I just had my 60th birthday and started learning cello 9 months ago. I'm doing very well, my instructor [ he's 37 yrs old] said he is awestruck how quickly I've progressed. I wanted this all my life love it! don't let anyone ever tell you, you can't learn something new because of your age.
I started learning cello at 64 so I started much later than Mr. Kinnaer. I am thoroughly enjoying my studies. So don't let your advancing age keep you from starting a musical instrument. The New Horizons International Music Association has a web site that lists groups in the USA, and some in other countries, geared for older adults. I play with the Salt Lake Valley New Horizons Orchestra in Utah. I have been with them since beginning cello.
I can only agree. Age should not keep one from starting to learn an instrument. No matter what you do, no matter at what age you start doing it, the most important thing is that you enjoy what you do :-)
You have me smiling here Peg! It's been almost 50 years since I last touched a cello.....played it for 2 years in school and loved every minute of it. My parents convinced me that music could do me no good in the future and switched me to typing :-( I've always had a yearning to get back to playing but I let life get in the way. Now, with retirement looming this year I have started to look for the perfect cello so I can resume my passion for the instrument and the magnificent sound it makes. Thanks for your inspiration Peg!
I'm 64 and debating daily if I should start and I'm torturing myself over what i can afford, should I do it, can I do it. I'm afraid I won't stick with it and I've never played anything in my life.
@@JacquesKinnaerCello I just got my first cello this week and I'm 69! Wanted one for 3/4 years, decided surviving a second lock down in the uk depended on being focused. couldn't think if anything better to focus on than learning to play the cello.
Another advantage to starting with the cello as an adult, is that you will be used to learning new things. You know what is needed to learn things, and your mind (a bit like a muscle) is trained to do that. You no longer need to learn how to learn and this will make learning something new, easier.
Thank you, Rachel. Indeed, learning the Cello is not easy. But part of the fun is in the struggle, or rather in the accomplishment after the struggle. Good luck, but above all, enjoy your practice :-)
@@wishyouwerehere1982 I actually bought my own cello.. but.. life happens and I havent played in 2 years. Maybe lazy, maybe something else. But someday ill.pick it up again. I wish you best of luck and enjoy your learning journey
I am 64 years old, and just started playing the cello a little over 3 months ago. I have played guitar all my life, and was hopeful some of that skill would carry over. It has carried over big-time. The fingering is actually no problem for me. Mastering the bow is another story, but I'm getting there. As an adult, I find I'm much smarter about how to practice, more demanding of myself, and more motivated. In three months I'm already doing slurs, shifts, and vibrato, and I'm actually playing some songs that are starting to sound quite good. Make no mistake, I work hard at this every day for an hour or more, but it's coming along nicely (I'm way ahead of the guy in the video). My teacher has been quite amazed at my progress. So the answer is absolutely -- you are not too old to learn the cello. I may not be able to play in a symphony orchestra, but I expect to be playing solos at church within another 3 months (and I'm musician enough that it has to sound very good or I won't do it, but I'm on track to get there.) DO IT! It's not too late!
I am 67 and also played guitar since I was 14. There were decades where I stopped due to family commitments but then picked it up again and started playing in a band. I always loved the cello and have a place in my heart for classical music. At this point I have never even held a cello but have decided to learn how to play it. I feel my musical experience will help. It must be difficult for one to learn when they are not even familiar with scales and notes.
I am 71 in May and bought a 100 year old German instrument last week that I had been looking at for some time. I have been studying Classical guitar for some years and made the plunge when I started to work on transcriptions of Bach's cello Suite. Like this gentleman I am gleaning information on You Tube. Next will be to start lessons . So there.
Thank you for sharing. Love the honesty. I’m 53 and just started learning cello a few weeks ago. No huge expectations but to learn to play it the best way I can.
Thanks for your video 🙏. I m 56 , i m a piano teacher. During 7 years, i played violin, but I decided one day to start to Learn cello...After a visit to my luthier. I don t regret. To play cello is wonderful 🎻😊
Thanks for this Jacques. I’m 67 with a background in guitar and have decided to learn to play the cello. I am familiar with the conventions of music. Notes, scales, etc so I’m not worried about any of that. I’m more concerned with mastering technique but life is for learning and mine is far from over. You make a lot of sense. Adults approach learning a new instrument with more, well, maturity.
I am a piano teacher aged 32 and I've been playing cello as my second instrument for 6 years now. I took ABRSM exam grade 5 last year and now I continue self-studying under supervisions of a pro cellist friend. I'm so happy learning the cello, I joined a string orchestra in another music school, and created a decent accoustic band which includes string quartet. Sometimes I also play in a quartet setting with friends (two violins and one viola), and play for church services or commercially for any events
I too have had this experience at 43, but with the violin, you're never to old and in fact, the older u get, the more you'll appreciate the experience of perfecting yourself on the instrument of your choice
Hola. I am 54 now and I started to play cello 5 years ago. Now I have lots of fun doing "loops" with a bass guitar and some guitar efectos and I play my cello acompañado por los loops that I do.... Every thing very simple, very "beginer", but very satisfyng... (perdón por mi inglés) :)
Thank you for this... im 29 i work as a supervisor at a casino here in Arizona and i want to learn how to play the cello been thinking about it for some years and your words just gave me hope thank you...
It's not a question. Go for it. Success depends on your expectations and dedication. When I started cello a few years after retirement, it was because I wanted a challenge, and knew I wanted my effort to be with the most beautiful instrument. I define success as being able to learn - there's always more to it. Keys have been finding the right teacher and finding satisfaction in practicing and learning. Playing the cello seems to be the hardest thing I've ever done, and it's just that rewarding. There are books about different people's adventures starting music as an adult. A most pertinent is John Holt, Never too late.
I'm 37 and just picked cello back up. I played it for a year in middle school, so trying again after 25 years is basically like starting over. I'm enjoying it so far.
Thank YOU! I'm turning 45 and I want to start learning how to play the cello, it's a dream of mine, and I really was asking myself "am I too old?" So grateful for your wisdom ☺
Thank you for your feedback :-) The question about age and learning to play the cello is actually not really a relevant one. Age doesn't have to do with it. You'll only find out if learning the cello is "your thing" by giving it a good, passionate go :-) And that goes for any dream that you have and are trying to fulfil. I've found that people telling me that I'm too old for this, are quite often people who are afraid to dream, afraid to follow their dreams and perhaps even somewhat envious of all those that do follow their dreams. So don't let such people hold you back :-)
I appreciate this i just purchased a cello. I fell in love with its sound and am completely moved when I hear people play. I am 33 and was so nervous about not being able to learn I bought an electric one so no one would hear. It hasn't even arrived and I started to second guess the purchase. Thank you I will sign up for classes and give it a try.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic. Similar to you, I started playing the cello almost a year ago at the age of 46. Learning and playing the cello has been very rewarding. Best of luck to you and I hope you continue to enjoy it as much as I do.
I'll be 65 this year and I've been watching videos and reading about cello's and struggling with the idea of learning. I live alone on a fixed income and spent most of my time alone so I've been debating this choice for a long time now. I know people tend to look at age as an end point and anyone over a certain age is old but we all find out, I think, that you don't feel any different at my age than I did at 21. But coodination changes and with too much sitting on the couch and you physically become much older than you are. Anyway, thanks for this video. It gives hope.
Thank you so much for your video. I am 33 and a few weeks back, i decided to pick up the cello. I'm still in the process of buying one, but honestly can't wait to get started. Thank you for the inspiration.
Whoever says you are too old to start learning any instrument, is completely full of s**t. Learning an instrument is one of the best things to keep your mind active and stimulated. In fact it should be always RECOMMENDED to people to learn an instrument, despite their age.
Thank you for sharing your story and the encouragement you have to offer. I read that an advantage of learning as an adult is that you have much better muscle control than a child does. Anyway, I hope to begin learning soon.
If you played an instrument as a child, at least for a year, you can learn any other instrument later, no doubt I used to play piano as a child, then I started cello at 39 and now, after 8 years, I'm a professional cello player. Good luck!
mausol69 I have played the piano and the recorder since I was 8 , and I started to learn cello properly almost 2 years ago (now I'm 19) I'm putting a lot of effort to improve as fastest as I can because I love the cello. But I was worried about to continue studying the cello or not... I really want to play it professionally. Your comment made me get more confidence again, thank you so much.
