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It's refreshing to see a youtuber actually enjoy the boss design in this game and the dlc, I personally really enjoy the more complex movesets because of the added replay value. They seem so absurd at first but you can really perfect them with time. I can't enjoy dark souls 3 the same way anymore because the bosses don't really challenge me atp.
I have enjoyed all the souls games and eventhough the ds3 bosses might not be as challenging today i still adore its boss lineup and how most encounters have top tier music and a moveset which is not the most complex but atleast very fair
@@drpeepee05Define fair? What does that mean exactly? Because I always hear this made up category from players, but this word doesn't seem to have a consistent and exact meaning. People use this word to describe everything they don't understand about the boss. For me most of the Elden Ring bosses seem fair after mastering them, same thing with DS3. I honestly don't see how Elden Ring bosses can be less "fair", maybe it could seem that way when you're bad against Elden Ring bosses, was the case for me back when I was only starting. Like I genuinely want to know what would make bosses like Messmer, Rellana and Bayle feel less "fair" than Friede, Gael and Midir for example
@@Vengeance_I_m love this comment. Although this wasn't directed at me, I classify "unfair" bosses or moves by if they are clearly cheap or broken. Examples when Bayle transitions to 2nd phase sometimes he flies through the wall and your camera unlocks and it messes you up badly. Also things like the camera in the golden hippo fight and not being able to see what he does because half the time ur stuck in his body. Gaius charge is technically fair if your light rolling and relatively easy and consistent to dodge, but I'd consider this charge overly punishing and unfair if you are medium rolling. Despite pointing out a few moves from the DLC the bosses are extremely fair and the people saying they aren't do not understand the boss mechanics well enough. Some people bitching about massive AOEs clearly don't even know you can just them with a single roll or jump and the timings on most are very forgiving
@@Luxuriouswhite you can dodge it easily with med roll. and also jumping makes aoe attacks a joke, even that massive placi style bayle attack when he blows up a lightning spear in the ground is funnily enough, jumpable. no joke you can just jump in front of his face when he does that attack and he'll miss, it looks funny af and you'll get a huge window to kick his ass.
@@Blackblade-NeX absolutely agree. Messmer’s assault is beautiful especially. I also love radahn’s 5 hit bread and butter combo as well as the meteor + lightclones ability in the second phase
@@Vengeance_I_m best phase transition of any boss tbh. Though midra has a beautiful transition too. As well as gael’s third phase or both of isshin’s second phases
@@Vengeance_I_m cinema doesnt make it good though. It looks cool but the mechanics are just like placidussax, floating in the air regaining posture and wasting time
Messmer to me is the coalescence of all of fromsoftwares learnings over the years. Each piece of their iconic catalogue served as the springboard for their next. Messmer has, in my opinion, their best combat design, amazing character design, and a lore driven OST which compliments his character perfectly. Messmer and Malenia are both my favourite bosses in elden ring. This DLC was amazing.
@@jordan.d1475 Yes, 💯. He's essentially Malenia done right, basically a fluid dance and thrilling, peak, anime-like battle. Both would be similar in quality and regarded as the best bosses ever if Waterfowl Dance attack didn't exist. Malenia's still fun fight though, but her immeasurable potential was ruined due to that move. Honestly yes Messmer is such a great boss and imo is the best boss in SoulsBorne history. This DLC gave us so many banger bosses it's insane
@@Vengeance_I_m to be honest when you learn the dodge pattern of waterfowl it really isn't that problematic. I think they are difficult for different reasons. Malenia has the ability to delete you if you do not measure your aggression but she also provides lulls in her overwhelming aggression. Messmer's attacks in isolation are very manageable however he is very aggressive in both phases incessantly.
@@jordan.d1475 The problem is that the attack is 100x harder than others in the fight and can come out at any point in time + has no limit on how many times it can happen. She can also instantly animation cancel into the attack which can make you unable to run away and you have to use the extremely unintuitive way to dodge by rotating around her. Essentially her difficulty is entirely rng. You might have a fight with 0 waterfowl and she's one of the easier bosses in the game.
@@hachikuji_mayoi100% agree but i have to say i havent seen many people talk about it but i see alot of mohg in messmer his delayed attacks and direction specific dodges are the clear inspirations i see
Midra is my favourite boss in Elden Ring. It's proof that an amazing boss isn't just about difficulty, but about spectacle and flow too. He's not too hard but he's fun and the setting helps too.
@@dtanobo Midra is an amazing boss fight with great spectacle and clean moves, but he's too simple and easy to learn imo, still harder than almost any DS3 boss, but according Elden Ring bosses' level of complexity and variety, he seems to be the very easiest moveset wise. But yeah honestly just as you put it, boss' quality isn't always about the difficulty and Midra is a great example of it. Definitely an S tier boss and up there with greatest bosses Fromsoft has ever made
@@Vengeance_I_mI agree , I much prefer the likes of Bayle, Maliketh, and even Melania over Midra. Midra is awesome but he just didn't challenge me enough. He's just lacking that little bit extra that would put him in the S tier for me.
@@grimreefer213 +++. Although Malenia has one big issue (waterfowl dance), overall she's in my top 5 favourite boss fights and I always enjoy fighting her, fight is like a dance. Messmer is the same for me (except it's one of the cleanest fights I've ever seen, where every move is dodgeable). Maliketh, Radagon, Mohg, Godfrey, Morgott, Rellana. All of these are absolutely great fights, one of the best bosses in all of SoulsBorne imo. Midra would be an S tier, the best fight in any other Fromsoft game, but unfortunately for Elden Ring he's too simple and easy to be at the very top. Like it's funny that Margit, literally the first major boss in Elden Ring, is slightly more complex than freaking Midra, really goes to show how much Fromsoft cooked with bosses in this game
@@Vengeance_I_m For real, I understand Melania is not for everybody and she's very clearly overtuned and has a lot of issues, but it's that she's overtuned that kinda made it special to me. I spent so much time mastering the perfect punish windows and learning how to dodge waterfowl dance and the spirit clone attack perfectly, it made the fight so much more engaging and memorable for me. Midra is very nice to fight and flows well but it almost feels like a DS3 boss in Elden Ring. I get that a lot of people will like it for that reason in that it's pretty intuitive and you get a lot of big punish opportunities, but it's these other bosses like Maliketh, Margit/Morgott, Godfrey, Melania etc. where you have to work a little bit to unlock the best punish opportunities that makes them more interesting I think. Of course there are ways to trivialize bosses especially in the base game so your mileage may vary, and I still need to fight the DLC bosses more.
I always thought that he should still be mid-life in his second phase but only on the first try you put him in phase 2. When you come back, only Maliketh remains with a full health-bar
Messmer was the first boss since Slave Knight Gael where I actually felt goosebumps throughout my whole body while fighting him. That should tell you all you need to know about how epic his fight truly is
Honestly if Midra had a phase 3 he would probably be the best boss in fromsoft history eclipsing gael and isshin. Especially since they kinda just scratched the surface with the frenzy idea. Still a phenomenal fight, just wish they went crazier.
