Beechcraft Baron - Cost Of Ownership and Maintenance
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Back with Dan and his Beechcraft Baron twin engine airplane, which he has owned and flown for 12 years. In this interview video, Dan gives us some estimates on what it cost to own and fly a twin engine aircraft like the D55 Beechcraft Baron. You get an idea of the airplane’s operational cost, airplane fuel consumption, insurance and hangar cost.
Also Dan is selling his Beechrcraft Baron. For more details about the aircraft please call Dan @ 404 626 9300 or see the link below.
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Love this senior gent! He sounds more sensible than I'll ever be. May he have many happy & constructive years of retirement ahead of him.
This is what I love about the pilot community he even put his phone number on a video to talk to people about his flying experience. I may not have been a pilot very long as I am a student pilot but this is the best community truly
I'm not even a pilot and this guy sold me on owning this one.
I ran the numbers again and get about $26k a year including $15 and hour for each engine towards an engine rebuild/etc at 2000 hours time. (That's flying about 100 hours a year.) Keep in mind some cities cost less or more than $500 a month for rent. As an owner you can do a lot of basic maintenance and we did when we owned a Piper Lance for ten years. Another way to make it more affordable is to have one or more partners. Another way is to be able to write off expenses for use. Many small businesses could use a General Aviation Aircraft to make them much more efficient in there jobs. Light twins can be reasonable for purchase because most owners don't want the second engine for maintenance costs and added fuel consumption. Some owners want a second engine if they intend to fly a lot at night, over a lot of water, and do flying in poor weather on a regular basis. I flew the 55 for about 100 hours and I would describe it as sweet flying. It has a very handsome sounding exhaust note as it flys over your head about 1000 feet up. (Fraternally, Mark S. A Professional Pilot)
Having flown a BE-55E for 27 years this owner nailed the maintenance and operating costs of the Baron. Good progressive maintenance from a trusted A&P is key to safety and peace of mind. On another note, this Baron owner/pilot was smart enough to know when to step away from flying. In my 40+ years of flying the pilots I've respected the most knew when stop flying. And I did the same as this owner/pilot.
I don’t know about any of his other costs but 500 bucks a month to store that plane is crazy. Our local airport charges 30 bucks a month for the same plane.🤡
Mike, you deserve a commission if this video produces a buyer!
Haha thanks. But no, I'm just glad to help.
I love the story telling, and the context. Enjoy your retirement Captain! Good on you to listen to your wife. Yet Another great mojogr🏍p video!
Excellent briefing sir!
In my next life I want to be Juan Browne.
Hey Mike thanks for the wonderful broadcast I appreciate it!
Funny thing, every search I had you already covered in your video library:). Great content keep it up!
Hi There !
What a Nice Chat !
Awesome Follow Up and Stories !
Thanks a Lot Captain !
Tahanks a Lot Mike !
Best Regards !
Congratulations on your retirement, Dan, thanks for sharing your experience.
Excellent aircraft! Thanks, Mike!
Great video. Love the details.
Knowledgeable, honest, and intelligent, you sir are a trifecta of the model pilot👍👍
My favourite aircraft since my dad bought me a metal model of one as a kid. I am a private pilot now and an aircraft engineer - would love even an OLD olne of these to restore and fly!
Excellent video. Really enjoyed this older gentleman describing his aircraft, operational costs, and some of his flights in it. You can bet this will be a very solid and dependable aircraft for who ever ends up buying it.
Mike, you're doing a great service to the aviation community finding interesting people who are willing to share their journey to the sky. In my mind your unselfish dedication to showcase others makes you a worthy ambassador "CLEAR PROP.....!"
Keep up the great work
I like that format even though it's technically an advertising. Well done.
Nice clean D55! thanks for sharing your video Sir, I really enjoyed it. Would love to buy it from you
I sure wish I was a little closer to making a purchase because that is my first choice. I can tell by your presentation Dan that it’s been well taken care of and that means everything to me. I’m hoping to be ready to buy in about 6 months. If it’s still available I’ll come take a look at it. Bill
Excellent content.
Great video mike on the gent selling his Beechcraft Baron 👍
Thank you for posting! I really enjoy your video
Great video. Way to look out for your fellow aviators!
just the mention of a hangar makes this video EDUCATIONAL, thumbs up from my end
Thanks for the information.
I've now realized that if someone GAVE me this aircraft I couldn't afford it :-(
I can't afford a Cessna 150 even if it was given to me...🤣
@@ErlankBru what do you mean? Are you going to let it sit? And not use it for a business? There’s lots of ways to make money with an aircraft.
