I have learned more about my golf swing, and why I was so inconsistent, in the last 6 months of watching your channel than I have in the last 10 years. I am in such better positions. Especially my left hip. Early extension gone. And that subtle sway back towards the target at the top of the swing has changed my ball striking forever!! I love golf again!!! Shot 74-72 over the weekend.
Iâve watched at least 95% of your videos and start to think you canât have anything new to say. But you come through every time with something that resonates. You guys are quality and excellence personified. Thanks. Youâve changed my game.
I watch all of your videos. This one is stuffed full of measurements, facts and insight. Your conclusions on this subject are indispensable pieces of golf knowledge as revealed by your film. Your idea for a 'drill' is crucial to the swing. The camera doesn't lie!!
This is brilliant! I didn't realise my shoulder tilt was so flat and my left shoulder was so high. I'm fighting a slice with a small over the top swing and this fits perfectly to help correct this. Top work guys đ
I've been to a few different Golf instructors and trying for years to understand how to not cast early. This explanation finally made sense. You guys are the best on CZcams.
Thank you guys. It's so refreshing to watch knowledgeable professionals that know what they are talking about and not trying to put a bandaid on a self concocted swing like a lot of professionals do and doesn't work. Much appreciated help
this may just be the most comprehensive golf drill ever! I have never seen this either! For me, yes a lightbulb moment, but 2 lightbulbs!!! 1 - the shallowing move has always been a mystery to me. just could never figure it out, and gave up on it. This shows exactly where I was going wrong!!! And 2, I have always struggled with my first move in the downswing. Ive tried everything - including the âkeep your back to the targetâ which always messed up my timing. But here - I can clearly see it is more of a âkeep that lead shoulderâin place just for a second. ie drop the hands and then turn. I was always doing the opposite which really sucked. Thank you for all you guys do at AMG. Hopefully Ill get down there in person someday. You guys have taken all the old golf âwisdomâ we had in books back in the day and showed exactly what is happening. There is alot of truth in those old books - but some of it was flawed since we didnt have the right technology - and sometimes the âfeelsâ are not real. This drill is amazing - my go to now every single time.
More gold here. Will this drill help with getting my hands in front of my right thigh at the delivery position? I have really been working on the weight shifting and moving pressure properly. Still casting a bit and I cannot quite get into the proper delivery position. Getting better though. The đ is remembering all these drills.
The trail arm behavior of dropping and straightening in transition has helped me understand the concept of pulling the arrow out of the quiver that I have heard so many golf instructors talk about during the downswing. The blend of steep and shallow movements is always planing the club without the golfer having to fish for positions. Do you think that the concept of swinging a short heavy piece of rope would also help to give the same feeling?
In regards to the drill I'd suggest that some players that increase right elbow closure at top of swing (ie cinching the club in crook of elbow) might be doing this more because they lack the mobility to continue shoulder plane rotation. So consciously or subconsciously, they continue to bend the right elbow as this gets the club closer to parallel (or further) at top of swing. In other words it's collapsing. This might be more common in juniors, seniors or lady golfers who don't have the strength or mobility.
Love the visualization with the Gears Pro. Would love to see a video on fixing head movement too much towards target (reverse pivot) and then resultant flipping club (adding too much dynamic loft).
Well done as always. What are aspiring ams to do when other well known instructors advocate leaving arms up top in transition and just start the downswing with rotation? I personally have wasted a lot of practice time in the past trying to leave arms up.
In the Gears section, you did not mention the spine angle line because that was not one of your three issues here, but it was interesting because from face on the spine angle increased its backward lean during the downswing - whereas some high handicappers move the head and spine forward (to their left) and down the line the golfer slightly stood up which I think high handicappers do, and even an elderly Jack Nicklaus did too. I feel that an under-mentioned difference between pros and ams is the movement of the head and spine in the downswing. An elderly Arnold Palmer also moved forward through the downswing, and Gary Player does so in chipping, whereas almost all pros back up a bit during impact - or so it appears to me. What do you think?
I know your intent is to use the drill with the club across your arms to help with keeping your right arm extended, but I find it to be most effective in helping feel the correct way to turn in my back swing. This drill helps me feel the correct motion of my right shoulder going behind my head and prevents me from swaying in the back swing. The best drill that helps my golf swing.