I will be 80 in about one month. I got a cello about three months ago. Because I have a totally severed muscle in my rotator cuff my initial playing time was limited to a couple of minutes and by couple I really do mean two minutes. The A string is a killer but I can extend my time by sticking to tunes on the lower strings or using the heel of the bow on the A string. No lessons. I really can’t see paying for lessons spent massaging my shoulder. I am making fair progress. I’m even learning to read bass clef. I used to play early music on the recorder so I can rest the treble clef pretty good. I started fiddling when I was about 69 so I can handle a bow pretty good. I have two addictions, coffee and the cello and am buying a five string fiddle so I can play the same notes (in different octaves of course) on both instruments. The notes are a finger width apart on the fiddle and two (wide) finger widths apart on the cello. My mind makes the switch without too much thinking. I play both Irish session tunes and some early music recorder tunes on the cello. I really am a cello junkie
Kudos for starting with the Cello despite the physical problems that you are having. The A string is indeed a hard one, especially if you play closer to the tip. I have often said to the mrs that I could do with a nice massage while practicing, but it's not as practical as one might hope ;-)
In my case recovery is quick in the beginning but gradually takes longer. My deltoids seem to be trying to do the job of the supraspinatus, which is the severed muscle. Squeezing them helps also massaging a tendon that runs down to the bicep, which I learned about during physical therapy when it first happened. In about a half an hour I’m getting up, making coffee, taking my meds (blood pressure and statins) and starting my practice while it’s very quiet. No complaints from my neighbors. I can be heard in the hall but not upstairs or downstairs. I’ll quit around five, sleep until ten and start my day. I play my fiddle at a Thursday evening session and lug my cello to a Saturday beginner’s session. The high points of my week. When I started my shoulder was so overwhelmed that I’d lose control of the bow. Now I can usually tough it out to the end of the piece. Sorry to babble so much. You’d think I’d be tired but I’m wide awake, waiting to get started.
Bless you. When people say they are old and they are only fifty I despair. Then you wrote here and I am even a year younger than you (79) so here goes; I'm gonna buy a cello.
Started violin age 29. Just last week, I started cello. I am 74. Work every day on the cello has done wonders for my viola and violin. And I am finding out where the notes are on the cello. I play by ear.
I started @ 50. I rented and took lessons for 2 months and learned that I could do this so I bought one and am getting better with every year. The only regret is the size of the instrument!😳
I'm 66 years old. I learn violin as a child. At age 20, I put it down for 40 years while life had other requirements. Six years ago, my granddaughter took me to a school concert led by a guy named Mark Wood. Never heard of him, but I went. In the hall of the mountain king played over Born to be Wild was the coolest thing I ever heard. I have practiced regularly since. In January this year, I injured my left shoulder. I could not hold my violin for more that about 3 minutes. Last month, I rented a cello to see if different muscles are used. They are. We're a month in and having a ball learning new things. Just found Sarah Joy this week. Really good stuff there. Old guys CAN learn cello.
Thanks Steve. The way I see it, age has nothing to do with learning the Cello. Or anything, for that matter. It is all about commitment and enjoying what you are doing :-)
+Erica Goehring Thank you for your comment. I hope you will enjoy learning the cello at least as much as I do. You've already found Sarah Joy, she's a wonderful teacher with a very contagious enthusiasm, so go ahead and give it a try :-)
I'm 68 now, and started learning the cello 19mths ago. I'd 'dabbled' with various instruments over the years, but my experience was as good as insignificant, so in effect I was a total beginner. I rented a student cello (Stentor) from a music shop in Brighton, UK for the first 3mths. I had (still have) weekly lessons, and though progress was slow I enjoyed the learning process. I decided to commit myself more fully, so bought a new cello from the same shop. A good move because it was a much better instrument and bow - a nicer sound despite my scratchings and scrapings! A problem with my left hand effectively stopped me playing 7mths ago, so I sold the cello and bought a left-handed one (fortunately I can bow OK with my left hand). Being naturally left handed might have helped, but I'm happier playing this way round than before the change over. I'm now playing simple versions of folk tunes, well known parts of classical pieces, as well as learning scales, bowing techniques, sight-reading of music and all the other components of playing. I've decided not to take exams because formalised progress doesn't interest me. There are a couple of local amateur orchestras that I might be able to join in a while, but I have no particular goal in that direction either. My wife plays piano so we can always make our own music when I feel confident enough. I'll see what comes along, but in the meantime I simply enjoy learning to make better sounds with this wonderful instrument. The pleasure I get from simply playing some scales accurately, or playing a tune or two and getting most of the notes right is hard to express. Getting other things right (or at least improving), such as bow grip, bow pressure, slurring notes can be immensely frustrating, but highly enjoyable and so rewarding when they come together. And it does come - just don't make it hard work. In short, whatever your age, if you fancy trying the cello then go for it. It's a phenomenal instrument, and what I love is that you physically embrace it as you play - a lovely feeling. Many places rent them (it was costing me £25/month). Have a few lessons. You don't have to break the bank to find out whether you like it or not. As an additional incentive for older people, I believe that learning to play not only keeps the brain active, but actually develops it, and hopefully helps to keep the dreaded dementia at bay, We'll see.
That’s true. Nobody is too old to learn anything. I don’t know who started that concept but telling anyone “you’re too old “ for something is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. When I was young, my mom told me to learn piano because It was “easier” but I always wanted a violin. So when I got older I got myself a violin. I’m 43 and love learning to play musical instruments. The Cello will be next. Congratulations on being bold. As Capt kirk from Star Trek said: [….To boldly go where no one has gone before…]
And in my case, not just boldly going, but baldly as well ;-) Like Capt. Picard :-) Indeed. A statement that "one is too old" to do something, is indeed the stupidest thing. Yet I have found it on the Internet and a few people I know also told me. It probably comes from people who are themselves afraid to try and do something new, to explore their talents and who then when to discourage others from doing this. Nearing 6 years into my cello adventure, I am still enjoying both the learning process and the results so far. As to your mom's statement that piano is "easier": each instrument, including voice, comes with its own difficulties and each of them takes talent and even more dedication and effort to learn them.
@@JacquesKinnaerCello What she meant by that was because as my left hand used to be paralyzed but still tricky, I may not be able to hold it. So she thought that with a piano, it would be easier so I wouldn’t have to force it.
I am 26, my husband has played violin since he was 4. The cello has been my favorite instrument for several years, but back in college (my degree was music education, vocal track) I had to do a violin solo recording. My husband says I sounded good for how little I had been playing (a one semester class where it felt like we barely played) but I really thought it sounded like a dying cat!! The position of the cello was much more natural but in the course I only got to play it a couple times :( Yesterday I just randomly had this great urge to get a cello so I can play with my husband. We are going to see if there are any duets with a challenging violin part but an easy cello one. Or he may write us a few pieces :) Hoping not to be discouraged- it may be hard with such a talented string player here but every time I hear the cello I just feel swept away!!
You are likely to have moments of discouragement. I sure had them, and I don't doubt there will be some more ahead. Discouragement can help you reflect on what is not going well, according to you and gives you an opportunity to work on that. Patience is key. And so is "forgiving your mistakes". Most of all, though, enjoy the learning process and not only the results.
Jacques Kinnaer, so inspiring your video is and ... yes im totally agree. i just started 4 days ago and i enjoy it very much. don't care how old I am , as long as i still have breath its mean im young and i enjoy it.
So I am 25 years old and my adoptive mom plays the cello. She has a great cello and there was another cello student grade that was in a bag case.. so I decided to bring the student cello out when my parents traveled out to New Orleans, La this past week. Sadly I couldn't play it because I couldn't find the bow, but I left it out on the cello stand that had been in the bag case. My parents come back today, my mom noticed that cello was out.. I said "Oh yes, I was going to play it but I couldn't find the bow and I didn't want to use your bow." Then she tells me before leaving the house with my dad to a dinner somewhere, "You're not going to play the cello." Now I have a history a piano lessons for years and didn't practice really well, but I still could play and compose music that was orchestral and various types of jazz. I produced starting as a 7th grader and onward. I also played Trombone which I was pretty good at, still had the practice problem, although I still got first chair in my High School jazz band and I enjoyed playing the Trombone with a community orchestra. So in my mind I would like to try to play the cello, I find it could be a great adventure. Yet I do have a just recently turned 1 year old daughter and living at home with my parents being a stay at home mom, my Fiance is living and working to support his little family... It is tough, but I still want to truly try this. Is my mom right?
There's only one way to find out of playing the Cello is "your thing", and that's by giving it a go. We all have busy schedules some way or the other (school, work, household, ...), and we all have to figure out a way to fit our Cello practice into that schedule. I am sure that you can find a decent quality bow at a music shop or at a luthier's for a decent price.
Sorry, but that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. You are 25 years old and a parent for gods sake. Do what you want, it's your life. Nobody can tell you what you are going to do or not. Seriously, if you have been playing piano for years and are in fact able to compose both orchestral and jazz, you are a bloody musician and can adapt to any instrument with a bit of practice. Are you from a very wealthy and conservative household or something? Either that or you word yourself rather badly and she only meant that she didn't want you to touch her stuff while she is gone, which is completely understandable.
In part, it was actually because someone asked Sarah if they were too old to start learning the Cello, that I made this video, a bit as living proof that and "old" person can do it as well. We agreed it would be better that an actual older beginner would talk about his experience, rather than a young (but excellent and wonderful) teacher say that several of her students are adult beginners. So, if this video helps people to overcome their doubt and makes them pick up the instrument they've been longing to learn for years (or learn any other skill, for that matter) without letting other people tell them they are too old, my mission is accomplished.