@@andrewcohee1699 Can you talk about some of those ways?
@@donatta1857 has my sarcasm become so lethal it can’t even be detected anymore?
Hats off! Great video.
What a great man . Thank you for this
I very nice talk. I enjoyed it a lot. Very enriching. You are really "a cowboy of the air"....My sincere respect. ..:)
Soooo...... for this plane, just the Hangar costs, Insurance, and maintenance fees will be around $1000 monthly. Taking trips in itself, for example 1 per month, burning 24 gallons @ 185 knots, ranging on average 200 mile trip would be $168. Total would be $1336 per year; for a grand total of $13,336 per year. Definitely gives the monetary perspective to think about when owning an aircraft. Very informative video. Thank you Mojo!!!
This video is so helpful!!!!!!
Good video captain!
Good luck with your sale Dan!
Great video. Super informative for someone like me who's considering buying a plane.
Nice overview
These videos are awesome. I’m only thirteen but I get to dream about owning airplanes.
3WHISKEY2life I’m 15 years old and I also want to fly a baron or a cirrus or a Cessna one day
DUDE I WANT TO DO THE SAME THING!!!! I really want to be a railroad engineer, but I can still own a plane, like no matter what you have you can still have a car, but i will have a car AND a plane.
Outstanding 🛩️🌠
Yeah, I'd love a Baron tbh. Not too big, not too small. I'll have to start saving my pennies.
If you want to own an airplane someday, you will need to make a lot of money. It is a wealthy person's hobby. I speak from experience, I had to give up flying because it was just too expensive.
Dad you will be around for a long time. GOD Bless you always 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks, Mike, for the video.
Mojo you are the man 😉
"No damage history at all" as we are looking at damage to the front of the plane. Lol...
That 3 day trip is cut down to 6 hours at a cost of about $3000 to $4000 per month real money. So sad that aviation is still only for the rich. I mean this is a great plane and the gentlemen seems like a truly amazing guy, but when a 50 year old plane still costs $30K to $50K each year of ownership, just to own, the general public will never be able to get into it.
Better stick with a Varieze... can't beat 5 GPH cruising at 155 KTAS!
I also was wondering about the damage to the nose. I'm not sure that will buff out. And Mr. Sharrock is right, even an airplane this old has a price tag that is out of reach for the majority of people. When I was young, many average people could enjoy aviation, including myself. Now, sadly, it is only for the wealthy.
Hey, not all things are equal. There are some who can afford it, and there are others who can't. Flying isn't meant for everyone.
The wear on the nose is not considered damage as it doesn’t affect the integrity of the aircraft. It’s purely cosmetic.
Because it's not for the general public. You talking like planes are like cars. If everybody could afford this it would be tragic.
Nice video, I'm just starting to learn to fly, I just love this guy, he is the kind of patient I love to treat since I work at Emory health care and Piedmont health care. Senior are outstanding folks. I know he sold the Baron. My God be with him
God bless him. Thank you for making this video
My annual Income 500$ (student) but Dreaming to own one of those aircrafts one day......
To Change My life I need to Study More hard Get a good scholarship to move 1st world country.....
Tx for Video..
Those kinds of video makes me motivated...
Fahim Akash you left off "Abandon morals and find a semi-legal method with which to exploit the working class for profit." After moving to the 1st world country.
@@EUC-lid what a looser. Your family must have disowned you that's why you lack basic morals of talking with someone. Pity.
Can you make basic aerobatics with this ? Is in utility category right? With how many passengers can you make a roll?
Great video, brother! Wish I had the money! 🤣
Thank you for everything
I want that 1969 BE-55 Baron and after the Christmas Season I'll be calling to get it off your hands so Dan can enjoy his retirement life with his bride.
Hey buddy, did you get it?
Did you buy it
I doubt it, another blow hard!
Really helpful information. Thanks for taking the time to present it. What is the contact information of your insurance company?
I usually fly my planes as high as they will go to discover the true service ceiling. Agree on having O2 on board, just in case. One of my Cherokees would do about 17K feet and I felt a certain need for supplemental oxygen.
Barrons are very comfortable planes, decent fuel burn for speed and quieter than an Apache.
When I started flying a 152 rented for $12.50/hour, wet. Annuals can be a horrible experience but nothing can ruin the joy of owning your own plane more than compliance with an AD.
Excellent moi!,🌠🛩️
RIP this great man a true gent.
Thanks!
What a likeable guy.
Dan, you are a great man! I wish you good luck with your selling and your future pension life! On the other hand, I want to wish your Baron to get into good hands and fly for many more years, because it doesn't want to retire on a pension))!
