Hands on the new Panasonic BS1H Full Frame Cine Cam
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- Panasonic just announced their 2021 Full Frame Cine Cam - we got one right here and we will put it on the bench. We are going to explore some rigging possibilities and the image quality… and we get lost in space during a 2001 spoof.
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00:00 - Opening
00:16 - 2021: A New Cinema Camera
02:19 - The Basics
03:18 - On the Bench
05:48 - Rigging
08:16 - Image
12:16 - Who is the BS1H for - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Nothing better than fresh Media Division!
Just a tiny one tis time ;-)
@@MediaDivision its not the size, its how you use it that counts! 😂
Tell my wife 😁
That opening was perfection
Thanks a lot Adam
Small addition: if you add a "0:00 opening" to your description, you'll get the chapters displayed in the videos timeline. Just finished watching, great content, just what I came to expect from you :-)
Thanks for the tip and your support Paul! Not quite sure what we need that 16 seconds for?!? But if you and 21 other people want it... here we go.
@@MediaDivision It's mostly a technical thing - CZcams wont recognize the chapters if the first entry does not start "at zero". And glad I can support this content! :-)
I was able to see them without 0:00?!?!
@@MediaDivision The markers on the actual play head of the video is what he's referring to. Could you see the chapters on there before you added the 0:00 mark?
I love how you include actual filmmaking in the reviews instead of just giving us the raw numbers. You get a real feel of what can actually be done with it instead of just knowing its technical details.
Thanks Joe... isn't that all the fun
I had a lot of fun reviewing the BGH1 - this looks like the exact camera I've been waiting for. Great review!
Thanks Patrick
I absolutely love these movie spoofs. They are so fun to watch!
Thanks Paul!!!!
The use of TV screens to reflect the space ship interior was incredibly creative! I legit thought he built a mini set or sth.
Thanks... the simple solutions can be quite convincing in the right context
I'll likely never get my hands on any of this gear but I still love watching these videos.
works for me ;-) ... but.... why not?
Amazing showcase of the BS1H! Love your channel and can’t wait for your next upload!
Thanks Chill!!! Very glad you do. Working on it always always.
Always great to see a new Media Division video, and seeing a 2001 spoof from you is definitely a treat.
Thanks Dude... nice to have ones work appreciated
I'm so addicted to media division, thanks so much for putting out such great content. This BS1H is going to go so well with my S1H.
Totally our pleasure Damien... very happy you enjoy so much.
Love you man, thank you for your detailed perspectives about our passions. Great content, as always, been here since your beginning.
Thanks Jove… appreciated… and thank you for sharing the journey with us. It is so much better knowing that people like you are around.
I really hope you end up getting more review samples/sponsors. Your Short films interlaced with detailed information makes this channel very unique.
I am all for it... as long as the product is worth yours and our time and we get paid... kids need to eat
Me 3 months ago: "should I get the BGH1 or the S1H?"
Panasonic: "how about both at once?"
totally
Me 30 seconds ago: Already have nice Leather jacket.
Media Division: What about this one, It looks really good but squeaks a little bit on camera.
Me YES i want it 😊
Did you know that you can set your native Panasonic lenses to have a linear focus throw? Furthermore, you can choose in the menu have long that throw is. I have mine set to 270* linear, and it’s probably the nicest focus by wire experience I’ve had so far.
yes... you can do a lot to the servos... but it remains focus by wire without hard stops. You can't "feel" the focus.
@@MediaDivision don't get me wrong, I also prefer hard stops - like on my Zeiss glass. However, focus by wire is 1000x better on these Lumix cameras than on Sony etc - and for some people it might be enough. Just wanted to mention it in case people didn't know about the option :)
I love what Panasonic is doing in the compact cinema space. Very intrigued by what they have in store for the close of 2021!
nice pun. I don't have expectations beyond that space in 21, do you??
This is the greatest product reveal intro for a youtube video I have ever seen!
Subscribed!
Thanks Andrew... nice to have you around!
loved the kubrick sequence. It had me thinking about building a cockpit to film in/out of/through. Having a BG1 or BS1H now would be great for over the should shot, especially in a limited space. You could even control it from a computer in front of you while you film.
