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Is there a trick to removing the port side manifold. I have all bolts off and it seems stuck in upper left corner
YOU DID IT...!!! You inspired me to dive in and find the problem with the tell tail on my MERC 250EFI. Get this, a pebble was small enough to get through the block side barb, but too big to get through the tail side exit barb. So every time I stuck a wire hanger up there to clear it, that was just pushing the pebble back into the block....lol
My outboard stopped peeing a few months ago. Noticed it after about a mile past the boat launch. Shut it off and trolled back to the dock fishing along the way. Once I got it home it was just an old torn apart impeller. Had an extra, replaced and good as new. Appreciate the video!
You good sir have earned a like and subscribe. I changed my impeller and thermostat, no joy. Watched this, took off the air box, went straight to my fuel cooler blew it out, eureka! It’s peeing now. Bless you, you saved me lots of $$$.
My father instilled in me at an early age to make sure the motor is "pissing" before we leave the dock. This lesson has saved me several times. Here in NC we have dirt dobbers that will quickly fill the hole and spoil your trip and has happen to me several times. A quick poke with a small round object and you're back in business. Tight lines and fair winds everyone.
Yep the gun stoppers.
A golf tee pushed in water jet port will stop those mud dobbers in between uses
What are dirt dobbers. Im from uk
@@KitsFishing some are like a wasp type that make nests out of nearby mud. And they love the ol outboard water outlet for making mud nests.
@@brianwideman2342 thankyou i understand
Thank you. Replaced my water pump impeller and still couldn't get a good pee stream. Watched your video and started tracing down the line and found the obstruction. Cleaned it out and works fine now.
Great video. Had same problem with my Johnson/Suzuki 4 stoke. Ended up being a thermostat that wasn’t opening all the way. It finally showed itself when it didn’t close.
Mud daubbers ( wasps ) use mud to build nests inside the pee lines here in Florida. I keep a wood dowel painted red with a small rag attached, remove before leaving the house. Also keep a 80# mono strip of line (10") to clean out the line.
Thanks- just needed a little clean out and we are now fishing! Saved the day!
Good timing with this video. I'm having exactly the same problem and will follow your example this weekend
Thank you
This gentlemen is why mechanics earn their money. I'm a retired Merchant Marine Engineer. When something breaks you've got to get it running, time is money. Troubleshooting is time and money. Good video as always.
Appreciate it, sir!
Unfortunately all to many people want something done right, but aren't willing, and occasionally aren't able to pay for an experienced tech or craftsman. It frustrates me to no end the extent that some folk would expect you to go and have no intentions of paying. Even if it's asking a long series of questions. Probing you for your knowledge. I am in the automotive industry and even full grown men will look at me and act clueless/helpless in hopes that my bag of goodwill is full.. lol
Like always great video, seeing your videos is always something new to me, the cooling system in outboards is way different than automotive cars, i dont have a boat yet but i wanna be prepared to try and save money when i can
My motor stopped pissing one time because the top fitting of my water tube had broken when I pulled my lower unit off so I could put a new water pump and impeller.... took me forever to figure it out. Needless to say I pulled the broken piece out and jb welded her back together lol. Still holds up to this day
Great stuff again! Love this channel; watch and review often. Thanks very much!
Glad you enjoy it!
Thank you we just followed your instruction on ourHonda 30hp pontoon motor. You saved our anniversary fishing trip.
Glad it helped
I’ve been learning tons of information from your channel. Thanks !!
Awesome, thank you!
one word. "brilliant" thx for your help. cleaned out all the tubing and its now working. thx again.
You're welcome!
I use a bike pump and insert an air nozzle into the tell tale and pump it... .. So far it has worked fine and no issues... If I have an issue with hose blockage I simply just change the hose... Why not have a filter service each year anyway... In saying all that I love these videos as they help me doing a lot of maintenance during the year and hopefully trouble free.
Had minimal discharge from my stbd 150 g2 Evinrude. Engine was running hot at nearly 200 deg. Took it for a simple freshwater flush and after a few seconds without water exiting it “popped” and water began to flow through.
Engine ran 60 degrees cooler 15 minutes later
FYI... my 1989 40 hp Mercury Force does not have a tell tail. I panicked the first time I fired it up, looking for the tell tail and did a little research and found out it does not have one. Great video!
Be on the look out for mud daubers! They love that opening. A piece of weed eater line will usually do the trick. Excellent info here, have never had to trace that far back!
Good instructional video. James
Thanks so much for this video. I have a Suzuki DF 150 that I ran up on a sand bad and had the same problem. Even though these 2 engines are a lot different it gave me the ideas I needed to find the clogged tube on my engine and sure enough it was clogged slam full of sand. We are now peeing good ! Thanks so much, very helpful and saved me who knows how much money.