P.S. Mike, it is a very good aircraft! May be you gonna buy it))?
Yes, the comes a time to hang up the headset. Hopefully the new owner will get as much usefulness and enjoyment out of it as you have. I had an economy aircraft, 1959 Cessna 150. Five gallons an hour and at the time a $600 annual :).
pmh1nic sometimes it feels like you are pissing into the wind , but I love my 150 .
Hurricane Hugo!!! I live n SC and remember that one when I was a boy.
Wholesome and intelligent old man
I'm buying it
Great video. Much respect to Dan. God bless him.
The rough part for me is, in my country, every dollar mentioned here is multiplied by 2.7169 bucks. lol
Not impossible by any means, but it's gonna take a little more out of me to have this goal ticked off.
Ahhh, fond memories of our BE58 VH-ETV .......but we never had an autopilot, ex factory, in the 60s that worked. The Mitchell, as I recall, was useless
shitski... just what I need... 800 miles per tank... working on it.. thanks for sharing Mike
it's on do not disturb.. I will write down your number and text.. mucho bettero for me, sir
if I see a name I answer.. I hardly ever get phone calls so... it's on do not disturb 😴
Do you fly 737 or 727 dc9 md80
Mike Any idea..i mean did you get a ball park figure from him how much he would put it up for?
I think it's currently listed for $150k
The Baron is in my option one of the most beautiful GA aircraft. But ouch I sure couldn't afford that fuel burn.
I've got a Cherokee 235 drinking 14/hour and it's frustrating 24 didn't sound so bad considering speed carrying capacity and 2nd engine. I need me one for those diamond diesels!
I want an experimental. The performance of the certified stuff just isn't there.
Same. I love this plane almost more than the SR22
190 knots makes 24 gph less painful.
I stress over my LSA at 18 liters /hour ....
So we have an approximately 50 year-old aircraft in need of another owner. From the look of things it may need a some paint and likely a lot of replacement of old wiring? What is the average age of the American aircraft fleet?
Lordy, it seems like the age of American general aviation fleet is like 60 yrs old. Did they not produce any small planes after 1972?
About 1984 the whole general aviation industry died due to excessive lawsuits. It didn’t come back until the late 90s, but most pilots can’t afford any plane built in the 90s or 2000s.
What makes people go for the double prop rather than the single?
Excellent decision in calling it a day before age-related degraded flying skills caught up with you.
WOW what a guy!!! I hope that bird finds a new home
I was thinking getting a Duke what you think
He said it has a clean car fax history report...(as he said no damage has ever been reported)....must be a glare on the nose.
Heavy rain and maybe seconds of light hail can cause the nose rash, but we're looking at an airplane over 50 years old and maybe the original paint job. To Mark below, I believe if you want something, go get it. Don't wine about it. Many men like to talk about flying, in front of their girl friends and some actually just do it. I paid for my private license in high school and continuied at college with the rest of my ratings. You can buy a descent Cessna 172 for around 50k. Organize a partnership of 2-4 pilots. It's an excellent plane to get your private and instrument licenses in . Then once complete with these ratings get a Cessna 182 etc. You can actually do a lot of the maintenance on a small plane. Change the tires, brakes, batteries, oil, filter, etc to save costs. You can do owner assisted annuals. Fuel costs are very low now and there will be some great buys on singles due to the Covid Pandemic. (My insurance guy believes this.) Naples, Florida and other cities have flying clubs but I think the best way to learn is to buy a Cessna 172 and share it. Heck, a group of ten can buy it or even a high school can be the owner. From Mark S. in Naples Prof. pilot.
is it safe to cross country?
Very sincere person. Otherwise he would have had the nose painted. It is very interesting for me to hear Alpha, Charley, Romeo, Whisky, etc. How can I learn the remaining Alphabets?
about 2000$ per month. Wow thats more expensive than i expected.
Neat guy....
According to this pilots estimates it costs $25,448.00 per year with fuel costs for 100hrs, divide that into hourly and this plane is costing him: $254.48 per operating hour. Thank you Jesus for Rotax engines haha! Newer planes cost more, but make up for it in maintenance and fuel savings.
I don’t know what newer planes you’re talking about. If you go buy a brand new G58 Baron, the only model that’s still being produced, it still has the same IO-520 engines, burning about the same amount of fuel. Only difference is a new Baron will set you back $1.5M, and the insurance will be sky high because you’re insuring such a huge asset. Maintenance costs will be not be much less than a well-maintained legacy airplane. Really the only reasons to buy a new airplane are if you’re a charter operator and want something great looking that’s going to pay for itself by being flown a heck of a lot, or if you just have money to burn and want a status symbol.
