In the wind id argue only pegging out the windward end and then putting the poles in. This keeps the fabric flat on the ground and safe from the wind until you are ready. Pegging out both ends results in what happened at the beginning of your video. I'd also add that the way ive been taught to remove the pole quickest and safest is to hold the end against your chest/stomach area and just pull the sleeves up until the pole is free. The opposite for initially threading the pole - feed the pole all way until it reaches the socket, then position the socket and pole so that it is pushing against the ground rathwr than to the side (can slip out then), then unravel the fabric and secure. Bit hard to explain by writing but its a good method.
I'd like to see that method. Yeah I'd agree re pegging front too. I've heard just back then poles them pull up to fix like I did with nammajt 2 last video or five.... what i find confusing is Hilleberg video and instructions say peg front out (unless I'm mistaken) and must admit it isn't ideal and bit fiddly. Great comment that's what we love here good helpful comments to live and learn by thanks (not quite get the tummy thing - and my way works reasonably well in dropping tent quickly and safely - but all ideas thoughts welcome and for a million percent you and other proper regular users will users will have more experience) which is why its great more experienced folks watch my videos
@@TonyHobbs i have found a video showcasing the methods perfectly: type this into youtube: HOW TO PITCH A TUNNEL TENT - Tips and tricks for using a tunnel tent. That is what the video is called. However when i type that into youtube it doesn't find it... Strange. Mehtamikko is his channels name
Thank you I looked at Saitaris but decided on this for Polar trips and folding this down and up for packing away but yours looks amazing. I'll hopefully get to snow one day no rush I'll take time and figure it out many thanks for lovely comment
You’ve already made it to Dartmoor in it! I’m just at the pitching stage and it is impressive that 1 person can put this up by themselves. Our geodesic DofE tents are really difficult to do by yourself. Possible but the students certainly can’t do it. Looking forward to seeing inside
Yes one person is fine with this In freezing snow storm two might be helpful lol but one can generally manage in most conditions. It's a beauty I looked at Saitaris and thankfully made correct decision with this for simplicity and space it seems Good luck with yours
Tony... as stated earlier on... the Keron 4GT is not Hilleberg's flagship by chance... it is by far the best you can get on the market. The Saitaris cannot compete with it as its porches are much smaller in terms of effectively usable space. Likewise, it is much easier to errect it, notably if to be managed without any helping hand. Best purchase you have ever made, I reckon.
I first looked at Saitaris then studied more and came to your conclusions esp if solo etc thanks for lovely reply I'm very pleased with it and for sure will enjoy it
I love your enthusiasm Tony! What are you going to do with all that space? Or dare we not ask? 😊. What a great project, and Lapland is a bit of a leap from Dartmoor. I'm hoping to do a similar trip but on snowshoes not skiing, as on skis I'm a liability to myself and anyone around me. I'll be using my red Akto for that. Have you seen Matti & Stina's CZcams channel? If not, I think you'll like it? Good luck!
Thanks Dom I'll see is a going lady polar bear 🐻❄️ 😆 wants some cuddles as the sheep 🐑 😄 getting a bit predictable now 😆 I've given a sub to matti so will watch one or two indeed I see one on ski's snow shoes that looks interesting. My concern is your thoughts 😆 but I'll try ski's and see how it goes. MSR were kind enough to send me snow shoes but so far no snow .... I did a livestream on here with Antonio of Always Forward channel I hope to meet him if he's available next April 2025 in abisko Sweden and one or two others have offered to allow me to join them but let's see and take it steady 😀 I'm in no rush and zero pressure if anything happens it does ... thanks for your continued support watching
Hello Tony. I haven't been commenting on your videos for a long time. This is surprising.....You in an even heavier tent then Nammatj 3GT??? But i have to say, that it looks amazing. two meters wide and five meters long..... holy s#*t, that's ten square metres, pitching area, 107 sq feet. Izzy.....Lizzy..... Do you have a new dog? (sorry it was a long time ago...) Good video Tony, thank you for the upload.