You sure could. But the tether app would reflect quite prominently in your visor.
I love that you've done this video
Thanks man
Great review. And I've watched a ton of them this morning. We have a similar background, I started with a DVX100 as well and have owned many Pano's over the years. Subbed. Good stuff man.
Thanks and nice to have you. We came a looooong way. As good as the DVX100 was in her time... what a difference it is to todays standards
That intro was the best thing I’ve seen in a long time
Thanks a lot Darren... was fun to make
Haha that space intro was very intense and funny at the same time 🤣👌
Grtz from the netherlands Johny geerts
Thanks Tube and Tech..... Glad you enjoy!!!
@@MediaDivision thank you guys , real pro's and great mentors
I love the S1H, this looks like a perfect camera to rig!
I thinks so, too
One of my favourite channels. Absolutely BADASS. State of the badass art….
thanks a lot... badass enough to travel to the depths of my garage 😁
Thanks a lot for the quality content you put out👍🏻
Always! Thanks for your kindness!!!
I found your Channel because of the Contax/Zeiss lens, that I also love and use... on my Fujifilm X-T3. Latter, your spoffs on Kubrick work, Katana Robot and specially the Blade Runner ones, made me recommend your CZcams channel every time I have an opportunity!
Awesome work!
Thanks for that… we can always use some more people to hang with us. Glad you enjoy!!
That intro was awesome!! If Media Division are getting into new kit reviews the other tech youtubers better get worried...
Thanks... we always did a bit of gear reviews... I don't think the need to be ;-)
Loved the excellent review, though short. Thank you
Thanks... with pleasure
Now this is what you call a surprise...
Here go Media Division overachieving again 🤣 love it man. I wish you were around for my childhood.
Thanks a lot..... I feel so old, that I might as well was 😅
Yeaaa! Something new from Media Division
Glad you enjoy man!
I love how the form factor is very reminiscent of 545 and 6x6 MF systems like Hasselblad etc. With the battery and the grip it looks very much like a Bronica ETRSi with a speedgrip.
true... you can see "her" that way
Hmm, perfect fit for Mamiya 645 glass + booster on this bad boy.
indeed... the most compact way to use them I presume. Thanks a lot for your support!!
I Start with Panasonic as well , and there is a special place in my heart that i keep for Panasonic. Currently that type of camera is not for my work, but if i ever had to make a film this camera will be already shipping to my address , compact , ff, and if i imagine correctly excellent color science by Panasonic.
nice.... many of us. Panasonic always had the edge when it comes to filmmaking
The sound of the leader jacket is intense!!
I rather have you endure that than to freeze my ass off…
This is a pretty cool release from Panasonic, gives me a option down the line to pair with my S5
go for it
Well done Nik !
Thanks Barry?
Your videos are very interesting, it is always a pleasure to watch them. I will study cinema in Mexico City and with this videos I already have a certain advantage over others!
Thanks man... I rather have you share our stuff with the others. Lets get better together!
Incredible intro!
Thanks a lot Camhin!!!
I love my BGH1 already. Will see if I want BS1H
The larger sensor makes a lot of difference in sensitivity… I like!
Really enjoyed this :)
Glad you did Sebastian... thanks a lot for your support
Great presentation. Very informative. Love the leather sound
thanks... I was sick, it was cold, it was in the middle of the night and it was the only jacket around
@@MediaDivision well besides looking cool it sounded cool👍🎬
Loved the intro
Thanks man... sure, give it a try!
Came just to drop a like/comment so the channel can keep on growing
Appreciated... thank you
Love your work :)
Thanks man!!
Awesome & Thanks :)
With pleasure..... and thank you
Thank you Sir
Most welcome
An unexpected Media Division video! Today is a good day. Little on the short side though Nikolas!
For the subject I think the length was just right. I don't do long videos... everything is a s long as it has to be and as short as it can be.... kind of a golden rule. Glad you enjoy anyways.
@@MediaDivision No argument there!
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Comment to support content!
thanks back
Again LIT content🔥🔥🔥
Thanks a lot Tony... and as always, thank you for your support!!!