@@DeltaRaven97 Yep one of the best bosses ever made, very underrated imo. Also, funny how Margit version, literally the first major boss in Elden Ring, is one of the most complex and detailed boss fights we got in all of Fromsoft.
@@DeltaRaven97 for me he Is the best boss in the game, he Is Just peak elden ring gameplay with positional openings, jumpable tail swipes and delayed Attacks with can let you get AN hit inbetween. As his low health i Simply use a +0 weapon and i actually really enjoy it
@@bigchonc1 yeah imo should've been vice versa. Maliketh is very rough for newbies due to extremely high amount of damage he deals to a player but he has very little HP and poise. Would be much better and more balanced if his damage output was slightly tuned and he was more tanky
Rellana puts both swords by her side when shes finished a combo. Thats how you know, if they arent by her side she has a chance to combo into more. There are patterns to it people need to learn them and not just complain. Speaking in general not to you bro 😂
@@Nightwalk2 i think your top 3 are based btw. Deffinately the best 3 fights from the dlc. I actually have a soft spot for Gaius now that iv done a few no hit fights on him 😂 but i think my favourite 3 are bayle malenia and messmer
Amazing tier-list! Man Elden Ring boss roster especially after DLC is freaking unmatched, FromSoft have outdone themselves with it. Most of my top 10 Souls bosses are from Elden Ring. Just amazing.
@@HeyTarnished Yup same with me. Elden Ring has some of the best boss fights in the whole genre. They're so underrated and overhated imo, eventually after Elden Ring hate train is gone, after a few years a lot of players will recall and appreciate how awesome, engaging and fun the game and bosses are. After multiple Elden Ring playthroughs I'm so thankful that the game has honed my skills so much and has taught me so much about strong mentality/ways to approach problems. After I mastered Elden Ring every other game including Sekiro was so easy, because I've learned from Elden Ring that you see the enemy -> you learn (instead of whining, giving up and going hollow), you endure and prevail. Funny that Berserk's philosophy is essentially the same, moving on and staying strong no matter what, Myiazaki is big Berserk fanboy after all :). I hope more people where chill and could see the true beauty of the game, instead of their ego getting in the way
@@Vengeance_I_m So true I agree with everything, seems like more and more people are starting to see the real value of Elden Ring’s bosses and they’re like “Oh…that’s why” with it now and are loving it.
@@HeyTarnished Most of these cry babys are old fans who didn't adeptet to the new mechanics. Fans who played ER as their first game don't even complain that much.
@@xvimpexgg6853 Fans who played ER as their first game likely also used spirit summons and some other cheesy weapon, meaning that they have nothing to complain about boss wise because they do not need to learn patterns.
@@zaynthemane great advice. But unfortunately average gamers won't do that specifically and won't be able to appreciate Midra that much because he's too easy for their broken meta builds, which is very sad imo. Very great and underrated boss.
The first time I beat Messmer I died dozens of times and yet I never once got mad, it felt not only fair but also super fun. The OST for messmer is probably my favorite of the entire dlc and base game, that choir that plays during his phase transition cutscene is probably my favorite part. He’s just fun and the only other bosses fromsoft made that felt like this were Slave knight Gael and Holy Blade Ludwig. Truly some of Fromsoftwares best work.
Bayle was the first time since gael that i came away from a fight absolutely stunned with how amazing it was. Messmer was close, but to me he just couldnt match the absolute spectacle. Bayles 2nd phase transition still gives me shivers every time i see it
The top 3 couldnt be more correct. These 3 run chills through my spine. Messmer, especially, with all the OST's desperation and sorrow it sears me in two while pumping my adreneline to 100. Brilliance
In an age of so many critical or even negative youtubersI absolutely love your enthusiasm. It helps after checking out your channel you love Black Country, New Road 😂 you need a discord bro
I do have one for my music channel, I’ve abandoned it though as it was a bit much to manage haha. Glad you enjoyed. I know, I’m just here to talk about games I love, simple as that :)
i like mohg a lot because you can get to him faster than to any other endgame boss. literally 1 simple questline and you're there. and that gives you an opportunity to get to level 80 really fast and he's fairly easy to fight. he's sort of like four kings from ds1, that you can get to real quick and reach endgame level requirements before fighting any other hard bosses, or like dancer of the boreal valley in ds3. i know that he's hard but id'd say he's the easiest out of all endgame bosses and if you have +10 somber and like 40 vigor you'll be able to defeat him quite easily.
@@static4802 i find godfrey and radagon to be harder because they're much faster, and maliketh cus he hits like a truck, and malenia yeah, malenia is the hardest.
Great list, Elden Ring has so many unique encounters that everyone will have shuffled top 10s. I completely agree on number 1. My list would look like: 1. Messmer the Impaler 2. Morgott the Omen King 3. Maliketh the Black Blade 4. Bayle the Dread 5. Rellana, Twin Moon Knight 6. Mohg, Lord of Blood 7. Godfrey, the First Elden Lord 8. Malenia, Blade of Miquella 9. Divine Beast Dancing Lion (It's difficult to explain why i like this boss' theme, design and moveset so much lol) 10. Midra, Lord of Frenzied Flame It's painful to omit so many great bosses, but it just shows how great Elden Ring's overall catalogue is now. Love your videos, keep it up Nightwalk! I still remember you reacting to In Rainbows for the first time, feels like ages ago.
The thing i like about bayle is if you do like to attack the feet and legs, his stump takes more damage similar to the results you'd get from hitting his head
@@static4802 it's a bit messy are but you just gotta be aware of the surroundings. The camera is only really a problem when the boss pushes you back to the walls bringing the camera closer. Otherwise it's not too bad. And the ost and its fluid but freaky animations and AWESOME spectacle really sell it for me
I always find it crazy that torrent is more afraid of the flame of frenzy than he is of fighting a giant cosmic outer god that can change the landscape at will lol
I don't think Rykard should be here. He can only be fought using a weapon you find in his arena, meaning you can't use the build you've worked so hard on. he also has some really stupid, undodgeable attacks. My pick for a number 10 would be Divine Dancing Lion from the DLC. It is sort of a Margit fight in the sense that its early game but quite difficult and punishing, making you explore more before you come back. Has amazing design and 3 seperate elemental phases, making every fight with him different. Soundtrack is also amazing
All of his attacks can be dodged, but the upheaval is the only one where a case for unfairness can be argued. But even then, that can be dodged by running to the right and jumping. Moreover, you're very much misrepresenting the boss, stating things that outright aren't true, such as the spear being the only way to be able to fight him; It feels like intentionally or not, you're downtalking the boss to elevate the dancing lion. There are still very viable ways to fight him without the Serpent Hunter, such as shard spiral (very deadly against very large enemies like Rykard) and frostbite procs, which could easily be used by any build. Take this from someone who actually fought him without that great spear and has video proof; If you know what you're doing, it's more than possible. Moreover, the gimmick weapon is a part of the appeal of the boss. Like Storm Ruler with Yhorm or the Storm King. Not to mention an important bit of lore. It was a weapon DESIGNED to kill the likes of Rykard.