Yeah it's nammajt 3gt big brother 😆 I'll keep that but this is in different league 😆 hopefully get on skis and pull this in pulk one day Lizzy was my wife's but sadly her mental health was too much to live with so I had to let her go to her family unfortunately and had to keep lizzy as she was too much for my wife. Lizzy did a few trips last year with me then mum looked after over winter or big trips but simple easy ish trips lizzy should be ok on 😀 hope you're well
Tony Hobbs!!!! What are you like?!?!? My good friend, they have to be pegged how Hilleberg have designed and instructed for them to be pulled out. If it’s pulling in any direction other than directly away from the sidewalls, referencing the guylines, the. You will lose its cylindrical structural integrity. Like squeezing a can in so it’s folding in, once under pressure it will collapse. You she to truth that Hilleberg the world famous arguable best tent maker bar none, knows a bit better than you or I, and have already done the research, for which way to guy the tent out. Also, if it breaks and they hear you don’t follow instructions you may have a very hard time using the warranty/guarantee to replace it. Thoroughly enjoyed the vid. The usual Hobbs rebel! Hahahaha! Keep up the great work.
You referencing the guys on mid poles? Yeah I saw they say 90 degrees in side wind but don't say in rear wind so my way seems better lol for side wind repeg to 90 degrees. I'm the expert not Bo who's done it 50 years lol the guy knows nothing 😅 😉 is that what you mean though or am I wrong 🤔
Oh my, somebody has a Kerlon addiction. Are you still on Ron's Christmas card list? K4GT is bomber and as you said ridiculously massive. Now I understand your motivation to be able to sleep facing the open door. In the conditions this tent is built for, there might not be much of a view. Nuff said. Love my HBs. I don't want to send you down a rabbit hole but in the 90s HB sold a couple of models that were the precursor to the Keron, 2m wide, but shorter, that could fit 2 people. If memory serves me correctly the Stalon 2 was a modular tent allowing side sleeping to the door, and owners could zip in extras such as the GT vestibule. But it was about the same weight as the K4 / K4GT so they dropped the modular concept about 25 years or so ago
Just back from dartmoor with it Whilst not hurricane it was pretty blustery and unpleasant and wet and it didn't bat an eye lid indeed it probably fell asleep lol 😆 Yeah a side sleeping teo person strong tent with proper vestibule would be nice . Closest is niak but yellow label (?) Or unna with not much porch although Messner seems to get a porch out of it. The width is 2m so plenty side sleeping but truth told as you say in the weather its for you'd see nothing and be zipped up and foot head better front back as longer 2.2m and vertical walls so for Expedition use front back the way and keeps foot end away. Ron will probably get more business lol its the hobbs marketing strategy use something else draw in more punters and they nose channel and see other stuff like MLD and bobs your uncle 😉 another sale 😆 This heavy stuff nice as a treat and for certain applications but MLD still rules 😉 thanks Stuart great to see you here Hope you're well
The Pack is so massive, i don't know how to handle with a Bag Pack. 3 Persons with Kajak, okay. Or with Car to the spot, but nothin more. Good Material, but nothin more. Apteryx 3 by Bach is devinitely an better Option, or the fat Oriole. Take Care of youre Back dude 💡
In the wind id argue only pegging out the windward end and then putting the poles in. This keeps the fabric flat on the ground and safe from the wind until you are ready. Pegging out both ends results in what happened at the beginning of your video. I'd also add that the way ive been taught to remove the pole quickest and safest is to hold the end against your chest/stomach area and just pull the sleeves up until the pole is free. The opposite for initially threading the pole - feed the pole all way until it reaches the socket, then position the socket and pole so that it is pushing against the ground rathwr than to the side (can slip out then), then unravel the fabric and secure. Bit hard to explain by writing but its a good method.