I thought I posted this yesterday but don't see it. I discovered your videos a couple weeks ago and now a big fan. The hip rotation and preventing early extension were especially helpful. I like this video and struggle with the video's easiest concept....turning the left shoulder down. When I put the club across my chest I have no problem achieving the 40 degree tilt but when I put the club in my hands the turn is considerably flatter....very little tilt. I can do most of your complex swing thoughts but this simple concept is giving me fits. Any suggestions? Appreciate all you two do to help us!
Ive managed to get my left shoulder working low early mainly by changing/improving my set up which is simple to say hard to do! and by feeling my left hip/oblique works down fractionally first which clears the space for my left shoulder. Wierdly I used to sway a foot off the ball and keep my left heel down but now I have reduced my sway my left heel wants to come up a little!
I understand the shoulder tilt but you need to explain extension which is likely to happen when you donât let your head move laterally an inch or so. I think you should explain that when you turn back and keep spine angle you can have flexion with the shoulders by moving head laterally back or have extension when you try to keep head in same position. When I talk about laterally moving your head you must understand no excessive upward or downward movement should happen.
I came to your channel to get help on my dynamic pressure shift and already in less than a week it's greatly improved. My analytical mind loves the gear demos. I've hit my fair share of what i consider great hits, but when I took this to the course the other day the sound, speed and flight i got were next level. I had a quick question on the timing of reconnecting your trail arm and getting your lead butt cheek "onto the glass". I have a habit of early extension so i really need to feel my front hip clearing out. After i finish recentering (with the downhill feel) should i immediately blend this into pushing my lead hip back (without straightening leg too early)? At the same time as this should i be reconnecting my trail arm? It's a very short time window but I can feel the difference when one goes before the other or at same time. Thanks!
Such great information guys. Really appreciate how you break it all down and give us drills to work on... and OMG the animated swings are AWESOME! I've forwarded your channel to all my golf buddies. My question: I'm a 56yo' golfer starting to see some distance on mid iron clubs slip away. I've noticed that when I address and hit the ball (with irons 3-6) with my feet closer together than normal (slightly outside my shoulders as opposed to a wider stance, like when I was younger) I'm able to get most of my distance back. I just find that sometimes by back foot slips backwards just after impact. It's like it slipping backwards because I'm turning to hard when driving through the swing from the top. I'd like to fix this. I don't know how to fix this without changing how my hips move forward as I start my downswing, like you guys teach.. PLEASE ASSIST!! :) .. and thank you for your channel!
Thanks for the great drill as a collapsing right arm is one of my biggest faults.Tho due to improving my set up and then my takeaway its got a lot better. If i swing right arm only it doesnt collapse and drops whilst maintaining lag! My thoughts are that like most faults in adult male golfers that have been good at sports it is the urge to hit at/down on the ball that causes this. If you think of hitting up through the ball and allow gravity/club mass to take care of the down the right arm wont collapse ,think topspin forehand!
Hi Guys, Welcome back đ, watching your videos has made a huge impact of me understanding the swing. I have a very slight out to in, if not straight path. Causes alot of pulls, so I have been working on throwing the arms at 10 o clock, to get the ball starting slightly right, this lesson may have been the missing piece, can't wait to try it outđ€
the key is for the shoulder angle to establish itself before we turn. the right shoulder will move up, and turn, as we take the club back. but there is only so far that can take us. but, the left chest is then in a position to rotate (if the right leg has cleared the way) and the shoulder angle will build (if the grip is good) and the swing arc will recentre the weight distribution as we get to the top, if the head positions itself correctly.
Excellent video...again! I've been working on swing plane and watching down the line videos and everytime I was " on plane" I noticed the butt of the handle would work down not out, during that initial first move. When I was "over the top" the butt of the handle went towards the target line during the start of the downswing. A good transition, besides the early weight shift, needs this lowering of the right arm. Thanks for the great video!
Thank you AMG. You nailed it. Iâve been working on keeping my shoulders turning at the same angle of my spine at address for awhile now. However, your explanation of the proper right arm bend has made the most improvement in my golf swing. Shawnâs demo of the right elbow jabbing into his side and causing early extension looks just like someone else I know (who will remain nameless). Indeed, a light bulb moment.
