Your English Teacher Lied to You | 6 Fake Grammar Rules you learnt at school

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  • čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
  • Some of the English grammar 'rules' we learn at school are misleading because they are not rules at all. Some rules have exceptions and some are conventions rather than rules.
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    00:00 1. Preposition followed by infinitive
    02:04 2. WILL after IF
    03:44 3. MUCH with affirmatives
    06:06 4. WHOM in spoken English
    08:46 5. Comparatives
    13:04 6. Using contractions in written English
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Komentáře • 722

  • @fazilisik9408
    @fazilisik9408 Před 2 lety +68

    The "on" in "go on" isn't a preposition.It's an "adverbial particle''.

    • @thebackwash
      @thebackwash Před rokem +11

      Followed by a present progressive, not a gerund 😉

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin Před rokem +4

      And 'to go on' is different from 'to go'...

    • @askadia
      @askadia Před rokem

      @@AnnabelleJARankin Foreigner here, shouldn't one say "different THAN" instead of "different FROM"? Or are both correct?

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin Před rokem +8

      @@askadiaHi! Actually, 'different from' is absolutely the correct form although many people wrongly use 'different than'!

    • @askadia
      @askadia Před rokem +3

      @@AnnabelleJARankin I see, thank you! Have a nice day 😚

  • @Zain-ks8ws
    @Zain-ks8ws Před 2 lety +20

    The weird thing is that I have always known these rules, as "it doesn't seem right", behind my mind, but never thought of them as rules. Now it is more apparent.

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive Před rokem

      That's because language is mainly a big memory exercise, irregular forms occur commonly otherwise they become regular. This has happened to many verbs and to wed is in the process as to marry has become more popular.

  • @sarumano884
    @sarumano884 Před rokem +85

    There's an Esperanto joke that English grammar is very simple - There is only ONE rule.
    1. Every word in English has its own grammar rules
    😁

    • @musicforaarre
      @musicforaarre Před rokem +3

      😆😆😆😆😆 Funny ! Aarre Peltomaa p.s. Don't forget. There was a conference of monkeys, Orang Utans, Gorillas, Chimpanzees, and Baboons. They decided to create a common language so that they could speak to each other. That language became English ! 🙃

    • @YeshuaIsTheTruth
      @YeshuaIsTheTruth Před rokem +1

      Facts

    • @BFDT-4
      @BFDT-4 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Excellent!

  • @TheDiveO
    @TheDiveO Před rokem +8

    my first Englisch teacher was a narcissist only interested in ruling, not teaching language and its rules in any meaningful manner. Ironically, I learned English first through British computer books in the early 80's, actually preparing me to a level where I was still taking classes in school when I hadn't to anymore. Thank you so much for your channel, if only we have had it in the 80's...

  • @user-wd3zk5zl2s
    @user-wd3zk5zl2s Před rokem +24

    Thank you for this great video and your examples. I am a teacher of English in my country, and as you probably know, teachers who are not native speakers have to learn all the time to be ready to answer all the questions their students may have :) The information you gave here is so valuable for me. Wishing you great success, Gideon!

  • @petersdotter1
    @petersdotter1 Před rokem +20

    "Rues of grammar" are rarely taught in the US these days. As a foreign language high school teacher, I've had to teach English grammar. I have to explain verbs, pronouns, prepositions. Amazing!

    • @buckwylde7965
      @buckwylde7965 Před rokem +5

      Native English speakers learn the rules at their mothers' knees. English classes for native speakers should mostly consist of reading and writing English with an eye to improving both, not studying the grammar they already know. I learned more about the mechanics of English in my Spanish classes than I ever did in any of my English classes.

    • @stranger9216
      @stranger9216 Před rokem +2

      The only time I ever sat down to study English grammar was when I was about studying French. Natives rarely study grammar

    • @ericbarlow6772
      @ericbarlow6772 Před rokem +1

      @@buckwylde7965 we don’t always learn grammar rules natively. We also learn the grammar mistakes of our dialects. I know many who use the adjective good instead of the adverb well. They will say I am good instead of I am well.

    • @Shiva182Katarina
      @Shiva182Katarina Před rokem +1

      @@stranger9216 That's weird in my eyes... everyone in my country have to study our native language grammar before we do it in English

    • @653j521
      @653j521 Před rokem

      You, of course, know what is taught in almost every school district, private and public.

