Retro NASCAR-Inspired 1960 Ford Starliner - The House Of Muscle Ep. 6
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- Owning a business that’s located at Sonoma Raceway in Northern California does have its benefits. Aside from having access to some of the greatest race cars ever created, being surrounded by speed is also a fantastic source of inspiration. Thus, it should come as no surprise that this 1960 Ford Galaxie Starliner is a product of its environment.
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I love that they didn't completely restore it, the kept the rust. It shows this car has lived a life. Too many muscle cars are to "perfect".
cars that look like this tell a story
i have a four door sedan same year of this car and i was up in the air about getting it repainted or just leaving it how it is and it's funny it seams to get a lot of attention the why it is and no one as ever asked me was i ever going to have it painted.
Yeah, rust is great! Even better when you put fake-aged paint over the top of it, and ignore what wheel size and interior a '60 nascar should have, and add modern air suspension.
If you want to leave a car original, leave it original. If you want to do a period build, do a period build. If you want to fix it up, fix it up. Just commit, one way or the other. I mean, obviously, your car- do what you want, but having something so fake-looking and half-ass is just a bad look, imo.
Camhin1 it's called patina
4 me in Sweden is the same here there is a great culture for American cars. But when you get to an event there are 14 similar chargers all black all the same year all the same. And
next to them there are 4 white caddilac 1959 all the same all the same
and they are completely renovated, what is the meaning of the culture if
everyone is the same. I want to see more varition.
Love this article and the Starliner! A pal of mine had a '60 Starliner like this one when we were in high school, a looooonnng time ago. It had the stock 352 with a slip-o-matic transmission, and the car was pretty sluggish. We replaced the 352 with a 406 and three 2 barrels, about like this car has. We also put in a T-10 four speed and 4:11 rear gears and Hooker headers. That made the Starliner really come to life. My friend installed a bubble hood and painted the car olive green with five spoke mags in front and chrome wheels on the rear. A few other goodies completed the package. We trounced more than a few unsuspecting challengers with the Starliner on the streets way back then. My friend and the Starliner are both gone now, but what fun we had and what great memories this video brought! Thank you guys!
My first car was a 1960 Sunliner Convertable, 352 360HP speed which had been converted to the floor with an Ansen shifter. I was a jr high school student. Took all the shop classes like you said you did. In 68, I bought a new Torino 390 4 speed. I still have it and I still have the girl I met the night I picked up the car.
love how the whole car starts flexing when he does the burnout.
hedlund88 bags
that show the quality
still flexing hard,, if the body was water people would surf it
Yeah, dat body wiggle tho...shake it, baby, shake it...!
shaaake and bake
Mike I like the way you are a "REAL" car enthusiast, its evident your love of classics and you appreciate ALL cars. When you were on DRIVE you made me realize the cars I have in my garage are meant to be driven and enjoyed, and from that mentality I have started driving my 64 Galaxie and realizing that it isn't sorted out yet and needs some work, its 75% there but I am hoping to have more miles on it this year then I have put on in the past 5 years. Thank you for you perspective, inspiration, and appreciation of the hobby!!
the 1960 Ford was my all-time fave full size Ford ever! It was just plain smooth!
I got my driving license in a plain Jane 60 Ford Custom 9 door straight 6 in Toronto 1960.
That floppy round bit in front of the driver is called the "Suggestion Wheel". You use it to 'suggest' the car turn left or right.
Still does the same job, it just a delay. It's a test of patients.
youre like a bad doctor...with no patience
zing
We always called it the target recticle, until Aunt Maggie got a caddy with a tilt wheel, she was the perfect height to see almost center spoke of the wheel. Cause you don't steer big cars, you *AIM* them.
With the way people drive today if they were to drive a car with lots of steering play and wrap it around a tree, it could mean that it was a literal test of patients. ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)
The steering box just needs to be adjusted. Does no one know how do do this anymore? Takes three minutes.
Mike you are amazing host. I ended up watching all your videos on drive. Also this car is amazing the little details are wonderful.
Cheers and thank you!