Great video as usual chaps đ I was almost getting withdrawal symptoms since your last post was nearly a week ago đŹ The lowering of the arms has always baffled me and why is it such a misunderstood concept in the golf teaching world ie why do most golf instructors (certainly ones who have taught me bar one) think arms magically come down đ€·ââïž
Thank you guys! That is a huge lightbulb moment for me, and definitely two for the price of one! Iâm flat shouldered at the top and bending the right elbow way more than 90 degrees. I just used the drill a couple times and can immediately feel what youâre correcting to...now to practice and implement!âłïžđđœââïž
My take away is flawless. Itâs when I get in the transition it all falls apart. My shoulder plane is 90 degrees of spine going back, but when I come down into impact I canât stop my left shoulder going parabolic up to my left ear. My hips stay back and clear. Iâm wondering, Do the Pros release their left shoulder at 90? What are the swing thoughts to keep my left shoulder down and rotating behind me instead of going up.?
Do you guys have professional motion data on forearm rotation as it pertains to the transition, which manifests as a shallowing plane? Thanks for sharing this data. Been a teaching pro for years, and to see motion quantified like this is so important for the growth of instruction. Well done.
Amazing video as always. I saw a previous video where you guys mentioned the "over the bottom" by holding angels. I think this would be a great idea for a future video.
I'm not sure if this video is because of the video suggestion I emailed you with a picture of my swing. It seems like it is because it is exactly what I do. But if it is, thank you for doing it. It is by far the best golf channel I have seen. It has helped me tremendously. I practice and train every day and have coaching trying to improve my golf. I love the pro vs am analysis you guys do with numbers and the science behind it. Thanks again. D.R.
AMG: I caught on to you just over a year ago. Great info! Gears, Pros vs. Ams. I have learned so much, thank you! At 3:22 min. to the 3:50 min. you say the upper arm lowers and reconnects immediately to lower the club on plane. My question is : Is this a dynamic lowering of the right upper arm, or does it get lowered by the actions of the lower body and rotation during the transition?
I've always tried to increase the angle of my right arm on the way down, you'd think that one of the many PGA teaching pro's I've been to over the years might've mentioned it! Alas, better late than never. Excellent video as always, learning so much from you guys.
I think I learned something here. To maintain a proper shoulder tilt in the backswing, the head dips some because the hips need to swing on an angle?? When you demonstrate shoulder turn standing straight up, there is no hip tilt therefore the head stays pretty centered. Am I on the right path here in terms of head dipping in backswing being necessary due to change in pelvic tilt??
You guys have done such a great job dispelling so many myths etc. So I am extremely hesitant to take any of my initial observations too seriously until I check in with you! đ
This is the major fault in my golf swing and for some reason very hard for me to fix. When i video my swing, even though i actually feel my right arm is roughly 90deg and my left arm fairly straight, my right arm is collapsing and my left arm bends way too much and it's so frustrating. I will try this drill and hopefully it will help, any other tips on fixing this problem would be great. Fantastic channel and love the content.
Awesome again guys. All your stuff is very helpful and professionally done. I compare lots of guys on here for golf instruction content and you two are by far the best. Keep this advanced and detailed stuff coming!
Looks like all activities are due to the motion of RIGHT side. Does the left arm do anything or does it only respond to the movement of the right arm= left arm completely passive? Greetings from Germany.
Computer ate my first effort. I like very much the dropped right arm perforned pre-wt shift, pre-hip spin, pre-anything. I's much like the Malaska move without the funny wrist stuff. A good reminder! In the old days. when NOBODY except Nicklaus let the trail airm away from the chest, they were all 30 yds shorter! Peter Kennedy MD
Would really imagine that you guys would benefit by utilising pressure sensor boards too. The gears stuff is great and fascinating but the one thing missing is pressure points to show weight / balance shifts. I believe this would complement your research and teachings a lot.
Would you please do a video on right arm position in the backswing based on an individualâs right shoulder range or motion / right shoulder external rotation? Basically, how to determine where your right arm should be positioned based on your physical capabilities.
@@AthleticMotionGolf Thank you! It seems like a lot of golfers are taught to keep the right elbow pointing down. If they physically can't externally rotate; which is 90% of golfers, they have to raise up out of posture in the backswing. It seems like your gears avatar, in this video, has his right elbow pointing straight behind him at the top. Not sure if this screen shot will download in a reply. Screen Shot 2020-06-03 at 1.08.15 PM.png. It's really helped my backswing to position the right arm based on my physical capabilities.
