How To Export A Chinese Car!
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- Ethan sat down with Benji Xu, Wheelsboy's Export Operations Manager, to answer common questions about how to export a Chinese car.
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Benji / wheelsboy is the most knowledgeable car business partner you ll be able to find in mainland china. That s a fact, and i am a customer. Keep it up.
Nonsense 🤣
It's the most basic job there is
They literally do nothing besides buying the car for you in China hence there are hundreds and hundreds of these businesses.
At least some have been in the car business in China and doing import into to China for years and they also have stock. Comparing these with just an agent is downgrading
Great timing, at the same day as the EU announced its import tariffs on Chinese cars haha!
Yeah they had to lessen them 😂
Do I pay tariff if I import a car myself?
@@slomo4672yes
@@slomo4672I guess Yes.
6:54
Risks Summary
1. No warranty: The so-called 0 mileage secondhand cars are exported through dealers rather than the official, which means very likely you won't get any repair services if you don't have parts imported/ mechanic who know how to fix. And some brands even refuse to have them repair after they officially enter the market. Yet good news is that EVs manufactured in recent years are fairly reliable, probably no serious problems will pop up for the first few years of usage.
2. Maintenance & Update: Normally EVs don't require maintenance on battery and motor. I personally own a 2023 BWM i3 and haven't spent a penny on maintenance with a mileage of 21,000 km. The main problem will be OTA update. New features and UIs might be unavailable if your internet service provider does not support data transmitted from China. I heard there are dealers in Russia who help with system update/ language. Perhaps you can use a VPN to make system update possible on your own.
3. Charging: You might need to do a research if the charger comes with the car is compatible with your local standard (current limit, voltage, frequency, etc,.) . If not you will have to get a converter. Ideally, you will have a garage with good electricity conditions, as some old apartment might not support a high power charger.
Basically those are 3 factors you need to concern. I started working for a car exporter last week, feel free to ask if you have a problem
Well hats off to you guys ... All of my questions answered..
EU has already announced import tariffs for ONLY Chinese BEV. What a shame 🙁
Good i will be placing my order soon in South Africa
A very interesting discussion!
The cars are cool and all but WHERE DID YOU GET THAT SHIRT FROM
Put it into reverse image search - a Chinese designer brand called Maden Uncle Fu seems to be responsible for this sick design
DUDE FRRRR THAT SHIRT IS 👌
Correct, glad you like it as much as I do!
I'm really shocked how importing Chinese-market cars became a thing in the world. In post USSR countries it's a trend for middle-class folks to drive a fancy electric Chinese car, like in Belarus, Uzbekistan, or Moldova. I've been in the last of these three mentioned, I was so shocked to spot around 20 chinese fancy EVs like Avatr 11, BYD Han EV, or Neta V, it's quite shocking how much people don't care about language, maintenance, charging, or repair risks and simply go ahead and import thiose cars.
I've heard Chinese EVs are super popular in Costa Rica and Colombia as well!
It's all about being unique probably.
Not even the computer system works .
it's a joke
Hundreds and hundreds of these businesses and no one could solve it
In some poorer countries, most people buy used cars and there are barely any dealerships. I don't know if this is the case there but in that situation, whether there's after sales support doesn't matter because it was never an option
People are not stupid. Electric cars are easy to maintain because of the abasencd of transmission system.
You just be a western whities if the special kind with all your "shockedness".
Grow a pair.
Maintenance? Dude - this isn't trash ICE. There are no repair risks - and we Slavic people always find a way to charge and to repair.
@@eden5260what are you babbling about? do you even have an education in natural sciences?
My main question is how do you service your car after importing a single car? There might not be a single other car like that in your country
Simple answer is you don't .
It's the most underdeveloped market in china
Taken advantage of by non-experts Chinese businesses who just want to make a lot of money .
Export our of China literally started last year
Export in this way doesn't go to Europe where it is illegal
It goes to Russia , the Middle East , Africa and other markets that aren't mature .
The process in China is easy
the "Agent" Benji/wheels boy is going to buy the car in the dealership , adds his profit , send it to the port and from there on its own you.
-The badges are in Chinese !
-The buttons are in Chinese !