I am happy Elden Beast got some love, a very overhated part of the final boss. It looks beautiful and the music is majestic and honestly, the boss running away has never been an issue, i love the feeling of running towards this being we cannot comprehend at the end of the journey.
I love that at a certain point, if you accept the frenzied flame (no matter how bad it is) and stop fighting it it goes from making you frantic to making you seem calm, gracious and content
the dlc was so hard for me on my first playthrough that i had to change my build several times with rennala. in the second playthrough with all of my fragments, it was way more managable but way more fun so i decided not to use a summon and fighting rellana, bayle, messmer, midra, and consort radahn was amazing leading them to be some of my favorite fights of the dlc,game , and series
For Messmer and Midra being the best bosses in the game imo they both need a lot more hp Messmer should have had two full health bars like malenia And midra should have like 20% more hp
Man I'm listening to this video while walking and I thought I'd be able to make my own list but this game has so many great bosses that I just can't make a top 10 list
I am really sad about the Promised Consort Fight. It is just a wee bit from perfection. Just removing Miquella's hair anf the cross slash would make the boss the best of all time imo.
@@xvimpexgg6853The cross slash is fine, you just need to position yourself right after each of his combos so you don’t get caught by it. If you try to end up behind Radahn to his right (your left) then one more roll to the left when it comes out will let you dodge the first two hits and then you can safely dodge the follow up. Radahn isn’t just about dodging his combos, it’s about dodging them in a way that won’t get you punished by whatever he does next too
Bro that’s like my top 10 too. My only complaints is Morgott and Maliketh feel waaaay too squishy. But gameplay wise that’s my top 10 as well. Mira would be lower I think but aside from that identical order too.
My top 10 elden ring bosses goes 10.Godrick 9.Rellana 8.Midra 7.Godfrey 6.Radabeast 5.Bayle 4.Morgott 3.Messmer(top 3 are super close) 2.Malenia 1.Promised consort
@@D0verking69 funnily really outside of Malenia and pcr the other bosses I find super hard are no where near as high Those two are just such a perfect mix for me of super fun but all super hard so I feel like a god when I beat them
I loved Rykard’s voice acting, it sounds super pained and forced, like this abomination has to try hard to do something as unnatural as talk in its current state.
1 Messmer the Impaler 2 Maliketh, the Black Blade 3 Bayle the Dread 4 Rellana, Twin Moon Knight 5 Divine Beast Dancing Lion 7 Promised Consort Radahn 8 Morgott, the Omen King 9 Radagon of the Golden Order + Elden Beast (Torrent!) 10 Malenia, Blade of Miquella But that's me
I fought rellana again last night as a spell blade and it was FUCKING sick. Its my second playthrough of the dlc using my mage and i made the build entirely around the weapon based spells complimenting the milady. Man it was so cool..we both fired glint blades at each other. I parried her and danced between her moves and the icing of the cake was completely erasing her projectiles with carian retaliation and launching them back at her. One of my favourite fights ever
not really to say ER boss design is reactive, it's more so that there is just more to learn due to added complexity. you can still learn a boss to the point where you know what's going on
My top 10 ER bosses post DLC: 10. Promised Consort 9. Rellana 8. Malenia 7. Bayle 6. Mohg 5. Morgott 4. Midra 3. Maliketh 2. Messmer* 1. Hoarah Loux *I am still unsure where to place Messmer in the top 3 but I’ll put him there for now since I absolutely love his fight in a similar magnitude to Maliketh and Hoarah Loux, which were my top 2 and 1 respectively in base game.
@@thebluehood35 Did you like Promised Consort Radahn more than OG Radahn? For me personally, the OG Radahn seems like the much better designed boss fight
@@Vengeance_I_m personally yes. After some time fighting OG Radahn, I didn’t enjoy him like I used to upon consecutive kills, especially since I tend to nohit bosses now (Though I’d give him credit tho. One my first playthrough he was an excellent experience but after nohitting him thrice with style builds, I don’t really enjoy him as much anymore). Consort Radahn on the other hand; I really love the entirety of the fight except for that one frame trap move that just forces you to play the game of positioning most of the time. He actually made me push myself into greater heights in skill and I love that about him (After my 1st kill, I aimed for hitless, then no aux hitless and finally Level 1 hitless; all without parries). I really enjoyed figuring out how to flawlessly dodge the illusions and I personally feel like they are actually really fun to tackle after figuring everything out. But yea, if it weren’t for the Frame Trap, Promised Consort would easily be in my top 3. So yea, for reference, Starscourge Radahn would be around my top 11 or 13
@@thebluehood35 Oh I see. Yeah I can see how Promised Consort could be much more fun, since that fight requires much more skill, essentially timing and positioning. OG Radahn has one of the best build ups and presentations ever, has a really neat gimmick of summoning your own small army to take him down and his initial ranged attacks after entering the arena. Like by first impressions, Starscourge Radahn is one of the best fights ever. But for me too, the fight became boring, repetitive and annoying on consecutive playthrough. Now I simply always make it so he stops shooting arrows by running out of reach, never summon and simply hide close to Leanoard and hit Radahn's crotch, while not having to see what he's doing and his attacks flying over me. Simply unfun fight mechanics wise. Humanoid bosses with legs are much more engaging and fun. So yeah I could see why Consort could be better for some people. But still imo a lot of things in his fight need to be tweaked for the fight to be really fun and balanced
@@Vengeance_I_m speaking of, I’ve tried the Vanilla Plus Radahn mod and that fight made Radahn a lot better for consecutive runs. You should give that a try if you’re on PC
Rellana's become my favourite fight in the whole game, precisely because she has a great learning curve. She hits hard and fast, so at first you play a bit defensive and look for obvious openings, but they're so rare you almost always - unless you're one of those hitless pro players - likely to take a hit of some kind if you play that way. Once you figure out that you need to be going for hits, before she goes for hers, it becomes brilliant. You see her popping her glintblade phalanx? Run in, get those hits, run out. That's literally how I beat her, after many tries. Got her low, dodged the moons, just bursted her in a crazy trade-off as she phalaxnx'd. Not a clean win, but goddamn it was a fun one.
Bayle the Dread...personally is the strongest boss in the dlc, and the best boss I have faced in the entire souls series, maybe in all video games tbh.
The only problem I had with Messmer was that he was too easy. I was around midway through my SotE playthrough, and notably underleveled but I could still script his second phase down to about 15% health with the right gear somewhat reliably. I would also have included both iterations of Radahn in this top 10. SC Radahn has a buildup on par with Bayle, and one of the most epic arenas and battles. PC Radahn is challenging but mostly fair, like malenia, and a visual spectacle.