Is there a feeling with my left and right hand that I can feel for this lesson. Iâve been told I should feel like my left hand heel should be pushing down while my right hand pushes against my left counterintuitive to say the least but is that the feel?
I lift up slightly trying to get a fuller shoulder turn. I was told by a top 50 teacher that my shoulders are fully turned by the time My club gets to shoulder height on the backswing, what I would call three quarters. I donât really wonât to lose the increase clubhead speed I gain with the longer backswing. Is there a drill for keeping my head from lifting, should I not worry about it, or should I just shorten my swing? By the way, the idea of reconnecting the right arm to start the downswing may be the key to correcting my hitting one or two shots fat a round, by keeping me from moving my upper body too fast and trying to save the shot by dropping my hands. Thanks for your videos.
dabaumga way too specific. Usually amateurs do everything way too little. Hence just reminder that you need to push away from club. So you offset the forces. How much and when doesnât matter
In a recent Instagram post you talk about the left arm across the chest and amateurs creating too much depth. Do you think a lot of that is because the amateur turns the shoulders too flat on the backswing? So the steeper shoulder turn you talk about in this video should help with not getting the left arm too deep? Thanks!
Lol....and we make it understandable..... Left shoulder abduction.... Mike ... 85* increase to 90* initial back swing 78 top... Sean ... 90* 75*. 75 top
M&S you can prove this by making a full swing back / down / through at 'speed' with just the right arm. You cannot swish the club (fast) if you put your right elbow close to your body.
On the âarm bend less than 90 degâ part you guys seem to have mistaken a characteristic of some good swings, that is flat ones, for a universal characteristic of all good swings. This advice could be ruinous for a more upright, less connected swing. Granted upright swings may not be fashionable, but....
I like the drill but I'd like to see it with some complete swings, hitting balls as you discuss but don't demonstrate. With complete swings, the sequencing becomes more transparent
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I can't say enough about this new format. I love the blending of gears demo with live demo and drills. Best golf channel on youtube.
Thanks so much!!!
Outstanding video, in importance and simplicity.
I have learned more about my golf swing, and why I was so inconsistent, in the last 6 months of watching your channel than I have in the last 10 years. I am in such better positions. Especially my left hip. Early extension gone. And that subtle sway back towards the target at the top of the swing has changed my ball striking forever!! I love golf again!!! Shot 74-72 over the weekend.
Awesome! Great job applying those conceptsđđ
The viewers canât thank you enough. Iâm a PGA member and instructor. I recommend you to all my students.
Thank you !!!!!
Best description of transition I have ever seen and heard! Thank you, you saved my game.
Love it!
Iâve watched at least 95% of your videos and start to think you canât have anything new to say. But you come through every time with something that resonates. You guys are quality and excellence personified. Thanks. Youâve changed my game.
Thanks for the kind words...it means a lot.
I watch all of your videos. This one is stuffed full of measurements, facts and insight. Your conclusions on this subject are indispensable pieces of golf knowledge as revealed by your film. Your idea for a 'drill' is crucial to the swing. The camera doesn't lie!!
Thank you!
This is brilliant! I didn't realise my shoulder tilt was so flat and my left shoulder was so high. I'm fighting a slice with a small over the top swing and this fits perfectly to help correct this.
Top work guys đ
Thanks for the kind words!
I've been to a few different Golf instructors and trying for years to understand how to not cast early. This explanation finally made sense. You guys are the best on CZcams.
Thank you guys. It's so refreshing to watch knowledgeable professionals that know what they are talking about and not trying to put a bandaid on a self concocted swing like a lot of professionals do and doesn't work. Much appreciated help
Great vid. Light bulb went off when you said the widening stops the cast!
thats a big deal!
I respect your analysis and the training feels, many aha's in the real mechanics that a pro makes
Thanks!
this may just be the most comprehensive golf drill ever! I have never seen this either! For me, yes a lightbulb moment, but 2 lightbulbs!!! 1 - the shallowing move has always been a mystery to me. just could never figure it out, and gave up on it. This shows exactly where I was going wrong!!! And 2, I have always struggled with my first move in the downswing. Ive tried everything - including the âkeep your back to the targetâ which always messed up my timing. But here - I can clearly see it is more of a âkeep that lead shoulderâin place just for a second. ie drop the hands and then turn. I was always doing the opposite which really sucked. Thank you for all you guys do at AMG. Hopefully Ill get down there in person someday. You guys have taken all the old golf âwisdomâ we had in books back in the day and showed exactly what is happening. There is alot of truth in those old books - but some of it was flawed since we didnt have the right technology - and sometimes the âfeelsâ are not real. This drill is amazing - my go to now every single time.