I started learning to play the violin when I was 53. I'm thinking about renting a cello to see how I like playing. I want to see if I have the strength in my hands to play it.
Hello😉 I'm playing the violin for about 8 years (I'm 16 now) and I find myself wondering if I would be even more happy with a cello. For almost two years I get sad when I see the celli in my orchestra. But I am not able to get violin AND cello lessons because of school and money...even though I would love to. Did anyone get through the same? What did you do? I wonder if it would be too late to learn the cello too but your video encouraged me. thank you very much. p.s. I hope my english ist understandable. Greetings from Germany
Congratulations! It is scarry to learn an instrument when you think you are old, but "it's never too late" it's a magic affirmation and mindset of the eternal youth. I guess by now you already have your new cello, I hope they sent it already adjusted, because in that rented one the bridge was misplaced (I saw the week 51 video too), I think might be important try to reach a cello teacher to help you adjust your cello, and maybe adjust a little bit your position. Also, don't practice on the coach! A chair from your table might be better. For those that happen to go to the comments in order to get answers to their doubts about wanting learn cello and don't have money for tutor, private lessons or buying a good cello: There are orchestras that have like social programs where they teach you and lend you the instrument for very little money, specially church or youth orchestras (I'm not that young but I'm learning at a youth orchestra and I play at a church orchestra). So there are no excuses of money or age, and you have to be aware that you have to dedicate at least 1 hour a day (in blocks of 15-20 minutes) to your daily practice to see improvement, trust me! You might think you might be a virtuoso but still you need to practice daily.
I actually never wondered about my age, but made this video in response to some websites claiming that once you were past childhood (or something), you were too old to learn the cello; and in response to some people I know telling me the same. I don't practice on the couch, but I understand why you might think so. The couch is right behind me in this (and several other videos), but I do use an ordinary and very simple chair.
Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us out here! I was luckier than you: I began studying the cello back in 1960 at the age of twelve (which was also the age -- if I am not in error -- at which Pablo Casals took up the instrument). I very much admire your determination and your openness to new experiences. Your account is thoroughly enjoyable...but I would have loved to hear you play something, too! On another topic: puisque vous vous appelez Jacques, je serais curieux de savoir si vous êtes Français (ou peut-être Canadien ou Belge). En tous cas, chapeau pour votre Anglais!
Hi David. Thank you for your feedback.There are several recordings of me playing the cello in my channel. Not many, but that is mainly due to two things: - I tend to focus on one piece at a time, and try to get it as good as possible - When hearing a recording, I tend to feel quite unhappy with the results, so I delete it and continue working on the melody ;-) In fact I am Belgian, but from the northern part of the country, where the common language is Dutch. French is my second language, English my third.
Just have a look at this playlist here: czcams.com/play/PLEiIQHCD3O97AporI0zgdaTPxvs7QlzSN.html Or this one: czcams.com/play/PLEiIQHCD3O97vDUhXFHVncoy8AOev_ruM.html
This is a 7 year old video, are you still playing? I'm 63, just finishing a four year engineering degree and plan to start learning the cello after my last exams - so I don't crash into a loss of purpose. Like many commenters here, I have a background in playing guitar for decades but the last decade has been transitioning to a righty. I was a lefty for 30 years until a severe crash forced me to change. Looking forward to the challenge.
Yes, I am. Not as regular as I would wish (daytime job and other responsibilities/excuses), but I'm still practicing and learning. I just don't make videos anymore (for now?) as that tends to take up time and tends to distract me.
I started the cello at 49. The only difference I have noticed from playing the flute in childhood, was I have to practice more and longer. Otherwise, I enjoy it immensely!
Compared to 14-year olds who have been learning the Cello since they were 5 or 6, you will have some catching up to do. Compared to someone who is just starting to learn the Cello, you will be at the same level. It all depends on what you wish to achieve and how much effort you are willing to put into that. Check out Emily Davidson's youtube channel. There is a video where she explains that she didn't start at 5 or 6, experienced some difficulties -yes, indeed- but how she persisted and made her own way. As far as I am concerned, she is one of the great young cellists, and her struggle is what made her the cellist she is today.
Young man, I started playing cello when I was 71.... and I practice every day for at least one hour. I make great progress and my tutor loves me because I am probably the only one of her students, that practices every day and shows up with real progress every class. It is totally ridiculous to believe that there is some age limit to starting something new in your life. And why do you want to reach a professional level? Leave that to the professionals. We make music because we love music and making music. Good enough for me.....
I’m 49 and just starting, it’s reading music that I’m struggling with, my cello teacher said I was dyslexic when it came to reading music, she didn’t have the patience. I’m trying to teach myself 🎻
Marcie c Don’t let a bad teacher, one that isn’t capable of adjusting to you, the student and to your needs, stop you. Reading sheet music is also something that I find difficult. It’s a whole new language you need to learn, but one that isn’t all about vocabulary and grammar, but one that is about tone, intonation and rythm. It takes time to learn that and a good teacher will approach your learning process with patience and flexibility.
Thank you for the encouragement. I (in my 40s) started cello few months ago because my young child is learning as well. Was hoping we can do more things together and improve our bonding. So far I am able to pick up a few songs, base on lessons/info from CZcams. However, my left hand gets numb after playing for 2 to 5 minutes. The fingers tinkled, appear blood circulation issue. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
My first recommendation would be that you go see a doctor about this, and perhaps also a physiotherapist. Your problem might jus be posture or tension related, but there might be more to to it, and it is best to have that checked. What you can try in the mean time is check for tension: your neck, shoulders, upper arm, elbow, lower arm, wrist, hand, fingers and thumb. For me, avoiding tension and relaxing while I play are the hardest things about playing the cello. Make sure you don't lift up your shoulders. Your wrist should be as straight as possible (no bends). Do not squeeze the neck of your cello: there is, of course some pressure needed to hold push down the strings, but this should be done without creating tension in your hand (I know, this is difficult). Jonathan Humphries has a youtube video focusing on where and how to place your thumb on the back of the neck. The video is meant to help you avoid squeaking, but it also helps to straighten the wrist: czcams.com/video/ITGJXAbet0I/video.html I hope this helps.
My Cello arrives in 5 days. No not a 3K toy just a good quality student version. I have been playing valved instruments since I was 10 or 11 I play 6 of them fairly well and have played with groups and larger bands over the years so I think I have a good handle on how to learn a new instrument and stay with it good or bad. But I will play for myself and nobody else matters after all. An artist dos care if you like their work in any field painting drawing or whatever it shall be. It only matters to them and if they are happy what else matters after all but your internal happiness. Many people forget some basic human emotions when giving advice out. First, one would, of course, be happiness. Are you too old learn any instrument well maybe and maybe not still have all the equipment god gave you and does it work and move fairly well? Then I say go for it and put some happiness in your life for you, and not anyone else. Just my 2 cents.
Yes, everybody can learn to play some pieces and it doesnt matter what age you are. The question is if you can become a professional and live off of it when you start learning a new instrument after becoming full adult like 30+ years old.
The actual question is if you enjoy learning a new instrument at whatever age you start with it. If the question were "will I still have enough time to get to a professional level", then anything we'd venture after a certain age would be deemed useless.
@@JacquesKinnaerCello For me there's no such thought that I couldnt enjoy learning any instrument after certain age if I'd want to. Everybody can enjoy learning to play it anytime it is psychological barrier for some people that they cant which I dont understand. Everybody can learn almost anything it depends on how bad you want it, if you're healthy. And I dont think hobbies like cello is useless after certain age. Maybe it's my perfectionism talking, nevermind. I played cello for 5 months but I had to quit it because I didnt have enough time for it, I wanted to play it more but just didnt have time. I thought about taking it very seriously but the price is just too big when you become a grown up. You'd need to play like 3-4h a day for like 4-5 years to get really good at it. When you work 8h a day it becomes nearly impossible. Ofcourse if one dont have such a urgent desire to become atleast semi pro then this hobbie is very very nice for an adult. Anyway, life is too complicated. You have to make priorities.
@@coldminded21 It's a shame that you gave up after only 5 months. I don't think that this is due to perfectionism (as I am a perfectionist too (?)), but rather to setting unrealistic goals. 3 to 4 hours a day for 4 to 5 years to get really good at it? If that is your expectation, then indeed, this is not feasible if you spend 8 hours on the job plus some time on the commute as well and on top have that, also have household obligations. And then you give up. Or you adapt your expectations to reality. You play/practice/study whenever you can and you see where that gets you. It's a matter of choice, expectations and perspective.
