Making Lipless Crankbaits, that work
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- čas přidán 4. 02. 2021
- Making lipless crankbaits has been hit-or-miss for me lately. I might make an excellent lure one day and follow it up with a dud the next. So I did a bunch of experimentation and came up with a bit of a formulaic approach to designing and building lipless crankbaits. I even learned some subtle tricks to add a bit more shimmy to the action. #lures #luremaking #lurepainting #woodlure
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I know I left some details of the design out of the video. If you are thinking of making your own using my design criteria, you can find additional guidance in the description. Good luck and please share your lipless lure design photos on the Engineered angler Facebook Page. facebook.com/Engineered-Angler-942406932590968/
Franco just want to say thanks again for making all the tutorials. Any time I get stuck I can go back through your extensive playlist and find the information I need. Really this is an invaluable reference collection for amateur lure builders. Thank you.
Great to hear! Thank you for the great comment.
Great job and beautiful lure! One of the things I'm enjoying in your videos is the water footage. That aspect really brings it home and completes the tutorial! The extra time it takes to do that is much appreciated.
Awesome, thank you!
I've learned a ton from your channel. I have been binge watching lure making channels for a couple of months and figured I have some of this all figured out. Ha! Cutting baits isn't a issue, however spraying them is more of a challenge then I would of thought. Cleaning the airbrush between colors is a royal pain. All of these videos make it look fairly simple but it's not as easy as I looks. Besides being a engineer you're also a fantastic artist!
Thanks for your efforts in posting the videos. Just know it's certainly appreciated. I look forward to the next episode.
I tried building my first lipless lure, followed your sizes (so I thought) to the letter, put the weight high up and it swam like the Red October on a crazy ivan manoeuvre !
It was way too light, sort of corkscrewed around, clipped the surface.... not good.
I added some weight well forward and low and it was a great improvement.
Then I found these comments and now I feel a whole lot better... its not just me !
Experience is a hard lesson to learn, keep up the technical stuff I'm learning so much.
I think this is one of your best videos. It provided solid scientific guidance without being difficult for us non-engineers to follow. You are one of my favorite CZcams lure makers - always look forward to upcoming videos.
Wow, thank you!
Yaaasssss... the nerdy stuff is where it’s at! 💯
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Great craftsmanship! God is good! God bless!
Very cool!! Glad I found the channel! As an engineer it’s great to see all of the design issues and details that go into a lure that no one ever thinks about. Thanks for the videos!
Welcome aboard!
As an engineer who specialized (in school mind you) in fluid dynamics and hydraulics I just wanted to say that not only do your videos provide a much needed refresher on the basics for me I also appreciate the work you’ve obviously put in to applying those principles effectively to lure design. The infinite variables that go into how a lure performs is daunting, if it wasn’t they would have an app for that. You have done an excellent job of showcasing the things that matter most from the things that might matter sometimes and making that distinction is a truly invaluable skill that only incredible passion combined with incredible perseverance can supply. I have the degree so what… without what you share I would be a lifetime behind where I am and god knows how much money (well more money haha) in the scrap bucket of failed designs.
Thank you sir.
Thank you so much! I really cherish positive feedback from fellow engineers. Cheers.
Hace 3 dias vengo viendo videos para hacer mis propios señuelos... Y usted Sr es un verdadero maestro... Mañana comienzo a fabricar los mios. Muchas gracias por su video.
Le deseo suerte pescando con su propio señuelos....y gracias.
Nice work !
Great job sir !
Thank you.
Hello, ohhh I couldn’t watched until today, such such a great job, wowww me and my girlfriend love the purple color and they swimming amazing, well done buddy. I am now working in the computer for the new minnow sinking design and you inspire me a lot. I suggest the next video will be about how you use the airbrush it means heads and diameters of needles and the distance you must do it to have a properly job with the lures. As well as could be the quantity of water or aqua mix you use to make more liquid the paint and the needle distance ??? It is a lot things but we want to learn for the best 🤙🏼🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
Perfect!!
Hey Franco , I was wondering if you could
Make a video on the acción of the different accions you can actually get with liure lips
Because they are narrow , straight, square rounded etc .
Some at deeper and others in shallow
Etc.