Solid list, SOTE bosses were amazing, they really cooked with this dlc. Imo the lineup of major bosses after the dlc is now the best in the franchise. My rankings would go like: 1. Malenia, Blade of Miquella 2. Messmer the Impaler 3. Bayle the Dread 4. Godfrey, First Elden Lord 5. Mohg, Lord of Blood 6. Radahn, Consort of Miquella 7. Midra, Lord of Frenzied Flame 8. Radagon/Elden Beast 9. Maliketh, the Black Blade 10. Rellana, Twin Moon Knight Sad I cant include more than 10 in my top 10, so many good fights
I am stilll unsure on torrent I really liked them without it tbh Will have to see when I fightt hem But as one of the few eb glazers hope torrent will make people like the more
Idk why everyone says that about Rykard's voice🤣 I think it's awesome! "A serpent never dies." Chills. Also. Imma let you all know. I 100% use Torrent to dodge Elden Beasts' circle attack. So much easier to dodge that
"Now I fight as Hoarah Loux: Warrior" is the only thing keeping this man from the number one spot This line is so so so bad. I can't embrace it, no matter how much I love this boss fight
I don't really like Bayle that much because of the camera and all the craziness in phase 2 (I already dislike dragon fights), but I mostly agree with the rest of the list. Midra, Mohg and Messmer are my top 3.
I think that bayle is one of their best dragon fights and is a great fight but I kind of agree about dragon fights just not being as good as the other types of bosses. Theres something about them that just doesnt let them achieve the same level of bosses like slave knight gael or messmer
I don’t get the Midra hype. I think he’s a great boss but above Godfrey and Mogh AND Maliketh is crazy. Top 3 in all of Elden Ring is a stretch. I do agree with most of this list though
very random thought, but you briefly mentioned how combat n mechanics in general is maxed out. and though I do sort of agree, within the context of Elden ring ofc. I think introducing the jump and crouch mechanics and NOT having many attacks that require those was intentional (I hope). gives us time to familiarize ourselves with these mechanics within combat, and get used to using them if we feel like it, though not necessary for any attack. however I hope the next game pushes it further and has attacks that you HAVE to jump over or crouch under. otherwise the hitbox will pull you with and eventually you get hit even after your roll ends. I feel like it’s the next logical step in turning up the difficulty. we’re all getting better at souls games as they continue to become more challenging, and a lot of people will be disappointed if the trend of getting more challenging doesn’t continue, so obviously some change is needed for the next entry.
My favourite boss: Messmer. He might not have my favourite moveset, my favourite presentation nor my favourite OST... but he is EXCELLENT in all 3 (well maybe not ost, but still very good). Which easily puts him as my number 1. Hardest boss: Malenia and Radahn x Miquella tied. They are both insanely hard, very punishing and overwhelming. My favourite DLC: either Shadow of the Erdtree or Ringed City. SotE has way more content, but Ringed City has my favourite boss of all time (Gael) and I found its story more satysfying than that of the Elden Ring DLC.
Massively overrated, the fight is really good but he is so edgy I can't take him seriously, his appearance is odd, and his second phase is dissaponting
He was easy for me until I decided for one of my playthroughs to use holy moonlight sword. Using that slow sword on gehrman made me struggle so much more. On that playthrough I found hjm harder than the dlc bosses
@@Nightwalk2 I think it depends on weapons because he was easy for me when I was using faster weapons but when I switched to a slower weapon it became so much more difficult because he was too fast for me to get hits in
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It's refreshing to see a youtuber actually enjoy the boss design in this game and the dlc, I personally really enjoy the more complex movesets because of the added replay value. They seem so absurd at first but you can really perfect them with time. I can't enjoy dark souls 3 the same way anymore because the bosses don't really challenge me atp.
I have enjoyed all the souls games and eventhough the ds3 bosses might not be as challenging today i still adore its boss lineup and how most encounters have top tier music and a moveset which is not the most complex but atleast very fair
people just bitch because they find it too hard. elden ring and the dlc are both near perfect
@@drpeepee05Define fair? What does that mean exactly? Because I always hear this made up category from players, but this word doesn't seem to have a consistent and exact meaning. People use this word to describe everything they don't understand about the boss. For me most of the Elden Ring bosses seem fair after mastering them, same thing with DS3. I honestly don't see how Elden Ring bosses can be less "fair", maybe it could seem that way when you're bad against Elden Ring bosses, was the case for me back when I was only starting. Like I genuinely want to know what would make bosses like Messmer, Rellana and Bayle feel less "fair" than Friede, Gael and Midir for example
@@Vengeance_I_m love this comment. Although this wasn't directed at me, I classify "unfair" bosses or moves by if they are clearly cheap or broken. Examples when Bayle transitions to 2nd phase sometimes he flies through the wall and your camera unlocks and it messes you up badly. Also things like the camera in the golden hippo fight and not being able to see what he does because half the time ur stuck in his body. Gaius charge is technically fair if your light rolling and relatively easy and consistent to dodge, but I'd consider this charge overly punishing and unfair if you are medium rolling. Despite pointing out a few moves from the DLC the bosses are extremely fair and the people saying they aren't do not understand the boss mechanics well enough. Some people bitching about massive AOEs clearly don't even know you can just them with a single roll or jump and the timings on most are very forgiving
@@Luxuriouswhite you can dodge it easily with med roll. and also jumping makes aoe attacks a joke, even that massive placi style bayle attack when he blows up a lightning spear in the ground is funnily enough, jumpable. no joke you can just jump in front of his face when he does that attack and he'll miss, it looks funny af and you'll get a huge window to kick his ass.
Midra’s 5 hit frenzied flame combo has got to be one of the best moves in the entire series
midras fivehit, malikeths tripleblade 360 slash and messmers assault are my favorites
@@Stanzbey69 Bayle's phase transition flying has got to be up there too. Pure cinema
@@Blackblade-NeX absolutely agree. Messmer’s assault is beautiful especially. I also love radahn’s 5 hit bread and butter combo as well as the meteor + lightclones ability in the second phase
@@Vengeance_I_m best phase transition of any boss tbh. Though midra has a beautiful transition too. As well as gael’s third phase or both of isshin’s second phases
@@Vengeance_I_m cinema doesnt make it good though. It looks cool but the mechanics are just like placidussax, floating in the air regaining posture and wasting time
The thought of Mohg playing a ukele in an apology video is truly disturbing.
Messmer to me is the coalescence of all of fromsoftwares learnings over the years. Each piece of their iconic catalogue served as the springboard for their next.
Messmer has, in my opinion, their best combat design, amazing character design, and a lore driven OST which compliments his character perfectly.
Messmer and Malenia are both my favourite bosses in elden ring. This DLC was amazing.
@@jordan.d1475 Yes, 💯. He's essentially Malenia done right, basically a fluid dance and thrilling, peak, anime-like battle. Both would be similar in quality and regarded as the best bosses ever if Waterfowl Dance attack didn't exist. Malenia's still fun fight though, but her immeasurable potential was ruined due to that move. Honestly yes Messmer is such a great boss and imo is the best boss in SoulsBorne history. This DLC gave us so many banger bosses it's insane
@@Vengeance_I_m to be honest when you learn the dodge pattern of waterfowl it really isn't that problematic. I think they are difficult for different reasons. Malenia has the ability to delete you if you do not measure your aggression but she also provides lulls in her overwhelming aggression. Messmer's attacks in isolation are very manageable however he is very aggressive in both phases incessantly.
