Are Americans Tuning Out The 2024 Election? | 538 Politics Podcast

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
  • It’s no secret that we are headed toward a presidential election that many Americans said they didn’t want. Somewhere in the range of 20 percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of both former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden, and if ratings are any indication, a lot of folks seem to be tuning campaign news out.
    So what does this portend for turnout? We’ve been in an era of high-turnout elections since 2016, but will fatigue or disdain keep people home this fall? In this installment of the 538 Politics podcast, the crew debates what kind of turnout we should expect and why it matters. They also discuss why Biden and Trump decided to go forward with two earlier-than-usual debates.
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Komentáře • 89

  • @bberlin25
    @bberlin25 Před 25 dny +81

    Are they no longer posting full length podcasts with video? I don’t know why we are getting an inferior product in an election year.

    • @Mr__Waffles
      @Mr__Waffles Před 24 dny +15

      Because their parent company is greedy and lazy. That’s always the answer.

    • @Ziontrainism
      @Ziontrainism Před 24 dny +3

      Money.. but I'm not sure how. Sucks. I also loved Google podcasts.. CZcams music is inferior.

    • @GTA5Player1
      @GTA5Player1 Před 24 dny +2

      Precisely BECAUSE it's an election year!

    • @logicalcomrade7606
      @logicalcomrade7606 Před 21 dnem +3

      Yeah. This is insane!
      Surely they can see that the number of views on a full length video are triple that of the short clips and the audio only.

    • @Mr__Waffles
      @Mr__Waffles Před 21 dnem

      @@logicalcomrade7606 I'm sure they do, but they'd rather capture viewers on their own site than share them with anywhere else.

  • @dcap1
    @dcap1 Před 25 dny +35

    I don’t mind no video I’m just glad the full ep. Is back! Thanks for hearing us love yall

    • @nendoakuma7451
      @nendoakuma7451 Před 24 dny +5

      I have listened in podcast form, but I’m constantly on CZcams so I prefer to do it there. I do not check out my podcasts nearly as often as I check CZcams.

  • @rlig5932
    @rlig5932 Před 24 dny +17

    The sad part is that they dont ever address the video not being on YT nor do they discuss the complete removal from YT prior to this video for the past several weeks.

    • @cradio52
      @cradio52 Před 21 dnem +2

      Yeah I would have expected Galen to at least preface an episode with a quick mention of wtf has been going on. It’s an election year for gods sake!

  • @DillonMinasian
    @DillonMinasian Před 25 dny +27

    nice! love that the full eps are back

    • @ckq
      @ckq Před 24 dny

      I mean they've always been there on Spotify/Apple.
      You can use other apps than CZcams.

    • @yuppers1
      @yuppers1 Před 24 dny +1

      ​@@ckqNah

    • @wereoctopus
      @wereoctopus Před 24 dny +4

      ​@@ckqI don't get ads on youtube, so other platforms provide an objectively worse experience.

    • @charlesmiv3842
      @charlesmiv3842 Před 24 dny

      @@ckq Spotify and Apple are riddle with ads.

  • @RandyJGJ
    @RandyJGJ Před 25 dny +24

    Yes! Full episodes are back to YT. Even if there isn’t the video, being able to add it to my video playlists are a plus! Thanks.

  • @1_random_commenter
    @1_random_commenter Před 25 dny +8

    RE: "Are Americans tuning out the 2024 election," I'm definitely starting to.
    I know how I'm going to vote. I can't imagine how I'd change anyone's mind, and I can't imagine any opposing argument that would change mine.
    The status quo seems set in stone, and to the extent that people screaming on Twitter is changing anything at all, it certainly doesn't seem to require my involvement. There are already more than enough internet warriors.
    Any time and attention spent on politics just seems like a massive opportunity cost for no reward.

  • @colincagle4185
    @colincagle4185 Před 24 dny +21

    Bring back the video!

    • @charlesmiv3842
      @charlesmiv3842 Před 24 dny

      Dog, I just want the full length at this point, video or not.