Not being a doctor nor a physiotherapist, I can't give a simple yes or no answer to your question. What I can do is give you a few general remarks about posture and how I use my body while practicing/playing. First of all, you'd need to be able to sit up (fairly) straight for the duration of your practice. Although you are not supposed to slouch, when playing closer to the bridge, you will lean forward over your instrument a bit, so that your left hand can reach the parts of the fingerboard closest to the bridge without having to stretch your arm. Then, although you are supposed to keep your shoulders, arms, wrists, hands and fingers relaxed, this may be quite difficult and not being able to do so can result in discomfort and pain. In your case, tension in the shoulders might impact the issues with your neck, so focusing on relaxing them would be even more essential. There are a few ways to make sure tension in your upper body in general does not become a problem: - several short practice sessions per day are better than one long one. In between sessions, move around a bit - stretching exercises before and after each session => in your case, do talk to a physiotherapist about this - micro-breaks during a practice session: stop your practice for a minute and focus on relaxing all the parts of your body that are tense - listen to your body: if you start feeling discomfort, your body is telling you it needs a break. Don't wait for the discomfort to become pain. What you could do is go see a physiotherapist, show him or her videos of different cellists playing and ask if this is something you could do too. You could also rent a cello and try it out, preferably with the assistance of your physiotherapist. There are several videos on youtube about posture when playing the cello, and while these are very interesting, you would need to find a posture that suites you best. I hope this has, in part, answered you question, but by all means, do see a physiotherapist about this question too.
The Cello in the videos thus far is a rental. I traded it in for a new one two weeks ago. I'll be making a comparison video (probably early next week) :-)
I can only encourage you to do so. It is a beautiful instrument and although it has been a while since you played it, I am sure that once you start again, it will al be coming back. Since you already have played the cello, perhaps it would be a good idea to go to a luthier and ask to be able to test several cellos (within your price range) to see which one you like best?
@@dianascott6046 Good. I don't have a brand cello. Mine was built by a local luthier. I first tried out a rental for a year, to see if I would enjoy learning to play the cello as much as I hoped, and after a year, I returned the rental and tried out 10 of the cellos he had ready. I drilled that down to two candidates, and then got in touch with my teacher over Skype. She asked me to play F and F# in several octaves, and we immediately found a very severe wolf on the one of them. Even adding a wolf eliminator didn't get rid of the wolf enough (which also explains why that cello was less expensive than the other candidate), so the choice was made for the other candidate. Also important is picking the right type of bow. I tried out 3 bows during my "rental" year: the one that came with the rental, but which broke (fault in the wood). I bought a new one in another shop (as the luthier where I rented was closed for the holidays) and in the process of buying that one, I also tried out several (tip: make sure you have your rosin with you when you go to a shop to try different bows). When my luthier was back, I traded in the broken bow for a carbon fibre. The carbon fibre is easier to handle, requires less effort and was better for mu wrist. But it sounded slightly different and so when I bought my cello, I decided to stick to the bow I had bought earlier.
@@JacquesKinnaerCello OK ty I thought of renting a chello then buy it or a cello I have listen to these I can't play them but I do have a ear as far as nice warm tone not a bright tone hmm maybe I should rent but soo expensive.
The idea you are too old to learn is completely stupid .. learning is a process that starts at any age or ends at any age .. that's up to the individual .. 99.99% of all young people who pick up any instrument will not become a master of the instrument .. pawn shops can confirm this .. it becomes a hobby of enjoyment .. once the enjoyment ends ..so does the hobby
Hi Radwa. There are several very good video tutorials on CZcams that can already help you on your way. I personally find Learn2PlayCello, Olga Redkina and Sarah Joy very helpful, and, like you, I tried for a few months to just go by the tutorials. Unfortunately, as good as these tutorials are, they cannot give you direct feedback about what you are doing, and that is where a private teacher comes in handy. I understand that in your country, it won't be easy to find a private Cello teacher. I solved a problem similar to that by signing up for private Cello lessons via Skype, making it not necessary for my teacher and me to be in the same country. My teacher is Sarah Joy, who lives in Texas while I live in Belgium. The only practical issue was the 7-hour time difference in which we needed to find a half hour per week that suited us both. The lessons via Skype go very well. We've been doing this once per week for almost 10 months now, and only two times did we need to disconnect and reconnect to get a better image and/or sound quality. An alternative to that would be to exchange videos. Your teacher provides you some instructions. You work on them, and make a recording where you show what you have learned and where you encounter problems. You provide that video to your teacher, who then makes a new set of instructions. I hope this helps :-)
Jacques Kinnaer thank you so much for ypur rapid response & the helpful advice , I think I can do the skype tutoring . may I ask how many hours do you practise per week ?
The Skype class with my teacher is 30 minutes per week. How much I practice per week has changed over time and also depends on how much time I have. My current schedule is as follows: on days that I go to work (Monday to Friday usually), I try to practice 1 hour every day. On days that I don't go to work and don't have any other things to do, I aim for 1 hour and a half every day. A single practice session is 15 minutes. I keep the sessions short because I found out that with longer sessions, I end up hurting my hands (especially the bow hand) which prevents me from practicing. So, depending on other activities, 4 to 6 times 15 minutes per day.
I cannot really compare the violin and the cello. Many, many years ago I gave the violin a try, but it was a very cheap violin and without the proper guidance, I gave up on it. Playing the violin is different from playing the cello, though: you (obviously) hold it in a different way, the bow hold is very different and the fingerboard is different as well (you start 1 octave + 1 quint higher on the violin, if I am not mistaken). There's only one way to find out :-)
Well, you already have your teacher then, and you are already experienced in playing a bow instrument, so with some adaptions, I'm sure you'll do fine :-)
I have played the cello, violin, and Piano and can tell you out of all 3 the cello is not a hard instrument to play. The piano on the other hand is 4 times harder and take 5x longer to master than the cello. Actually playing and reading music on a Piano is like reading 10 lines of text at the same time while fully comprehending what you are reading to make the music sound beautiful. The cello on the other hand is pretty simple that's like reading 2 lines of text while trying to get the best tone out of your string.
They think becoming a professional cellist is the only reason to learn to play it? Bahahaha. What's wrong with people wanting to challenge their brains by learning something new? Or maybe trying something they didn't have the opportunity to when they were a kid?
I have a 80 years old student
Living proof that one is never, ever to old to learn something new :-)
I am 71 take violin lessons getting ready for cello .
I am 55 and just bought my first cello
I bought my first instrument (a cello) when I was 60 .. don't let anyone tell you you are too old. Do it because you enjoy it.
I just had my 60th birthday and started learning cello 9 months ago. I'm doing very well, my instructor [ he's 37 yrs old] said he is awestruck how quickly I've progressed. I wanted this all my life love it! don't let anyone ever tell you, you can't learn something new because of your age.
i am 20 years old and i thought i was too old to start learning cello,you gave me awareness thank you
You are only old when you stop learning new things :-)
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I started learning cello at 64 so I started much later than Mr. Kinnaer. I am thoroughly enjoying my studies. So don't let your advancing age keep you from starting a musical instrument. The New Horizons International Music Association has a web site that lists groups in the USA, and some in other countries, geared for older adults. I play with the Salt Lake Valley New Horizons Orchestra in Utah. I have been with them since beginning cello.
I can only agree. Age should not keep one from starting to learn an instrument. No matter what you do, no matter at what age you start doing it, the most important thing is that you enjoy what you do :-)
Peg, that is awesome! I'm 50. Thank you for inspiring me!
You have me smiling here Peg! It's been almost 50 years since I last touched a cello.....played it for 2 years in school and loved every minute of it. My parents convinced me that music could do me no good in the future and switched me to typing :-( I've always had a yearning to get back to playing but I let life get in the way. Now, with retirement looming this year I have started to look for the perfect cello so I can resume my passion for the instrument and the magnificent sound it makes. Thanks for your inspiration Peg!
I'm 64 and debating daily if I should start and I'm torturing myself over what i can afford, should I do it, can I do it. I'm afraid I won't stick with it and I've never played anything in my life.
@@JacquesKinnaerCello I just got my first cello this week and I'm 69! Wanted one for 3/4 years, decided surviving a second lock down in the uk depended on being focused. couldn't think if anything better to focus on than learning to play the cello.
Another advantage to starting with the cello as an adult, is that you will be used to learning new things. You know what is needed to learn things, and your mind (a bit like a muscle) is trained to do that. You no longer need to learn how to learn and this will make learning something new, easier.
Jacques Kinnaer Thos is so true. I had my first lesson on January 31, 2019 at the age 52. It has been a delight to experience being a beginner again.
I started lessons at 32, made good progress and passed ARBM grade 5 in 2 years. Have now been playing for 50 years!
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I love this. I'm 38 and I just started learning cello a month ago. I'm struggling. But, I love it
Thank you, Rachel. Indeed, learning the Cello is not easy. But part of the fun is in the struggle, or rather in the accomplishment after the struggle. Good luck, but above all, enjoy your practice :-)
Rachel Engel im 40 and im about to start cello lessons.
You should make some videos to show your progress.
Hi Rachel, are you still learning cello? Because I am 38 , and I want to learning cello next month.