Thanks!!!!!
More gold here. Will this drill help with getting my hands in front of my right thigh at the delivery position? I have really been working on the weight shifting and moving pressure properly. Still casting a bit and I cannot quite get into the proper delivery position. Getting better though. The đ is remembering all these drills.
The trail arm behavior of dropping and straightening in transition has helped me understand the concept of pulling the arrow out of the quiver that I have heard so many golf instructors talk about during the downswing. The blend of steep and shallow movements is always planing the club without the golfer having to fish for positions. Do you think that the concept of swinging a short heavy piece of rope would also help to give the same feeling?
I like swinging the rope...we like like a 3/4 inch diameter. 7 foot long double braid nylon rope. You can double it up and swing it.
In regards to the drill I'd suggest that some players that increase right elbow closure at top of swing (ie cinching the club in crook of elbow) might be doing this more because they lack the mobility to continue shoulder plane rotation. So consciously or subconsciously, they continue to bend the right elbow as this gets the club closer to parallel (or further) at top of swing. In other words it's collapsing. This might be more common in juniors, seniors or lady golfers who don't have the strength or mobility.
Love the visualization with the Gears Pro.
Would love to see a video on fixing head movement too much towards target (reverse pivot) and then resultant flipping club (adding too much dynamic loft).
We will do that for you! I think we may have done a few of those at some point. Check our youtube video feed.
Well done as always. What are aspiring ams to do when other well known instructors advocate leaving arms up top in transition and just start the downswing with rotation? I personally have wasted a lot of practice time in the past trying to leave arms up.
Run :)
In the Gears section, you did not mention the spine angle line because that was not one of your three issues here, but it was interesting because from face on the spine angle increased its backward lean during the downswing - whereas some high handicappers move the head and spine forward (to their left) and down the line the golfer slightly stood up which I think high handicappers do, and even an elderly Jack Nicklaus did too. I feel that an under-mentioned difference between pros and ams is the movement of the head and spine in the downswing. An elderly Arnold Palmer also moved forward through the downswing, and Gary Player does so in chipping, whereas almost all pros back up a bit during impact - or so it appears to me. What do you think?
I know your intent is to use the drill with the club across your arms to help with keeping your right arm extended, but I find it to be most effective in helping feel the correct way to turn in my back swing. This drill helps me feel the correct motion of my right shoulder going behind my head and prevents me from swaying in the back swing. The best drill that helps my golf swing.
Love it!
I thought I posted this yesterday but don't see it. I discovered your videos a couple weeks ago and now a big fan. The hip rotation and preventing early extension were especially helpful. I like this video and struggle with the video's easiest concept....turning the left shoulder down. When I put the club across my chest I have no problem achieving the 40 degree tilt but when I put the club in my hands the turn is considerably flatter....very little tilt. I can do most of your complex swing thoughts but this simple concept is giving me fits. Any suggestions? Appreciate all you two do to help us!
You guys have such an ability to communicate that is rare! Keep it up, you are promoting the understanding of the swing that is a gift, well done.
Ive managed to get my left shoulder working low early mainly by changing/improving my set up which is simple to say hard to do! and by feeling my left hip/oblique works down fractionally first which clears the space for my left shoulder. Wierdly I used to sway a foot off the ball and keep my left heel down but now I have reduced my sway my left heel wants to come up a little!
I understand the shoulder tilt but you need to explain extension which is likely to happen when you donât let your head move laterally an inch or so. I think you should explain that when you turn back and keep spine angle you can have flexion with the shoulders by moving head laterally back or have extension when you try to keep head in same position. When I talk about laterally moving your head you must understand no excessive upward or downward movement should happen.
I came to your channel to get help on my dynamic pressure shift and already in less than a week it's greatly improved. My analytical mind loves the gear demos.
I've hit my fair share of what i consider great hits, but when I took this to the course the other day the sound, speed and flight i got were next level.
