Honda Africa Twin CRF1000L VS Kawasaki KLR650
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Love my KLR, faults and all.
Yes sir, me too. I couldn't agree more. Thank you for your feedback and sorry for the delay, not sure how I missed this comment.
Dale
my 08 klr650 has 30,000 miles. other than tires, brakes, oil and filter changes and one clutch cable my bike has been as reliable as a hammer! still running original chain and sprockets which show no signs of a change any time soon due to regular maintenance. I bought it used with 4500 miles and has been the best 4000 bucks I ever spent in my life, Just saying!
Oh make no mistake, I know exactly what you are saying, I loved mine as well and to this day I miss it, so if you ever have the chance and you think you want to trade it in, DONT do it, Keep it and just buy the other bike. I only sold mine, because a really good friend of mine needed one and so I let him buy it, knowing he needed it. It later burned in a house fire and it no more.
But I do miss that bike.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment and keep us posted on your bike, I never get tired of hearing how well they keep doing.
Have a blessed week my friend
Dale
I hope you are still enjoying your KLR, they are an awesome bike.
Dale
New Subscriber, The first thing you got right is the audio lol most vloggers have the music so loud it drowns out the narration.
Thank you for the new sub my friend it means a lot to us and it is appreciated. thank you for that, Thanks on the audio my friend audio is a constant battle on moto vlogging, so thank you for that compliment as well. I try to have fun and this was actually a fun video for us. Thanks again my friend and have a blessed week my friend.
If the KLR had a 6th gear, it would be perfect.
I agree, the extra gear is needed on both the KLR and the DRZ. I am not sure why neither one of them don't have it. Thank you so much for watching and commenting I appreciate you and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
Heartland Dual Sport been watching your videos for some time now. I used to own a KLR but sold it out of stupidity. Now that I'm looking to buy another bike I've been considering getting a new KLR, or something that'll do better on the freeway. My other choices are the AT, or the V-strom 1000. Your video is actually the first KLR vs. AT comparison I've seen on youtube. Thanks for the video
Thank you very much for watching and commenting. I truly appreciate you. If it helps at all, the wind is always blowing here, Today I did about 250 miles mostly highway and some interstate and averaged speeds around 60 and up to 80 miles per hours, the Africa Twin does a much better job on the highway, the weight, the horse power and the 6th gear really help it maintain highway speeds with no problem. I do not have access to the -Strom or I would get you a better answer on that bike. I will see if I can find a person I know who can tell me a good answer for you. I do have a buddy who has the Yamaha Tenere, in fact a couple of buddies and they both appear to be extremely happy with those bikes as well. I think all three are very similar.
I have a friend who bought a Triumph XCX 800 today, he is suppose to have picked it up today, so I hope to have a video by fall, a good comparison of both it and the Africa Twin.
Thanks again for watching and commenting and I hope you have a blessed week.
I've been using a 16T front sprocket this season after 5yrs with the 15T. It's made a significant difference for HWY riding, feels like a 6th gear. I'd highly suggest it. I switch back to 15T if I am going back to a dedicated tough off road ride. I switch my tires to knobbies when off road anyways so adding 15 min to switch sprockets over isn't a big deal.
But the KLR probably would not pull it.
I had a KLR but sold it for a 2014 vstrom 1000 which I’ve ridden quite a bit. In fact a couple of months ago rode it to my friends place in Oklahoma. 700 mile days? No problem. He is correct about the wind. Kicked my butt on the vstrom but unless you want to ride a lead sled (I’ll stop riding before that) winds are something to deal with.
I rode my Friends African Twin while there (along with his 685 KLR ) and for me, I’ll take my Vstrom and a Klr650 or DR650SE for the win. The AT is just too heavy (as is the vstrom) for off road adventures in my book. And I’m 6 ft 6 and too close to 300 lbs.
Great video!
Hello from a fellow Okie. Checkin' out getting the Africa Twin myself. You do a good job on your clogs. Thumbs up and I'll be subing.
Oh sweet, thank you so much y friend, sorry for the delay in response, I don't think I am getting my notifications correctly his week for some reason,.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week.
Excellent, factual information! Thanks for going into the details!
Thank you Matt, I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment, I hope you have a blessed week.
Dale
Well done ! The best part about the Africa Twin is that it's a Honda !
Yes sir I agree, and That is a very good point I actually should have mentioned that I meant to. Thank you sir and have a blessed week my friend.
Great video! Like your style! Subbed just from watching this vid.
I bought a KLR650 New Edition (2014.5) and I love it. I was raised riding high-performance litre bikes since I was 12 - but the KLR has been a really fun change for me... Plus it feels more comfortable to me off road than the heavier GS and Tiger models I've used on long DS trips in the past... I think now I need to try the the Twin, tho ; ) Cool machine!