Thanks 🙏
Jesse from RustyLures
Hi, I really enjoyed this video a lot! Nice and very clear building lure guidelines for all of us in the catching fishes field......just wondering to see some fishes being hooked up!!!! Take care...
Glad you enjoyed it! The water is a bit too cold for this kind of bait... but in spring...!
Enjoying the EA journey & success with these great videos. Congrats brah!! Seems like you have mastered the artificial bait Design/Build. 👊
Thanks bro...trying new stuff all the time.
Beautiful
Thank you! Cheers!
Excellent
Thanks
i have watched this several times because i have built a couple before and was really humbled by their poor performance. I have crankbaits down to where i can adjust the diving lip angle, size and shape to get a tight wobble to a large wobble. rarely do they give me issues. Lipless however is another story lol. so, thanks Franco I will try the measure ments and weight placement to see if I can get something that is satisfactory. Well done video as always!!!
That is exactly where I was before I did a bunch of experiments and came up with this system.
Those are awesome! I can see them catching lots of fish. I wonder how large you can make one and still have good action. The salt water one would be killer for some big reds where I fish.
I know right!? Big reds and trout on the flats!
Great Video! Currently working on a large muskie sized version but with all the ice up here in Canada it's a bit hard to test the action! Very helpful hints on the weighting! Can't wait to see your 6" version video!
Do you have a video of the 'flea'? wanted to build a floating version that will dive when retrieved...
No sorry, the Flea was pre-CZcams. Thanks.
@@EngineeredAngler can you do a flea' video'?
I place my lead low and forward but I’m gonna try and and put it near the line tie!
High and at or just forward of the tie eye seems to work most reliably...good luck.
You ever thought of making some “stick baits”. I think that is the Australian jargon for them. Example is the Halco 105
You mean the popper or the stickbaits?
@@EngineeredAngler stickbaits. in America we use that term differently. Maybe we call them glide baits? A halco 105 or 150 is a good example
I would like to see a hollow plastic rattle trap style bait, and a shad rap style bait. Also something made out of resin that mimics wood
I have done all those...check out my videos😁
It seemed like the bluegill ran a little more nose down. Maybe that made for the tighter wobble?
Could be...that was not the most controlled test that's for sure. But I have done the fin to the top method a few times and so far it seams to give it a bit more amplitude.
Nice lures, so the fin placement does make a difference 👍 how about a 7" one piece slow sinking glide bait? Think that would be interesting! Good luck with building the chanel this year buddy
Cool idea! Was thinking about a glide bait.
@@EngineeredAngler excellent, I hope you do it & get the video up soon, really looking forward to seeing your design 👍
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Really really helpful 👍, but I couldn't tell how fast they sink
About two feet per second...moderately fast
Would like to see you build a walleye 7" deep dive with a loud rattle
7"
Enjoyed the video, putting fins on seem to cause a better stability in the movement, which have taken on board. Looking forward to you finishing your boat.
Thanks 👍
Great vid mate 😍🇬🇧😎, look up axia Vulcan surface lure... it’s a copy from a more expensive brand ? But boy dose it perform for my surface (sea) bass fishing 🇬🇧😎👍. Anyway.... I’m trying to make a larger/heavier one around the 30gr mark. I thought this might be a challenge for you as it’s a bit different? As it’s got a “belly) vane !! Makes walking the dog action niccccce an slow with lots of twitch 😎👍
Yes...I like it. The lure is shaped for long casts and that means they had to get clever with the little belly keel to move the center of drag forward so the lure will walk-the-dog. It would be a good way to show the principles in play. Thanks for the suggestions.
Good👍👍👍🎖️💓💓💓💓
Seriously I really enjoy your videos. I thought I could just put an eye on top with weight towards the front... not the case. Thank you for this video. I’ve only been making lures for a few months. Things I have difficulties with are, making lips symmetrical, and painting with different nozzles. There are many videos out there, but none of them really explain the nozzle and needles. I have been painting with a , actually I’m not sure, it came with nozzle and needle in it already. It’s great for covering not so great for details so a video on nozzle and needle types would be awesome. I also have an idea for a top water or crank bait with a replaceable tail that would come out the back of the lure like a muskrat. I want to be able to use different color soft plastics, So I have to design a pin or something that would lock the tail in the center hole at the back of the lure, but also is able to be taken out and not too bulky. Any guidance or ideas would be cool thanks for the videos. I really enjoy the technical side of lure making, since I usually like to wing it
Thank you so much. The truth is that you can "wing-it" and have some success. I do it all the time, I just start shaping and build a lure. The issue comes in when you want to repeat your success or correct a failure. Thank you and good luck with your lures.