@@jordan.d1475 The problem is that the attack is 100x harder than others in the fight and can come out at any point in time + has no limit on how many times it can happen. She can also instantly animation cancel into the attack which can make you unable to run away and you have to use the extremely unintuitive way to dodge by rotating around her. Essentially her difficulty is entirely rng. You might have a fight with 0 waterfowl and she's one of the easier bosses in the game.
@@hachikuji_mayoi100% agree but i have to say i havent seen many people talk about it but i see alot of mohg in messmer his delayed attacks and direction specific dodges are the clear inspirations i see
I agree I honestly wish Mesmer had two health bars like Malenia
Midra is my favourite boss in Elden Ring. It's proof that an amazing boss isn't just about difficulty, but about spectacle and flow too. He's not too hard but he's fun and the setting helps too.
Personally I think Messmer is better but in my first playthrough in terms of enjoyment Midra is number 1. Probably in my top 5 fromsoft bosses
@@dtanobo Midra is an amazing boss fight with great spectacle and clean moves, but he's too simple and easy to learn imo, still harder than almost any DS3 boss, but according Elden Ring bosses' level of complexity and variety, he seems to be the very easiest moveset wise. But yeah honestly just as you put it, boss' quality isn't always about the difficulty and Midra is a great example of it. Definitely an S tier boss and up there with greatest bosses Fromsoft has ever made
@@Vengeance_I_mI agree , I much prefer the likes of Bayle, Maliketh, and even Melania over Midra. Midra is awesome but he just didn't challenge me enough. He's just lacking that little bit extra that would put him in the S tier for me.
@@grimreefer213 +++. Although Malenia has one big issue (waterfowl dance), overall she's in my top 5 favourite boss fights and I always enjoy fighting her, fight is like a dance. Messmer is the same for me (except it's one of the cleanest fights I've ever seen, where every move is dodgeable). Maliketh, Radagon, Mohg, Godfrey, Morgott, Rellana. All of these are absolutely great fights, one of the best bosses in all of SoulsBorne imo. Midra would be an S tier, the best fight in any other Fromsoft game, but unfortunately for Elden Ring he's too simple and easy to be at the very top. Like it's funny that Margit, literally the first major boss in Elden Ring, is slightly more complex than freaking Midra, really goes to show how much Fromsoft cooked with bosses in this game
@@Vengeance_I_m For real, I understand Melania is not for everybody and she's very clearly overtuned and has a lot of issues, but it's that she's overtuned that kinda made it special to me. I spent so much time mastering the perfect punish windows and learning how to dodge waterfowl dance and the spirit clone attack perfectly, it made the fight so much more engaging and memorable for me. Midra is very nice to fight and flows well but it almost feels like a DS3 boss in Elden Ring. I get that a lot of people will like it for that reason in that it's pretty intuitive and you get a lot of big punish opportunities, but it's these other bosses like Maliketh, Margit/Morgott, Godfrey, Melania etc. where you have to work a little bit to unlock the best punish opportunities that makes them more interesting I think. Of course there are ways to trivialize bosses especially in the base game so your mileage may vary, and I still need to fight the DLC bosses more.
Popular opinion : maliketh should start his second phase with full health.
Facts
I always thought that he should still be mid-life in his second phase but only on the first try you put him in phase 2. When you come back, only Maliketh remains with a full health-bar
That will be hell without the claw
Messmer was the first boss since Slave Knight Gael where I actually felt goosebumps throughout my whole body while fighting him. That should tell you all you need to know about how epic his fight truly is
But he's not the final boss (?)
Honestly if Midra had a phase 3 he would probably be the best boss in fromsoft history eclipsing gael and isshin. Especially since they kinda just scratched the surface with the frenzy idea. Still a phenomenal fight, just wish they went crazier.
Fr they could gone wayyyy harder with him
So with Maliketh I feel the exact same way about Morgott. He is also kind of a glass canon and I wish his fight would last longer
Morgott would probably be my favorite boss in the game if he was scaled up in health by like 40%
@@DeltaRaven97 Yep one of the best bosses ever made, very underrated imo. Also, funny how Margit version, literally the first major boss in Elden Ring, is one of the most complex and detailed boss fights we got in all of Fromsoft.
@@DeltaRaven97 for me he Is the best boss in the game, he Is Just peak elden ring gameplay with positional openings, jumpable tail swipes and delayed Attacks with can let you get AN hit inbetween. As his low health i Simply use a +0 weapon and i actually really enjoy it
I think Malikeths low health is balanced out with his extremely high damage output and destined death in phase 2
@@bigchonc1 yeah imo should've been vice versa. Maliketh is very rough for newbies due to extremely high amount of damage he deals to a player but he has very little HP and poise. Would be much better and more balanced if his damage output was slightly tuned and he was more tanky
Rellana puts both swords by her side when shes finished a combo. Thats how you know, if they arent by her side she has a chance to combo into more. There are patterns to it people need to learn them and not just complain. Speaking in general not to you bro 😂
Yeah, the complaining is way over the top.
@@Nightwalk2 i think your top 3 are based btw. Deffinately the best 3 fights from the dlc. I actually have a soft spot for Gaius now that iv done a few no hit fights on him 😂 but i think my favourite 3 are bayle malenia and messmer
Amazing tier-list! Man Elden Ring boss roster especially after DLC is freaking unmatched, FromSoft have outdone themselves with it. Most of my top 10 Souls bosses are from Elden Ring. Just amazing.
@@HeyTarnished Yup same with me. Elden Ring has some of the best boss fights in the whole genre. They're so underrated and overhated imo, eventually after Elden Ring hate train is gone, after a few years a lot of players will recall and appreciate how awesome, engaging and fun the game and bosses are. After multiple Elden Ring playthroughs I'm so thankful that the game has honed my skills so much and has taught me so much about strong mentality/ways to approach problems. After I mastered Elden Ring every other game including Sekiro was so easy, because I've learned from Elden Ring that you see the enemy -> you learn (instead of whining, giving up and going hollow), you endure and prevail. Funny that Berserk's philosophy is essentially the same, moving on and staying strong no matter what, Myiazaki is big Berserk fanboy after all :). I hope more people where chill and could see the true beauty of the game, instead of their ego getting in the way
@@Vengeance_I_m So true I agree with everything, seems like more and more people are starting to see the real value of Elden Ring’s bosses and they’re like “Oh…that’s why” with it now and are loving it.
@@HeyTarnished Most of these cry babys are old fans who didn't adeptet to the new mechanics. Fans who played ER as their first game don't even complain that much.
@@xvimpexgg6853 Fans who played ER as their first game likely also used spirit summons and some other cheesy weapon, meaning that they have nothing to complain about boss wise because they do not need to learn patterns.
@@mark10291 It's not though, many people played them without summons & thought they're amazing & fair.
