02 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Part 9: Bog be Gone! [The FIX!]
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- čas přidán 12. 02. 2021
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In today's video 02 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Part 9: Bog be gone! I dive into a few problem area's that could make this little troublesome gremlin pop up! All I got to say is.... "Should have known!?" lol- BUT, good thing is that it's fixed now and we can move on! So Check out the video and let me know what you thought the issue was in the comments section!
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Did you check the compression of that cylinder ,?
I suspicion a stuck ring.
Did you check the crankcase seals for leaks ?
If I may kindly make a suggestion go back and look at the beginning of this series you are at part 9
Bro I have worked in these Snow Machines for 25+ year's , I replace Arctic Cat Stator's and CDI boxes 5 to 1 over the other brand's ! My sled is a Ski Doo ! Great Vid ! Thank's Bro !
Yeah I dont know what was up with cat stators. Late 90s was bad and some early 2000s. Probably chinese copper on ocassion. Lol
So does that say then that the throttle position sensor basically isn't necessary? Seems like it was running great with that unplugged.
The TPS is a safety measure. I personally like all of my features (safety and convenience) working properly. Its up to you to unplug and keep it unplugged but for being so easy to cleanup and repair, I would suggest spending the time to fix it like I did. Using the carbon conductive grease will avoid anymore corrosion while keeping optimal contact. The manfacturers should have used this from the beginning. But non have.
You need a pic up coil for the mag side see how the spark stops jumping at idle
It actually ended up being the TSS switch that was faulty.
Check out the video here...
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That’s cool. It’s like voltron lives in there. Lol
Yeah I figured some poeple would get a kick out of that footage. I thought it was really cool.
Andrew Crocker- Fixin2Ride- Have an 04 mountain cat 600 efi that wants to idle high, does stall out when starting, then idles high, changed fuel pump, changed plugs, getting spark from coil,, Will check TSS, what is normal idle 2000 rpm?
1500 to 1700 RPMs typically. You might be looking at crank seals leaking.
HI, Gre stuff. my 99 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI died on the trail after blowing my lights.
was told the bulbs blew because my voltage regulator went bad, (blew all my bulbs).
replaced it and them.
still no start but lights flash on pull.
could it have damaged my fuel pump? ( i am smelling gas when pulling)
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Sorry for late response I forgot to reply to this. Yes was definitely the voltage regulator. All your plugs and see if you have spark or if the plugs are wet. If the plugs are wet and it seems like your fuel pump is working and you might not have spark. If you have spark in your plugs are dry then you might not be getting fuel. Check and see if you have any fuses that are blown if your slide has fuses
Do you know if there is any way to swap a power valve 600 engine into and none power valve 600 sled? And what it would take to do it and if it would be worth it.
You just need the entire engine an electrical system including the power valve servo CDI box and all that. You'll definitely want to swap wire harness as well
No it's Not worth it ! Just get a Ski Doo !!!!!!!!!
🤣🤣🤣
Could you possibly tell me what could be wrong on my 96 wildcat?? Sat a few seasons in a barn. I got it running with new spark plugs, rode it maybe 2 hours and opened it up and it stalled shortly after and I wasn’t able to get it to fire back up. I heard the fuel pump come on when I turned the key before it stalled but never heard it come back on after
Check your grounds, ecu should blink once when you turn it on. Check and make sure the relay for the pump works as well as the fuse for the pump. Hows your battery voltage?
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- I had a battery starter connected and still couldn’t get it to fire.. I’m not sure what could be wrong, I have a feeling it had bad gas so I added new gas an still nothing.
Check your fuses and if not that you may have fried your BECU using the jumper box you're not supposed to use those
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- where can I find a new BECU & is it going to be difficult to replace?
Did you check your fuses? Also have you checked your emergency switch on the handlebars
Hi! Do you have experience tuning carburetors on such a motor? Need help 🤦♂️
Yes. What are the symptoms or behavior that you are experiencing?
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- Probably the injector was replaced with carburetors and there is no altitude controller, the fuel tubes for the altitude controller are connected - gasoline flows from them when the engine is running, if they are turned off, it fills the candles
Im not sure what you're talking about?
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- How to adjust the fuel level in the carburetor float chamber?
You adjust the float height. Which you do by cardfully bending the small tab in the moddle. Hold the carb sideways. You want to float to fall intonpositiom which is typically going to make the float sit parallel to the carb bowl mounting surface.
Andrew, hi.
I watched your video I don't quite understand what the problem is? The problem is that one cylinder is working then not working? It is necessary to solve according to the algorithm. I'll tell you how I do it. The cylinder may not work for a reason. No pressure, no fuel, no spark. Incorrect spark supply( it will work but not well)
So.
1. Pressure. The compression should have been checked first. If the compression is normal, then the reason is not the pressure.
2. Fuel. We unscrew the candles and look. if the candles are wet, then the fuel is coming. If the candles are dry, then the fuel does not arrive and the problem lies in the fuel supply system.