I had a quick question on the timing of reconnecting your trail arm and getting your lead butt cheek "onto the glass". I have a habit of early extension so i really need to feel my front hip clearing out. After i finish recentering (with the downhill feel) should i immediately blend this into pushing my lead hip back (without straightening leg too early)? At the same time as this should i be reconnecting my trail arm? It's a very short time window but I can feel the difference when one goes before the other or at same time.
Thanks!
That sounds about right!
Such great information guys. Really appreciate how you break it all down and give us drills to work on... and OMG the animated swings are AWESOME! I've forwarded your channel to all my golf buddies. My question: I'm a 56yo' golfer starting to see some distance on mid iron clubs slip away. I've noticed that when I address and hit the ball (with irons 3-6) with my feet closer together than normal (slightly outside my shoulders as opposed to a wider stance, like when I was younger) I'm able to get most of my distance back. I just find that sometimes by back foot slips backwards just after impact. It's like it slipping backwards because I'm turning to hard when driving through the swing from the top. I'd like to fix this. I don't know how to fix this without changing how my hips move forward as I start my downswing, like you guys teach.. PLEASE ASSIST!! :) .. and thank you for your channel!
Thanks for the great drill as a collapsing right arm is one of my biggest faults.Tho due to improving my set up and then my takeaway its got a lot better. If i swing right arm only it doesnt collapse and drops whilst maintaining lag!
My thoughts are that like most faults in adult male golfers that have been good at sports it is the urge to hit at/down on the ball that causes this.
If you think of hitting up through the ball and allow gravity/club mass to take care of the down the right arm wont collapse ,think topspin forehand!
Hi Guys, Welcome back đ, watching your videos has made a huge impact of me understanding the swing. I have a very slight out to in, if not straight path. Causes alot of pulls, so I have been working on throwing the arms at 10 o clock, to get the ball starting slightly right, this lesson may have been the missing piece, can't wait to try it outđ€
Fantastic work here. Great topic and description of what is actually happening.
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Awesome and working on this movement with my coach. And this drill will help more. Currently 10.7 was looking to get to 6
the key is for the shoulder angle to establish itself before we turn. the right shoulder will move up, and turn, as we take the club back. but there is only so far that can take us. but, the left chest is then in a position to rotate (if the right leg has cleared the way) and the shoulder angle will build (if the grip is good) and the swing arc will recentre the weight distribution as we get to the top, if the head positions itself correctly.
Excellent video...again! I've been working on swing plane and watching down the line videos and everytime I was " on plane" I noticed the butt of the handle would work down not out, during that initial first move. When I was "over the top" the butt of the handle went towards the target line during the start of the downswing. A good transition, besides the early weight shift, needs this lowering of the right arm. Thanks for the great video!
absolutely!
Thank you AMG. You nailed it. Iâve been working on keeping my shoulders turning at the same angle of my spine at address for awhile now. However, your explanation of the proper right arm bend has made the most improvement in my golf swing. Shawnâs demo of the right elbow jabbing into his side and causing early extension looks just like someone else I know (who will remain nameless). Indeed, a light bulb moment.
Thanks for the comment! Glad you liked it...
Great video as usual chaps đ I was almost getting withdrawal symptoms since your last post was nearly a week ago đŹ The lowering of the arms has always baffled me and why is it such a misunderstood concept in the golf teaching world ie why do most golf instructors (certainly ones who have taught me bar one) think arms magically come down đ€·ââïž
haha. Great question!!
Thank you guys! That is a huge lightbulb moment for me, and definitely two for the price of one! Iâm flat shouldered at the top and bending the right elbow way more than 90 degrees. I just used the drill a couple times and can immediately feel what youâre correcting to...now to practice and implement!âłïžđđœââïž
Great!!
My take away is flawless. Itâs when I get in the transition it all falls apart. My shoulder plane is 90 degrees of spine going back, but when I come down into impact I canât stop my left shoulder going parabolic up to my left ear. My hips stay back and clear. Iâm wondering, Do the Pros release their left shoulder at 90? What are the swing thoughts to keep my left shoulder down and rotating behind me instead of going up.?
Do you guys have professional motion data on forearm rotation as it pertains to the transition, which manifests as a shallowing plane? Thanks for sharing this data. Been a teaching pro for years, and to see motion quantified like this is so important for the growth of instruction. Well done.