@@MediaDivision Always💪🏾👊🏾!!
Thanks, always appreciate your perspectives on the tools of the creative process, rather than straight 'gear reviews' which I never find helps me make any sort of decision! Plus I love the inspiration to create that I feel watching your channe... this camera is very appealing for its form factor, I'm a big fan of the box-stye format and have been considering the Z-cam S6 S35-sized sensor camera due to my Sigma Art S35 lenses which I love. I love the colour that comes out of the S1H sensor with VLog, and the dynamic range. I have a set of Nikon AI-S lenses as well as my Art lenses, so this is interesting - it would help to have more information on the phone app though... the control of this camera is really my main question (and a strength of Zcams).
pleasure Neuro... glad you find our work inspiring. I was not able to establish phone connection... probably a Beta problem. I saw the app life at Panasonic and it worked just fine. Good image refresh rate compared to when I last used it with my GH5. I don't think the app can replace the tether app, though.
@@MediaDivision thanks for the comment, that's helpful. For studio work I can imagine the tether app is the better way to go. I really like the image, I think I'm just going to wait and see what the GH6 looks like before deciding as I'm in no hurry. Thanks again.
God I love this channel so much.
Thanks Nyleen… very happy you do. Glad you are around.
Such a cute camera!
isn't she
You're right what you said towards the end "it's more of an addition" to the bigger cams.
Other than that...🤷🏾♂️
... it's probably just not for you
cool content, keep making cool and educational content for us!!!!, you are better than my teacher
Thanks Alif... will try!
Respect. Period.
Thank you for your kindness!
Media Division IS THE BEST
Trying to be.... thanks a lot Ferhan
What an Intro :D
Thanks Steadi
There is something appealing about the box form factor for me.I don’t know why. And the footage by bernard is gorgeous
I thinks so too... I mean Bernards footage
great video! the form factor is so much more appealing than the s1h. if it wasnt for the lack of IBIS it may have been my next camera.
it is a bit of a bummer.... but this camera is not supposed to be held that way
Love the video, as always! How would you compare this to the Panasonic S1?
Thanks.... I wouldn't, I never used an S1. Obviously very different cameras with the BS1H being video centric lacking photo features
When I tested bs1h, I was very surprised that Panasonic didn't give the opportunity to shoot raw photos at least with an electronic shutter. I gave my preference to the Sigma Fp as I often shoot timelapses for motion pictures and commercial projects, but at the same time I needed a compact personal video camera with excellent video capabilities.
Well… I think you can when in tethered modus. Big whoop. It is obviously to keep the BS1H limited to video use. For photo use, the S1H is definitely the better alternative
But does it play Doom? ;-)
As always.......amazing work guys. Your channel really deserves more attention.
If you are a hell of a hacker… I bet. Thanks man!!!
Excellent video, as always.
I would really love to see a detailed comparison between "Bea" and a Z Cam E2 F6 as it seems to be its closest competitor (and they use the same Sony Semicon IMX410 sensor)
Thanks... well, that would be a very narrow audience. To narrow and we don't have a Z Cam
@@MediaDivision Yes I totally understand. ;)
Great intro, appreciate the effort your put in. In terms of image quality, how is the BS1H compared to your Kinefinity Mavo？
Thanks… very different cameras for different jobs. Mavo is worthless for life productions as it has no 10bit 4K out option… or even 10bit 1080p. For narrative I would prefer the Mavo, BUT that is largely because I’m used to it and it fits in my workflow. Mavo does not offer efficiency codecs… so worthless for long form recording, too.
@@MediaDivisionThank you for the detailed response!
Can you please try to see if the EVA grip triggers BS1H? Thanks
great intro :)
Thanks a lot Red!
panasonic should hire you for making their ad
I am all for it... tell them ;-)
@@MediaDivision if they does it i will glad watching the ad without skiping😁
Nothing compares to you Viedeos if it comes to relaxing my nerfs. Your are producing Viedeos in a Quality that puts good documentarys, like the ones ARTE makes, almost to shame.
I hop you don't mind if I ask if there will be more Viedeos to come and if when.
Best wishes from sunny Austria.