-The screen is in Chinese with Chinese Apps that don't work abroad so no maps for navigation no music apps no android auto etc .
- the electric port is Chinese standard not European or American
Basically they don't do anything for you beside acting as an agent to buy a car in china and send it to the port.
My comment is regarding all the exporters from China of which there are in the hundreds.
Assuming you can't do it yourself, you find someone local willing to do it for you. Obviously importing parts will take longer too. If you're buying electric, then there are at least fewer parts to service. Many countries have a gray, personal or classic import scheme, and people with unique cars face and overcome these issues if they want to own something like that.
If money is no object, and you really want some interesting Chinese car you can't source locally, then it might be worth doing. If you think you're going to buy a cheap car, and legally drive it in your home country cheaper than buying local, then that's not going to happen.
3rd party technicians. Just like old days
My 13 year old privately imported Mitsubishi minicab miev EV hasn't needed anything but a tyres and fluid check in the 6 years I've had it. EVs just don't need much servicing.
You import a second one that you can cannibalize for parts lol
cool video....would be great if you could share how about the approach of converting cars from left hand drive to right hand drive; as well as converting infortainment interface from putong hua to english
25:00 🎉 Great idea to provide EV certified mechanic training.
you should list some examples of cars you exported so people see allexpenses - from export price to all your fees to FCO my shipping port and then i can take that to my spediteur who will make my import calculation
Can you coment on RHD cars? which models examples for electric
Luckily in my country, The Netherlands, we have a dealer/importer for BYD, MG, Hongqi, NIO, Xpeng.
Why is it lucky?
Have you made the calculation how much money they are making off of you ?
I have, in my country .
A BYD Atto 3 in China is sold for 14,725 $ USD without the local VAT which isn't paid for exports .
You forgot a Zeekr!
@@eden5260 Two of the biggest costs are local taxes and local compliance with "safety" standards.
@@Ausf surely I never doubted local taxes but those can be easily calculated
I am not familiar with taxes in your country but you should .
I am not sure what exactly do you mean by compliance with safety standards
Cars that come to the EU hold the European standards certificate
That is part of their supply chain manufacturing
It doesn't cost more to put a nio in the Netherlands than it does to put it in Norway or in China
@@eden5260They are lucky because they actually have a dealer that will service the car and be able to repair the car .
I would never buy a car that doesn’t have a dealer in my country .
These cars are basically being sold without any warranty if those companies are not in your country.
can't see it as a viable option other than in some specific situations.
They don't use a CCS socket, so you'll have to use an adapter that as far as I have seen can't deliver more than 50-100kW. If they even work at all
Big problem especially if the country does not allow adapters to be used in local charging stations.
@@jbcodilanwho could tell what adapter your using.
Icar3 I will take it
Hi. Can you guys do a review on the new BYD PHEV( byd seal 06 dmi and qin l dmi) 2000km acclaimed range. I can't seem to find in depth info on them.
Agreed, this car will be an instant hit in many markets, especially for fleets.
Over capacity 100% tax by us government.
You mean "TOO COMPETITIVE TAX" or the "WE AREN'T TRYING TO COMPETE" Tax.
25-year rule is already upon all these 😂
In South East Asia, we have parallel importers.
A parallel importer is doing one of two things
Getting his cars from a dealer somewhere else in the world
Or from a dealer directly in China.
Do they sell cars with Chinese badges, buttons , and Chinese UI system ?
Do you export Chinese made Japanese cars? For example hybrid (or electric corolla, camry, highlander, civic, accord etc)?
Yes, we do! Feel free to contact us at sales@wheelsboy.cn to learn more!
混动车 可以看看 理想L6.L7在中国也很受欢迎的车
So the UK is a no go? Would love to see Xpeng G9 over here! As that's starting to come over to Europe so english menus etc should be ok.
Wouldn't work for the UK since China spec cars are all LHD
@@Lando-kx6so yeap....
The answer to my biggest question is at 18:51. Adapters are required for EVs. The AC adapter is cheap, but the DC adapter is expensive ($1,000+). I'd say that having to use an adapter would likely make the car non-compliant in most advanced economies. This means nullifying home insurance if you charge with AC at home, and you would likely get banned from commercial DC chargers unless those adapters receive electrical safety certification in your home country.