Oh yeah, the KLR is a great bike, I really liked mine and had a lot of fun with it. I have DRZ still, I will use for single track and true offload stiff and I absolutely love the AT for the longer trips, Sorry for the delay, rode a hair over 400 miles today and just now getting back. The more I ride this bike the more I love it, Just over 2000 miles on her now and she really does a great job. Haven't had her on amy difficult dirt yet, but I will will soon.
Thank you so much for the sub, I appreciate you watching and commenting as well. Thank you so much and may you have a blessed week my friend.
Thanks for the comparison video! I agree with everything you said. I put 300 miles on my KLR this last weekend thinking about the africa twin the majority of the time trying to decide if it would be worth twice the price of the KLR and I think it is !!!! If I do get an Africa twin in my garage it will probably be sharing it with the KLR. I enjoy riding motorcycles! No matter what kind of road, weather or bike manufacturer as long as it is reliable.Again, a big thanks, it was great, and I will be watching.
Thank you very much for watching and commenting Jerry. I still have the DRZ in my garage as well. Funny thing is my buddy I work with bought my KLR and it is back in my garage, I put a lowering link on it today for his son. Yes sir, they are both great bikes. I will say this, if you end up with a A.T. in your garage, you will love it too. It is a great bike and the more I ride mine, the more I love it. Thank you so much for watching and I hope you have a blessed week my friend. Keep me posted if you end up getting one. Again, thanks and have a blessed week.
Great vid guys, this is the first vid I have seen as a head to head with the KLR and AT, thanks for doing it. I have the KLR and was thinking about the AT in Jan next year but have decided to go a little lighter as I come from enduro back ground. Am looking at the new CRF Rally that is due here in Aus in Feb. If you get a chance to look at it I would love to hear your review. Keep up the great work...Cheers!
+vercos007 oh man. The new bike should be the bomb. I have been tossing the idea of trading my DRZ for one as wel. It sure looks sweet and I am sure a guy would be happy with it as well. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
New subscriber. Looking to get the KLR next spring as my first bike. I'm seeing a lot of great things about it and can't wait to find out for myself.
Oh sweet, thank you very much for the sub my friend, sorry for the delay in replying, been a busy week at work, You will love your new bike, they make a very good solid all around bike, I still miss mine from time to time, I still have some how to videos, on the KLR i did and still don't have them uploaded, always running behind.
Again, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
Oh darn! I thought it was going to be a throw down all out Tug-O-War tractor pull. Made popcorn and everything. hahaha Well stated and informative.
teehee, now that would have made for a fun video hehehe, thank you for watching and commenting my friend, I appreciate you and I hope you have a blessed week my friend. Thanks again, I appreciate you.
Looking forward to the 2018 Adventure Sports edition of the AT. I think it will solve some of those issues you had with it. I just bought a small Kawasaki Versys 300 to get me by until I can get the AT AS. Thanks for the vid.
Oh man, I was so wanting to get one of those 300's how is it, I bet its the bomb. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed and merry Christmas my friend. Thanks again.
Great comparison. I chose my dr for the unbelievable price at the time. And it was a great bike to get into the dual sport scene
Yes sir, The DR is another great bike for the money. I have seen that bike do some amazing things in the hands of skills drivers, it wont leave you a foot either. Thank you so much for watching and commenting I appreciate you and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
A video well done, Sir. Subbed for the quality and relevance of your videos. I have an ‘06 KLR650 which I use as my daily ride and set up for paved backroad touring most of the time .... off-road only to connect the paved roads. Best thing about my KLR is that in 14k miles of touring and despite the usual problems and fixes on the road, it always got me home. ‘Never had to call AAA. I also have a ‘06 VTX1300C which will be sold or traded in this spring to be replaced with lighter-weight DS, mostly for off-road touring. It’ll be a long and hard decision but I am thinking of (maybe, maybe, maybe) replacing the KLR with the AT (as my road bike) hence my interest in this video. BTW, I noticed the OKC road signs. We are relocating to NW OKC this summer. It’ll be an honor to meet and ride with you one day. Best always! Raymond
Oh wow, well, I can tell you if you do decide to get an AT, it is a great choice, I am very happy with that bike. I love it. I will also say, you ar right about the KLR, it is a great bike as well, and to be honest I think I was more willing to take the KLR in rougher areas, simply because, it was easy to fix and cheap to fix had I messed something up, so there is that. in a perfect world, I would ride the AT long distances to get to spots I could really have fun on the OLE DRZ. but that a is a pipe dream and obviously cant do both as well as I sold th DRZ this past summer anyhow.
How cool is that, I am in south OKC, so when ever you get here, Hollar we an meet up.
Thanks for the Sub, Sorry I am being lazy and didn't switch accts to reply, I have been working on this channel I am replying from for a while now and doing a lot more off bike stuff. but still nature and out door.
Thanks again for the sub and I hope you have a blessed weekend. Be sure to holler when you get moved here.
PS, thanks for the kind words my friend.
Dale
Thank you so much my friend. We truly appreaciate you and I hope you are still riding as well.