Messmer is the best boss in the entire DLC and one of the best Fromsoft bosses ever created. ❤
easily
Agree with the top 2 100%. They are some of the best bosses in the entire series
Messmer is the greatest boss of all time
I like how this list starts with a snake boss and ends with a snake boss
Messmer and rellana are my 2 new favourites. Super fun, music was great, the spectacle of it all was perfect, and it was fair
The fact that 7 out of the 10 DLC remembrance bosses have no cutscene or any dialogue is incredibly disappointing
Agreed. The ones that do are so cool makes me sad that there weren’t more.
6*
I think it might be 6 not 7 🤓
Well Messmer, Radahn, Midra and Dancing Liion have cutscenes so that would be 6 rather than 7 I believe
Messmer needs two health bars, why can't we have that, why does malenia get two bars but not messmer or Godfrey or maliketh they deserve it more
@@purehollow Midra too, he's too squishy for such a cool and powerful character lore-wise
@@Vengeance_I_mMidra actually has the most health in the DLC at 47171. His poise is fairly low tho at 80, whereas most bosses have 120
If he has too little health just fight him with a lower scadutree blessing. I fought him at +8 and he was very tanky.
@@zaynthemane great advice. But unfortunately average gamers won't do that specifically and won't be able to appreciate Midra that much because he's too easy for their broken meta builds, which is very sad imo. Very great and underrated boss.
@@zaynthemane great advise i capped myself at +10 scadu bcs i felt that i was doing to much damage
The first time I beat Messmer I died dozens of times and yet I never once got mad, it felt not only fair but also super fun. The OST for messmer is probably my favorite of the entire dlc and base game, that choir that plays during his phase transition cutscene is probably my favorite part.
He’s just fun and the only other bosses fromsoft made that felt like this were Slave knight Gael and Holy Blade Ludwig.
Truly some of Fromsoftwares best work.
Bayle was the first time since gael that i came away from a fight absolutely stunned with how amazing it was. Messmer was close, but to me he just couldnt match the absolute spectacle. Bayles 2nd phase transition still gives me shivers every time i see it
Messmer is definitely a top 3 fromsoftware bosses ever🔥
Imo top 3 are all from DS3
@@grayhat_9x Gael still top 1 tho
@@grayhat_9xwhat are they? Gael is the only one who should be there
@@grayhat_9x I'll give you Gael but no other boss is better than Isshin or Mesmer or Bayle
My top 3 is gael, isshin, messmer
Fromsoft did it again! Best bosses are in the dlc right when we think the base game bosses are peak
Messmer will be my first leg tattoo
let me know how it turns out!
Fellow elden beast enjoyer 🤝🏽
Unite with me, brother
The top 3 couldnt be more correct. These 3 run chills through my spine. Messmer, especially, with all the OST's desperation and sorrow it sears me in two while pumping my adreneline to 100.
Brilliance
In an age of so many critical or even negative youtubersI absolutely love your enthusiasm. It helps after checking out your channel you love Black Country, New Road 😂 you need a discord bro
I do have one for my music channel, I’ve abandoned it though as it was a bit much to manage haha.
Glad you enjoyed. I know, I’m just here to talk about games I love, simple as that :)
i like mohg a lot because you can get to him faster than to any other endgame boss. literally 1 simple questline and you're there. and that gives you an opportunity to get to level 80 really fast and he's fairly easy to fight. he's sort of like four kings from ds1, that you can get to real quick and reach endgame level requirements before fighting any other hard bosses, or like dancer of the boreal valley in ds3. i know that he's hard but id'd say he's the easiest out of all endgame bosses and if you have +10 somber and like 40 vigor you'll be able to defeat him quite easily.
I found him the second hardest out of all the endgame bosses in the base game. Only one who's harder is Malenia obviously.
@@static4802 i find godfrey and radagon to be harder because they're much faster, and maliketh cus he hits like a truck, and malenia yeah, malenia is the hardest.
Great list, Elden Ring has so many unique encounters that everyone will have shuffled top 10s. I completely agree on number 1. My list would look like:
1. Messmer the Impaler
2. Morgott the Omen King
3. Maliketh the Black Blade
4. Bayle the Dread
5. Rellana, Twin Moon Knight
6. Mohg, Lord of Blood
7. Godfrey, the First Elden Lord
8. Malenia, Blade of Miquella
9. Divine Beast Dancing Lion (It's difficult to explain why i like this boss' theme, design and moveset so much lol)
10. Midra, Lord of Frenzied Flame
It's painful to omit so many great bosses, but it just shows how great Elden Ring's overall catalogue is now. Love your videos, keep it up Nightwalk! I still remember you reacting to In Rainbows for the first time, feels like ages ago.
Nice list
The thing i like about bayle is if you do like to attack the feet and legs, his stump takes more damage similar to the results you'd get from hitting his head
Yeah! There’s more options which is great.
This is a very solid list but the fact that the dancing lion wasnt on this list vexes me
@@static4802 it's a bit messy are but you just gotta be aware of the surroundings. The camera is only really a problem when the boss pushes you back to the walls bringing the camera closer. Otherwise it's not too bad. And the ost and its fluid but freaky animations and AWESOME spectacle really sell it for me
I personally hated the lightning phase, any tips on how deal with it?
I always find it crazy that torrent is more afraid of the flame of frenzy than he is of fighting a giant cosmic outer god that can change the landscape at will lol
Flame of frenzy is the only thing that can kill him permanently
Yeah cause it can kill spirits, right?
I don't think Rykard should be here. He can only be fought using a weapon you find in his arena, meaning you can't use the build you've worked so hard on. he also has some really stupid, undodgeable attacks. My pick for a number 10 would be Divine Dancing Lion from the DLC. It is sort of a Margit fight in the sense that its early game but quite difficult and punishing, making you explore more before you come back. Has amazing design and 3 seperate elemental phases, making every fight with him different.
Soundtrack is also amazing
All of his attacks can be dodged, but the upheaval is the only one where a case for unfairness can be argued. But even then, that can be dodged by running to the right and jumping. Moreover, you're very much misrepresenting the boss, stating things that outright aren't true, such as the spear being the only way to be able to fight him; It feels like intentionally or not, you're downtalking the boss to elevate the dancing lion. There are still very viable ways to fight him without the Serpent Hunter, such as shard spiral (very deadly against very large enemies like Rykard) and frostbite procs, which could easily be used by any build. Take this from someone who actually fought him without that great spear and has video proof; If you know what you're doing, it's more than possible. Moreover, the gimmick weapon is a part of the appeal of the boss. Like Storm Ruler with Yhorm or the Storm King. Not to mention an important bit of lore. It was a weapon DESIGNED to kill the likes of Rykard.
I am happy Elden Beast got some love, a very overhated part of the final boss.