Perdón !!!! cromado quise decir , ese efecto plateado que le diste con el aerografo, gracias
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Estás iscas cranks ficaram top parabéns
Obrigada
The fin directly affects the boundary layer and shed wakes from the trailing edge. The dorsal and pectoral fins work in tandem (probably important in swimbaits.) Several interesting papers on the fluid dynamics of fish fins:
academic.oup.com/icb/article/50/6/1155/629042
web.mit.edu/towtank/www/papers/drag-reduction-fish.pdf
Your video does a great job in analyzing crankbait design!
Thank you for watching and thanks for the links. One of the big reasons that I am reluctant to use fins on my lures is that they tend to dampen good lure action. It's easy to forget that on a fish, fins are active control and propulsion devices. On a lure they are static surfaces that are usually only there for esthetics and end up being more of a design liability than a benefit. On these types of crankbaits though, they appear to be a possible strategy for better action. The price for the better action is a reduction in dynamic stability. Choose your poison...I guess😉.
Very nice job...how was your success with floating or low-rise version?
I've been tinkering with an idea for a wood lipless crankbait for bass fishing over top of hydrilla pockets...that doesn't sink.
Good...the Flea is a floater and I use it around submerged structure. This way, when I hit something I can just stop and let it float off and away...saves a lot of lures.
Sweet builds. I've been messing around with lipless cranks lately. It has been a struggle. Some swim, most don't. I haven't tried moving the weight toward the top, but will do so after watching your video. Keep the fantastic content coming! And I'd still love to see you tackle a surf darter plug.
Thank you, I'll put Surf Darter on the list.
I have been watching from the NW now for a while hoping the whole time you would do something Herring like . I do a lot of beach fishing for Salmon . Do you have bait fish resembling this ?
You should watch part 1 and 2 of this build. This lure is very similar to a herring.
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How about making a Chippewa old bait my friend
Th Chippewa is on my list...its an interesting old bait. Thanks.
Hi I stumbled upon this video. I was wondering what length screw eyes do you use? I bought a pack of 10mm screw eyes and not sure how well they will hold. I did try to pull them on my bass scale and I pulled around 6 lbs without issue. I think the glue and uv resin coats add to the strength. What are your thoughts?
The glue is absolutely essential. I try not to use anything shorter than 16mm, of course, the lure size might limit that...
Thanks for comment...don't forget to subscribe😁
more ideas👍 thank you real cool lures. where do you put the weight in the flea? im interested to make it😁
I did a video on how put the rattle in the Flea you should check it out.
czcams.com/video/BOQUeixZMkA/video.html
@@EngineeredAngler thanks 🙏
Great job bud I was just wondering how to weight those little ones and I wonder if you can pass me the formula to know how much weight to put according with size of the lure thanks,..
It is completely dependent on the density of the material and how fast you want it to sink...check out my other design build videos for how I do it.
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Why the weight must be above the center line instead of under that line?
I've made a couple last year with lead on the bottom part of the head and they work very well
Yes me too...I have put the weight low and forward on the lure and had good success but, the action quality is less predictable, with some lure not working at all. This has been my biggest frustration with lipless cranks, there are a huge variety of sizes and shapes that work but, somehow I have a talent for finding the combination that won't work. With this arrangement I have a really high degree of confidence that the lure will be a good one.
@@EngineeredAngler thank you very much for the explaination! Greetings from Italy!
Appreciate all the excellent content and expect I’ll be reviewing these videos over and over until I understand what the heck you’re talking about fully.
Looking for some help understanding how you calculated the weighting, I’ve been just drilling, pouring, testing etc and it s not ideal. I’d love to be more calculated but you lost me on the explanation during this video. Any tips/resources I could use?