  • @semplicementeanita6563
    @semplicementeanita6563 Před 2 lety +92

    Come to think of it, English being a mashup of other languages (which individually have rules not compatible with the others) it's only logical that there are so many exceptions. A non-native speaker can learn the basic grammar rules but to be able to recognise the difference in meaning between "The lecturer closed the door and went on to teach the new material" and "He went on teaching although nobody paid any attention" takes a lot of experience, reading and above all getting the feel of the language. All those BUTs and irregularities make the study of English complex and challenging BUT I love it regardless.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  Před 2 lety +35

      we speak a bastard tongue

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 Před 2 lety +11

      @@LetThemTalkTV can't wait to see the reaction of my colleagues when I inform them that we actually teach a bastard language, they'll probably "excommunicate" me 😂

    • @ericcartier2233
      @ericcartier2233 Před 2 lety +9

      @@LetThemTalkTV no, a mongrel language.... cause the parents who gave birth to the Eng language were not 2 but a lot more than that. -:))

    • @maiter6317
      @maiter6317 Před 2 lety +1

      Which is the difference between the two examples you mentioned?

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 Před 2 lety +11

      @@maiter6317 in the first example the lecturer, after completing one action (closing the door) switched to another (teaching) whereas in the second example he proceeded with the same action (continued with what he's already been doing).

  • @richardharrow2513
    @richardharrow2513 Před 2 lety +57

    You must know the rules in order to break them. The way natives break the rules in colloquial speech is not the same as a learner would potentially break them :)

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  Před 2 lety +17

      I agree with your first point. Learn the rules then break them

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 Před 2 lety +12

      Less-educated native speakers sometimes do make similar mistakes as the ESL learners (lower and intermediate level).They tend to confuse irregular verbs, phonetically similar elements (e,g, could've, could of), they make subjunctive errors, use double negatives, use adjective instead of adverb, but unlike non-native speakers they would never confuse tenses,phrasal verbs or prepositions.

    • @richardharrow2513
      @richardharrow2513 Před 2 lety +5

      Semplicemente Anita I wouldn’t call them errors it’s just what separates colloquial speech from say RP or Standard American. I’m no prescriptivist so I wouldn’t call those people less-educated

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 Před 2 lety +11

      @@richardharrow2513 ​ I don't think that a particular standard of language is superior to other varieties but I'm a teacher who teaches "standards" so prescriptivism is inherent. That doesn't necessarily mean that I'm subscribed to prescriptivism as ideology. P.S. Had no intention to offend less-educated people or sound condescending, I was just pointing out that people with less formal schooling are more inclined to be "descriptive" than people with academic degree.

    • @frankgradus9474
      @frankgradus9474 Před 2 lety +4

      "You must know the rules in order to break them." - the nail hit right on the head.
      Also, breaking the rules deliberately helps me come to grips with the rules I'm breaking.

  • @agaw1448
    @agaw1448 Před rokem +14

    Hahahaha, listening to the video about rules to be broken, I learned some rules I wasn't aware of.
    You're excellent teacher!

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive Před rokem

      English rules are made to be broken, "it's the exception that proves the rule" 😆

  • @foogod4237
    @foogod4237 Před rokem +41

    Interestingly, the "if you will" exception is really a very British construction, which I think is almost never used in American English..

    • @ambiention
      @ambiention Před rokem +3

      Nor the colonial dialects of British English that I've come across

    • @joeycrunch
      @joeycrunch Před rokem +8

      Yeah, American here and I’ve never heard that construction. It sounds so off to my ear!

    • @donaldgrove2249
      @donaldgrove2249 Před rokem

      The sense of that "will" appears in some common American sayings, like "Boys will be boys" or "Evil will out", but not in any other American speech that I am familiar with. Us Yanks would construct the "if" sentence differently, like "If you keep doing that then what do you expect?" or with no "if" at all, like "Since you won't stop, this is going to happen" etc.

    • @mattp422
      @mattp422 Před rokem +3

      Agree. Literally no American says that, figuratively speaking.

    • @ColonelSandersLite
      @ColonelSandersLite Před rokem +2

      I haven't finished this yet but all of the first four don't really apply to american english.

  • @saracosta620
    @saracosta620 Před rokem +36

    As an English speaker, I subscribe to the breaking conventions wholeheartedly. As a teacher, I can only say one thing: do not ever break them in a test.

    • @jaystone4816
      @jaystone4816 Před rokem +3

      As an American English speaker in informal conversation and informal writing, contractions are used all the time by everyone. In higher academic circles, written articles, papers and textbooks do not. There the standard is formal writing only.

