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    who’s the orator of these Will Durant readings? just terrific!

  • @atiqadam4267
    @atiqadam4267 Pƙed 3 lety

    Nothing has profoundly changed me until I met shopenhenhoir!!! I am lost