@@wishyouwerehere1982 I actually bought my own cello.. but.. life happens and I havent played in 2 years. Maybe lazy, maybe something else. But someday ill.pick it up again. I wish you best of luck and enjoy your learning journey
I am 64 years old, and just started playing the cello a little over 3 months ago. I have played guitar all my life, and was hopeful some of that skill would carry over. It has carried over big-time. The fingering is actually no problem for me. Mastering the bow is another story, but I'm getting there. As an adult, I find I'm much smarter about how to practice, more demanding of myself, and more motivated. In three months I'm already doing slurs, shifts, and vibrato, and I'm actually playing some songs that are starting to sound quite good. Make no mistake, I work hard at this every day for an hour or more, but it's coming along nicely (I'm way ahead of the guy in the video). My teacher has been quite amazed at my progress. So the answer is absolutely -- you are not too old to learn the cello. I may not be able to play in a symphony orchestra, but I expect to be playing solos at church within another 3 months (and I'm musician enough that it has to sound very good or I won't do it, but I'm on track to get there.) DO IT! It's not too late!
we also appreciate the discipline demanded for learning an instrument while learning guitar.
I am 67 and also played guitar since I was 14. There were decades where I stopped due to family commitments but then picked it up again and started playing in a band. I always loved the cello and have a place in my heart for classical music. At this point I have never even held a cello but have decided to learn how to play it. I feel my musical experience will help. It must be difficult for one to learn when they are not even familiar with scales and notes.
I am 71 in May and bought a 100 year old German instrument last week that I had been looking at for some time. I have been studying Classical guitar for some years and made the plunge when I started to work on transcriptions of Bach's cello Suite. Like this gentleman I am gleaning information on You Tube. Next will be to start lessons . So there.
Thank you for sharing. Love the honesty. I’m 53 and just started learning cello a few weeks ago. No huge expectations but to learn to play it the best way I can.
Thanks for your video 🙏. I m 56 , i m a piano teacher. During 7 years, i played violin, but I decided one day to start to Learn cello...After a visit to my luthier. I don t regret. To play cello is wonderful 🎻😊
Thank you for your words, I feel what you say is transferable to a lot in life and they have really helped me, thank you :)
Indeed, it does apply to everything in life.
Nothing stops the will of learning so thank for being so inspiring . Tony
Thanks for this Jacques. I’m 67 with a background in guitar and have decided to learn to play the cello. I am familiar with the conventions of music. Notes, scales, etc so I’m not worried about any of that. I’m more concerned with mastering technique but life is for learning and mine is far from over. You make a lot of sense. Adults approach learning a new instrument with more, well, maturity.
I am a piano teacher aged 32 and I've been playing cello as my second instrument for 6 years now. I took ABRSM exam grade 5 last year and now I continue self-studying under supervisions of a pro cellist friend. I'm so happy learning the cello, I joined a string orchestra in another music school, and created a decent accoustic band which includes string quartet. Sometimes I also play in a quartet setting with friends (two violins and one viola), and play for church services or commercially for any events
I too have had this experience at 43, but with the violin, you're never to old and in fact, the older u get, the more you'll appreciate the experience of perfecting yourself on the instrument of your choice
Hola. I am 54 now and I started to play cello 5 years ago. Now I have lots of fun doing "loops" with a bass guitar and some guitar efectos and I play my cello acompañado por los loops that I do.... Every thing very simple, very "beginer", but very satisfyng... (perdón por mi inglés) :)
Thank you for this... im 29 i work as a supervisor at a casino here in Arizona and i want to learn how to play the cello been thinking about it for some years and your words just gave me hope thank you...
It's not a question. Go for it. Success depends on your expectations and dedication. When I started cello a few years after retirement, it was because I wanted a challenge, and knew I wanted my effort to be with the most beautiful instrument. I define success as being able to learn - there's always more to it. Keys have been finding the right teacher and finding satisfaction in practicing and learning. Playing the cello seems to be the hardest thing I've ever done, and it's just that rewarding. There are books about different people's adventures starting music as an adult. A most pertinent is John Holt, Never too late.
I'm 37 and just picked cello back up. I played it for a year in middle school, so trying again after 25 years is basically like starting over. I'm enjoying it so far.
Thank YOU! I'm turning 45 and I want to start learning how to play the cello, it's a dream of mine, and I really was asking myself "am I too old?" So grateful for your wisdom ☺
Thank you for your feedback :-) The question about age and learning to play the cello is actually not really a relevant one. Age doesn't have to do with it. You'll only find out if learning the cello is "your thing" by giving it a good, passionate go :-)
And that goes for any dream that you have and are trying to fulfil. I've found that people telling me that I'm too old for this, are quite often people who are afraid to dream, afraid to follow their dreams and perhaps even somewhat envious of all those that do follow their dreams. So don't let such people hold you back :-)
Am 33 years old and it's my dream to play the cello but I was afraid that I can't and now thanx to you I will do it and make my dream come true 💙💙💙💙
You are giving me hope! Thank you so much💖
53.. started at Christmas, Played with my church group for Easter mass... Love it and practice everyday..
Started when I was about to turn 30 and I love it!
It's not about your age; it's about your love for music.
I appreciate this i just purchased a cello. I fell in love with its sound and am completely moved when I hear people play. I am 33 and was so nervous about not being able to learn I bought an electric one so no one would hear. It hasn't even arrived and I started to second guess the purchase. Thank you I will sign up for classes and give it a try.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic. Similar to you, I started playing the cello almost a year ago at the age of 46. Learning and playing the cello has been very rewarding. Best of luck to you and I hope you continue to enjoy it as much as I do.
Thank you :-)
Thank you so much for sharing. That is my wish and I will play the cello. Thank you!
I'll be 65 this year and I've been watching videos and reading about cello's and struggling with the idea of learning. I live alone on a fixed income and spent most of my time alone so I've been debating this choice for a long time now. I know people tend to look at age as an end point and anyone over a certain age is old but we all find out, I think, that you don't feel any different at my age than I did at 21. But coodination changes and with too much sitting on the couch and you physically become much older than you are. Anyway, thanks for this video. It gives hope.
Absolutely. Young of mind, it is my body that is old.
Your video was PRECISELY the one I needed to find tonight... as I await the delivery of my own cello in a few days :-) ... THANKS !
My pleasure :-) Enjoy your Cello studies ...
Thank you so much for your video. I am 33 and a few weeks back, i decided to pick up the cello. I'm still in the process of buying one, but honestly can't wait to get started. Thank you for the inspiration.
Whoever says you are too old to start learning any instrument, is completely full of s**t.
Learning an instrument is one of the best things to keep your mind active and stimulated. In fact it should be always RECOMMENDED to people to learn an instrument, despite their age.
You’re never too old. Ignore these elitist comments and enjoy your cello. You have many happy years to improve and enjoy it. 😎
Sue Pritchard That is indeed how i see it. 👍🙂
Thank you for sharing your story and the encouragement you have to offer. I read that an advantage of learning as an adult is that you have much better muscle control than a child does. Anyway, I hope to begin learning soon.
Hi. I am 66 one month ago I started yo learn the cello. It Is very gratiful.
Thank you for inspiring me and others.
If you played an instrument as a child, at least for a year, you can learn any other instrument later, no doubt I used to play piano as a child, then I started cello at 39 and now, after 8 years, I'm a professional cello player. Good luck!
mausol69 I have played the piano and the recorder since I was 8 , and I started to learn cello properly almost 2 years ago (now I'm 19) I'm putting a lot of effort to improve as fastest as I can because I love the cello.
But I was worried about to continue studying the cello or not... I really want to play it professionally.
Your comment made me get more confidence again, thank you so much.
I will be 80 in about one month. I got a cello about three months ago. Because I have a totally severed muscle in my rotator cuff my initial playing time was limited to a couple of minutes and by couple I really do mean two minutes. The A string is a killer but I can extend my time by sticking to tunes on the lower strings or using the heel of the bow on the A string. No lessons. I really can’t see paying for lessons spent massaging my shoulder.
I am making fair progress. I’m even learning to read bass clef. I used to play early music on the recorder so I can rest the treble clef pretty good. I started fiddling when I was about 69 so I can handle a bow pretty good.
I have two addictions, coffee and the cello and am buying a five string fiddle so I can play the same notes (in different octaves of course) on both instruments. The notes are a finger width apart on the fiddle and two (wide) finger widths apart on the cello. My mind makes the switch without too much thinking.
I play both Irish session tunes and some early music recorder tunes on the cello.
I really am a cello junkie
Kudos for starting with the Cello despite the physical problems that you are having. The A string is indeed a hard one, especially if you play closer to the tip.