Dale
Excellent video!
Thank you. I’m excited to see the new KLR. I think that will be a fun bike with the new upgrades they are doing for it.
Very Cool And Well Done Dale!
Thank you sir, I appreciate you and I hope you have a blessed week my friend. Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate you.
Nice Dale. Lots of info there for people. Sounds like both get the job done but but like a new truck, you can pay for a higher end model with more power and options. If they were the same price it would be no contest but the klr price point keeps it viable just like the price point of the twin beats out others in the class. Nicely done. I think we will see alot of AT's on the road soon. :)
Yes sir, the KLR is an awesome adventure bike and with its price point, it will be for many more years to come. The bike is bullet proof and will last forever as well if a guy changes the oil, they are truly great bikes. Thank you so much for watching and commenting my friend. I appreciate you and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
The difference in cost is the biggest factor for me. I love the KLR and immediately felt comfortable on it during my test ride. While I haven't ridden the Africa Twin, based on what I'm seeing on paper I don't know if it is really worth double the cost of the KLR. That being said, my perception may change once I get on one and actually try it out. Great comparison!!!
Thank you for watching and commenting my friend. I agree, the KLR is a great bike and the budget friendliness of the bike makes is a gem in its own right. I do stand by the last statement, Both days, the day I brought my KLR home and the Day I brought The Africa Twin home, were both happy days. I do know just like everything, everyone is different and the Africa Twin is not a bike for everyone, But I do believe a guy looking for a dual sport would be happy with either one of these in the garage. Different strong points for both. Thanks again for watching and commenting my friend. I hope you have a blessed week. Fun times ahead my friend.
Nice job, HDS! Well... if the KLR650 is in the model lineup for 2017, that will make 30 years. Which I'm sure it will be, it has had a very long run, and it should get updated. I've always liked the KLR650. The Africa Twin is going to be a very good model for Honda , hope they keep it in the lineup for a very long time, as well. Thanks for sharing. Be safe, my friend.
Yes sir, the KLR has stood the test of time that it for sure. It is a great bike and I don't picture them not having it. I hope to see it many more years to come as well. I agree, I would like to see Honda keep the AT for many more years as well. Thank you so much for watching and Commenting my friend. I hope you have a blessed week, and thanks again for watching and commenting it is appreciated.
Good comparison. Thank you. I love crf's. I would jump on the Africa twin if the price wasn't so steep, but I'll give it a couple of years and then try to pick up one. For now, I'm enjoying my Honda NC 700X and CRF 250L.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting. Yes sir, the CRF's are awesome bikes. Goodness, well you have two awesome bikes already then, that is awesome. One of my best friends has the CRF 250L it is a great bike. I have been watching the NC700 for a while now, is yours standard or auto tranny?
Again, thank you so much for watching and commenting and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
My NC is a standard......love the shifting. I would not want anything else. Thanks again for your videos.
Sherwood Williams I agree, I just was thinking it was the first one with the DCT clutch tranny, so I thought I would ask which one you had. Yes sir I agrees, I like shifting and playing on mine as well.
Yes sir, thank you as well. I appreciate you commenting and watching.
KLR 650 is a riders bike. I own many bikes, and one I will jump on without question to ride across country is the KLR 650. I won't even say that about my Harley's (retourqe everything after starter bolt rattled loose into grass one ride).
Ha. I had a Harley for a short time.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed weekend.
Dale.
Thanks for the video. Still trying to decide whether to add the klr to the stable along with my Bandit 1250s or sell the bandit and get the Africa Twin....leaning towards the KLR because I love my Bandit, but that Honda is sweet.
I will say this, the KLR is a great bike and half the cost of the twin, It will do almost anything you throw at it and it Half the cost, hehehe.
I can also say if you get the Africa Twin, you will love it. I love mine and I saved my DRZ for the more dirt bike trails I do occasionally. But depending on what you plan to do with it, the KLR will do almost everything the AT will. At I think will make a better long road bike and then still do dirt once you get there, the KLR can still go as far just may take a little longer, Both are light enough to pick up if you ride solo and drop it, but like everything in life pros and cons to both.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting and If I can answer any specific question feel free to hit me up, I don't mind t all.
Thanks again and have a blessed week and good luck on your decision. both are great bikes and will be a good one to have
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Thank you so very much, I appreciate you and I hope you have a blessed week. Thanks again.
I like the looking at the Africa Twin, if only there was a Honda dealer that allows us to ride in our area. Subbed you as well good sir!
I don't know how far away you are for sure, but I am 90% sure if you go to the Dealer in Shawnee and Ask for Randy, he may let you but I am not sure call him an ask. Thank you for watching and I hope you have a blessed week my friend. Thanks for the Sub as well. I truly appreciate it.
No problem. I have been out to Shawnee several times and they never have one gassed or the battery installed. It seems to be a common trait with Honda.
