How the Medellin Cartel worked | Roger Reaves and Lex Fridman
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Roger Reaves is one of the most prolific drug smugglers in history.
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Lex the Russian..."Where's the betrayal!?"
Let me understand.... ( 15 seconds later ) ... what you think about Stalin?
Which one of us is an informant
One day I would like to talk about my former job as proudly as this old man.
If I were him I wouldn't be proud, he destroyed the lives of ten of thousands of people with drug smuggling. He's a common criminal...
@@kingofcelts Before a flame about "was he guilty or not" starts in this thread -- how does the ironic smiley look like?
@@kingofcelts prescription drugs destroy more lives
@@hustleup3840 And almost no one was sent to jail.
@@siyabongamngomezulu9743 🎯
Honesty is an effective strategy for long term dealings. It has nothing to do with crime
“I was afraid when I landed in the United States” 🤣🤣
Feels like rappers will sample this podcast
🤣🤣👏👏 yes "lil" somebody surely will at some point!
Lol why would the sample this is they can get some better
Only a backstabber would ask that so many questions on betrayal.
Lol
This whole interview is absolutely fascinating.. and the love story at the end ties it all up wonderfully...Truly brilliant 👏
The reason for no betrayal is easy... One is the amount of money is enough to go around... Two is that once you find others in the business(even if competition) that are loyal, you don't get rid of them. Because someone you don't know will fill the void... Three is that you dont fix it if it ain't broke
Betrayal would be bad business cmon lex
Keep it coming sir.
This is just so interesting.
So professional
Roger is the most interessting guy on earth
I think it’s fear that makes betrayal so rare for them. 1 fuck up & that’s their life as well as their families
I don't disagree, but I don't agree either - I have no idea. I just wanted to note that most people, most of the time are motivated by love. It can be very hard to identify it sometimes, especially as an outsider.
@@vhaarr bro they're f**king cartel I don't think they dismember teenagers out of love lol...
They didn't betray anyone because they know the threat is real
So the greed never rised above the fear?
@@arthurmorgan4460 Life or getting chopped up amongst known killers. Yes.
Not everyone is a psychopath. They depended on each other more than anything. You need friends to have your back from real enemies. You do not get that successful by stabbing your friends in the back.
“I was afraid when I landed in the United States” - Roger Reaves -
Why the strikeout through his name?
He was scared because whenever he got caught in third world countries there was a better chance at bribing you're way out where as USA has strict laws against what this guy was doing
@@stephenmcmonagle6946 wow we have find our captain obivious sheesh..
This has been one of my favorite podcasts. Fascinating
500 Kilos = Miami Yacht Party 24-7 etc 🍾😂🍹
from under bridge to the country club people say the Colombians are rolling again
Love from Chicago lex
yet some of the mafia guys on you tube have said the first people to betray everyone with the police (snitching) were the bosses who didnt want to do time in prison against all their underlings.
Yeah think again. What you're refering to are 3rd and perhaps 2nd lineage bosses. This conversation is about bosses who were also original founders. There's a huge difference. It's probably related to the phenomenon that richness/wealth only survives max 3 generations normally.
@@vhaarr just go listen to the mafia guys on you tube talk about how their bosses would snitch them out to get less jail time. Its easy to find.
@@nyranstanton203 You still didn't get the rebuttal point he was making did you?🤦
@@vivek27789 LEx said why are they always honorable and dont rip each other off or snitch. Many arent. Many do rip each other off, thats why the only ones left to tell the tales are the ones that didnt do that, not many are left alive. Have you notiiced most of the mafia guys are like , all my friends are dead, or this guy and that guy is dead. Those are the ones that generally try to rip each other off and theres LOTS of em lol. The only ones left to tell the tales are the guys that stayed mostly or tried to stay mostly the straight and narrow. Think of all the mafia guys on you tube alive, now think of all the ones that are dead......more are dead.
It's an interesting question to ask how do men maintain a certain level of respect for each other when greed is forever looming in the background..
It's my understanding that triggered trauma, hunger, the cold and fear are what breed monsters of Men..
So perhaps the environment in which these men were making millions of dollars provided a false sense of security... For a time anyways.