  • @mzaa6787
    @mzaa6787 Před 24 dny +7

    Why no video?

  • @cholten99
    @cholten99 Před 24 dny +4

    Having the full episode back is great - but I presume you're still recording with video so why stop putting that up? It's a much better experience.

  • @RichardJoJoyce
    @RichardJoJoyce Před 24 dny +4

    Thanks for bringing back full podcasts!

  • @billdoor1411
    @billdoor1411 Před 24 dny +1

    Appreciate the return of full length podcast eps on CZcams, video or not

  • @Alexis-lt3zy
    @Alexis-lt3zy Před 23 dny

    THANK YOU FOR BRINGING FULL EPS BACK!!! We all appreciate this so much.

  • @gregorybupp
    @gregorybupp Před 24 dny +2

    I do miss the video but thank you for bringing the full one back here.

  • @steveyoung9687
    @steveyoung9687 Před 25 dny +6

    No video?

  • @VicTheVicar
    @VicTheVicar Před 24 dny +2

    Great that we get the full lenght podcast again on youtube! How about the talking heads? It's so much easier to follow the reasoning when you see them talk.

  • @GTA5Player1
    @GTA5Player1 Před 24 dny +2

    Good, now post the actual video and I might watch again!

  • @jak151d
    @jak151d Před 24 dny +3

    Not sure about US tuning out of elections. But I sure was tuning out of the current change of short youtube clips of the podcast.

  • @joannawarrens5117
    @joannawarrens5117 Před 24 dny +1

    Thank you!!!!! You listened. I can listen in the car today!🎉🎉🎉

  • @LividImp
    @LividImp Před 24 dny +8

    Yes, Americans are very much tuning out the 2024 election. The two candidates are so starkly different, I can't imagine the kind of person that could bounce between them. Whoever you voted for last time is very likely who you'll vote for this time. There is no campaign promise Trump can make that will allow me to forget Jan. 6th. And if you forgave Trump for Jan. 6th, then you'll be just as brainwashed today as you were four years ago. There is no horse race this time around. The only variable in all of this is those that are so stupid that they'd put inflation concerns over democracy.

    • @nuqwestr
      @nuqwestr Před 24 dny

      1/6 had nothing to do with Trump, it was a small riot, big deal.

  • @ChristopherLWeeks
    @ChristopherLWeeks Před 23 dny

    Galen and company, thanks for all the time you've put into this. I'll miss you folks.

  • @funtechu
    @funtechu Před 25 dny +2

    Yay! Full episodes are back!

  • @DK3CHAMP
    @DK3CHAMP Před 24 dny +20

    People are tuning out because they can't see video anymore.

    • @Durnrhaegar
      @Durnrhaegar Před 24 dny +8

      At this point let's just be thankful that we still have long form podcast. This apparently has a very niche audience and is a money losing product for their parent company.
      Does anyone have recommendation for other high quality podcast about politics / elections / statistics ?

    • @GTA5Player1
      @GTA5Player1 Před 24 dny +2

      ​@@Durnrhaegar I'll be thankful when they start posting the whole videos and stop trying to nudge us to Spotify or whatever. Not a fan of the nudging!

    • @diannet7187
      @diannet7187 Před 23 dny

      @@Durnrhaegar I enjoy much of The Bulwark output. Not much on statistics, but lots on current politics.

    • @bentay999
      @bentay999 Před 17 dny

      There are tons of good right leaning ones. Not too many left leaning ones, i enjoy listening to both sides so its a bummer 538 is basically irrelevant now. ​@@Durnrhaegar

  • @uwuphobia728
    @uwuphobia728 Před 25 dny +5

    Idk about the election but im certainly tuning out this podcast for the past week or so from the sharp drop in quality

  • @glenncalkins4764
    @glenncalkins4764 Před 24 dny +1

    So many people misunderstand margin of error.