I have a DF 90 that is half ass pissing but throws an overheat light above 4000rpm. Where in the system did you have the sand?
In a small rubber hose that runs around the outside perimeter of the engine; just keep following the proper Channels and pull stuff til you find it. I’m not particularly mechanically inclined and I was able to find it, I feel you’ll find it !
I once had mud dauber wasps fill the telltale hose with dirt. I've found a long thin ziptie works very well for probing the hose for obstructions. It has just the right amount of stiffness & flexibility & won't break off.
I just bought my first outboard and the pee hole didn't work, but it looked like there was glue in the hole. I figured since it had a water pressure gauge it somebody plugged it up, otherwise how would the gauge even read pressure? I was wrong because on the second test session all of a sudden whatever was in the pee hole blew out and I'm pretty sure it was a wasp like you said, because they do the same thing all over our backyard in the pool electrical systems and holes in our umbrella poles.
Thanks a bunch, for hands down, the best boat repair videos!
How about one on changing the hydraulic steering fluid? Is that even something I should worry about?
Not really. Unless the system gets full of water somehow, but that would be an extremely rare occasion! If you wanted to, you can undo the bleeders and push all the fluid out though, then refill it. czcams.com/video/tGMqQCBicxc/video.html
Thank you a lot. Very helpful and comprehensive.
I have no boat nor do I ever plan on owning a boat but I enjoy troubleshooting videos like this.
Super helpful thanks!
Took an old Waterpik for cleaning teeth . Attached to Tell Tale . Added vinegar , cleared clogged like a charm . Squeaky Clean…
I always carry fishing line wire because this problem has happened more than once to me. That wire is extremely flexible and can extend up the tubing several inches until you are obstructed by a T or a manifold. Never had to disassemble a manifold yet. But chunks of seaweed or grass are a popular maintenance headache.
Good video. Helped out a lot. 👍
Just took my boat out of hibernation. Changed the Thermostat, water pump and zincs on my Yam F150XB. Went to start it up with the muffs on and no peeing. Let it run for a minute and checked Temps no issues. Tried a couple more times and still no pee. Now I want to go back at it on Easter Sunday lol.
Great video and very informative thank you very much from Sydney Australia
Another very helpful video; Thank You! I share your videos with all the boat-folks I know. I'd love to see you hit the 100K !
Fingers crossed!
Great video. One thing I’d have to add is that not all motors have a tell tale.
Thanks Arron. Another for the when it happens file. Lol 😆. Great job. Keep em coming 😎👍🌴.
More to come!
GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS!!!
I appreciate that
Had the same thing happen on a Yamaha 150. Turned out to be a mostly decomposed lizard stuck in a strainer about a foot or so before the output. We guessed the lizard was in the garden hose when the customer tried to flush their engine.
I always tape the pee hole closed with scotch tape when in storage to keep the bugs out. I tape a reminder note to the ignition switch to remind myself to tear it off before staring. Scotch tape tears off easily without leaving marks.
Very helpful, thanks a bunch.
Thx for sharing! 👍🎣
This is just Awesome stuff 👏! Thank you for Sharing guys
Our pleasure!
Hooking the garden hose to the flusher then look for blockage helps save time locating blocks
If you've got the foot off spray garden hose up that copper water intake pipe, nozzle from the flusher usually works just fine
Careful using the stick, if you’re not careful it can break in the telltale hose. Don’t ask how I know 😬
So you are saying the tell tale gets Fuchs upped by using a stick. Interesting.
Justin, you know I had the same thought when I saw him do that. If you have nothing else and your stuck I guess but would rather not, there’s got to be something else to use. Lol
@@PFLEONARDI0906 precisely
I definitely got nervous seeing that twig being used. I’ve had this issue before and used a piece of bare wire and it worked perfectly. Saved my boating day!
That long metal wire that's in your control cables...
perfect size for the bong stem too
Thank you for the tip.
Great video love this content and very educational
Glad you enjoyed it
On my old Yamaha Had a few (just small enough) pieces of seagrass that made it through the screen that clogged at the tail, pulled the hose off and ran 60lb mono in the tail and push it clear.
I’ve used a bare wire to fix this issue. Luckily was a simple fix. Informative video. Thanks!
Excellent!
Thanks dude, this video was exactly what I was looking for 👍👍😊
Glad to hear it!
got into some mud one time and clogged up the system and over heated. I back-flushed the system through the tell tale with some pressurized water and that got the mud out.
Water hose used on tell tale cleared the blockage! Thanks!