Phillip Schimek
That is nice.... so, almost boring ;-) just kidding. Glad you feel this way.
Of course... 4 different ones in the works.
First to be released on Tuesday.
Hab einen schönen Sonntag Phillip... hier ist Sturm
@@MediaDivision Versuche ich zu haben 😅 Sitze gerade noch über den Dachgartenplänen eines Kundens.
Ps: Der Sturm hat Österreich erreicht 😂
Legendary opening. Just ridiculous stuff, Nik.
However, I have to ask the obvious question:
Media Division produced narrative feature, when?
Thanks a lot Junkie... and thanks for your support. Exploring the deepest depths of my garage there.
Man... I would love to ... I have concepts in the drawer... just no opportunities and no contacts... and obviously to many bad excuses
When he said it's tiny I didn't think it would actually be that small. Like WTF, how is that possible? :D
Thats what I thought... ridiculously small
like every time - I loved your übergeile intro films;-)!! go ahead
Thanks man… always trying our best
Wow I had no idea this existed, maybe this is a good option to run on my fpv aircraft!
why not... if it is strong enough?! You can save weight by using a pancake lens. Vibrations could be an issue
@@MediaDivision the main thing the komodo lacks is a built-in gyro for gyro based stabilisation. I wonder if this has one.
There's no IBIS in this right? IBIS is actually a problem in fpv as the magnets aren't strong enough to withstand the G forces in fpv which makes the sensor jitter around.
Pancake lens? do they have various focal lengths in that range? I am not familiar with panasonic lenses.
FPV drone shots are typically very wide FOV's. I'm not sure if there's a full frame lens that would give a wide enough fov without being huge.
I don't think it does have internal gyro. It has no ibis. You can add external gyro sensor (i have one) that records the data to to he audio track. Still, this will only be so good and it will do nothing about the vibrations.
you can adapt almost anything long flange to L-mount, and with super wides on a drone, you wouldn't need AF. Everything past 3m would be infinity. I regards to pancakes... look around... maybe you'll find something fitting. there is a 7Artisans 35mm f5,6
I really want to try this camera out
Why don’t you
@@MediaDivision I think will. Hopefully I’ll be able to rent one first depending on supply shortages
making a logo out of cutters was bad ass.
Thanks man... I still like it, too
Usually I don't love gear reviews but with Media Division I know I'm going to enjoy the content anyways, always top-notch.
Maybe this is slightly off-topic but... With this (often times marketing-driven) push for cameras with bigger and bigger sensors, will we see a change in the so called "standards" of cinematic image in a few years OR in your opinion the "good old" 35mm 4Perf Academy Standard and its use with anamorphic lenses will stick around for a while even though it seems nowaydays even pro-sumer grade cameras "need" to be al least FF to be considered somewhat "capable"?...
By the way, the GH4 was actually my first camera and it was (still is imho) indeed a beast of a camera, so much that in my case my filmmaking skills are still below its full potential. 👏👏🎥🎞♥
He SoFa.... sorry, it looks like I missed your comment.
I don't care much about them either... but hey, others do.
I think that FF will be the new normal... with and without anamorphic lenses.
The reason for that is simply that Sony is so invested and good at producing them, that they gained market dominance. Other options fell way behind. With Arri, they simply did the LF to have a 4K cam in the arsenal.
GH4 was cool in her time, but wow... compared to the BS1H she can't hold a candle.
Thank you so much for your support!!
@@MediaDivision Thank you for always taking the time to respond even to uninteresting questions like mine! 😆I feel very priviledged to be able to witness your artistry. Can't wait for next episode🎬🍿♥♥
Glad you see it that way man… I hope not to disappoint and put out something cool for you. Thanks again
That jacket is a pain to my ears! But very excited to see this new BS1H :-D
@5:20 why couldn't they have developed a positive lock mount? Like Sony has for E Mount for their cinema cameras. Or Z Cam has done for Micro Four Thirds.
Unfortunate that the BS1H doesn’t have internal ND filters, is the one thing missing to tip me over to buying a BS1H/BGH1.