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA Před rokem

      as a flemish in belgium, i first learned french with , AHH so extremely much exceptions!
      starting at 11.. so when started english courses at 14, when teacher said this is the rule, we were only to happy that it's wasn't followed be , 'except' ... ,
      but i've learned too, 'will keep borthering' huh, a will for present time? :), don't think i've ever heared it used that way..
      i would use : 'if you keep on' 'if you don't stop' ,
      so i don't really see the use in that exception will use in any of the exemples, am i missing something? :)

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA Před rokem

      for my, 'more easy' sounds horribly wrong 😀

    • @mattmexor2882
      @mattmexor2882 Před rokem

      @@JeroenJA You might think breaking the rules of English is easy, but following them is even more easy when they are wrong. Using "more easy" allows the speaker to stress either "more" or "easy", which is an awkward thing to do with "easier". Sure you can say "easy-ERR" but you can't tell me that's not more jarring to the flow of the sentence than "MORE easy".

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA Před rokem

      @@mattmexor2882 perhaps cause its same rule in dutch: gemakkelijk, gemakkelijker , gemakkelijkste

  • @andrewmcdonnell6369
    @andrewmcdonnell6369 Před 2 lety +21

    I absolutely love these videos ❣️. I've been teaching English for 6 years in total, admittedly with a break in between. I teach English for a tech company in México City and I share many of your sentiments when it comes to language learning. Thanks for everything Gideon.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  Před 2 lety +4

      Thank you my dear colleague

    • @alanwhiplington5504
      @alanwhiplington5504 Před rokem +1

      Overall, Gideon is one of the best EFL teachers on CZcams. He has an excellent insight into the English language and tends to avoid saying misleading things. Quite a few of the others are incompetent and spout rubbish.

  • @subtronik9311
    @subtronik9311 Před rokem +2

    You forgot, 'MUCH Ado About Nothing', by a lesser known playwrite who may have influenced the course of British literary history.

  • @lukasgayer5393
    @lukasgayer5393 Před rokem +4

    Thank you so much for your content. As a teacher I find it so helpful! Many of your examples and explanations are so great, that I am writing them down and can´t wait to tell them to my students during our lessons.

  • @mrtunapie6653
    @mrtunapie6653 Před rokem +3

    A good teacher is someone who is engaging and interesting to listen to. You, sir, are a good teacher.

  • @RECAMPAIRE
    @RECAMPAIRE Před 2 lety +15

    In French, we say : « this is the exception that proves the rule ».
    I studied French, English, Latin and German at school : but for me English grammar was the most easy.

    • @fabienneclavier5984
      @fabienneclavier5984 Před 2 lety +13

      Easiest 😉

    • @wingedhussar1117
      @wingedhussar1117 Před 2 lety +3

      In German we say that too: Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel. (Exceptions confirm the rule.)

    • @SwedishNeo
      @SwedishNeo Před rokem

      Same here. Swedish is my mother tongue and I've studied English, French and German. The English grammar has always been the easiest, even easier than the Swedish grammar, especially when you try and teach it to someone else. :P

    • @dianaperpignan1231
      @dianaperpignan1231 Před rokem +2

      Very true. It’s beyond me to see so many people who are born and raised in the US make so many mistakes. They cannot even distinguish between “their” and “they’re”, “it’s” and “its”, “who” and “whom”

    • @fsinjin60
      @fsinjin60 Před rokem +1

      @@dianaperpignan1231 learning English by ear rather than written. Those sets of words sound the same to the American so they don’t differentiate the written form. Social media has revealed exactly how unintellectual the Americans are. Many use the excuse that they are talking their response but I know speech translators “fix” ‘there’ to ‘their’ or ‘they’re’ depending on usage. Lazy people wonder why people talk down to them. It’s because you let your mistakes stand.

  • @marcelroberto2270
    @marcelroberto2270 Před 2 lety +1

    Dear Gideon I'm used to watching your videos even if I've been studying British English with my londoner teacher. My teacher appreciates your deeper knowledge about grammar. Both of you are important to improve my learning. This video was amazing and I'll share with professor
    William.Thanks a lot

  • @TheDogMotherOfJen
    @TheDogMotherOfJen Před 2 lety +5

    The only channel, teacher and a person I trust blindly in this world full of everything virtual and misinformation.
    🥰

  • @cordasuenaviolin604
    @cordasuenaviolin604 Před 2 lety +1

    What a wealth of examples! Thank you very much!

  • @elleh3495
    @elleh3495 Před rokem +1

    My mom used to grammar-shame me😢. Could never have a conversation with her because she was waiting for me to mess up, so she could interrupt me repeatedly with her English lessons. Severe language trauma...

  • @sashole1
    @sashole1 Před 2 lety +1

    Another case of using "if you will" grammatically correctly is in the meaning of "as it were", "so to speak", "as they say", and so forth.