Randy Floyd is the sales manager out there, I am 90% sure he still has the red one, Call out there and Ask him if you can test ride it. He is a good guy, He may well let you. Wont hurt to ask.
+Heartland Dual Sport never does. I'll see what he says.
give me the klr carburetor tor over sophisticated fuel injected anyday, its easy to fix and most mechs in any country can solve any problems, klr is lighter , i ride off road so any weight saving is good,no computer hi tech systems on klr , just plain jane easy to fix bike, less things in the chain line to go wrong.
also the term adventure bike can be 80cc postal bike to what ever, you have to make the bike and change it to the riding you want to do.
I like the african twin its a great bike but ill keep my 2015 klr, thx for sharing
Oh you are very welcome my friend, and again, I tried to be as diplomatic as possible, it is hard to impair these two bikes, they are in two different categories. I was asked by some of my active subscribers to do a comparison since I have own both, the people asking were specific, so I tried to answer their questions, but bottom line, they are both great bikes with some of the same general purposes for each, to go off and ride and have fun, and as long a s a guy is doing that, it don't matter what he is on from the 250L, DRZ, KLR or CRF1000L, They are all fun bikes with pros and cons, and Like I said, I was happy the day I brought both home. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week.
God bless : )
Is fixing a carb a common thing on a KLR? I've never had to fix a carb on my 29 year old XL600VH Transalp and it's been everywhere. [I know the Transalp wasn't popular in the USA so just if you don't know it, it's basically a slightly better in every way KLR made by Honda released
in 1987]
As for EFI, its about the least likely thing to break on a bike, there is a reason why every mission critical modern engine uses fuel injection and not a carb.
There are plenty of things on any bike that you can't fix while out riding.
If you blow a clutch up while our riding you aren't going to fix it because you simply wont have the parts on hand along with a full refil of oil.
I am deathly afraid of a computer run off-road moto. Take your KLR carb apart once and you'll understand how it works and how it might go wrong. Do that with you EFI, with your laptop in a room with internet access, and even then good luck. Oh, and fall on a slight downhill slope and try and pick up that Africa Twin. I ride solo, way up in the mountains in NM. Gen one KLR for me forever!
You know everyone says that, carb can be fixed by in any third world country mechanic. I just want to know how many who comment are actually traveling to different countries. I bet most don't even put over 3000 miles per year. I rather have fuel injected bike that doesn't break
There's a reason the Usmc and usaf used the klr
+ConditionRed yes sir. They are hard to beat. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week.
ConditionRed yes lowest bidders. It works well. It's just right. Not like the 250's that once were scout bikes.
Then why spend millions for an f22?
Nice comparison bro.
Thank you very much my friend. I appreciate you watching and commenting. Thank you so much and I hope you have a blessed week.
I bought my 2018 klr (camo version) with 200 miles off the showroom floor (it was a demo bike for customers to ride) anyways, I took it home for 5k out the door, taxes included. but deep down, my dream bike is the Africa twin, don't tell anyone =P
Your secret is safe with us my friend. I completely understand and for the money, you do have one of the best bike ever made, plenty of power to dow what you want and still be able to go anywhere and do almost anything anyone else can on their bikes. To me, the KLR is still one of the bets bikes ever. Do yourself a favor, if you do ever get to the point your going to get the AT, Keep your KLR if you can. no reason not to have two bikes and I promise you , you wont regret it. I still kick myself for selling my KLR. I sold it to my buddy who bought it for his son, I wasn't riding it much and it made sense, but from time to time, i just wish I had the ole KLR in the garage, just to run to the store and grab something quick or take it on an old back road. Fun bike. Thanks again for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
Dale
Thank you for sharing your story with us, I hope you are still having fun with your KLR. we have another one now as well and I absolutely love it. Thanks again and have a blessed week.
Dale
You get what you pay for! I don't need the 'best'. I'm happy with my low cost, used 2008 KLR.
Nothing wrong with that, I loved my KLR as well.
Thank you and have a blessed and happy new year.
dale
I just finished filming on a wr250r and I was amazed at the difference between the dr650
That wr is still on my list of bikes to own. I love the looks of it. I have not rodent he DR650, but I have some friends who have them and they love them as well. That is one of the great things about this, there is so many dual sports to choose from and if a guy has one and will get out and go ride, there is not funner bike than the dual sport in my opinion. Thank you so much for watching and commenting my friend. I truly appreciate you, and I hope you have a blessed week.
Nice comparison. I really enjoy the twisties on the KLR. Is the AT easy to flip around in the twisties
+Ride AMAP (As Much As Possible) I have not had it on any good twisties yet. But so far it does just fine on everything she has seen so far. I picture she will do great. Won't carve them up like an R6 but I bet she will be just as fun. Thank you for watching and commenting. I truly appreciate you.