@@singleproppilot The DA42NG for example will also cruise at 170-180 KTAS, and while it does have less payload than the Baron it only uses 13-16 gph JET A combined (that alone will save you 50-75 bucks per hour or even more), i think the oil change intervalls are also longer and oil burn should be less of an issue.
Also, if you have a newish plane you know it probably hasnt been abused, maintenance and repair cost should be lower and easier to predict (especially if you get a warranty). You also get the latest avionics of course, and a G1000 equipped Baron will set you back quite some cash too.
I'm curious. Did you ever sell it?
I clicked the link in the description and I didn't have it so yes?
So he's had it for 12 years, but flew it in the remnants of Hurricane Hugo, which was almost 30 years ago? Not trying to troll, just confused.
Man I haven't thought about hurricane Hugo in forever
I had a B55 25 years ago. Flew between SFO and DEN. 15000 is fine with the little Barron.
what engines are on the barron
Depends on which model.
55, A55, B55: Continental IO-470 260HP
C55, D55, E55, 58, G58: Continental IO-520 285 HP
58TC and 58P: Continental TSIO-520 325 HP
56TC, A56TC: Lycoming TIO-541 380 HP
Some 55 and 58 Barons have been modified with the Colemill Foxstar STC which uses Continental IO-550s of 310 HP.
SIO>>>Excellent Sir.
What a nice guy. I hope he sold his plane to some one who will take good care of it....
Assuming you have no mortgage or monthly cap cost [paid cash for the plane] that's about $2,200 / mo and $140 / hr for routines. But what are the non-routine items; avionics, actuators, pumps, valves, etc. I see he needs some elbow grease on that tail cone and radome, or he could spend x5 and send them both to a shop. And of course you want yourself trained and keeping nav database as with anything else. The airplane doesn't cover ground fast enough for me at this cost. With his hours he'd have no trouble getting insured on an Aerostar and he could enjoy pressurization with a little more expensive annuals.
Pressurization and turbochargers (x2) are a BIG step up maintenance wise. Annuals would be much more than a little more expensive…
@@Kaktus965 $ = ? what's the driver of the expense? Do you have to send out pressure controllers and valves for testing with R&R $?
@gendaminoru3195 It's far more complicated than that. Longer wingspan requires a larger hangar. Many expensive parts (like the windshield) are pressure cycle-limited. And not cheap. Higher fuel burn due to turbos. MUCH higher engine overhaul cost due to turbos, wastegates, plumbing, etc. Anecdotaly, an owner who had both a 600 and a 601P said the 601P works out to around $100/hr MORE than the 600. And that was several years ago.
@@gendaminoru3195 .
main for sale, nice then I see 4 years ago. Amazing plane. I do plan on buying one. But need to make the hours my friend. I guess I also need Multi with 400+ hours for just Insurance. Well, I need to make a plan and work the plan.
Great job with videos. I would seriously consider this upgrade from my piper lance. Shoot me the sellers info and I will contact. Thanks!
Hey Stephen, Dan's contact is in the video description section.
Sold ?
So how much does 24 gallons cost?
Depends on where you are. Here at one airport 100 LL fuel cost almost $7 per gallon and at a different airport same fuel cost just a little over $4 per gallon
Insurance is $2500/year or $2500/month?
$2500/year
Mike loves his airplane but his wife more, Godspeed!
Are u a broker for aircraft just curious
No I'm not a broker. May be I should become one :)
What's that rash on the nose? Bird strike?
The hanger door hit it. LOL
He said no damage history. Sounds legit!
Bird strikes do more damage than a rash. That's from being a 60's era aircraft with what looks like original paint. Any paint after that amount of time is going to weather and chip from wind and the elements hitting it at cruising speed.
He said it has a clean car fax history report...(as he said no damage has ever been reported)....must be a glare on the nose.
Was thinking Cirrus but I think a B55 would be much better traveling machine.
I've found great used ones for around $100,000. The savings over a $500,000 used SR22 make up for the higher operating costs!
@@lizzsszzy7800 : And the savings are amortized over 20 years, yes?
My dream is to one day own my own Baron!! 15 hours in on earning my PPL currently!
I want to fly with this guy
No damage history or no history of the damage?
Las Vegas and cabelas is he in the firearms industry?
Bug repellent bracelets.
www.daily-tribune.com/stories/american-made-bartow-manufacturer-builds-4m-insect-repellent-business,18888