I actually explain things a bit more thoroughly in other videos. Check out my other design build videos, I think you'll get more out of them. Cheers.
@@EngineeredAngler I’m on it and been binge watching your channel today (finally back to the office and not a lot of work to do). Wishing you lots of success with the channel and I am sure it will come, keep at it.
Very informative!
I'm trying to make a lipless crank to fish as deep as possible, mostly vertical.
How does weight dictate the lures length, if it all? I needat least 1.5 oz of weight - and suggestions on length?
The size of the lure is going to have to be big enough to get that much lead in it . I recommend you use a dense wood if you're making it out of wood. If you plan to just jig it vertically, the length is not going to make a big difference. I assume you're trying to get it to sink as fast as possible. So you should keep it as small as possible and follow the proportions I used...as close as possible. Good luck.
@@EngineeredAngler thanks for the response
Yes - I'd like the lure to get down as fast as possible. It does thus make sense to limit the overall size of the lure (so long as it's large enough to hold the weights, like you describe above). I wasn't sure whether the weight:length impacted (significantly) the wobble.
I'm struggling to understand what causes this lure to wobble/shimmy. Same with blade baits...I cannot put my finger on the physics of the system.
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What are the guiding principles to this lures action? Does center of gravity v. Center of resistance play a role (great vid btw)? Is there turbulent and lift forces at work as the lure/blade is pulled through the water?
There are so many variables that I have been hesitant to do a video with what would have to be a lecture. But, I will do a video very soon with some basics of the dynamics controlling crankbait action. Stay tuned.
@@EngineeredAngler that will be a good vid! Today I did some reading regarding vortices, hydrofoils, Bernouli's Equation, Reynolds Numbers, etc. Read a few abstracts, much of it was over my head for sure. The take home message from said reading echoes your view - there are so many variables and principles at play. People have careers devoted to understand fluid mechanics. I now understand how misguided my questions are.
Que pintura usas para darle ese efecto comado ???? gracias
Que es comado? 🤔
Is this the formula you use to get the wood to were it will suspend: (wood profile/gravity)-wood profile - hardware
Yes, that will get you very close, depending on the accuracy of the Specific Gravity, but it usually takes a small amount of additional weight.
@@EngineeredAngler Great thanks for this! For a future content idea it would be great to see you dive into the science of the top water crawler.
Im just wondering since im new to building crankbaits, should'nt the weight be below the centerline of the lure? I believe it might flip over if the weight is too high up. Im quite possibly wrong and just trying to learn😊
Yes try to keep the weight low but as forward as possible.
Ese valor 0,37 que sería la densidad de esa madera ??? gracias
Si, 0.371g/ml, es una madera bien liviano
How to measure the density of wood when you don't know what kind of wood is it to add a weight to make an lure
I explain the process in most of my lure builds, watch one of the build in this playlist.
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@@EngineeredAngler Try this oneczcams.com/video/Ui08G7PB2Aw/video.html
Try this one czcams.com/video/Ui08G7PB2Aw/video.html
De que tabla puedo sacar el valos exacto de la densidad ??? yo estoy usando Chopo o Alamo son los dos nombres que le dan aca en Argentina, porque busco en internet pero me dice aproximadamente 0,450 gr/ml pero no es exacto, saludos
Es mejor calcular la densidad uno mismo. Cortar un pedacito de la madera, mide y calcule el volume. Pesalo y devide el peso por el volume. g/ml. Suerte...
@@EngineeredAngler gracias
Can u make a video about how to apply holographic foil on lures... Sry my english is not good but need help
Sure...I will put it on my list. Thank you.
Don't even use those calculations I make the lure and you feel the lower you don't you know it in your head so you just carve it you carve what you feel and you don't have to put weights in it you put your hooks on it put them in the right spot bingo you don't even need the weights I've been doing them that way for 40 years and they've been good lures
I hope this is satire
Very complete video sir! You asked for suggestions... what about a long casting Tarpon lure? Would be curious to see what you come up with!
I have made a few designs work pretty decent in my shop. If you have a moment, check them out on instagram roggies_rigs 🤙 Once again, great vid and build sir!