Amazing video as always. I saw a previous video where you guys mentioned the "over the bottom" by holding angels. I think this would be a great idea for a future video.
We will do it for you!
I'm not sure if this video is because of the video suggestion I emailed you with a picture of my swing. It seems like it is because it is exactly what I do. But if it is, thank you for doing it. It is by far the best golf channel I have seen. It has helped me tremendously. I practice and train every day and have coaching trying to improve my golf. I love the pro vs am analysis you guys do with numbers and the science behind it. Thanks again. D.R.
Thanks for the kind words!
AMG: I caught on to you just over a year ago. Great info! Gears, Pros vs. Ams. I have learned so much, thank you! At 3:22 min. to the 3:50 min. you say the upper arm lowers and reconnects immediately to lower the club on plane. My question is : Is this a dynamic lowering of the right upper arm, or does it get lowered by the actions of the lower body and rotation during the transition?
I've always tried to increase the angle of my right arm on the way down, you'd think that one of the many PGA teaching pro's I've been to over the years might've mentioned it! Alas, better late than never. Excellent video as always, learning so much from you guys.
Thanks!!! Yeah that's a common swing myth that will derail you for sure.
Again what a informative and right on the button lesson. Thanks guys.
By the way lately I was wondering whether I should force two arms ar downswing?
I think I learned something here. To maintain a proper shoulder tilt in the backswing, the head dips some because the hips need to swing on an angle?? When you demonstrate shoulder turn standing straight up, there is no hip tilt therefore the head stays pretty centered. Am I on the right path here in terms of head dipping in backswing being necessary due to change in pelvic tilt??
@@louislane1968 yes, I believe you đ
You guys have done such a great job dispelling so many myths etc. So I am extremely hesitant to take any of my initial observations too seriously until I check in with you! đ
This is the major fault in my golf swing and for some reason very hard for me to fix. When i video my swing, even though i actually feel my right arm is roughly 90deg and my left arm fairly straight, my right arm is collapsing and my left arm bends way too much and it's so frustrating. I will try this drill and hopefully it will help, any other tips on fixing this problem would be great. Fantastic channel and love the content.
Start slowđ
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Awesome again guys. All your stuff is very helpful and professionally done. I compare lots of guys on here for golf instruction content and you two are by far the best. Keep this advanced and detailed stuff coming!
Thank you!!
You guys are brilliant! Great content boys
Looks like all activities are due to the motion of RIGHT side. Does the left arm do anything or does it only respond to the movement of the right arm= left arm completely passive? Greetings from Germany.
The left is very much involved, both sides have to do their jobs. But you might feel one more dominant than the otherđ
You guys are brilliant! Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Computer ate my first effort. I like very much the dropped right arm perforned pre-wt shift, pre-hip spin, pre-anything. I's much like the Malaska move without the funny wrist stuff. A good reminder! In the old days. when NOBODY except Nicklaus let the trail airm away from the chest, they were all 30 yds shorter! Peter Kennedy MD
Great comment! Thanks!
Would really imagine that you guys would benefit by utilising pressure sensor boards too. The gears stuff is great and fascinating but the one thing missing is pressure points to show weight / balance shifts. I believe this would complement your research and teachings a lot.
Great vid⊠excellent illustrationâŠ
Would you say the right upper arm âcatchesâ the chest once it lowers? They then turn together?
Would you please do a video on right arm position in the backswing based on an individualâs right shoulder range or motion / right shoulder external rotation? Basically, how to determine where your right arm should be positioned based on your physical capabilities.
We will do it on the next shoot :)
@@AthleticMotionGolf Thank you! It seems like a lot of golfers are taught to keep the right elbow pointing down. If they physically can't externally rotate; which is 90% of golfers, they have to raise up out of posture in the backswing. It seems like your gears avatar, in this video, has his right elbow pointing straight behind him at the top. Not sure if this screen shot will download in a reply. Screen Shot 2020-06-03 at 1.08.15 PM.png. It's really helped my backswing to position the right arm based on my physical capabilities.
Is there a feeling with my left and right hand that I can feel for this lesson. Iâve been told I should feel like my left hand heel should be pushing down while my right hand pushes against my left counterintuitive to say the least but is that the feel?