This is such a dope car and such a dope platform to showcase it. Dont stop house or muscle ever. Love these beauties you get on the show.
This car SHOULD have a FULL restoration. Doing the "mechanicals", but letting the body continue to rot is a JOKE!
If you don't understand and love this build you no car guy!
I love a bench seat. I used to want bucket seats till I got a truck with them, now I miss my big wonderful bench.
Maan 3 on the tree. I miss those days in some ways. My family had an old Plymouth Duster with the 3 on the tree shift and the bench seats in front and back... Miss that car SO much. Used to sit outside and just stare at it for hours.
This car was originally "Three-on-the-Tree + O.D."
My Dad owned one of these in the 60's. It wasn't tricked out like this. Brings back memories.
It's kind of like Roadkill, but the cars actually work
basically big muscle
lol thats a good one
that car is bad ass. i like the old skool paint theme, plus its road legal. nice job👍
'60 was my favorite year for Ford products!
I had a 60 Starliner with the 352/360HP option. It was awesome!
AKA, the Thunderbird 352 Super. rare one indeed
Nice to see Mr. Musto doing well after /DRIVE - I was never really a muscle car guy but he always made it interesting to me on /BIG MUSCLE.
Lovely job on this car, too. Cheers.
Thank you!
my uncle has a 1964 Ford Galaxie 500XL Hardtop that he bought in 1970 all original and it's been his everyday car ever since,True OG🕶
insanely high powered canal boats with tires, great idea.
Out of all the Motor Trend channels, House of Muscle finds the coolest cars!
This show needs to be twice as long.
PLEASE!!
my friends parents have a 64 Galaxie 500 that's been sitting in their garage so long that I've never even heard of the tire brand. they refuse to sell it to me, even though they're probably moving out anyways. things mint, it's that deep red original paint
This is almost perfect. 16 inch period correct rims, a roll bar with a bunch of black electrical tape-wrapped foam rubber around it, and a rack and pinion steering set up would complete it for me. I used to race stock cars way back when, and we used to make huge steering motions to pitch the cars into the turns. If I tried that now, I'd probably tear a rotator cuff. Thanks for a look at a terrific car, just a work of art!
Love your star liner!!! And if people don't like your paint job, just tell them that paint don't make it run!!
GREAT SHOW LOVE THE CARS YOU PICK
Such an epic car! I love hearing these stories and seeing the cars behind them.
I'm a mopar fan first, but I have watched this video 3 times already. Great job creating the right style and sound!
I spent three years under the same autoshop teacher and received a college level auto education. So glad I went that route.
Star-liner! what a name! how 60's!much like oldsmobiles star-fire, just such an idyllic piece of early 60's astro-styling :)
Another great video Mike! Love the builds and your passion for the culture all around. Keep them coming, love them.
Bravo,well done and well said! Older cars in original condition have personality and presence! It is great with the mechanics and all original! Bravo!
Nice nice nice!!!!! 1960 thru 64 big bodied Fords were ultimate sleeper rods back in the 70's. Many high-school heroes proudly ran these cars, many handed down from parents or grand-parents then hopped up. Most had 390's some had 427/4 speeds.........all were nice, like the ford's version of the Impala.
I own a 1960 galaxie 2 door club sedan. There aren't to many people out there with these cars so it's really cool to see this one on a show!
I love this show! The selection of cars is great, stories are interesting and often some good tech. Hope you do way more episodes. This show deserves it. I like the host too.
Cheers!
One cool car man, makes me miss my 74 olds.
I remember my dad used to have a Monrwxalike yours. I loved that car, lots of childhood memorie,s come to mind, one in particular, he used to let me in my brother to jump in or on the car to foul around; pretending to know how to drive or to gaze up the sky.
thanks for sharing
I made my last comment before I finished watching the video. The comments about trade schools are spot-on. Not everyone is going to get a job staring at a monitor all day. thank goodness!
you guys find the coolest cars on this show.. i love it.