  • @freddiemercury8700
    @freddiemercury8700 Před 2 lety

    Good to have you here Gideon! Never before, have I seen you uploading on Tuesdays.

  • @freddiemercury8700
    @freddiemercury8700 Před 2 lety +4

    I must admit that you are a HELLUVA teacher! Many thanks for your time as well as the lesson. Take it easy matey.

  • @pradipiramdhan6293
    @pradipiramdhan6293 Před 2 lety

    I always love your teaching tips Gideon. It is so genuine

  • @isabelstokes4042
    @isabelstokes4042 Před rokem +1

    More perfect? Most perfect? There are no degrees of perfection. It's a superlative in itself. I'm surprised a grammar teacher didn't know this!

  • @user-hp3pi6uw8n
    @user-hp3pi6uw8n Před rokem

    I've been waiting for this video all my English learning life) Thank you!

  • @NikolausUndRupprecht
    @NikolausUndRupprecht Před rokem

    Thank you for clarifying when to use contractions.

  • @christopherdieudonne
    @christopherdieudonne Před rokem +3

    Some of these I knew about but contractions being ok in formal writing blew my mind. That's great to know !

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin Před rokem +1

      That's debatable in some instances....
      be careful if you are writing in an academic setting such as university, for instance.

  • @parusudi1
    @parusudi1 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video!!! Thank you!!!

  • @dutchy1121
    @dutchy1121 Před rokem +1

    To whoM I speaking? Your point about using what sounds right is the best advice you can give. That is how language evolves.

  • @pitulanek
    @pitulanek Před 2 lety +17

    I love this! I've long since learnt to say that English doesn't really have rules, more like patterns and tendencies ;) Obviously, there are some rules but I make sure to say there is probably some exception I can't think of right now (but if you can - I say to my students - let me know, so I know for the future). My favourite is the "no *will* after *if*". At the start of someone's journey with the conditionals I don't even mention that yes, in some cases, you might see them worryingly close to each other. With more advanced students I say "there are some situations when you can say that but this isn't one, not yet."
    About the contractions and writing - I think it might be some misconception carried over from formal writing. Students preparing for taking exams like CAE etc. have to learn to write some very formal pieces of writing and they often find it hard to remember not to contract in those. So maybe some teachers just expand the rule because of this? Not sure. But register sure is tricky sometimes! When I started learning foreign languages we mostly had course books, novels and maybesometimes some films to learn from. So we all sounded a bit pompous ;) Now my students find it hard to get rid of the "gonna" and "coulda" type of forms because they learn a lot from rather informal exchanges on the social media.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  Před 2 lety +8

      All very good points. As for the contractions I always say "write for the reader".

    • @pitulanek
      @pitulanek Před 2 lety +4

      @@LetThemTalkTV That's a very clever way of putting it! And, as a bonus, can be applied to life in general.

    • @653j521
      @653j521 Před rokem +1

      Or "should of" for "should've".

    • @jaystone4816
      @jaystone4816 Před rokem

      English has rules or nobody would understand what one English speaker said to another English speaker. Most speakers learn the basic rules before they start grade school. English has a lot of irregularities to learn, and again some of them are absorbed by children listening to or talking to parents and watching television. There is a current prevalent myth that any way a particular group speaks English is on equal footing with any other way. That isn't the case and never will be. Linguists and linguistic anthropologists have recognized the way a language is spoken (and/or written) communicates more than just thoughts and feelings. Consciously and unconsciously you communicate to others your racial, ethnic and socioeconomic background, area of the country, intelligence and level of education, and many other details. And the person listening to you is consciously and unconsciously assigning meanings - even stereotypes - to YOU. One common one is a Southern accent. Subtle and not so subtle meanings can be assigned by speakers outside the South, and some meanings or assumptions can be negative. It's not uncommon for professionals or TV and media persons with Southern accents and speech patterns to attend special classes or tutor-supervised training to reduce or eliminate a Southern accent. Case in point: Stephen Colbert. He's a native of South Carolina, and he's remarked his natural speaking voice is characteristic of that state. He received training early in his career to eliminate his regional accent, and it only pops up again when he visits family and friends when he goes back home. This isn't a new phenomenon in America. As modern life means much more geographic, social and career mobility in the second half of the 20th and into the 21st centuries, so has the rise of speech training and modification private education.