I had that SV and I have just as much on the KLR as I did the SV. Now I'm no knee dragger though. It really surprised me how road capable the KLR is
Yes sir, I agree, the KLR is an amazing bike and you can't beat the price. I would have kept mine if I couldn't get what I wanted out of it. It is a great bike and the parts are super cheap if anything need replaced as well Thank you for watching and commenting, I appreciate you my friend.
hopefully one when I have a I'll be able to buy a motorcycle
+Brian Fisher I hope so too buddy. Thank you for watching and commenting and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
They are both motorcycles. And that sums up this comparison. Thanks for watching.
Thank you , I so agree. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Sorry for the delay, comment was lost somehow. Thanks again.
Dale
What bike would you put between the KLR650 and the Himalayan today (2019)? I mean, cheaper than the KLR and better than the Himalayan, same class. Thanks for the video.
Oh man, I don't know, cheaper good ride, maybe the DRZ-400 and or the Honda CRF 250. Both good bikes. I have had the DRZ and ridden Franks Honda. Like them both and both very similar, the Fuel injection on the Honda, makes it more dependable if that is something you need. The carb motor of the DRZ makes it cheaper to work on so pros and cons to both. DRZ has a hairs breath more power. Thanks for the question and I hope you have a blessed wek.
Dale.
I still dont have a good answer for that, I appreciate you asking and I hope you have a blessed weekend.
Dale
@@Heartlanddualsport I'm at 30,000 km with my Himalayan and thinking about changing it around 60-80K kms, will look into what you suggested before, I missed that comment at the time 😂
Following CZcams comments still not great.
Enjoy your ride
Would you recommend a pre-'00 Klr as a first bike? I have always loved how they look and the price is excellent. My father finally decided that I would be responsible enough to get myself a bike (so long as I buy it myself haha!) When I drive I tend to mosey around so I think this would be an excellent choice as my friend has a '16 crf250L and I would like a more touring style bike with the ability to follow him off-road. ~Josh
+Josh Lawler (Coser2-wtn) I would. I have a series of videos for beginners and if you have time to watch any of hem. I am actually teaching my cousin how to ride. They are a good bike. Have enough power for more touring and what not but not so much you will loop it out. Well not easy to do anyhow. Great bike that is well built and like you say very affordable. You can still take it on some trails with you buddy who has the 250. Check out the kiamichi trail videos. 2 KLRs went on that trip.
I hope this helps. Thanks for watching and commenting and keep me posted on what you end up doing. Have a blessed week my friend.
I am actually watching that series right now. Thank you for the quick response and I hope you enjoy the beautiful weekend.
+Josh Lawler (Coser2-wtn) oh sweet. It is a pretty good series. I would still suggest getting professional training but the videos are a great place to start. Thanks again my friend and have a blessed weekend.
Amazing voice!!!!!!
Thank you very much. I appreciate the kind words. I Hope that you have a blessed week my friend.
Have you tried taking the rubber off of your foot pegs? You know that 84 650cc Africa Twin engine is the same one they used in our Hawk GT! So really I have an Africa Twin too, haha! Great comparison!
Oh wow, I didn't know that, You are very up on your honda bikes your young lady, That is impressive. hehehehe, I know you can all the rubber out, but I am comparing it to the Triumph XCX which I think is one of the bikes this bike competes with and they come with actual offload foot pegs, I am sure we will see some on a show and tell monday or maybe even on the new "Planning an Epic Adventure" playlist series. I think I may have just foreshadowed a new play list coming out. I appreciate you watching and commenting. I hope you have a blessed week young lady. Angie and I really enjoyed you and Jay's last video you posted on FB. Fun video young lady. Keep up the awesome work. Tell Jay we said Hello..
+Heartland Dual Sport I really want to know more about this epic adventure, do you have a time frame nailed down yet?
+Hawk Girl (Misty Varner) Lol, thanks tell Angie we said hello too! I will be posting a full review on those glasses we filmed that Myrtle Beach video with soon! Glad y'all enjoyed it! Lol!!!
Yes mam, Time frame is roughly one year away form right now. hehe. I will give little hints about it as the time draws near. It is going to be epic though. Send me a PM if you truly want to know more. :)
heheh that will be fun. Thank you and I will let her know y'all said hello. Gonna be a great year. Thanks for being awesome.
I bet that AT will handle more then you think. I always say ride within your limits. good comparison good sir!
I think you are right when I get it all decked out for off road protection and tires, I will run her through the aces and see what I can tear up hehehe.
Thank you so much and I hope you have a blessed weekend. my friend.
That's too nice of a bike to tear up! Hahaha, protection is always good.
Nice job and i can talk from experiance KLR and crosswind is bad. Over 100kmh (60 mph) you are riding in the ditch cause the road is no good
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, we love both of these bikes, I wish I had more room to store all the toys, and a budget for them all. Thanks again for your input it is greatly appreciated and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
Review a xr 650l vs xr 650 r please?