It looks beautiful and the music is majestic and honestly, the boss running away has never been an issue, i love the feeling of running towards this being we cannot comprehend at the end of the journey.
holy shit thats actually a pretty good top 10, don't even know if i would change it...i think its pretty much the same of mine
I love that at a certain point, if you accept the frenzied flame (no matter how bad it is) and stop fighting it it goes from making you frantic to making you seem calm, gracious and content
Your not alone we are a duo of elden beast defenders
Midrange was the perfect fight for me imo, every move felt do majestic and the cutscene was out of this world
the dlc was so hard for me on my first playthrough that i had to change my build several times with rennala. in the second playthrough with all of my fragments, it was way more managable but way more fun so i decided not to use a summon and fighting rellana, bayle, messmer, midra, and consort radahn was amazing leading them to be some of my favorite fights of the dlc,game , and series
For Messmer and Midra being the best bosses in the game imo they both need a lot more hp
Messmer should have had two full health bars like malenia
And midra should have like 20% more hp
Yeah, I tried to use only a max of 5 fragments as a self-imposed challenge and I can confirm that they are a fun challenge at that level
bravo! amazing video. midra is probably my favorite so far from dlc for all the reasons you went over. such a beautiful yet horrific experience
Man I'm listening to this video while walking and I thought I'd be able to make my own list but this game has so many great bosses that I just can't make a top 10 list
Rykard will always be my favourite.
Rykard is sooooo underrated
Great video, really enjoy your authentency and enthusiasm. Cheers from Germany
Elden ring has many incredible bosses which you can't include in just a top 10 list but having left out of the list malenia and radahn feels wrong
at this point, it’s a consensus in the community that Messmer, Midra, and Bayle are all interchangeably the top 3 and I’m all for it
I wish Bayle had a cutscene, that would’ve made the fight even greater in terms of spectacle for me
I am really sad about the Promised Consort Fight. It is just a wee bit from perfection. Just removing Miquella's hair anf the cross slash would make the boss the best of all time imo.
If they nerf the double cross slash, Im fine with the fight
@@xvimpexgg6853The cross slash is fine, you just need to position yourself right after each of his combos so you don’t get caught by it. If you try to end up behind Radahn to his right (your left) then one more roll to the left when it comes out will let you dodge the first two hits and then you can safely dodge the follow up. Radahn isn’t just about dodging his combos, it’s about dodging them in a way that won’t get you punished by whatever he does next too
@@AR-bj5et Intresting. I will test this out on my next run
Bro that’s like my top 10 too.
My only complaints is Morgott and Maliketh feel waaaay too squishy. But gameplay wise that’s my top 10 as well. Mira would be lower I think but aside from that identical order too.
im so so so so very happy #1 isnt miquella, messmer deserves it more
My top 10 elden ring bosses goes
10.Godrick
9.Rellana
8.Midra
7.Godfrey
6.Radabeast
5.Bayle
4.Morgott
3.Messmer(top 3 are super close)
2.Malenia
1.Promised consort
Man, you like really hard bosses huh? cool list btw
@@D0verking69 funnily really outside of Malenia and pcr the other bosses I find super hard are no where near as high
Those two are just such a perfect mix for me of super fun but all super hard so I feel like a god when I beat them
Malenia and Promised Consort?? LOL.
@@Al-ji4gd I love the pacing of their fights so much
It feels so fun with how much of a back and forth they are
Bro forgot the all knowing
You should do a ranking for "favourite boss/enemy moves" just visually or the impact or you find it fun to get hit by.
Couldnt agree more with your top 3👌🔥
I loved Rykard’s voice acting, it sounds super pained and forced, like this abomination has to try hard to do something as unnatural as talk in its current state.
Shoutout to Maliketh clipping inside the pillars and having to teleport back to the center of the arena.
1 Messmer the Impaler
2 Maliketh, the Black Blade
3 Bayle the Dread
4 Rellana, Twin Moon Knight
5 Divine Beast Dancing Lion
7 Promised Consort Radahn
8 Morgott, the Omen King
9 Radagon of the Golden Order + Elden Beast (Torrent!)
10 Malenia, Blade of Miquella
But that's me
I fought rellana again last night as a spell blade and it was FUCKING sick. Its my second playthrough of the dlc using my mage and i made the build entirely around the weapon based spells complimenting the milady. Man it was so cool..we both fired glint blades at each other. I parried her and danced between her moves and the icing of the cake was completely erasing her projectiles with carian retaliation and launching them back at her. One of my favourite fights ever
not really to say ER boss design is reactive, it's more so that there is just more to learn due to added complexity. you can still learn a boss to the point where you know what's going on
My top 5:
1 Messmer
2 Midra
3 Godfrey
4 Bayle
5 Maliketh
For me bayle is the easiest number one of all time he beats mohg he beats GAEL he is the goat
I wish Messmer had two health bars but that's my only complaint.
I think his health pool was perfect
My top 10 ER bosses post DLC:
10. Promised Consort
9. Rellana
8. Malenia
7. Bayle
6. Mohg
5. Morgott
4. Midra
3. Maliketh
2. Messmer*
1. Hoarah Loux
*I am still unsure where to place Messmer in the top 3 but I’ll put him there for now since I absolutely love his fight in a similar magnitude to Maliketh and Hoarah Loux, which were my top 2 and 1 respectively in base game.
@@thebluehood35 Did you like Promised Consort Radahn more than OG Radahn? For me personally, the OG Radahn seems like the much better designed boss fight
@@Vengeance_I_m personally yes. After some time fighting OG Radahn, I didn’t enjoy him like I used to upon consecutive kills, especially since I tend to nohit bosses now (Though I’d give him credit tho. One my first playthrough he was an excellent experience but after nohitting him thrice with style builds, I don’t really enjoy him as much anymore). Consort Radahn on the other hand; I really love the entirety of the fight except for that one frame trap move that just forces you to play the game of positioning most of the time. He actually made me push myself into greater heights in skill and I love that about him (After my 1st kill, I aimed for hitless, then no aux hitless and finally Level 1 hitless; all without parries). I really enjoyed figuring out how to flawlessly dodge the illusions and I personally feel like they are actually really fun to tackle after figuring everything out. But yea, if it weren’t for the Frame Trap, Promised Consort would easily be in my top 3.
So yea, for reference, Starscourge Radahn would be around my top 11 or 13
@@thebluehood35 Oh I see. Yeah I can see how Promised Consort could be much more fun, since that fight requires much more skill, essentially timing and positioning. OG Radahn has one of the best build ups and presentations ever, has a really neat gimmick of summoning your own small army to take him down and his initial ranged attacks after entering the arena. Like by first impressions, Starscourge Radahn is one of the best fights ever. But for me too, the fight became boring, repetitive and annoying on consecutive playthrough. Now I simply always make it so he stops shooting arrows by running out of reach, never summon and simply hide close to Leanoard and hit Radahn's crotch, while not having to see what he's doing and his attacks flying over me. Simply unfun fight mechanics wise. Humanoid bosses with legs are much more engaging and fun. So yeah I could see why Consort could be better for some people. But still imo a lot of things in his fight need to be tweaked for the fight to be really fun and balanced
@@Vengeance_I_m speaking of, I’ve tried the Vanilla Plus Radahn mod and that fight made Radahn a lot better for consecutive runs. You should give that a try if you’re on PC
Mohg Lord of GOAT 🗣🔥
1I'll be honest: I summoned vs Messmer and couldn't beat him until the 3rd time. I love his design and character. wonderful boss, great at #1
I feel like maliketh would have been a lot better if he had seperate healthbars for each phase
Rellana's become my favourite fight in the whole game, precisely because she has a great learning curve. She hits hard and fast, so at first you play a bit defensive and look for obvious openings, but they're so rare you almost always - unless you're one of those hitless pro players - likely to take a hit of some kind if you play that way. Once you figure out that you need to be going for hits, before she goes for hers, it becomes brilliant. You see her popping her glintblade phalanx? Run in, get those hits, run out. That's literally how I beat her, after many tries. Got her low, dodged the moons, just bursted her in a crazy trade-off as she phalaxnx'd. Not a clean win, but goddamn it was a fun one.