How about warranty or issues? What happens if I import a car from CN and I have problems with it in a country where they don't have service centers?
Good luck . They don't care
ship it back lol, probly pay someone to come?
Normally, you should always go to those importer who promises that they will be handling it if problem happens. As far as my understanding, your importer has the access to official warranty in China. So the next thing is they will ship your car back and let the manufacturer fix it.
As discussed in the video, we will continue to provide you with the parts necessary to repair a vehicle, but you will need to find a mechanic who is able to repair the vehicle if there is not an official service center. We are always upfront with potential clients about what type service we can and cannot provide BEFORE we sell you a car.
@@Wheelsboy Ohhh thank you. I had the same question.
Why
The insurance premiums at 4 times that of a petrol car
Only draw back is if you get one of these cars and there is no dealer network in your country good luck trying to get it serviced repaired and parts
EU just slashed more tariffs on Chinese exported ev😂
As they should,china never let anyone compete fairly in their market why should the opposite be demanded
@@eden5260 that is funny. Ask ChatGPT how did Tesla built their factory in Shanghai in a year, and how much policy support they gained from Shanghai government. At the time, Tesla made far superior EV than any competitors in Mainland China. Also comparing that with EU and Biden Administration, they are now heading towards trade protectionism. How funny that is
@@eden5260 China let Tesla run a fully owned company in Shanghai.
@@Maplin-Ma always bringing up the one exception to the rule .
Yes only Tesla so they can build up there own future electric car industry as they did copy is what china does the best .
You bright up something I didn't even talk about which is funny
No body owns China thank you for letting Tesla sell in china without crazy high taxes on import as long as they build the cars in China .
So the EU should absolutely have tax on Chinese cars and if they want to avoid it build the factory in Europe
😂😂😂😂 no body will buy a phone chager at 100usd seriously chargers need to get cheaper
Can people buy just the Skateboard? eg: A Byd battery/motor/ecu to put on an Older Car for Conversion
You’d have to ask BYD, as we are unable to source anything like that.
A lot of carmakers's official warranty policies (or third-party software subscription policies I believe?) explicitly only benefit first-hand users, so if a CDM car is exported as a second-hand car, that's a really muddy territory. How do you deal with that?
The normal warranty policy does not limit the first owner. It's just that these electric car companies provide additional power system life-long maintenance for the first owner.
Want a Seagull.
Why don't they use AI to translate the content of the system software into English? Is it very difficult to do that and implement it in an English version of the system?
Hope the EU will open gates to more quality Chinese car brands as I think local brands need some competition as local car prices got unreasonably higher after Corona pandemic. I would buy some Chinese car personally, however compatibility issues, higher total price connected with importing the vehicle (tax, registration, higher insurance) keeps me from doing that.
The European Commission told automakers on Wednesday it would impose extra duties of up to 38.1% on imported Chinese electric cars from July, in a move that China called protectionist but its car industry dismissed as one without a major impact
It should be better when the Chinese car factory in Hungary is established, as XPENG is currently selling in Europe
Ursula von der Leyen will increase tax on import. Announced this week.
@@dingxiong8604 BYD buils in Hungary, not XPeng. And it will take a few years.
@@tdmduc If the CCP does not stop with the illegal subsidies of their EV acr exports. Yes.
Is the main blocker of Chinese EV sales into Canada its adherence to NHTSA?
No that's true deu
Cruel fact: you always need a Russian engineer to take out the motherboard, unlock the system, and switch to local carrier for internet… Those people are amazing
Yeah...That's how Russian dealers make Russian available in Chinese cars that DONT SUPPORT RUSSIAN AT ALL. Amazing people.
What is the shipping insurance charges like..is it % of the car cost ot some fixed amount...and what about freight chsrges to dubai, say a BYD Dolphin
Please email your question to sales@wheelsboy.cn
This is all fine and nice, but in most countries you cannot register or drive an imported car without type approvals, OTHERWISE, I'd jump on the chance to Import a right hand drive Baojun Cloud to here in Australia, Just like those Available in Indonesia, I don't think saic MG will import them here where they seem to be blind to anything but SU fing Vs. Please Saic, please send them to Australia. I see in videos from indonesia that the cloud there already had an English Language Setting.