Thanks for posting this. I like the paint job. Love those bench seats. These are really rare. Really comfortable to drive. Designed to fit big Americans.
way cool video thanks for doing this one and thanks to the builder for keeping this car alive.
i like that mantra "Mechanics then Cosmetics" rust and dents gives the car Character in my eyes. Sure i drive a Custom Painted Neon. but it was painted long before i bought it and most the money I've put into it has gone into keeping it running. i love builds like this Starline, they remind me where i aim to go with my own car. plus its fun to park next to the guys that are more concerned about the look of their car then wipe that smirk off their face when your "junkyard trash" roars to life without the slightest belt squeal or or misfire.
I love your passion with cars Mike, great job
One of the best car talks I have yet heard. I one day want to owns vintage car....
Man I LOVE these old early '60s American land yachts, gives me flashbacks of my childhood these Ford Galaxies, Chevy Bel Airs, and Dodge Polaras. I remember my neighbor having an almost exact duplicate of this car except that it was bright shinely almost new red inside and out. Not much support by those skinny A-pillars in a roll-over but extremely clean looking. Thanks for the memories.
... Not much support by those skinny A-pillars ... - Yup. This rolls, you're dead.
Speaking of the steering wheel play, I used to be an EMT, and one of the few trusted drivers, of a very worn ambulance that had 4.5 inches of travel in each direction (9" total - and trust me, that is a conservative estimate of total free movement) before any input was noticed. This made it tough as all hell to drive down narrow old-Pittsburgh suburb streets (I learned to just keep bouncing the steering wheel side to side - all nine inches, and then some for steering input - just to get it to go straight through the narrow streets with parked cars right next to it).
David Hanny sounds horrifying lol
It was scary, but as a strictly volunteer ambulance service in the middle of a small not-wealthy suburb (Millvale, PA, back before it became incorporated into a different professional ambulance service's area), that ambulance was all they could afford. Driving it straight in narrow roads was tough enough, but I distinctly remember the challenge of driving it on an ice-sheet covered highway during a "state of emergency" (which means that nobody who isn't a public servant with fire, police, EMS, or the road crews was even allowed to be out in any truck or car) to get a heart-attack patient to a hospital. I was never closer to sure that we weren't going to make it - bouncing the steering wheel back and forth with the speed (in oscillations) needed to go straight, while also somehow not ever putting just that extra amount into it that would make the entire rig go loose and then wreck due to the slippery ice... that was crazy shit. To top it off, this was an ambulance with a box on it, but without dually tires - and the thing was that it was such an old ambulance box that it was far heavier than it should have been, which made the sidewalls of the tires flex too much. It would sway, wander, and be trying to fight the driver the entire time the driver was sweating bullets dealing with the ultra-loose steering box.
Someone should have come up with the 200 bucks for new steering box. Loot a corpse or two...
Sounds like my old ambulance, Unit 99, which was/is an '89 Diesel Econoline by Leader. Still running and looks like brand new. It's like driving a big boat. In California, we have no unit retirement age, so as long as the unit is in good shape they'll keep running them indefinitely. There are a few stations in Los Angeles that still run their Cadillac limo-units from the 1960's-1970's. Nothing else rides smoother than the older units.
I've certainly operated that era of ambulances - some of them were real dogs with diesel engines but, IIRC, they came without a turbo on them for a while (in fact, another ambulance authority I worked with ordered a new ambulance, but had it sent to a turrbo shop to add a turbo to it). The one I was writing of was of late 1970's to the latest it could have been was a 1980. It had a Ford van/econoline front, a 460 big-block gas motor, and what seemed to be one of the earliest narrow-boxes that was built far too heavily for a single rear tire on each side. IIRC, the word was that shortly after it was built, or by the time it was built, most ambulance builders gave up on the narrow boxes at that time until the aluminum industry caught up about ten or twelve years later - that way they could start making lighter boxes that weren't overloading the chassis.
Fantastic build!
Money into the mechanics, thank you for those words of wisdom!! This is how I live my life building my car, and this is also how a friend of mine lives his life building his car. That said, his is starting to get the looks to match the go. Mine.... not sooooo much.... But since I bought my car about 3 years ago, I have been the only one working on it :)
Sweet ride! Thanks, Mike and crew!!