Nice, that it was only the fuel cooler. I Kinda hoped you'd have to dig deeper, still I am happy for the engine, owner and you, so you did not need to open up the power head like I once had on my 15hp 2 stroke. It had more than 600 working hours as all of a sudden steam started to come out the indicator. I've shut down the ouboard immediately. Repair shop changed the impeller and removed the thermal switch on the powerhead. Of course it did nothing. I decided I wanted to save the good old two stroke and removed the powerhead. The problem was of course all sorts of sediments being deployed in the cooling water area at the bottom of the powerhead (of course all arround the cylinders too, but on a 2 stroke it's a piece of cake to clean the areas arround the cylinders, because there are no valves having to mess arround with), blocking the free exit of the cooling water. I had to use a small hammer and a 3mm steel wire at some points to literally blast out the sediments. Respect to the japanese as they've thought about this and placed 2 very convenient openings for the steel wire to reach all the (hidden area) inside with ease. Operation suceeded (thermal switch installed again (it had to be or else the engine was running too cold now as it had all the cooling water as if it was new) my friend whom I've sold the outboard has been running it for 5 years now and counting. If this happens again I will have the job done in less than 2 hours. Now I have a 40hp 2 stroke and for now no such problems.
Great sort vid on a common problem. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks! fixed mine right up!
Had my outlet closed once on mine... used 100 lb mono line to clear it. Maybe dirt maybe a bug nest... awesome video as usual, appreciate the knowledge!
thank you!
Thanks! I will try this on my 2017 Yamaha 50.
Informative, good job
Mud wasp or dirt daubers as we call them in Georgia, will pack dirt in the hole in the tale tale. Weed eater line usually works good for cleaning it out.
They get me every year. I use the tip of circuit tester
I got my small Yamaha 8HP not peeing (at all!) anymore whatever the RPM after the winter season (out of water of course! Also I'm in Lake region... unsalty). I warm up the engine a bit, then I injected anti-lime (3cl or 1oz) with a syringe directly from the small end, waited 5-10min, and started again the engine: full water pee pressure like I never saw it before!! Love that easy & cheap fix... makes your day.
Note: I also heared about injecting WD40 from the same small end... In the case of this big engine on the video, a bit of air pressure would have helped too.
what's the small end mean?
A few years ago my buddy and I went up to my girlfriends moms lake house on lake Winona in north eastern indiana. It's a pretty lake but really small for even my boat which is only 17.5 ft long it's a 1978 glastron ssv175 one of the super rare ones that they only made 150 of. By far out of over 50 boats that I have owned over the years. The 70s and 80s glastrons were legendary and the ssv hull design in my opinion is one of the best hull designs ever made. Alot of folks dont know that glastron was responsible for the very first fiberglass boats and they were extremely well built. Both my outboard ssv175 and my IO cv23HD had rock solid transoms and all of the wood that was used in the stringers and such despite being neglected and left outside in the Indiana elements for many years were still very solid. I did however have to redo the flooring and the interior on both boats has been completely customized and modernized. I also have a custom made roof so if necessary I can still cruise in the rain and camp in it as well. My point being the ssv175 had the original 78 mercury tower of power 115hp and it was one of the motors that used the same wiring found in airplanes that when exposed to gas and such the insulation would get rock hard and just crumble to the slightest touch. So I had to redo all of that then on the trip to lake Winona I figured out why they said that the way to stop from drowning in lake Winona was to just stand up because the lake is so shallow. The canal up to her house was rarely used and had lots of plants and fallen limbs and just was filthy and obviously it got sucked up in the water intake clogging it. And we just used some soldering wire to shove into the hose. Which worked. However I learned a very important lesson later. When the fuel was low we decided to trailer up and go to the station. I didnt have a gas can so I simply poured the oil mixture in the tank and added the correct amount of gas for the right ratio. I figured on the 5 miles back to the ramp the boat would be shaken enough as well as the filling of gas to mix the oil into the fuel. However after about ten minutes of running towing a tube with my girlfriend and her friend on it at around 4500rpm suddenly we heard a bang and the motor just stopped dead in its tracks. And after trying to start it I learned it had locked up completely. What's crazy is despite it locking up and having some metal shavings in the piston sleeve and on the spark plug. I added some lucas lubricant and mystery oil to each cylinder. Which freed it right up and after cleaning up the shavings the motor ran just as good as it always did and that cylinder was only five psi lower on compression than the other cylinders. That being said the boat now has a 150 5 year old evinrude and I will never go back to mercury again. My IO has a custom 454 olds with a Volvo out drive. But by far my favorite engine is my seven marine outboard on my tritoon. It smokes past everything and has been super reliable plus looks wise I think they make the best looking motors out there. Anyhow that's my two cents. Good luck with all that you do. Hopefully one day you tear into a seven marine engine and see how they are to service. I know that the cadillac engine in it is very unique and has more computers and doo dads and be bops then I've ever seen.