I have often said to the mrs that I could do with a nice massage while practicing, but it's not as practical as one might hope ;-)
In my case recovery is quick in the beginning but gradually takes longer. My deltoids seem to be trying to do the job of the supraspinatus, which is the severed muscle. Squeezing them helps also massaging a tendon that runs down to the bicep, which I learned about during physical therapy when it first happened. In about a half an hour I’m getting up, making coffee, taking my meds (blood pressure and statins) and starting my practice while it’s very quiet. No complaints from my neighbors. I can be heard in the hall but not upstairs or downstairs. I’ll quit around five, sleep until ten and start my day. I play my fiddle at a Thursday evening session and lug my cello to a Saturday beginner’s session. The high points of my week. When I started my shoulder was so overwhelmed that I’d lose control of the bow. Now I can usually tough it out to the end of the piece. Sorry to babble so much. You’d think I’d be tired but I’m wide awake, waiting to get started.
Bless you. When people say they are old and they are only fifty I despair. Then you wrote here and I am even a year younger than you (79) so here goes; I'm gonna buy a cello.
Started violin age 29. Just last week, I started cello. I am 74. Work every day on the cello has done wonders for my viola and violin. And I am finding out where the notes are on the cello. I play by ear.
I started @ 50. I rented and took lessons for 2 months and learned that I could do this so I bought one and am getting better with every year.
The only regret is the size of the instrument!😳
I'm 66 years old. I learn violin as a child. At age 20, I put it down for 40 years while life had other requirements. Six years ago, my granddaughter took me to a school concert led by a guy named Mark Wood. Never heard of him, but I went. In the hall of the mountain king played over Born to be Wild was the coolest thing I ever heard. I have practiced regularly since. In January this year, I injured my left shoulder. I could not hold my violin for more that about 3 minutes. Last month, I rented a cello to see if different muscles are used. They are. We're a month in and having a ball learning new things. Just found Sarah Joy this week. Really good stuff there. Old guys CAN learn cello.
Thanks Steve. The way I see it, age has nothing to do with learning the Cello. Or anything, for that matter. It is all about commitment and enjoying what you are doing :-)
Some nice wisdom here!
I found my way here from Sarah Joy. I am looking forward to learning the cello in the semi-near future. Thank you for an inspiring video!
+Erica Goehring Thank you for your comment. I hope you will enjoy learning the cello at least as much as I do. You've already found Sarah Joy, she's a wonderful teacher with a very contagious enthusiasm, so go ahead and give it a try :-)
I'm 68 now, and started learning the cello 19mths ago. I'd 'dabbled' with various instruments over the years, but my experience was as good as insignificant, so in effect I was a total beginner. I rented a student cello (Stentor) from a music shop in Brighton, UK for the first 3mths. I had (still have) weekly lessons, and though progress was slow I enjoyed the learning process. I decided to commit myself more fully, so bought a new cello from the same shop. A good move because it was a much better instrument and bow - a nicer sound despite my scratchings and scrapings!
A problem with my left hand effectively stopped me playing 7mths ago, so I sold the cello and bought a left-handed one (fortunately I can bow OK with my left hand). Being naturally left handed might have helped, but I'm happier playing this way round than before the change over. I'm now playing simple versions of folk tunes, well known parts of classical pieces, as well as learning scales, bowing techniques, sight-reading of music and all the other components of playing.
I've decided not to take exams because formalised progress doesn't interest me. There are a couple of local amateur orchestras that I might be able to join in a while, but I have no particular goal in that direction either. My wife plays piano so we can always make our own music when I feel confident enough. I'll see what comes along, but in the meantime I simply enjoy learning to make better sounds with this wonderful instrument. The pleasure I get from simply playing some scales accurately, or playing a tune or two and getting most of the notes right is hard to express. Getting other things right (or at least improving), such as bow grip, bow pressure, slurring notes can be immensely frustrating, but highly enjoyable and so rewarding when they come together. And it does come - just don't make it hard work.
In short, whatever your age, if you fancy trying the cello then go for it. It's a phenomenal instrument, and what I love is that you physically embrace it as you play - a lovely feeling. Many places rent them (it was costing me £25/month). Have a few lessons. You don't have to break the bank to find out whether you like it or not. As an additional incentive for older people, I believe that learning to play not only keeps the brain active, but actually develops it, and hopefully helps to keep the dreaded dementia at bay, We'll see.
Thank you very much for this video! It’s really inspiring ❤️
thank you for this inspiration... i look forward to getting my own cello...
Wonderful. I am sure you will enjoy the experience :-)
That’s true. Nobody is too old to learn anything. I don’t know who started that concept but telling anyone “you’re too old “ for something is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. When I was young, my mom told me to learn piano because It was “easier” but I always wanted a violin. So when I got older I got myself a violin. I’m 43 and love learning to play musical instruments. The Cello will be next. Congratulations on being bold. As Capt kirk from Star Trek said: [….To boldly go where no one has gone before…]
And in my case, not just boldly going, but baldly as well ;-) Like Capt. Picard :-)
Indeed. A statement that "one is too old" to do something, is indeed the stupidest thing. Yet I have found it on the Internet and a few people I know also told me. It probably comes from people who are themselves afraid to try and do something new, to explore their talents and who then when to discourage others from doing this. Nearing 6 years into my cello adventure, I am still enjoying both the learning process and the results so far.
As to your mom's statement that piano is "easier": each instrument, including voice, comes with its own difficulties and each of them takes talent and even more dedication and effort to learn them.
@@JacquesKinnaerCello What she meant by that was because as my left hand used to be paralyzed but still tricky, I may not be able to hold it. So she thought that with a piano, it would be easier so I wouldn’t have to force it.
Well said! So proud of you!
Thank you :-)
Wonderful video!
I am 26, my husband has played violin since he was 4. The cello has been my favorite instrument for several years, but back in college (my degree was music education, vocal track) I had to do a violin solo recording. My husband says I sounded good for how little I had been playing (a one semester class where it felt like we barely played) but I really thought it sounded like a dying cat!! The position of the cello was much more natural but in the course I only got to play it a couple times :( Yesterday I just randomly had this great urge to get a cello so I can play with my husband. We are going to see if there are any duets with a challenging violin part but an easy cello one. Or he may write us a few pieces :) Hoping not to be discouraged- it may be hard with such a talented string player here but every time I hear the cello I just feel swept away!!
You are likely to have moments of discouragement. I sure had them, and I don't doubt there will be some more ahead. Discouragement can help you reflect on what is not going well, according to you and gives you an opportunity to work on that. Patience is key. And so is "forgiving your mistakes". Most of all, though, enjoy the learning process and not only the results.
Jacques Kinnaer, so inspiring your video is and ... yes im totally agree. i just started 4 days ago and i enjoy it very much. don't care how old I am , as long as i still have breath its mean im young and i enjoy it.
Thank you for your reply. I hope you keep enjoying the Cello. It can be frustrating at times, but it is much more rewarding and well worth it.
So I am 25 years old and my adoptive mom plays the cello. She has a great cello and there was another cello student grade that was in a bag case.. so I decided to bring the student cello out when my parents traveled out to New Orleans, La this past week. Sadly I couldn't play it because I couldn't find the bow, but I left it out on the cello stand that had been in the bag case. My parents come back today, my mom noticed that cello was out.. I said "Oh yes, I was going to play it but I couldn't find the bow and I didn't want to use your bow." Then she tells me before leaving the house with my dad to a dinner somewhere, "You're not going to play the cello." Now I have a history a piano lessons for years and didn't practice really well, but I still could play and compose music that was orchestral and various types of jazz. I produced starting as a 7th grader and onward. I also played Trombone which I was pretty good at, still had the practice problem, although I still got first chair in my High School jazz band and I enjoyed playing the Trombone with a community orchestra. So in my mind I would like to try to play the cello, I find it could be a great adventure. Yet I do have a just recently turned 1 year old daughter and living at home with my parents being a stay at home mom, my Fiance is living and working to support his little family... It is tough, but I still want to truly try this. Is my mom right?
There's only one way to find out of playing the Cello is "your thing", and that's by giving it a go. We all have busy schedules some way or the other (school, work, household, ...), and we all have to figure out a way to fit our Cello practice into that schedule.
I am sure that you can find a decent quality bow at a music shop or at a luthier's for a decent price.
Sorry, but that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. You are 25 years old and a parent for gods sake. Do what you want, it's your life. Nobody can tell you what you are going to do or not. Seriously, if you have been playing piano for years and are in fact able to compose both orchestral and jazz, you are a bloody musician and can adapt to any instrument with a bit of practice. Are you from a very wealthy and conservative household or something? Either that or you word yourself rather badly and she only meant that she didn't want you to touch her stuff while she is gone, which is completely understandable.
Oh my you're famous! I randomly arrived here via Sarah Joy's video. Haha! Nice to see a fellow adult beginner cellists from our forum👍🏻👍🏻
In part, it was actually because someone asked Sarah if they were too old to start learning the Cello, that I made this video, a bit as living proof that and "old" person can do it as well. We agreed it would be better that an actual older beginner would talk about his experience, rather than a young (but excellent and wonderful) teacher say that several of her students are adult beginners.