Personally not a big ford fan but I have a soft spot for early 60s starliners. My grandpa had a 61 and he wishes he never sold it. I love this car, its so well done and looks absolutley amazing with the vintage/patina race car look.
That car is beautiful!
my dad and I have a 69 c-10 it's a factory creamsicle paint and had a inline 6 in it. my grandpa bought it off the original owner who used it as a work truck from 69-mid 90s. the first thing my grandpa did was put a 305 out of a boat in it. he kept the original 3speed column shift and it's what I learned stick on. the truck has rod here and there but it runs beautifully with a quadrajet 4 barrel carb and Holley intake manifold. when I was younger I told my dad we should restore it, for once i now appreciate that my dad does things at his own pace and we never painted it because everyone loves that it's all factory paint. this car spoke to me because I want to do suspension on the truck to make it drive even nicer than it already does. it's a long shot, but I'm in St. Louis, MO if you'd be interested in looking at the truck.
Play in the steering wheel is a fact of life when driving my lifted Ramcharger.. That reminds me, I need to fix that someday.
My second favorite model of all time. Great styling and customization!👍
Looks great, I love it. What I first noticed about it is the shape.
It's a year older than my car, a 1961 Humber Hawk
Such a cool build! Love it!
Im in love,fe 390 with triple twos ......
Wow the body is just remarkable. I love it.
my dream is to finish my 67 Ford Fairlane and my 65 rambler Marlin and have you drive them Mike your show is my inspiration
I always liked the 60-61 Ford Starliner's. I especially like the 61 with the 375 horse High Performance 390 4 barrel or the 401 horse dealer installed Tri Power setup. I believe the top engine option in 1960 was a 360 horse High Performance version of the FE 352. If I was buying a new car in 1960 it probably would've been a Pontiac Bonneville with the top of the line Tri Power 389 and 3 speed manual trans but I really do like the 60 Ford Starliner and Chevy Impala as well
Old school good time fun.....awesome......:)
that thing is T totally awesome I would not change a thing other than the oil and filters when needed
Love 1960 Fords very under rated and under appreciated great video
This is an amazing ride, very good episode ! ! !
I love what he did with the door panels that's dope
Avery cool old car and a very cool vid Thanks man
I absolutely love everything about this car. I've always been into old less popular Ford's. It really is a whole world of awesome! They are getting more popular now, but my first two cars were a 1970 Torino and a 68 Cougar. Galaxies, and thusly, Skyliners have been on my list for some time!
I love these car sounds there awesome I'm loving your channel
I love that car. Thanks for showing it .
Great coverage of that old classic. Would love to have something like that in the garage. Keep on doing what you're doing.
Make sure you have a BIG garage! Those things were 81.5" WIDE. Back in the day, some States required "clearance" lights for a vehicle that wide!!
Mike Musto
@11:30
1986 Jeep Cherokee, 2WD, 2.5 fuel injection. I'm all about making it run. What you said was perfect, paint ain't getting you home.
Absolutely love the Starliner, always have. Glad to see one saved and done as so. The one and only thing I would have included in that superb chassis resto, would have been a quicker ratio steering box. Replaced the 19:1 Saginaw with a 12:1 on my 67. Cheap, and next to disk brakes, was the best chassis mod I'd done to make the car behave so much better. Can still one hand it in the parking lot too. No need to have a sloppy wheel any more. Cheers.
It has great lines. What a cool car
I love the sound of a good FE block Ford. I have owned 332, 352, 360, 390,410 and 428. Over all personal choice is 352 with Thunderbird (H.P.) heads. Torque from idle till gas starvation ( factory fuel pump) was strong and smooth. 428 was from a K.C. police car , in a '68 Ranger pick up. I could hit Drive (3rd) at 40 MPH with passing gear linkage removed, and set the truck sideways with 350 gears. Haven't had great service out of 360s or 390s, although my brother had a 61 Starliner 390 3-on-the-tree that literally played with early GTOs and SS 396s. Hit the 4v at 70 MPH and leave 2 black trails on the pavement.
My dad bought one years ago and I always loved it. I would love to own one again.