At least many countries allow parallel import, which is somewhat easier to deal with. North America has a essential parallel import ban introduced in the 80s to stop Mercs being grey imported🤓
Honestly, if you read between the lines, it is quite clear that this service targets developing economies where used imports are common, and official aftersale service is non-existent anyway. I do not think it is practical to import a CDM vehicle to advanced economies where you cannot bribe an official to get a car registered.
Haha. I am also interested if we can make that happened. I heard from my friend who is studying in Australia that Chinese cars can be found on streets. I am now a car exporter ( started from last week). Will learn the rules and get back to you
Hi, there must be a restriction if importing to the US ?
Can you guys please do a review on the BMW i3 Sedan? I can't seem to find any good information on that vehicle because all i3 videos are the 'other' i3... I guess the i3 sedan is a china exclusive. I'm looking to buy it but no reliable sources in English
Thank you for the request, we will consider doing a review!
@@Wheelsboy Thank you so much! I hope you guys are able to make it happen!! I'm looking to buy one 😬
@@xtremestuntHAHA,I am the owner of BMW 7Serise ,my friend has an i3, driving is like a330i with Air suspension.the price is about 25000,USD. It is a very nice car
Well. This model is prohibited to be exported by BMW official, as it is....very very cheat and might interrupted the "normal market". The 2024 i3 40L is heard to be sold at 220K RMB (VAT included), which is less than 30K USD. Imagine how this crush the distributors in Europe.
@@hl9111 It is. I have been owning it for a year. 21000 km mileage, with a 180 rmb (25 USD)/ month electricity bill
To which African countries can you export? Is Morocco included?
Can you help customers with information about their own customs and duty they will have to pay?
For example - could you tell me how much would be my final bill (including import duty) for buying a particular car and importing to Morocco?
They can't tell you the final bill because that is for your govt, Your country is responsible for import duty, not wheelsboy. all you get from wheelsboy is CIF once the car reaches Morocco port. Morocco govt will then calculate the duty based on the CIF you paid.
Please email your question to sales@wheelsboy.cn
Thank you!
Wondering that is it possible at all to import an electric car in North America? I know the parallel import 25/15 year rule, which basically makes importing newer Chinese cars with ICEs impossible, but I think electric cars are a loophole for this moment?
We’ve looked into it, and it’s difficult enough that we don’t recommend even trying to import a Chinese car into US/Canada for personal use.
Pretty much bureaucratic process! I guess it takes much time!..
Are the export documents for a new car different from the documents for a used one? I understand the loophole explained for getting new cars exported from China, but in my country, you must have a used car dealer licence to import any type of used car, but there's no licence required for new cars. Obtaining the used car licence isn't feasible for an individual because it's a whole process which includes inspection of your car service area, and you have to secure a USD50000 bond. So it all boils down to the documentation because it states that its a used car coming from China, then the licence will be required.
They can't get you new card in China, it isn't possible.
They are just agents who buy the car for you locally so it is a "used" car in China
I think the problem for the US is more about the 25-(15- in Canada)year rule. Let's see whether electric cars are a loophole (I think it somewhat is). I did see Chinese kei cars used as equipment within institutes and colleges, even NASA, quite long ago.
Exporting a brand new vehicle requires documentation directly from a manufacturer, but apart from this, the export documents should be the same as far as we’re aware. As mentioned in the video, we do have a limited number of manufacturers who can provide us with new vehicles for export. Please email us at sales@wheelsboy.cn if you are interested in learning more.
Is there any other way around that I could import a Chinese EV to Canada?
buy chinese parts assemble urslef
We are not aware of any way around this issue, otherwise we would be doing it ourselves!
Hello Ethan, Would love to get a ET5T to Canada.. The government said I am out of luck. 🤨
Diversity is your strength. Just not car diversity. That's bad.
After Biden put 100% tariffs on Chinese cars Uncle Sam phoned Canada and said no Chinese cars for you
Canada being good vassals within days said they will not allow China to dump excess manufacturing to Canada .
For sure even if BYD were to set up a factory in Canada using their own money not government subsidies they would not be allowed
@@Ausf Agreed
I wish we could help!