Caught a boat mechanic in a bad mood one day. He told me " A boat is a big hole to dump all your money in". Lots of patience required. Good video.
B.O.A.T.
Bust out another thousand!
I keep a piece of weed eater line in the boat for this make sure the diameter of the line will fit
Seems like some 80# or 100+# fishing line might work too
Nice work really liked this easy to follow video, thank you.
You are welcome!
Thank you for sharing !!!.
Welcome!
thank for the video
Nice one. Deadly vidz.....🤙🏿🙏🏿✌🏿
thank you. very helpful.
Great advice. Likely to save many a trip to the mechanic.
Weed eater string works like a charm. 😁
Another key tip if you think your impeller is bad:
Undo the hose flush port and start up the motor. If water comes shooting out at a good rate you can most likely call your impeller good.
Is this regarding muffs?
Yes, but you must check that your good flow is not because of excess hose water pressure on the muffs.... or hose connection for the motor.
So..... drum roll...... I have a plastic drum with water inside it..behind the boat trailer. I lower the motor into it....... start the motor and a few second later the 'tell-tale' (water pissing from the pipe) should start. If it is zero or just dribbles........ you have a problem. If it squirts out water reasonably fast and consistently, your system is going well as far as water cooling is concerned. Yes this is old fashioned........... but it is the same way in testing operation, as it should be working in actual use......
I own a 200 hp yamaha I fixed my plugged tell tale with a torch nozzle cleaner, they are very handy also the cleaning barbs are different diameter sizes
Great walk-through. Had no idea water cooled so much more than just cylinders in these big motors. Got an issue at the opposite end of the scale. Little biddy Johnson 3.5 hp kicker. No water out the telltale but there IS water coming out 4 holes on the trailing edge of the leg about halfway up the engine. Looks like water and exhaust come out this same area. This would seem to suggest the impeller is pushing water through the engine but I don't know if the telltale is up line or down line of these exhaust holes that are also shooting water...
Little motors like that don't have telltales, they have what you describe.
Good info... Now I just need a boat.
Thanks for sharing this video
Great video, thanks for sharing :)
Thanks for the visit
A piece of whipper snipper line is always kept in my boat for this reason.
After winterizing & flushing the motor I put black take over the pisser so insects don't mud it up. Huge help.
Tape?
Another great video 👍
Thanks for the visit
great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Yup.. Always check for water exiting the motor.. Even with Inboard diesels, you check there is water in the exhaust.
Great video and tutorial.
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice process troubleshooting the telltale and getting it working again.
Awsome video, just had a problem this past week you have not covered and its a good idea for you. I spun my prop out on the water. When should you change your prop hub for maintenance?
Ouch! That always sucks, there really isn't a time or hour period lol just look at it when doing gear lube and when it looks really bad and sloppy its getting close lol :)
My brothers old mercury blackmax seemed like it needed a new impeller every year but living in south florida it got alot use
Great video. What spray did you use to clean out that part?
another awesome vid
Weedeater trimmer line is good to clear out blockage if its not too far in.
Thanks!
Could you show more details on how to get to fuel cooler - please
Thanks. This was useful
You're welcome!
Nice video!
Paper clip in the end of the line usually does it for us. Usually crud sitting in end of the hose.
In Australia the first thing you look for is mud dauber wasps have built a nest in the tell tale tube.👍
Instead of a tell tale I had a water pressure gauge on my outboard. Hooked up the tell tale to a line running to the dash. Then able to constantly monitor the cooling system.
Taking the lower unit off and blowing out the hose with an air hose (120+ psi) clears most clogged really quick. I’ve had little sand particles and other random tiny objects (probably rubber from the impeller) eject from the system and cuts out a lot of trouble shooting the coolant lines.
I used to keep a piece of wire or line in the hole while the boat is stored at home. Now with a new boat I keep a full engine cover over the engine. You got to protect your pee hole! Bugs will build dust, dirt,etc... inside that hole sometimes enough to notice a difference in the stream within 2 days. Look at every hole of any kind you don't want a mud dobber filling in. They will do it in a shorter period of time than you think
Great video. Any recommendations if the water isn’t 100% consistent at idle? My engine stutters every 15-20 secs with constant steam
Iv never had a problem with my outboard but my friend has. He said he connected an airline to output pipe and blew it out back the way it came in. I like your fix much better
Grass trimmer string is good for cleaning the telltale and checking the hoses. Fairly stiff, but you don't typically have to worry about puncturing the hose. I started keeping a couple of feet onboard a few years ago when I fished shallow marshes a lot. It is available in at least two diameters, maybe more.
Ive used small mechanics wire to clean the speedo pickup for the drive
Excellent idea ! !
THANKS ! 😎👍
I was told pushing compressed air back up through the water stream outlet is a good technique. Thoughts?