I love House of Muscle! bravo Mike ... plz keep making these videos
Those door panels are epic
Back in 1968 I had a 61 Starliner with a 292 Y Block and two speed automatic. The car was slow. Two speeds slow and slower. I loved the car for the long roof lines and openess with all the windows down. I was going to a tech collage at the time. The tech school replaced the 9 inch rear end because would throw it I to reverse to chrip the rear tires. I was a teenager.
Love that model year for Ford & Edsel. The Ford Sunliner/Starliner & Edsel Ranger shared the same body style which is one of my favorites of all time.
Also, way back in the day, I remember seeing a '70 Monte Carlo painted midnight blue with metal flake, and who knows how many layers of lacquer. I remember thinking I could reach int the paint, like you could reach into the evening sky. Ayup. It was that nice.
The 1960 Edsel was basically a 1960 Galaxie with "Edsel-specific" grill and trim.
Pretty sure Mike has THE best job in America, hands down.
When I was young the star liner was the car to have. I got the local ford dealer to let me demo the car, 390 4spd black I had the car out for 3 hrs. when I returned the salesmen was not happy. some years later I went to work for a ford dealer as a salesmen. 40 yrs. later I retired with a few strips on my sleeves. The Mustang in the picture is mine for the last 40 years.
I had a square bird 1982 thunderbird that I made into a wood brothers replica #21 Neil Bonnett.
Musto's enthusiasm is infectious.
Love this car. Found my car in a woodshed where it stood for 20 years. My car is baby blue but has a 428 under the hood AND the car is big ... but you can drive everyday.
But it's soft if you lift it in a lift, so there's a big gap between the door and the back panel. Also liked how he made his starliner so it looks like it's just pulled out of a barn and driven. Me like ;-)
Most "rod knocks" I have seen on FE Fords ended up being broken fuel pump springs. Noisy but mostly harmless .
Great job Man. The way you didn't restore the paint job is genuine and looks unique. It shows how the car is aged and the real car enthusiast and lover will appreciate its uniqueness with rusted body. All I'm gonna say great job n keep it going.
Very simply, this is one neat car! If this had been a perfectly restored 1960 Starliner I wouldn't have taken the time to watch.
I think I've said it before but the production on this series is really good. Well done.
Straight great car and real guy driving it
4 Years later and the car still looks spot on , flashy cars fade , this just looks right. paint is weight .
One of my favorite body styles. I had a model of one when I was a kid. It's neat to see a proper old California car with the black and yellow plates. I laugh when I see modern foreign cars with those "new" black and yellow plates. Wanna bees.
Really enjoyed this episode - I think because it's a more 'real', 'relatable', car, the kind of thing that we can and do own ourselves.
what an awesome ride !!!
you need to get your hands on one of those javelins!
I agree 100% percent with your philosophy sir. And that is how any of my projects will be
This is how I build cars at my shop for my customers focus on safety and reliability I don't care about pretty paint I get a lot of so called restored cars in that are unsafe and barely run I'm not in the restoration business but in the resurrection business love seeing people driving away with a smile on their face
The 70 Monte Carlo is a beautiful car. Its my favorite M/C. I always liked the Chevy Classics especially from 55' on up. My current car is a 17' Camaro Super Sport 6 speed. Love it, And I have had 60s era muscle.
I enjoyed your video, the old Starliner was cool. However, even better was the comments by it's owner and builder. Topping that was your outlook on it and life in general. Keep on keeping on, your doing a good job and a good thing.
Sick car
That's a really super ride . I've always been a Chevy driver but always been open minded about other cars . I own and engine machine shop here in Alabama and build all types of engines and love them all .
That Starliner is a beautiful car , don't think I have ever seen one at a show or cruise in around here . At least not one the got my attention . Now I will be looking for them .
I just recently stumbled across your channel and have been digging through some of the older videos . They are all GREAT ! Keep up the good work .
I drive a 66 Chevelle SS L78 car , Marina Blue and Black interior . Love the old cars .
Bobby Alloway built a really cool one of these.
What a great ride !! I think it's perfect.