  • @gsbetthedoom
    @gsbetthedoom Před 24 dny +1

    Full episodes (or close) are back! 🎉

  • @nicebluejay
    @nicebluejay Před 24 dny +4

    need video

  • @Ava-wu4qp
    @Ava-wu4qp Před 25 dny +2

    full episodes! Wooo~

  • @SuperGion915
    @SuperGion915 Před 22 dny

    Eh, I'm sad there is no longer a video, but at least I'm glad I get to hear the audio.

  • @scottcardwell932
    @scottcardwell932 Před 24 dny

    I'm tuning out of 538 because of this qr code.

  • @cradio52
    @cradio52 Před 21 dnem

    I’m glad the full episodes are finally back on CZcams, but it’s a pretty bizarre choice to downgrade the production value of this podcast in an election year by eliminating video 🙄🤷‍♂️

  • @olenbrown
    @olenbrown Před 24 dny +1

    I feel like they fired whoever made the videos and they made a huuuge mistake.

  • @0o0ification
    @0o0ification Před 24 dny +1

    Obviously, we will need a comparative analysis of the previous repeat major candidates. I took a quick look and there are quite a few examples, although none since the 1950s, which means that new calculations(?) for all of the data analysis and correlations.

  • @steven0837
    @steven0837 Před 25 dny +2

    Don't need 4 years as a lead-up. One month would be enough. All the time consuming means there are too many humans without any more productive activities but glorified gossip. Hu-mans are soo simple.

  • @charlesmiv3842
    @charlesmiv3842 Před 24 dny

    Please bring back the full length episodes! No need to add video.

  • @jak151d
    @jak151d Před 24 dny +1

    Most youtubers will post the podcast and then either post highlights as shorts or separate the topics into their own videos of variable size

  • @ckq
    @ckq Před 24 dny +1

    Regarding the MOE vs MOTE,
    I'm not a fan of ppl creating a metric and then saying there's error they can't account for.
    Just show me the error you can account for and that's what the 538 polling averages are for.
    What you should do is take 538 polling average and blend it with some robust economic/sentiment indicators to better account for systematic error.

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 Před 25 dny +1

    Right now yes. Soon they’ll tune in

  • @coachtaewherbalife8817
    @coachtaewherbalife8817 Před 24 dny +1

    Rfk Jr is only on the ballot in four states. Why is he an issue for the debates?

    • @GTA5Player1
      @GTA5Player1 Před 24 dny

      Just because the system is broken doesn't change the fact that he does have double digit polling numbers

    • @RealAmerican73
      @RealAmerican73 Před 24 dny

      @@GTA5Player1 most trusted pollsters, yougov and siena college, have him below 5%. it's only the right-wing pollsters like harrisx and activote that have him still at double digits, and it's obvious why.

  • @juanrestrepo302
    @juanrestrepo302 Před 25 dny +2

    At least yall own up to being wrong

  • @Joaquin546
    @Joaquin546 Před 23 dny

    Just get out and vote!

  • @seattlekarim964
    @seattlekarim964 Před 25 dny +2

    Debate hasn't happened yet. I'd still "sell" at 70%.

    • @cadethumann8605
      @cadethumann8605 Před 25 dny

      Small curiosity, but are you referring to the presidential debate or a video debate?

    • @funtechu
      @funtechu Před 25 dny

      @@cadethumann8605 He's talking about the presidential debate. See the previous episode of the podcast, and the debate discussion in this one for some context.

    • @cadethumann8605
      @cadethumann8605 Před 25 dny

      @@funtechu Ah, I see. My apologies.
      Though, I do wonder if presidential debates truly affect the election nowadays. I read somewhere that they don't change polls (even if they are people undecided). Perhaps what I read was bogus, though. What do you think?

    • @funtechu
      @funtechu Před 25 dny

      @@cadethumann8605 538 did a podcast episode on it a while back (I think it was after the 2nd presidential debate in 2020) and the general consensus of the data was that the impact was small. However, the data did show that large gaffs during a debate *could hurt* a candidate.