No. We've all got a monstrous side any explanation that posits hardship as a cause is an excuse. I mean you can make a good case that simply having an average life then being tempted with great wealth or power is enough for some people to choose evil. As we all see with many leaders in western countries today. Not to mention Lex just had a North Korean escapee on his show. She didn't turn into a monster.
That’s an interesting take that I can get behind.
It wasn't a false sense of security. It was an actual sense of security, grounded in reality and fabricated rationally. They were, in fact, secure. For a time. They should've been secure until they retired of old age and the company ("cartel") lived on - none of this should've ever been illegal.
betrayal and greed will cost you a trip to hell. if you're ever seen cartel torture and execution videos, you know what I'm talking about. they go fucking medieval down there, those people are animals.
@@nickpaul3623 I used "hell" as just a way of saying they will torture and kill you in the most brutal ways you can't possibly imagine. I didn't mean the afterlife hell.
tHIS MAN HELPED DESTROY LIVES
Lex is apparently unable to grasp that these men had self respect, and came from a proud tradition where a man was expected to keep his word, no matter what business they were in.
“ I was afraid when I landed in the US” 😂
Not complex at all in a environment of scarcity greed is natural, in a environment of abundance cooperation is key.
Lex all caught up in the government perspective 😂 you talking to a G
The devil can’t believe everyone isn’t back stabbing each other over money he can’t fathom the idea
Greed/betrayal starts if you do it for the money, Roger likely did it mostly for fun/adrenaline, so no greed there ;-)
Maybe that didn't betray each other cause of how much dirt they had on each other
Yeah but u get immunity if u decide to cooperate against big guys
What a life . .
I remember sitting on uncle Pablo's lap at his son's birthday
Care to elaborate?
Would he bounce on his knees ?
@A Z 😂😂😂😂
@A Z LOL
Dude sounds like Jim Marrs. RiP
Betrayal occurs when those under the boss don’t get reimbursed properly
An interesting portrait of a jolly sociopath who has no qualms about the suffering he helped perpetuate.
“Whaachoo you talk’n bout Willis?”-Arnold Drummond
Sincerely,
Studio 54
Wiki is your friend.
It's simple they had more money than they knew what to do with
50k a joint idk....
Ask one question at a time and then listen to the answer, Lex.
When the speaker stops, follow up with another.
This will yield much better and more watchable results than asking 5 questions at once and not really paying attention to your interview subject.....
Why would you betray your partners and risk ruining the gravy train? Not worth it when the dollars are that large.
The Ochoa’s and Pablo were family and no one in the cartel is aloud to do drugs. It is only business. Most cartels run this way.
He absolutely cannot understand how much money these people were collecting.
Dude they made so much money it just didn't matter ,no need for the partners to betray each other ,when there each making ten million a day or whatever
They had so much money but couldn't stop to live a normal life with their money. Think about it. It was about power not money and they all felt powerful together
Is the interviewer slightly drunk or high or something?
Also showing a bit of his character by thinking it’s odd that people don’t betray each other. Interesting wording of the questions.
Betrayal is bad for business including themselves. Like asking why isn't there a ton of betrayal at Apple. Idk, because everyone is stinking rich and no one is trying to rick that boat? The real treasury comes from business competitors and governments who work with the cartel. Also, not to mention that people get slaughtered for making honest mistakes so betrayal is last thing on your mind when you're just worried about double checking your math 🤣
Jajajaja todo torpe
See this guy how he tbinks about betrayel same time peoole like Occoa, Escobar were people of integrity.
PLENTY OF MONEY TO GO AROUND?? THEY WORKED TOGETHER TO SHIP AS MUCH AND AS FAST AS POSSIBLE $$$$ THE EXTREME VIOLENCE WAS A BIG PROBLEM?? NORMAN CAY WAS A SPOTLIGHT FOR TO LONG‽ COMBINATION IN PANAMA TOO?? WHAT A RUN $$$
Interviewer is the traitor my money says !
Looks shifty as well
I used to put in work with Pablo in 2004. We had a falling out though.
Why is Lex forever dressed like Men In Black?
Talk about the CIA Cartel...
When you're making $60 million per DAY, there's PLENTY of money to go around.
Who the hell is this guy and why should we believe anything coming out of his mouth?
Lex is boring 😑