I would love to, If I can get my hands on one, I definitely will do that. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
Dale
I wouldnt lower the klr. I lowered mine 1.5 inches and quickly put it back to stock. The problem is that it changes the geometry of the rear shock linkage and it makes the bike bottom out to easily when off road.
Yes sir, I would agree with that, I wouldn't do it for me either, I have since sold this bike to my buddy and his sone is almost 16, he is not quite tall enough for it, so we lowered it for him and when he gets a little taller he will want it raised back up. He isn't going to do a lot of offload with it he has a dirt bike so this is more for dirt roads, back roads etc for him.. I agree though it does change the bike lowering. Thank you and i hop you have a blessed week my friend.
jeff ferguson seat concepts makes a great seat that lowers seat by almost 2 inches
The two are not in the same class, meaningless comparison.
hahahaha, , I was asked to do the video, I never said these two bikes are in the same class, i was asked to do a comparison, so that is what spurred this video..
I do enjoy reading all the comments though. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week.
I thought so at first but then watching it I realized it was helping me decide which class to go with.
I am debating between these two bikes. This is exactly what I wanted to see.
Price was the factor when I bought my KLR. In the area I live, I can not see me not having an adventure/street legal dirt bike in the garage. My plan is to keep the KLR and get a sport touring bike for riding highway. Thanks for the video!
I agree completely, The KLR is an awesome bike, and I honestly did not care one way or another if mine sold. I was perfectly happy with it in the garage. I had a lot of fun on mine and I imagine the young man who got it, will have many years of fun on it as well. It is simply hard to beat the price point of that bike considering what all it will do. Thank you for watching and have a blessed week my friend.
Klr has good torque. I hate the brakes on klr. If you going to be on paved road >75% just get AT. I would hate to drop AT though with klr I could care less
The brakes on the 2022 model are better than the past, I am pleased with the bike overall. Thank you for taking the time to comment and sorry for the delay, not sure how I missed this comment.
dale
Just curious did you look at a bmw 800 or triumph tiger 800? All about the same $$ as the AT. All comparable power. All great adv bikes. But Honda network is much more extensive if you ever need work done.
Yes I did. Both are great bikes. In fact if you get board and watch my video the 5 things I hate about the Africa all come standard on the tiger xcx.
I really like both of the bikes. But as you mentioned in the question. Service is cheaper on the Honda and there is Honda dealers all over the world. The two other bikes don’t have strong networks out west. Triumph for sure and I believe BMW can’t say for sure on BMW make it hard to even change you oil. Ducati and some of the others make it impossible to work on your bike and Tiger is starting to do same. Etc. So that and I love to tinker on my bike and he dealer availability if ever needed was how I made my final choice on this bike. Thanks for taking the time and commenting. It is greatly appreciated. I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
I think they are 2 different bikes. I would compare the AT to the vstrom more with better off road. I will be impressed if the AT can do off road what the KLR can. Of course the weight will be a huge difference. On road and 2 up the KLR will never beat the AT. I don't think you will ever beat the KLR for a true 50/50 but only time will tell. I look forward to seeing what that thing can do in the dirt. LONG LIVE THE KLR haha
Oh buddy, I couldn't agree with you more or maybe event he Yamaha Tenere, But I was asked since I have had both. I agree the KLR is going to be hard to beat, I have seen it do and go through more than I thought it would.
Give me time and I will let you know about the Africa Twin. I am going to be riding it through some of the same areas I have riden the DRZ and the KLR, so after I get it geared up for dirt I will be able to give a better answer on that. Yes sir, not a thing in the world wrong with the KLR, I tried to convey that in the video as well, it will do anything you ask it to and is a proven bike.
Thank you for watching and commenting my friend, I appreciate you taking the time to watch and commenting. thank you very much my friend. I hope you have a blessed week and again I agree.. Thank you
+Heartland Dual Sport let me know how that AT does at getting the front tire off the ground in the dirt. I'm in the process of putting in a jet kit on the klr so she will dance a little better
I will, It will be a little while, I have to save up to buy dirt tires, and the crash bars and all the stuff so when i fall over it don't cost me more when i do lay her over. Yes sir, I am still not too sure I wont put a different carb on the drz for just that. keep me posted my friend, I bet it is awesome when you get it put on and have her running like crazy.
Sold the KLR, bought an Africa Twin DCT, and never looked back!
They are both fun bikes. I love them both in their own right. Thanks and have a blessed weekend my friend.
Dale.
sold the harley brought a klr wont go back
Couldn't imagine taking anything heavier than my KLR offroad
Yeah, I know right a lot of guys take those huge GS all over the place as well. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week.