    • @cadethumann8605
      @cadethumann8605 Před 24 dny

      @@funtechu Large gaffs? What does that mean? I never heard of them before. And what do you mean by hurting a candidate without it affecting the polls very much? Forgive my ignorance (I don't keep up with politics for mental health reasons. Lately, however, this election is driving me anxious). I just need clarification.

  • @chumpzilla30
    @chumpzilla30 Před 25 dny +1

    Woot! Wins for everyone!

  • @danielcoven9756
    @danielcoven9756 Před 25 dny

    Why don't they care about MOE and total survey error?

    • @nuqwestr
      @nuqwestr Před 24 dny

      What is the Margin of Error?
      The margin of error (MOE) for a survey tells you how near you can expect the survey results to be to the correct population value. For example, a survey indicates that 72% of respondents favor Brand A over Brand B with a 3% margin of error. In this case, the actual population percentage that prefers Brand A likely falls within the range of 72% ± 3%, or 69 - 75%.

  • @DistrustHumanz
    @DistrustHumanz Před 19 dny

    Audio only? I'm starting to think 538 is about to go bankrupt.

  • @barbielf9650
    @barbielf9650 Před 25 dny

    Yes to an extent. Feel like the world is ending, so let it. Tired of yelling at the tv and radio.

  • @WeatherManToBe
    @WeatherManToBe Před 24 dny +1

    Resubbed lol

  • @logicalcomrade7606
    @logicalcomrade7606 Před 21 dnem

    I'm done with this YT channel!
    I need full length video.
    Does anyone know of another YT channel that does a politics podcast focused on polling?
    I know Pod to Save America, and the election map channels are a thing, but those pale in comparison when it comes to polling.

  • @daviddyerlawson6100
    @daviddyerlawson6100 Před 24 dny +4

    No vid -- no sub.

  • @leftyknox72
    @leftyknox72 Před 24 dny

    Should make a poll for if americans are tuning out of 538? Some of the decisions this company has made have been very confusing and are definitely going to lead to me unsubing.

  • @illegalcriminal9830
    @illegalcriminal9830 Před 24 dny +2

    please don't upload the full podcast to CZcams, just put up short clips from it.

  • @pupnoomann7866
    @pupnoomann7866 Před 24 dny

    this is significantly more boring without video.

  • @nuqwestr
    @nuqwestr Před 24 dny

    Biden supporters are tuning out, LOL.

    • @RealAmerican73
      @RealAmerican73 Před 24 dny

      you're part of the problem. stop with the demeaning and inflammatory remarks and start trying to have real discussions with people. if they don't want that, they aren't worth your time. simple.

    • @nuqwestr
      @nuqwestr Před 24 dny

      @@RealAmerican73 I'm a 69 year old California Democrat. Not sure your point, it's always "worth" a shot, never give up, never surrender. Trump 2024

    • @RealAmerican73
      @RealAmerican73 Před 24 dny

      @@nuqwestr yeahhh...no. ur definitely not a california democrat. idk what it is about trump supporters, they love lying about things like that, i remember one maga guy who claimed he was a young black man, one look at his profile showed he was an old white man. you guys no longer have benefit of the doubt from people outside your circle. sad but true.

    • @CB38096
      @CB38096 Před 23 dny

      DINO 🦖 I’m a California republican voting Biden! Biden 2024 🇺🇸🦅

    • @nuqwestr
      @nuqwestr Před 23 dny

      @@CB38096 If true, and in good faith,more power to you. My comment is in good faith. I've been a Dem since 1973, will vote Trump, but it will only be symbolic, as California will go 60%+ for Biden.
      California has an almost 80 billion dollar deficient, the Los Angeles school district defunded the police by 50% and campus crime went up 200%. My city just spent millions on an LGBTQ+ parade while I had to call about a tent encampment across the street at a park being used by that very same parade. Priorities are upside down when vandalism of two towers in Los Angeles is reported by the media as an Art Installation.