I lift up slightly trying to get a fuller shoulder turn. I was told by a top 50 teacher that my shoulders are fully turned by the time My club gets to shoulder height on the backswing, what I would call three quarters. I donât really wonât to lose the increase clubhead speed I gain with the longer backswing. Is there a drill for keeping my head from lifting, should I not worry about it, or should I just shorten my swing?
By the way, the idea of reconnecting the right arm to start the downswing may be the key to correcting my hitting one or two shots fat a round, by keeping me from moving my upper body too fast and trying to save the shot by dropping my hands.
Thanks for your videos.
Could be a flexibility issue. Would need to see your swing to know for certain.
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Thanks so much!!
Great video and drill on a very imortant and difficult part of the swing to learn. Will try this tomorrow. Well done boyz!
Thanks!!
Where are yâall located out of? Iâd possibly like an in person lesson
Great video; good combination of theoretical analysis and practical tips !!!
That's what were trying to do...thanks for the comment. Hope you're playing great!
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
how can i donate these are the best golf instructions with such clear explanation that i have ever seen
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Crushed it guys, great training drill
Does this also apply to hitting the Driver?
Absolutely
Great video guys! Question: Where should your hips be when you are adding width and letting the right arm fall (how open should you be at that point)?
dabaumga way too specific. Usually amateurs do everything way too little. Hence just reminder that you need to push away from club. So you offset the forces. How much and when doesnât matter
The pelvis will be square to the target line when the hands are around belt high on the downswing :)
@@AthleticMotionGolf Thank you!
Great video, both the Gears and the drill superb
In a recent Instagram post you talk about the left arm across the chest and amateurs creating too much depth. Do you think a lot of that is because the amateur turns the shoulders too flat on the backswing? So the steeper shoulder turn you talk about in this video should help with not getting the left arm too deep? Thanks!
It could help :)
Youâve set a new bar for golf instruction. Well done.
Thanks so much
superb stuff.Ive learnt a lot from you two.thanks
Thanks for the kind words
Enjoyed the video & drill. Thanks đđŒ
Glad you enjoyed it sir!!
Great video and great channel! Keep it up guys
nice job guys, i think you should add the cupped wrist to DEATH MOVES, flat left wrist to slightly bowed IS WAY EASier to return the face
It can be for sure. Just making a fist with the lead hand seems to work nicely too :)
Seriously you are good
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Amazing, great stuff
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Impressive stuff
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Best video I've seen in a while thanks.
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A good comeback video.
Thanks!
OK the video ended well Iâm gonna try that
All well and good guys, but I would have NEVER allowed the beverage cart to drive by without stopping!!! (18:41)
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âItâs kind of like a fancy marching move or something. Yeah.â
-Mike Granato
Don't tell me. New pants, right? Tsk tsk.
Great video, love the GEARS tech.
haha. Yessir. New pants. Glad your'e enjoying Gears!
You remind me of 105.3 the fan Bryan Broaduss
Thatâs DJ
Where can I get one of your hats???
We will have a link to purchase them soon. :)
BUTTTT...THE slow motion videos of the pros has the right elbow in the side or even in the front of the body.
Lol....and we make it understandable.....
Left shoulder abduction....
Mike ... 85* increase to 90* initial back swing 78 top...
Sean ... 90* 75*. 75 top
M&S you can prove this by making a full swing back / down / through at 'speed' with just the right arm. You cannot swish the club (fast) if you put your right elbow close to your body.
love it
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where are you?
On the âarm bend less than 90 degâ part you guys seem to have mistaken a characteristic of some good swings, that is flat ones, for a universal characteristic of all good swings. This advice could be ruinous for a more upright, less connected swing. Granted upright swings may not be fashionable, but....
Has nothing to do with flat or upright, we have the data for all varieties of swings. It would be ruinous to think that only applies to flat swings.
I like the drill but I'd like to see it with some complete swings, hitting balls as you discuss but don't demonstrate. With complete swings, the sequencing becomes more transparent
Yessir we're going to start hitting more balls. Thanks for your comment
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Drill that will end the âshanksâs for good !!
Drill that will end âfatâ shots for good !!
Very proffesionaly done, but waaay to technical for me.
Great video and the avatar makes explanations nearly unnecessary Thanks for sharing
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Love u guys but you canât describe hogan as some golfer. Come on guys
??? I don't believe we ever mention Hogan's name in this video.
@@AthleticMotionGolf you didnât. Just sounded like it. My bad. Good vid