I'd like to see that method. Yeah I'd agree re pegging front too. I've heard just back then poles them pull up to fix like I did with nammajt 2 last video or five.... what i find confusing is Hilleberg video and instructions say peg front out (unless I'm mistaken) and must admit it isn't ideal and bit fiddly. Great comment that's what we love here good helpful comments to live and learn by thanks (not quite get the tummy thing - and my way works reasonably well in dropping tent quickly and safely - but all ideas thoughts welcome and for a million percent you and other proper regular users will users will have more experience) which is why its great more experienced folks watch my videos
@@TonyHobbs czcams.com/video/nGTRndHNNg4/video.htmlsi=iQ7bkVszanBCv6pI
This guy shows it
@@TonyHobbs this Finnish guy showcases it perfectly: czcams.com/video/nGTRndHNNg4/video.htmlsi=iQ7bkVszanBCv6pI
@@TonyHobbs nGTRndHNNg4?si=iQ7bkVszanBCv6pI use that youtube string. He shows it perfectly
@@TonyHobbs i have found a video showcasing the methods perfectly: type this into youtube: HOW TO PITCH A TUNNEL TENT - Tips and tricks for using a tunnel tent. That is what the video is called. However when i type that into youtube it doesn't find it... Strange. Mehtamikko is his channels name
Very enjoyable video as always. Hopefully you'll live your adventure. I have the saitaris. Live your dreams, all the very best
Thank you I looked at Saitaris but decided on this for Polar trips and folding this down and up for packing away but yours looks amazing. I'll hopefully get to snow one day no rush I'll take time and figure it out many thanks for lovely comment
This is such a great Tent. Hope you make it to Scandinavia 😊😊😊
Thank you 😊
Good video Tony ! Subbed
Very many thanks and welcome hope you enjoy more 😀
What a fantastic looking plaice of a tent plenty of room for extra corictuler activity’s
Get twenty maidens in there thry could cook clean and polish my pole 😆
Keron 3 was my first Hilleberg, great model Tony.
Spot on Tony, that’s one sturdy looking tent 💪⛺️, hilleberg make great tents, quality..atb Mick👍
For absolute sure
I took to Dartmoor and it was pants weather quite blustery and it didn't budge lol
You’ve already made it to Dartmoor in it! I’m just at the pitching stage and it is impressive that 1 person can put this up by themselves. Our geodesic DofE tents are really difficult to do by yourself. Possible but the students certainly can’t do it. Looking forward to seeing inside
Yes one person is fine with this
In freezing snow storm two might be helpful lol but one can generally manage in most conditions.
It's a beauty
I looked at Saitaris and thankfully made correct decision with this for simplicity and space it seems
Good luck with yours
wow what a great vlog ... im a berghaus grampion man 2 man tent.... but this tent is fab ,,, ty for a great vlog
Thanks Simon i always appreciate your time and comments on my vids
excellent - enjoy the comfort... it is second to none
Thank you its ridiculously brilliant its currently protecting me on dartmoor its fab very sturdy in wind
Tony... as stated earlier on... the Keron 4GT is not Hilleberg's flagship by chance... it is by far the best you can get on the market. The Saitaris cannot compete with it as its porches are much smaller in terms of effectively usable space. Likewise, it is much easier to errect it, notably if to be managed without any helping hand. Best purchase you have ever made, I reckon.
I first looked at Saitaris then studied more and came to your conclusions esp if solo etc thanks for lovely reply
I'm very pleased with it and for sure will enjoy it
I love your enthusiasm Tony! What are you going to do with all that space? Or dare we not ask? 😊. What a great project, and Lapland is a bit of a leap from Dartmoor. I'm hoping to do a similar trip but on snowshoes not skiing, as on skis I'm a liability to myself and anyone around me. I'll be using my red Akto for that.
Have you seen Matti & Stina's CZcams channel? If not, I think you'll like it?
Good luck!
Thanks Dom
I'll see is a going lady polar bear 🐻❄️ 😆 wants some cuddles as the sheep 🐑 😄 getting a bit predictable now 😆
I've given a sub to matti so will watch one or two indeed I see one on ski's snow shoes that looks interesting. My concern is your thoughts 😆 but I'll try ski's and see how it goes. MSR were kind enough to send me snow shoes but so far no snow .... I did a livestream on here with Antonio of Always Forward channel I hope to meet him if he's available next April 2025 in abisko Sweden and one or two others have offered to allow me to join them but let's see and take it steady 😀 I'm in no rush and zero pressure if anything happens it does ... thanks for your continued support watching
I’d probably use the back vestibule for going poo poos privately if needed
Do you dig a latrine back there or use something (solo or shared tent) but that definitely sounds a good option
Hello Tony.
I haven't been commenting on your videos for a long time.
This is surprising.....You in an even heavier tent then Nammatj 3GT???