Bayle the Dread...personally is the strongest boss in the dlc, and the best boss I have faced in the entire souls series, maybe in all video games tbh.
Only change is I feel Godrick deserves a spot. Not super challenging but incredible in both moveset and visual/score design
Rellana deserved to have a cutscene and dialogue
The only problem I had with Messmer was that he was too easy. I was around midway through my SotE playthrough, and notably underleveled but I could still script his second phase down to about 15% health with the right gear somewhat reliably.
I would also have included both iterations of Radahn in this top 10. SC Radahn has a buildup on par with Bayle, and one of the most epic arenas and battles. PC Radahn is challenging but mostly fair, like malenia, and a visual spectacle.
MESSMER 🐐
Man the top 3 is always so predictable. Midra, Bayle, and Messmer all the time. Can't blame you tho they are great bosses.
Love your sense of humor. Great video.
Thanks a ton, glad you enjoyed 😎
Solid list, SOTE bosses were amazing, they really cooked with this dlc.
Imo the lineup of major bosses after the dlc is now the best in the franchise.
My rankings would go like:
1. Malenia, Blade of Miquella
2. Messmer the Impaler
3. Bayle the Dread
4. Godfrey, First Elden Lord
5. Mohg, Lord of Blood
6. Radahn, Consort of Miquella
7. Midra, Lord of Frenzied Flame
8. Radagon/Elden Beast
9. Maliketh, the Black Blade
10. Rellana, Twin Moon Knight
Sad I cant include more than 10 in my top 10, so many good fights
I am stilll unsure on torrent
I really liked them without it tbh
Will have to see when I fightt hem
But as one of the few eb glazers hope torrent will make people like the more
My Top 5 Elden Ring Bosses:
5- Dragonlord Placidusax
4- Rykard
3- Starscourge Radahn
2- Mohg, Lord of Blood
1- Messmer the Impaler
I can think of something Messmer disappoints with: his health bar. The fight is too short. Doesn't undermine your point at all, though.
Good fnk job mate! Very entertaining video, altough my list is slightly different.
Glad you enjoyed!
only problem with Messmer is that he has the Morgott and Maliketh problem of too little HP
i wish maliketh switched to his final phase at like a quarter of health loss like promised consort
fucking amazing video , i cant believe i'm showing it to all my friends and family
Hahahaha thanks
Malenia would probably be on my top 5 but you also have a nice list
Idk why everyone says that about Rykard's voice🤣 I think it's awesome! "A serpent never dies." Chills. Also. Imma let you all know. I 100% use Torrent to dodge Elden Beasts' circle attack. So much easier to dodge that
Great list! I would have only replaced Rykard with either Radahn or Fire Giant because i don't like gimmick bosses
Rellana was Bloodborne all over again. I love reactive fighs
Rellana so low is a crime
"Now I fight as Hoarah Loux: Warrior" is the only thing keeping this man from the number one spot
This line is so so so bad. I can't embrace it, no matter how much I love this boss fight
One line? really?
@Al-ji4gd it's a hyperbole to highlight how bad the line is
I don't really like Bayle that much because of the camera and all the craziness in phase 2 (I already dislike dragon fights), but I mostly agree with the rest of the list. Midra, Mohg and Messmer are my top 3.
garbage take loser bayle is greatness itself
@@gs32621 Nah, just another mid dragon fight. I don't care how many FromSoft fanboys disagree.
@@gs32621 Chill bruh its just some guys opinion
@@D0verking69 dont tell me to chill on defending the 2nd best boss of all time
I think that bayle is one of their best dragon fights and is a great fight but I kind of agree about dragon fights just not being as good as the other types of bosses. Theres something about them that just doesnt let them achieve the same level of bosses like slave knight gael or messmer
I don’t get the Midra hype. I think he’s a great boss but above Godfrey and Mogh AND Maliketh is crazy. Top 3 in all of Elden Ring is a stretch. I do agree with most of this list though
Nah Bayle is the best, if only Maliketh had more moves hed be the best, appreciate you giving some love to Elden Beast.
Messmer Gael Isshin is my top three. Without a doubt in my mind Messmer is the greatest boss in any game.
very random thought, but you briefly mentioned how combat n mechanics in general is maxed out. and though I do sort of agree, within the context of Elden ring ofc. I think introducing the jump and crouch mechanics and NOT having many attacks that require those was intentional (I hope). gives us time to familiarize ourselves with these mechanics within combat, and get used to using them if we feel like it, though not necessary for any attack. however I hope the next game pushes it further and has attacks that you HAVE to jump over or crouch under. otherwise the hitbox will pull you with and eventually you get hit even after your roll ends. I feel like it’s the next logical step in turning up the difficulty. we’re all getting better at souls games as they continue to become more challenging, and a lot of people will be disappointed if the trend of getting more challenging doesn’t continue, so obviously some change is needed for the next entry.
Radagon deserved to be on this list imo
He is! At number 8!
@@Nightwalk2I skipped past that, i thought you just put elden beast at 8 😭
Loves how big of a nerd this guy is🔥
Messmer and Rellana are 1 and 2 for me. I'd even say they'd both make my top 5 Fromsoftware boss list.
My favourite boss: Messmer. He might not have my favourite moveset, my favourite presentation nor my favourite OST... but he is EXCELLENT in all 3 (well maybe not ost, but still very good). Which easily puts him as my number 1.
Hardest boss: Malenia and Radahn x Miquella tied. They are both insanely hard, very punishing and overwhelming.
My favourite DLC: either Shadow of the Erdtree or Ringed City. SotE has way more content, but Ringed City has my favourite boss of all time (Gael) and I found its story more satysfying than that of the Elden Ring DLC.
Agree with you and i would have put elden beast even higher ! It was a very poetic fight !
I think Messmer is slightly overrated but overall a very solid Tier list
He definitely is
Massively overrated, the fight is really good but he is so edgy I can't take him seriously, his appearance is odd, and his second phase is dissaponting
@RedFade he's not edgy tho
No, he is not overrated
Im sorry, but i can't let that slide "Gerhman is a pushover." he is like the best and hardest boss in the base game of bloodborne
He was easy for me until I decided for one of my playthroughs to use holy moonlight sword. Using that slow sword on gehrman made me struggle so much more. On that playthrough I found hjm harder than the dlc bosses
Really? I think I’ve died to him once in like 6 playthroughs.
@@Nightwalk2 I think it depends on weapons because he was easy for me when I was using faster weapons but when I switched to a slower weapon it became so much more difficult because he was too fast for me to get hits in