I would have loved to see a locking mechanism for sure... and an E-ND. Sounds like the Mavo Edge is your cam... has both
I dont understand why someone would pick this over an S5. Youre going to have to use an external recorder with both for serious use, both shoot 5.9k BRAW with the exact same sensor and same timecode/anamorphic abilities. Both are also smaller than the GH5. The S5 is just the same use case, yet for half the price + IBIS added.
Studio work for multicam setup. It has more professional ports
If you don't understand it is not for you... and that is just fine. You don't need RAW for serious work
I'd rather have the extra color depth, don't know if I'm getting it yet but I'd definitely get the S1h over S5 just because of the 4:2:2 10bit 4k. Extra ports for video and just better ergonomics for video as well. They're both good but the BS1H is going to be Netflix Approved with specific settings like the S1H.
This looking great🤩 #First
Thanks.... congrats 😅
Finally!
Finally a S1H in another form factor??
@@MediaDivision yeah should be better for gimbals
@@MediaDivision also fantastic video as usual
with that eathernet jack if they start making it work stright into UE without capture card and allow the software to rack the lens... instant success for mixed virtual reality productions
Camera control and monitoring.... yes. Image ... no. I wouldn't trust that over IP anyhow. Giving the cost of virtual sets and that weight is of little consequence, I think that one would grab something from a higher shelf in that situation.
my shortcummings with s1 are, when a hdmi is plugged in switching modes have a 5second delay. not sure if that is not present with this but thats a plus.
Can't tell if it is the same here
waiting for the 3rd episode
working on it
If you compare this camera with the EVA1, I mean the codec compression, stabilisation, auto focus, etc. what is your opinion ?
Thanks in advance .
different cameras for different job..... IQ wise EVA is still a capable cam, but in difficult lighting it can't compete with the S1H FF sensor. Codecs are the same, no stabilisation worth mentioning on either, auto focus is absent on EVA but I don't use AF.
@@MediaDivision What about stabilisation and Auto Focus on the S1H full sensor? I am thinking to buy a BlackMagic mini 6K pro....
The S1H has stabi… the BS1H has not… both have the Same AF. If you are looking for AF performance of the S1H… there are lots of test put there. I don’t use AF
@@MediaDivision I would like the auto F. for the gimbal use, but not too much. But I saw many things like No ND filters, no Canon mount... I don't know... I would like to test it first before to take a decision, but I test the Blackmagic pocket 6K pro and I like it a lot, the only thing is auto focus is not there.
Than go for the BMD?! These are very different cams for different jobs. 6k S35 sensor with a fixed EF mount (no focal reducer) is a no no for me. As you can see in the video. L to EF is unproblematic and allows to apply PL too
Like to see how BS1H footage compares with EVA1.
Both can look great. EVA1 stand no chance in lower light… Sony FF is just so very good at it. Watch Bernards channel for footage of both (S1H is identical to BS1H in IQ). czcams.com/users/bernardbertrand
I wish Blackmagic do the same with BMPCC 6k pro. put that 6k sensor into a box shaped body with internal ND filters.
… and a full frame sensor, and SDI out, and better runtimes.
I kind of wish that Sony had done the same with the FX3, just put the sensor of the A7SIII in a box. Which they’ve actually done before with the A7SII. It was a custom note industrial oriented stripped down box version of the cam, but not available for consumers. Now box cameras are more popular amongst indie film makers
I didn't know that.. interesting, thanks.
I do not like your content, I love it!
Thanks a lot Hsuman... really appreciate that you do and that you tell us!
Can you tell more about colour space, like the rec2020
All the same as S1H
I wonder if they ever put out an EVA2....seems like decent evidence they will by reusing the battery.
I am not holding my breath.... I would rather like to see a full fledged cine cam.
Fantastic. But be honest - the squeaky leather jacket was a nod to Loriot, wasn't it?
cold, late, me sick, only option
Please comparison between panasonic BS1H vs ZCAM E2 M4
If they pay me… maybe. Otherwise… I don’t have a Zcam and such comparisons are boring (for us) to all but a hand full of people. Get the right camera for the right job.
love me some media division during the early shift :)
next time maybe dont wear a leather jacket during talking head shots tho, its kinda loud 😅
Sick, late night, cold, only jacket in the office. Glad you enjoy
How does it compare with the Sigma fp? Could you use them on the same production easily?