3. Ignition. We take the cap from the candle. we insert a candle in it and put it on top of the engine. Launch and watch. It will be perfectly visible( especially if you are in the garage or if you do it in the evening at dusk) as a spark breaks through the spark gap on the candle. Since you did it, it's better not to do it. due to the long distance, a spark breakdown may occur. And then you can break a block of SDI . And if you put a candle on the mass of the engine or housing, the spark will only be between the electrodes of the candle. And so. if there is no spark, the problem is in the ignition system. either in the candle itself (we can insert another one and compare it) or in the coil or in the SDI block.
And now consider the case of the wrong feed.
3.0 incorrect feed the spark. The engine will be unstable. There will be bangs and gunshots.
Incorrect fuel supply
2.0 Incorrect fuel supply. The engine can also only operate in certain modes. To smoke . do not gain momentum. That's why you can't spin the engine. because one cylinder is running and spends energy compressing the air in the second cylinder which is not running.
2.1 . There can be a lot of fuel. Then the spark cannot ignite the mixture. But the candle will be wet! Have you checked how your injectors work? Have you watched them spray? A candle can only ignite a mist of fuel. Sometimes the nozzle does not spray but gives a jet (we say "the nozzle pisses"). In this case, the resistance of the nozzle coil will be good. but due to the wear of the nozzle or wedging of the nozzle stem, the spray will be wrong!
2.2 The opening time of the nozzle also affects the amount of fuel. If the time is delayed, then there will be a lot of fuel and it will not burn properly again. That's why I LOVE THE GOOD OLD CARBURETORS! THEY ARE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND ha ha ha
Management.
1.1. The SDI unit may give incorrect signals for both ignition and fuel supply. There can be many reasons. for example, a transaction that is bent. And has bad contact. The coil may also not work correctly. you only measured the resistance between the caps! Measure between the cap and the mass. Between the cap and the low voltage wire. Possible breakdown of the coil. The mute button should not affect the operation. More precisely, it will affect the operation of BOTH cylinders. The button cannot affect the operation of only ONE cylinder. It simply gives a signal to the SDI unit to stop the ignition supply! But the ignition signal goes from the SDI unit to BOTH CYLINDERS , not to each one separately. Possible. when you were disassembling the panel, you moved some wire or contact and so it worked. I don't have a map or description of your snowmobile. if I had more data, I would tell you more precisely what is the reason that the cylinder does not work.
The bog was partially the stator but then it contonied on with the one cylinder because of a faulty TSS switch in the thumb throttle. I unplugged the TSS switch and the issues were gone.
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- TSS switch is what?
Throttle Safety Switch. Which is also the emergency stop switch (ESS)
Mine dies out immediately when I unplug one spark plug boot. Doesnt matter which one either.
What year and model sled is yours? Have you tried removing the boots from the spark wires and cutting 1/4"-3/8" of the end of the wires off and reinstalling the boots?
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- No I havent. 98 Arctic Cat 600 efi.
It was running fine and had her going for the few days of snowfall then out of nowhere boom. But I just found a broken ground.
That was my next focus. Make sure all your grounds are clean and connected.
That’s what mine does. It gets so bad it only idles then dies
Its probably yoir TSS switch then. They are fairly easy to remove. Hardest part is getting to those screws.
Is say you need a new kill switch
czcams.com/video/lGyR7jHwino/video.html
Try your fuel pressure and fuel regulator
Seems fine.
I have a 2000 zr 600
Nice. What does it need?
Why don't you go to basics first and put gas directly on that cylinder and replace the plug and see if it' starts
Way ahead of you my friend I did all that.
My buddy has a Polaris 700 xc sp that you can't use ngk spark plugs in it champion plugs only
Really? Interesting. Im curious... Whats the reason?
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- not sure why but we tried every plug and the Champions work
@@larrywarner9314 Yeah that would be veey interesting to check out. I like stuff like that. Trying to find that single reason "why" something is so particular. Science the crap out of it! Ya know?
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- I had a 2002 zr 500 carb sled and it was the same way it would only run on the plugs it called for really strange but it ran good
Interesting. I deff think that EYAs are superior plugs to avoid fouling.
You're going to ruin your CDI jumping that plug wire around without a proper ground.
It was fine and ran fine for the last 2 winters.
swap the injectors..
Thanks for commenting! Make sure to watch until the end! 😉
Thx for watching!
Andrew C.
Get an aftermarket can or an mbrp trail can
I have a D&D can I refinished but its for an 800. Sounds awesome but just loud. Lol
Star tron is better than stabal
Sont think I heard of that. Ill have to look unto that.
You have an electrical issue
Did you finish the video?
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- yeah
You got it! It was the TSS. Unplugged it and its all good. Smh. Hence the thumbnail for the video! BUT I went through other stuff and its all good. And that's just more peace of mind.
@@Fixin2Ride-Official- that's good you found the issue
Yes it is. Wife and daughter are happy about it! Now just to button up a few things... More videos coming soo.
Thanks for watching!