@@Wheelsboy Can't do much when it's only good to be used as farm equipment.. lol.. Farm equipment with the German Steering Wheel Award & 5 star NCAP crash test ratings.. lol
I know there are some hurdles to overcome for CN domestic EV car manufacturers National software related issues are still a big problem today even if the global platform architecture is from ground up projected within the same hardware ... my hope is that this issue will disappear one day, but till then, the party shoots on their own foot for national conservative matters all along doing cn versions and export versions.Even europeans fear privacy protection failure because of not consented datatheft from 3rd parties, chinesse bigbrother is watching
Sounds like a minefield for things to go wrong....too many if's and but's.
Can I get chineese trucks imported? Starting a transport company in Côte d'Ivoire.
China truck assembly plants are in Nigeria and Ghana
Yes, we can also help you to export commercial vehicles as well. Email us at sales@wheelsboy.cn
Can you ship cars to India iam interested in zeekr models
How many units you need?
iam looking at zeekr 007 and 009 for personal use is there any import duty or tax benefits if i buy it as bulk i would love to open chinese car dealerships but need right hand drive models if i want to sell it through dealership also government only giving tax exceptions to locally manufactured cars inport duty is high for imported cbu cars or need to inport from china as ckd
@@administrator8 Zeekr officially announced that it won't support any form of parallel export by locking the OS of the car if found outside of mainland China from 1st July
7:50 why does it have to be registered and de registered. It doesn't make sense.
This point bothered me too. Registered in whose name?
They need to be registered in order to legally considered "secondhand" vehicles, which makes them eligible for export under Chinese regulations. New vehicles must be exported directly through the manufacturer. In this case, they would be registered to the export company that buys the car on your behalf here in China. Then the plate and registration are returned to the department of transportation, making the vehicle secondhand, but not registered and therefore free and clear to be legally exported.
BTW Anyone in Australia, stop watching this video,
You will not be able to import any vehicle from anywhere unless it meets Australia import regulations.
And if its sold here, its a 100% NO
or simply vote leader believing in free-market and non-protectionism. I'm sure the Chinese car makers will be happy to approach your market.
9:16 yes it is a pity that the geriatric i voted for put a 100% tariff on chinese EVs. america FORCES you to get a car. my local wendys wont serve you a burger after 6pm if you dont come in a car. the dealership model deserves to die out; tired of paying heavy markups for AWFUL american cars. no more bailouts, no more haggling with dealer, give me a chinese EV
Not a word about China who has 100% tariff on imports for the past two decades .
In india isn't it possible
Who told u that
Sure is 100% tariff. Just like the US-
Not Even exporting the Audi A7L to the United States? 😡
They dont tell you
The badges are chinese
The buttons are Chinese
The screen is chinese with chinese apps and navigation that doesn't work !
The electric port is chinese standard so you cant use EU or American charges without adapters thst should be connected each and every time ! And slow down your charging or creating problems
Source ? Proof ??
Show ncap europe results plz. I ll wait
@@jacksmith-mu3ee are you healthy?
What are you on about?
What does ncap results have to do with anything.
Let's start by achieving one coherent sentence bud before jumping loops ah?
@@jacksmith-mu3ee why are you talking about europe ncap on a topic that is not talking about ncap he is talking about the problems wheelsboy didn't mention you will face after importing a car from china
@@David-Zita all these problems are addressed in ncap tests
Funny how u didn't show the ratings received
@@eden5260 all addressed in euro/uk/austrailia/japan ncap reports
Again . U didn't provide proof when I asked u
AUDIO LEVEL TOO LOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For your own sake, save a lot of trouble not doing so
Test
Why a Chinese has a name like "Benji" ?
likely it is his English name, he must have a proper Chinese name, in Chinese characters.
How have you never met a Chinese person with an English name?
They do it for international business relations. non Chinese people have a difficult time pronouncing Chinese name, that's why they use English names.
No thanks, those cars can stay in West Taiwan.
Just dont do it!We dont need more Cars!Ban all Cars!
Hi Brüno! Still trolling?
@@wolfgangpreier9160How so?
@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl "Ban all Cars" What should we use instead? Ochsen? Steam trekker? Beaming?