So, if this video helps people to overcome their doubt and makes them pick up the instrument they've been longing to learn for years (or learn any other skill, for that matter) without letting other people tell them they are too old, my mission is accomplished.
I've been playing the violin for 11 years and I bang out a little bit on the organ.
I'm thinking about learn cello
I am 72, going blind and learning cello so I don't really think you are too old.
Great advice, Jacques!
I really like the way you express yourself! Very useful for English learners
I hope they won't take it as an example, lest they want people to wonder why they sound like a Belgian failing at an English accent :-D
I started learning to play the violin when I was 53. I'm thinking about renting a cello to see how I like playing. I want to see if I have the strength in my hands to play it.
I love your videos please continue doing them :)
It all depends on your talent level that's with any instrument some people have it some people don't and some people take a little longer than others.
Thank you very much for this encouraging video
Thank you :-)
thanks!!
I know I can learn these instruments but my only thing is I wonder if I could ever be in an orchestra.
Papyrus Senpai There is only one way to find out. 🙂
Thank you, very inspirational!
Thank you for your feedback :-)
I started learning cello at 39. I could do a 3 octave C scale after three years. I had a teacher the entire time. Make sure you have weekly lessons!
I'm 74. just started cello. Started violin at 29.
Enjoy!
love this! thankyou
I've just started to learn to play the cello at 69. I'll never be any good, but I enjoy the experience.
The journey is often more important than the destination. Besides, never say never. Who knows what time and dedication may bring?
Great video!
Hello😉
I'm playing the violin for about 8 years (I'm 16 now) and I find myself wondering if I would be even more happy with a cello. For almost two years I get sad when I see the celli in my orchestra. But I am not able to get violin AND cello lessons because of school and money...even though I would love to. Did anyone get through the same? What did you do?
I wonder if it would be too late to learn the cello too but your video encouraged me. thank you very much.
p.s. I hope my english ist understandable. Greetings from Germany
I waited until I was 71. Problem solved.
Congratulations! It is scarry to learn an instrument when you think you are old, but "it's never too late" it's a magic affirmation and mindset of the eternal youth.
I guess by now you already have your new cello, I hope they sent it already adjusted, because in that rented one the bridge was misplaced (I saw the week 51 video too), I think might be important try to reach a cello teacher to help you adjust your cello, and maybe adjust a little bit your position. Also, don't practice on the coach! A chair from your table might be better.
For those that happen to go to the comments in order to get answers to their doubts about wanting learn cello and don't have money for tutor, private lessons or buying a good cello: There are orchestras that have like social programs where they teach you and lend you the instrument for very little money, specially church or youth orchestras (I'm not that young but I'm learning at a youth orchestra and I play at a church orchestra). So there are no excuses of money or age, and you have to be aware that you have to dedicate at least 1 hour a day (in blocks of 15-20 minutes) to your daily practice to see improvement, trust me! You might think you might be a virtuoso but still you need to practice daily.
I actually never wondered about my age, but made this video in response to some websites claiming that once you were past childhood (or something), you were too old to learn the cello; and in response to some people I know telling me the same.
I don't practice on the couch, but I understand why you might think so. The couch is right behind me in this (and several other videos), but I do use an ordinary and very simple chair.
THANK YOU!!
This is inspiring. Thank you :)
Thank *you* :-)
Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us out here! I was luckier than you: I began studying the cello back in 1960 at the age of twelve (which was also the age -- if I am not in error -- at which Pablo Casals took up the instrument). I very much admire your determination and your openness to new experiences. Your account is thoroughly enjoyable...but I would have loved to hear you play something, too!
On another topic: puisque vous vous appelez Jacques, je serais curieux de savoir si vous êtes Français (ou peut-être Canadien ou Belge). En tous cas, chapeau pour votre Anglais!
Hi David. Thank you for your feedback.There are several recordings of me playing the cello in my channel. Not many, but that is mainly due to two things:
- I tend to focus on one piece at a time, and try to get it as good as possible
- When hearing a recording, I tend to feel quite unhappy with the results, so I delete it and continue working on the melody
;-)
In fact I am Belgian, but from the northern part of the country, where the common language is Dutch. French is my second language, English my third.
Just have a look at this playlist here: czcams.com/play/PLEiIQHCD3O97AporI0zgdaTPxvs7QlzSN.html
Or this one: czcams.com/play/PLEiIQHCD3O97vDUhXFHVncoy8AOev_ruM.html
This is a 7 year old video, are you still playing? I'm 63, just finishing a four year engineering degree and plan to start learning the cello after my last exams - so I don't crash into a loss of purpose. Like many commenters here, I have a background in playing guitar for decades but the last decade has been transitioning to a righty. I was a lefty for 30 years until a severe crash forced me to change. Looking forward to the challenge.
Yes, I am. Not as regular as I would wish (daytime job and other responsibilities/excuses), but I'm still practicing and learning. I just don't make videos anymore (for now?) as that tends to take up time and tends to distract me.
I started the cello at 49. The only difference I have noticed from playing the flute in childhood, was I have to practice more and longer. Otherwise, I enjoy it immensely!
Same here, age-wise :-) Still enjoying it. Perhaps because, at least in part, the journey has become as interesting as the destination :-)
My Sisters says i'm go old to learn the Cello and says you need to learn a Instrument as a Child....
btw I'm 14
Compared to 14-year olds who have been learning the Cello since they were 5 or 6, you will have some catching up to do. Compared to someone who is just starting to learn the Cello, you will be at the same level. It all depends on what you wish to achieve and how much effort you are willing to put into that. Check out Emily Davidson's youtube channel. There is a video where she explains that she didn't start at 5 or 6, experienced some difficulties -yes, indeed- but how she persisted and made her own way. As far as I am concerned, she is one of the great young cellists, and her struggle is what made her the cellist she is today.
Jacques Kinnaer thank you!
Young man, I started playing cello when I was 71.... and I practice every day for at least one hour. I make great progress and my tutor loves me because I am probably the only one of her students, that practices every day and shows up with real progress every class. It is totally ridiculous to believe that there is some age limit to starting something new in your life. And why do you want to reach a professional level? Leave that to the professionals. We make music because we love music and making music. Good enough for me.....
I could not agree more!
If you honestly think you are: YOU ARE. But, if you honestly think "Damn the torpedoes," you are once again old enough to learn.
Amen to that, Jim :-)
I’m 49 and just starting, it’s reading music that I’m struggling with, my cello teacher said I was dyslexic when it came to reading music, she didn’t have the patience. I’m trying to teach myself 🎻
Marcie c Don’t let a bad teacher, one that isn’t capable of adjusting to you, the student and to your needs, stop you. Reading sheet music is also something that I find difficult. It’s a whole new language you need to learn, but one that isn’t all about vocabulary and grammar, but one that is about tone, intonation and rythm. It takes time to learn that and a good teacher will approach your learning process with patience and flexibility.
Jacques Kinnaer thank you 😊
Thank you for the encouragement.
I (in my 40s) started cello few months ago because my young child is learning as well. Was hoping we can do more things together and improve our bonding.
So far I am able to pick up a few songs, base on lessons/info from CZcams. However, my left hand gets numb after playing for 2 to 5 minutes. The fingers tinkled, appear blood circulation issue. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
My first recommendation would be that you go see a doctor about this, and perhaps also a physiotherapist. Your problem might jus be posture or tension related, but there might be more to to it, and it is best to have that checked.
What you can try in the mean time is check for tension: your neck, shoulders, upper arm, elbow, lower arm, wrist, hand, fingers and thumb. For me, avoiding tension and relaxing while I play are the hardest things about playing the cello. Make sure you don't lift up your shoulders. Your wrist should be as straight as possible (no bends). Do not squeeze the neck of your cello: there is, of course some pressure needed to hold push down the strings, but this should be done without creating tension in your hand (I know, this is difficult).
Jonathan Humphries has a youtube video focusing on where and how to place your thumb on the back of the neck. The video is meant to help you avoid squeaking, but it also helps to straighten the wrist: czcams.com/video/ITGJXAbet0I/video.html
I hope this helps.
My Cello arrives in 5 days. No not a 3K toy just a good quality student version. I have been playing valved instruments since I was 10 or 11 I play 6 of them fairly well and have played with groups and larger bands over the years so I think I have a good handle on how to learn a new instrument and stay with it good or bad. But I will play for myself and nobody else matters after all. An artist dos care if you like their work in any field painting drawing or whatever it shall be. It only matters to them and if they are happy what else matters after all but your internal happiness. Many people forget some basic human emotions when giving advice out. First, one would, of course, be happiness. Are you too old learn any instrument well maybe and maybe not still have all the equipment god gave you and does it work and move fairly well? Then I say go for it and put some happiness in your life for you, and not anyone else. Just my 2 cents.
Yes, everybody can learn to play some pieces and it doesnt matter what age you are. The question is if you can become a professional and live off of it when you start learning a new instrument after becoming full adult like 30+ years old.