Dale
I was expecting to see some action with both bikes, i think you should change the name of the post or maybe write an article instead of reading it while you drive for 20 minutes
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. I was asked by some of my active subscribers to make a comparison type video since I used to own a KLR and now I have the Africa Twin. Although both bikes are different and in a different class, they are both great bikes and very fun. it is hard to do an action video with a bike you no longer own, I do think it is a fun idea though. May be I can find a buddy of mine who has one and I can add some more action to it. Thank you and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
Your review missed the point. The twin is not an adventure bike. It's a road bike that can do "some" off-road. The KLR rides multiple riders fine but it's designed for both on and off road aka not a passenger bike. 100lbs of additional bike is not something to gloss over when the KLR is already heavy for dirt. The cost of a bike plays heavily into the likelihood of damaging a bike. If you go off road your going to go down and may cause some serious damage, repair and replacement is a huge factor. Wheel size and other items mentioned in video as favorable to the Twin are only favorable on road, nothing about that great horsepower will do anything for you off road (single cylinder KLR could probably pull a car uphill) and frankly unless your doing 80+ not going to have significant impact on road. What your really saying is you prefer a road bike that can handle a flat fire road and your video kinda points to that. That's great and I am glad you found your bike but it's really not what the KLR is about.
Wow, you have made some great points, I actually loved both bikes for different reasons,. When I made this video, I did it because I had several people ask me to do the video based on my knowledge of both bikes, so I did the video then. Since I have had the AT much longer now, I would have different things to say about it. I will say just like i said in the original bike, I don't think it would matter which bike you have, you would more than likely love them, either one of them, because they are both great bikes. The passenger is a huge one for me because I try to spend as much time with my wife as I can,, but if you have riden much off road, you know as well as I do, that you are not going to be doing a lot of serious offloading with a passenger, or I can say, I wont be because it would not work for us. Thank you so much for taking the time to have such a wonderful replay. I truly appreciate seeing other peoples perspective and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
Thanks again
Dale
good comparison but hey, those bikes are not really in same class :) much better would be comparing AT to F800GS for instance.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, I could agree with you more I was asked to do this video since I had both bikes at the time of this video, and I do plan to do some as you have mentioned, just working on the timing of it all. thanks again and have a blessed week my friend.
thanks, you too. Subscribed and waiting for more. BTW since you have mentioned crappy footpegs on both bikes, what is your take on AT foot pegs alu-cast mounts? I heard about incidents of breaking them off when hit on stones etc. Not good design if this is the case don't you think?
you have buy a crash bar for the bike because you will bust the plate that protects the engine
+Brian Fisher I'm not sure I understand the question. But crash protection does help protect your engine and components. Thank you for watching and commenting I appreciate you.
The more people that bag on Klr s the more I love mine. 40k miles later and its still my go to bike. I have no interest in a dull Africa Queen, over priced gs or pos ktm.
I know what you mean my friend, it is a great bike. I loved mine and it was a blast to have, easy to work on, parts are cheap if and when you do need them and very proven and reliable bike. I wouldn't have sold my KLR, except for a friend of mine had a boy who was needing a bike to go on some rides with us and his dad. I sold it to him and it is still running like a champ. He has laid it over several time and again, still running like a champ.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I hope you and your family have a blessed and happy new year.
Dale
Thank you sir, I hope you have a blessed weekend.
Dale
KTM 1090 Adventure R is the best motorcycle on the planet for what I want and need. Much better for two up than the KLR, and much better in the dirt than the Africa Twin.
If it had been in my budget, I may own one, but It wasn't and I am super happy for you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I hope you have a blessed week.
Sorry for the delay, I am running so far behind on everything. Thanks again.
Heck yeah! I am not one who asked about the comparison, , , but I was thinking it. LOL My big complaint about the AT, PRICE! hahahaha! But, like they say, you get what you pay for. ( Kinda )
Thank you sir, I am glad you like it. Fun stuff. Thank you very much for watching and commenting. I truly appetite you and I hope you have a blessed week.
Likewise!
Klr650...top heavy..very top heavy
Yes sir, it is, thank you for taking the time to watch our video as well as comment, thanks again and have a blessed week.
description says CRF100L. It's a CRF1000. (1000 and no 'L'.)
Oh man, I am sorry for the typos, I will change it later when I have time. thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
That Africa Twin is a cool bike but the thing that keeps me leaning toward the KLR is all the electronic BS on the Africa. ABS and traction control have no place on a motorcycle that is made for going offroad in my opinion. I'd say if you need such things then you probably lack the skills to be riding offroad. Again just my personal opinion. Cool bike though. If they ever make a super basic Africa Twin without all that BS I'll probably buy one
I agree, it is the world we live it, if they don't put it on the bike and a guy falls over and smashes his foot then they sue the makers, I agree, and your right the more junk the more the chances of them breaking down and leaving a guy stranded, the KLR is a good solid bike, i do wish it was fuel injected not that I had any issues with it running, MY DRZ on the other hand it would occasionally not start and was a pain, the KLR always fired right us and was ready to go, to be honest, the KLR was as funner bike to ride I loved the AT, but the KLR was a funner bike overall.
Thanks for taking the time to with and comment and I Hope you have a blessed week.