I get the "how does it compare to… XYZ" a lot. How can we possible compare all cameras with each other?! I never used a FP. The specs are different, but, you can look that up. The FP is a hybrid, this is not. The FP is aimed at consumers and prosumers… this is aimed at studios and people that need the form factor and connections.
@@MediaDivision Just a suggestion made without expectation - it's a way for you to know your audience.
Looks like a great camera but it's expensive. At that price range i might think spend a bit more for a Red komodo. I would really have to test it out see how i get attach to it.
??? This camera costs halve of the Komodo for a sensor twice the size.... you can't compare them
That quality is just too good For CZcams!😆
Then get me out of here!!!!!! ;-) Tanks man
Very interesting camera but having the S5 myself, id just invest in the ninja V.
Sure… whatever works for you… while I stoped used external recorders altogether
how does the BS1H perform outdoors? DPReview says it's "environmentally sealed," but Page 6 of the BS1H manual:
"The camera is not dust resistant, splash resistant, or waterproof. Avoid using the camera in places with excessive dust or sand, or where water can come into contact with the camera. If sand, dust, or liquid gets on wipe it off with a dry soft cloth."
Wolfcrow comparing to a7siii, said the fan noise on the s1h was loud, but can't find any comments about the fans on the BS1H being loud. Is the BS1H less loud than the loud fans of the atomos ninja V?
Maybe I'm crazy, but I like the look of the oversampled 4k from 6k a bit more than sony fx3, maybe the sony's 12mp wider pixels give you less detail, but the best lowlight
I'm looking to upgrade from my a7iii, and I slightly prefer the image out of the s1h and bs1h, though they're a little older and slightly less recording format options.
I never take photos, mostly shoot indoors, small, slightly less-than well-lit spaces.
I never use autofocus, never use IBIS, always shoot on a tripod, always use d-tap to external 98wh vmount, use atomos ninja V to pull focus, but then turn off the monitor to avoid the fan noise. Looking to do more long-form interviews and narrative filmmaking and learn 10bit color.
Also was considering the Zcam e2 F6, though a lot of launch issues/buggy, and old format CFast cards/maybe less good for people like me, editing in prempro/pc. The image is amazing out of the Zcam e2 f6, though I think the S1H and BS1H aren't far off, both got sony sensors inside with the 5.9k rez, more or less.
Seems the Zcam is more fully featured, but less reliable, and reliability is king w/ filmmaking.
So it seems like the BS1H could work for me, but squeamish if I gotta take it outdoors, and no info on the fan noise. Internal 4:2:2 10bit recording onto dual sd cards is very nice, as is unlimited recording.
Exactly like it does indoors… it has a fan, so the body is open. From that perspective I would recommend to: "Avoid using the camera in places with excessive dust or sand, or where water can come into contact with the camera. If sand, dust, or liquid gets on wipe it off with a dry soft cloth."
I wouldn't use it in pouring rain or a sand storm
Leather jacket sound it's a little distracting lol but cool too
cold, late, me sick, only option
Interesting camera, but I'm a little disappointed by the lack of internal ProRres/Raw recording, let's see if Blackmagic will soon release an S35 version of their Micro Camera
No internal ProRes RAW for anyone thanks to RED ridiculous 4K RAW US patent. ProRes is rare in energy efficiency cameras as it usually requires programmable CPUs… you can’t have it all. As I can show… quality wise, ProRes 422 HQ is not better than Panasonic’s 422 h264. BMD is not likely to release a FF camera soon. So, this is not comparable. Image quality of the large Sony Sensors is just so good.
@@MediaDivision in fact I didn't talk about full frame, but S35.
Yes… I read that… and telling you that a s35 sensor is not comparable to a this FF sensor
@@MediaDivision I understand this without needing too many explanations. I was just saying that I would be curious to see a Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera with S35 sensor (actually I don't care too much about sensor size), since already with the 4K version it was possible to record in ProRes or Raw, which I would have liked to see in this Panasonic but that, as you say, not it is easy to apply due to the commercial policies of R3D
Alright