But i have to say, that it looks amazing. two meters wide and five meters long..... holy s#*t, that's ten square metres, pitching area, 107 sq feet.
Izzy.....Lizzy..... Do you have a new dog? (sorry it was a long time ago...)
Good video Tony, thank you for the upload.
Yeah it's nammajt 3gt big brother 😆 I'll keep that but this is in different league 😆 hopefully get on skis and pull this in pulk one day
Lizzy was my wife's but sadly her mental health was too much to live with so I had to let her go to her family unfortunately and had to keep lizzy as she was too much for my wife. Lizzy did a few trips last year with me then mum looked after over winter or big trips but simple easy ish trips lizzy should be ok on 😀 hope you're well
I still have and will use my lightweight kit this just a nice option the heavier bits
Tony Hobbs!!!! What are you like?!?!? My good friend, they have to be pegged how Hilleberg have designed and instructed for them to be pulled out. If it’s pulling in any direction other than directly away from the sidewalls, referencing the guylines, the. You will lose its cylindrical structural integrity. Like squeezing a can in so it’s folding in, once under pressure it will collapse. You she to truth that Hilleberg the world famous arguable best tent maker bar none, knows a bit better than you or I, and have already done the research, for which way to guy the tent out. Also, if it breaks and they hear you don’t follow instructions you may have a very hard time using the warranty/guarantee to replace it. Thoroughly enjoyed the vid. The usual Hobbs rebel! Hahahaha! Keep up the great work.
Lord knows what autocorrect was thinking when I cobbled the above together, but it certainly wasn’t what’s here at certain points!! 🫡😂😂😂
You referencing the guys on mid poles? Yeah I saw they say 90 degrees in side wind but don't say in rear wind so my way seems better lol for side wind repeg to 90 degrees. I'm the expert not Bo who's done it 50 years lol the guy knows nothing 😅 😉 is that what you mean though or am I wrong 🤔
🤣🤣🤣 Cavernous tent! 😂😂😂 me thinks you need a pack of huskies and a sledge for your gear soon?
Lol its on my shopping list for sure 😅
Lizzy can pull it 😀
Oh my, somebody has a Kerlon addiction. Are you still on Ron's Christmas card list? K4GT is bomber and as you said ridiculously massive. Now I understand your motivation to be able to sleep facing the open door. In the conditions this tent is built for, there might not be much of a view. Nuff said. Love my HBs. I don't want to send you down a rabbit hole but in the 90s HB sold a couple of models that were the precursor to the Keron, 2m wide, but shorter, that could fit 2 people. If memory serves me correctly the Stalon 2 was a modular tent allowing side sleeping to the door, and owners could zip in extras such as the GT vestibule. But it was about the same weight as the K4 / K4GT so they dropped the modular concept about 25 years or so ago
Just back from dartmoor with it
Whilst not hurricane it was pretty blustery and unpleasant and wet and it didn't bat an eye lid indeed it probably fell asleep lol 😆
Yeah a side sleeping teo person strong tent with proper vestibule would be nice . Closest is niak but yellow label (?) Or unna with not much porch although Messner seems to get a porch out of it. The width is 2m so plenty side sleeping but truth told as you say in the weather its for you'd see nothing and be zipped up and foot head better front back as longer 2.2m and vertical walls so for Expedition use front back the way and keeps foot end away.
Ron will probably get more business lol its the hobbs marketing strategy use something else draw in more punters and they nose channel and see other stuff like MLD and bobs your uncle 😉 another sale 😆
This heavy stuff nice as a treat and for certain applications but MLD still rules 😉 thanks Stuart great to see you here Hope you're well
id watch for abrasion with the guy lines fabic touching the pole sleeve, (left side of the door) one guy had wear after one night with alot of wind.
Angle line away from sleeve so it's not touching
that cannot happen if guy-lines are oriented IAW instruction manual
The Pack is so massive, i don't know how to handle with a Bag Pack.
3 Persons with Kajak, okay.
Or with Car to the spot, but nothin more.
Good Material, but nothin more.
Apteryx 3 by Bach is devinitely an better Option, or the fat Oriole.
Take Care of youre Back dude 💡
It's a Gregory paragon very comfy pack