The actual question is if you enjoy learning a new instrument at whatever age you start with it. If the question were "will I still have enough time to get to a professional level", then anything we'd venture after a certain age would be deemed useless.
@@JacquesKinnaerCello For me there's no such thought that I couldnt enjoy learning any instrument after certain age if I'd want to. Everybody can enjoy learning to play it anytime it is psychological barrier for some people that they cant which I dont understand. Everybody can learn almost anything it depends on how bad you want it, if you're healthy. And I dont think hobbies like cello is useless after certain age. Maybe it's my perfectionism talking, nevermind. I played cello for 5 months but I had to quit it because I didnt have enough time for it, I wanted to play it more but just didnt have time. I thought about taking it very seriously but the price is just too big when you become a grown up. You'd need to play like 3-4h a day for like 4-5 years to get really good at it. When you work 8h a day it becomes nearly impossible. Ofcourse if one dont have such a urgent desire to become atleast semi pro then this hobbie is very very nice for an adult. Anyway, life is too complicated. You have to make priorities.
@@coldminded21 It's a shame that you gave up after only 5 months. I don't think that this is due to perfectionism (as I am a perfectionist too (?)), but rather to setting unrealistic goals. 3 to 4 hours a day for 4 to 5 years to get really good at it? If that is your expectation, then indeed, this is not feasible if you spend 8 hours on the job plus some time on the commute as well and on top have that, also have household obligations. And then you give up.
Or you adapt your expectations to reality. You play/practice/study whenever you can and you see where that gets you. It's a matter of choice, expectations and perspective.
If I have neck issues will this instrument be difficult for me to play?
Not being a doctor nor a physiotherapist, I can't give a simple yes or no answer to your question. What I can do is give you a few general remarks about posture and how I use my body while practicing/playing.
First of all, you'd need to be able to sit up (fairly) straight for the duration of your practice. Although you are not supposed to slouch, when playing closer to the bridge, you will lean forward over your instrument a bit, so that your left hand can reach the parts of the fingerboard closest to the bridge without having to stretch your arm.
Then, although you are supposed to keep your shoulders, arms, wrists, hands and fingers relaxed, this may be quite difficult and not being able to do so can result in discomfort and pain. In your case, tension in the shoulders might impact the issues with your neck, so focusing on relaxing them would be even more essential. There are a few ways to make sure tension in your upper body in general does not become a problem:
- several short practice sessions per day are better than one long one. In between sessions, move around a bit
- stretching exercises before and after each session => in your case, do talk to a physiotherapist about this
- micro-breaks during a practice session: stop your practice for a minute and focus on relaxing all the parts of your body that are tense
- listen to your body: if you start feeling discomfort, your body is telling you it needs a break. Don't wait for the discomfort to become pain.
What you could do is go see a physiotherapist, show him or her videos of different cellists playing and ask if this is something you could do too. You could also rent a cello and try it out, preferably with the assistance of your physiotherapist.
There are several videos on youtube about posture when playing the cello, and while these are very interesting, you would need to find a posture that suites you best.
I hope this has, in part, answered you question, but by all means, do see a physiotherapist about this question too.
I like the way you talk :)
I finally started at 28 after spending most of my life on guitar
started during 8-9 and I am in 7th grade now
Could you talk about your cello? It's beautiful
The Cello in the videos thus far is a rental. I traded it in for a new one two weeks ago. I'll be making a comparison video (probably early next week) :-)
pour s'en servir de canne non personne n'est trop vieux
I played in school I stopped and I had my 60rh birthday and I wanted to go back i want to buy one any opions? Thankyou
I can only encourage you to do so. It is a beautiful instrument and although it has been a while since you played it, I am sure that once you start again, it will al be coming back.
Since you already have played the cello, perhaps it would be a good idea to go to a luthier and ask to be able to test several cellos (within your price range) to see which one you like best?
@@JacquesKinnaerCello thankyou !!
@@JacquesKinnaerCello iam checking out a eastman concv 2015 .amati sacconi 2012 or a Vienna strings Frankfurt
@@dianascott6046 Good. I don't have a brand cello. Mine was built by a local luthier. I first tried out a rental for a year, to see if I would enjoy learning to play the cello as much as I hoped, and after a year, I returned the rental and tried out 10 of the cellos he had ready. I drilled that down to two candidates, and then got in touch with my teacher over Skype. She asked me to play F and F# in several octaves, and we immediately found a very severe wolf on the one of them. Even adding a wolf eliminator didn't get rid of the wolf enough (which also explains why that cello was less expensive than the other candidate), so the choice was made for the other candidate.
Also important is picking the right type of bow. I tried out 3 bows during my "rental" year: the one that came with the rental, but which broke (fault in the wood). I bought a new one in another shop (as the luthier where I rented was closed for the holidays) and in the process of buying that one, I also tried out several (tip: make sure you have your rosin with you when you go to a shop to try different bows). When my luthier was back, I traded in the broken bow for a carbon fibre. The carbon fibre is easier to handle, requires less effort and was better for mu wrist. But it sounded slightly different and so when I bought my cello, I decided to stick to the bow I had bought earlier.
@@JacquesKinnaerCello OK ty I thought of renting a chello then buy it or a cello I have listen to these I can't play them but I do have a ear as far as nice warm tone not a bright tone hmm maybe I should rent but soo expensive.
The idea you are too old to learn is completely stupid .. learning is a process that starts at any age or ends at any age .. that's up to the individual .. 99.99% of all young people who pick up any instrument will not become a master of the instrument .. pawn shops can confirm this .. it becomes a hobby of enjoyment .. once the enjoyment ends ..so does the hobby
Hi , can I use only websites to learn or CZcams videos or must I use a
private tutor ? it is really hard to find one in my country .
Hi Radwa. There are several very good video tutorials on CZcams that can already help you on your way. I personally find Learn2PlayCello, Olga Redkina and Sarah Joy very helpful, and, like you, I tried for a few months to just go by the tutorials.
Unfortunately, as good as these tutorials are, they cannot give you direct feedback about what you are doing, and that is where a private teacher comes in handy. I understand that in your country, it won't be easy to find a private Cello teacher. I solved a problem similar to that by signing up for private Cello lessons via Skype, making it not necessary for my teacher and me to be in the same country.
My teacher is Sarah Joy, who lives in Texas while I live in Belgium. The only practical issue was the 7-hour time difference in which we needed to find a half hour per week that suited us both. The lessons via Skype go very well. We've been doing this once per week for almost 10 months now, and only two times did we need to disconnect and reconnect to get a better image and/or sound quality.
An alternative to that would be to exchange videos. Your teacher provides you some instructions. You work on them, and make a recording where you show what you have learned and where you encounter problems. You provide that video to your teacher, who then makes a new set of instructions.
I hope this helps :-)
Jacques Kinnaer thank you so much for ypur rapid response & the helpful advice , I think I can do the skype tutoring . may I ask how many hours do you practise per week ?
The Skype class with my teacher is 30 minutes per week.
How much I practice per week has changed over time and also depends on how much time I have. My current schedule is as follows: on days that I go to work (Monday to Friday usually), I try to practice 1 hour every day. On days that I don't go to work and don't have any other things to do, I aim for 1 hour and a half every day.
A single practice session is 15 minutes. I keep the sessions short because I found out that with longer sessions, I end up hurting my hands (especially the bow hand) which prevents me from practicing. So, depending on other activities, 4 to 6 times 15 minutes per day.
I play violin but will give a try on cello but is it too hard?
I cannot really compare the violin and the cello. Many, many years ago I gave the violin a try, but it was a very cheap violin and without the proper guidance, I gave up on it. Playing the violin is different from playing the cello, though: you (obviously) hold it in a different way, the bow hold is very different and the fingerboard is different as well (you start 1 octave + 1 quint higher on the violin, if I am not mistaken).
There's only one way to find out :-)
really? next year my sis will be teaching me the cello hope its good to go. anyways thanks for your response
Well, you already have your teacher then, and you are already experienced in playing a bow instrument, so with some adaptions, I'm sure you'll do fine :-)
Jacques, are you still playing?
Yes, I am. The frequency at which I record is much lower than when I first started out, so I can focus more on the learning part.
I have played the cello, violin, and Piano and can tell you out of all 3 the cello is not a hard instrument to play. The piano on the other hand is 4 times harder and take 5x longer to master than the cello. Actually playing and reading music on a Piano is like reading 10 lines of text at the same time while fully comprehending what you are reading to make the music sound beautiful. The cello on the other hand is pretty simple that's like reading 2 lines of text while trying to get the best tone out of your string.
They think becoming a professional cellist is the only reason to learn to play it? Bahahaha. What's wrong with people wanting to challenge their brains by learning something new? Or maybe trying something they didn't have the opportunity to when they were a kid?
Wow that is my life's story a 99.999% match! Same hairstyle too👴
😮😮😮except for the keyboard 🙄
do i live 2 lives simultaneously …?🤔🤔🤔🤔😳🤯🤯