Dale
Honda has been making cars with all the same electronics in them and they go hundreds of thousands of miles reliably.
@@Heartlanddualsport new klr is fuel injected
So we are going to compare the Africa Twin to a KLR 650?
I will take the Honda all the way. The Africa Twin is the finest machine I have ever ridden.
What good can I say about the KLR 650. Not sure I can think of anything.
There is no way to compare the two.
While we are at it how about we compare a Ferrari F40 to Ford Model A.
Now if I have to choose 1 bike to do an around the world tour and I only have 6000 dollars to buy the bike, what choice do I have, One and only one, the KLR 650.
I wouldn’t trade my KLR 650 for anything when the price tag comes into play. The KLR 650 in my view after 30 years on the market is flat out the best bike ever made. I have owned over 25 bikes in the past 50 years and no other bike will ever do what my KLR 650 has done for what I paid for it.
I love the Africa twin, it would be my first choice today, that is if someone else is paying for it.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I was asked to compact them since I had previously owned a KLR. BUt like you summed it up. KLR is a hard bike to beat in so many ways.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed weekend.
Dale.
What is the point of comparing a motorcycle with twice the hp, twicw as good suspension, and twice the cost with the legendary archaic designed KLR ? Who knows but the KLR wins out anyway.
hahah, I like the way you think, and yes sir, the KLR wins, That is what I am riding,. When I originally made this video quite sometime back, I had a few request to compare them, so I did. Yes sir, I agree, The KLR won in the end. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment and know it is appreciated, we are trying to make one of the best Moto Camping and adventure travels channels on youtube and feedback will help us in the end. Another way to think about it, The KLR was one of the first Mid Sized adventure motorcycles and it will always be the base lone for many to compare to. Because in the end it rocks.
Thanks again and have a blessed week.
Dale
Klr is the past and future
To bad Kaw DC'd it in the 2019 line up. If Bonds and Suzuki follow suit, the big Thumper's are a thing of the past. :-(
agreed. Thank you for your feedback, sorry for the delay.
on the Honda African twin
+Brian Fisher yes sir. Thank you.
my klr 650 only did 30 horses on the dino and that pissed me off because 30 horsepower on a 650cc engine is pathetic because the ktm 500exc which is a 500cc engine creates 55 horsepower on the dino
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Thank you and have a blessed weekend.
Dale
@@Heartlanddualsport absalutely
You guys understand that Google is just a search engine right? That information didn't come from Google, it came from an article Google found for you... probably Motorcycle.com
Oh man, thank you so much for watching and commenting, i truly appreciate that. Yeah, A lot of it came from both owners manuals I have on both bikes and actual ownership as well, but it was easier to say google search,.
But again thank you for watching and commenting and I hope you have a blessed week.
That spendy AT....
heheh I agree, Fun times ahead my friend. Thank you for watching and commenting and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
Comparing a now $15,000+ bike with a $6,499 bike.....seriously?
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. It truly helps this little channel out. Thank you and have a blessed week.
Dale.
The klr is one of the many motorcycles that I have owned and found to be very disappointing. Comparing it to the AT is apples and oranges. They Are not in the same class
Thank you very much. Since I have owned both, and numerous people have asked me about them. I was specifically asked by a few viewers to make a comparison video, since a lot of people who own the KLR are looking at the AT as a possible next bike. I agree, they are completely different. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment., I hope you have a blessed week.
twin afrika cost double klr
jorec vv triple
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Thank you and have a blessed weekend.
Dale
@@Heartlanddualsport
4-5 years later 😭
Honda Africa Twin is over priced
I will agree with what the Africa Twin cost, it should come with the 12 volt adapter that is pre wired from the factory, I believe it should some with the crash bars that Honda Makes, as well as some actual offload foot pegs, and it should have more protection.
Considering the Triumph XCX comes with said items above for the same price, there is no reason why Honda should not be coming from the factory with these items and then I would think it is more in line with the competition. With that said, Honda has a 998 cc engine, and we all know the majority of the cost of the bike is the engine cost.
I do agree, it should either come with said items form the factory and or be cheaper. I knew when I ordered mine, prior to delivery, I would not get to haggle on the pricing and that is a hickey I knew I would take. I will say this there are a few in the showroom at some dealers now and they are not pre sold, so a guy may be able to get a better buy come January when they are trying to clear the showroom for 2017 models, so I think we could see the price start to come down. Allegedly the DCT model will be a grand more next year, not sure they will do that since they are not selling as quickly as hoped. I do love mine and I am super happy with it, But I wont argue your comment above, they should adjust it accordingly.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting and I hope you have a blessed week.
Are the rubber pads on the AT removable like they were on the old AT and TA? on the old ones you can remove the rubber pads to reveal steel pegs with teeth.
Yes you can remove the rubber from the foot pegs,. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment and I hope you have a blessed week.
pathetic comparison
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Thank you and have a blessed weekend.
Dale