  • @peabody1976
    @peabody1976 Před rokem +3

    13:49 The use of contractions in formal writing actually can change a meaning or nuance, and this is made clear:
    "You won't walk here" (formal, meaning doubt is present)
    "You will not walk here" (formal, meaning force will be used if you try)

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA Před rokem

      but that just future tense with a tone :) , same in almost every western language i think..
      jij zal daar niet lopen,
      tu ne vas pas y promener,
      du shallt nicht , ...
      don't know enough other european language to repeat it in those ;)

  • @mariambajelidze8515
    @mariambajelidze8515 Před 2 lety +6

    English is so weird but your videos makes it understandable😁 Thank you🧡 Love your channel🧡 A separate video about adjectives, especially ones with two syllables would be awesome as it's a mind-boggling thing😁

  • @lorenasmartevents5354
    @lorenasmartevents5354 Před 2 lety

    Oh, woe. Vere, very intetesting... Demistifying severeal grammar rules! Awesome! Ty for sharing.

  • @dudablack2426
    @dudablack2426 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Gideon, great class! 😍

  • @BIGBEN9999999
    @BIGBEN9999999 Před rokem

    Interesting video, Thx! First one, but subscribed right away ;-)

  • @poladelarosa8399
    @poladelarosa8399 Před rokem

    Thanks for the segment on Who/Whom.

  • @glstka5710
    @glstka5710 Před rokem +2

    On contractions, I seem to remember that the American writer Damon Runyon (not sure of the spelling of his name) made fun of the "rule" against contractions by having his characters who were lower class New Yorkers try to be more sophisticated by never using contractions and the strange awkwardness that resulted made fun of the "rule".

  • @primopierre
    @primopierre Před rokem +2

    If I will keep watching too much youtube videos, I will end up explaining to whom I owe my reports most urgently when I should’ve submitted them yesterday.

  • @hekkoCZ
    @hekkoCZ Před rokem +1

    On topic of the preposition followed by infinitive: "go on" is a phrasal verb. The preposition here belongs to the verb and changes its meaning (to go means to move, generally; to go on means to continue). In the example sentence (he was talking about his job and then he went on to talk about his holiday), the verb "to talk" doesn't really come after a preposition because the preposition is part of the phrasal verb.

    • @marythurlow9132
      @marythurlow9132 Před rokem

      That 's a good answer. I get tired of explaining that 'on' is not an adverb.

  • @nicholasbeck1558
    @nicholasbeck1558 Před rokem +3

    Phrasal verbs such as "go on” act as an indivisible unit. The preposition can not be separated from the verb without changing the meaning of the phrasal verb. Nor can the verb in a phrasal verb stand-alone without changing its meaning. When phrasal verbs employ prepositions, their prepositions lose the quality and function that made them prepositions, and so they are no longer prepositions, but part of the stand-alone unit of the phrasal verb.
    So, your grammar rule was not violated by the example. :)

    • @utsavmaheshwari859
      @utsavmaheshwari859 Před rokem

      Yes absolutely! Rather, the verb in his example is “to go on to” which means “to abandon one activity in favour of a related activity”, but if you followed the rule and used a gerund after the verb “to go on”, it has the meaning of “to continue”, at least in my dialect of English.

  • @AlbertBoth
    @AlbertBoth Před 2 lety

    Thank you for your great entertaining explanations!

  • @roberthuck5589
    @roberthuck5589 Před rokem +1

    I had a friend in college who was from Germany and in her English classes in Germany she was always told not to use contractions in formal writing. I told her this was not true because sometimes not using a contraction will break up the rhythm of the sentence. She really liked my advice and acted like I had taken a giant weight off of her shoulders.

    • @jaystone4816
      @jaystone4816 Před rokem

      At the higher academic standards of college and university, contractions are not used. Open a college textbook sometime or read an academic journal article or paper. You won't see contractions.

  • @Nunaromedus
    @Nunaromedus Před 2 lety

    Thank you. It was an interesting lesson!

  • @heatherwood2664
    @heatherwood2664 Před rokem +2

    *I would like to offer you the highest marks for your presentation. I am just a poor boy, however, the first written compliment I got, was from a stuffed shirt manager, who complimented me on my clear and concise style (of writing collection letters). I use a lot of contractions in everyday prose, and I have been published in national journals for my editorial commentaries. I really enjoy your videos, and am a mad fan!*

  • @barsukus13
    @barsukus13 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you!

  • @sidneycarter8365
    @sidneycarter8365 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you, teacher, for answering my question made for 6 months ago, after watching the video ”5 Ways We use Will as Present Tense!
    I wrote the following: If you’ll let me finish, I’ll take questions at the end.
    I went on asking you to comment on this.
    You really do us a great favour!

  • @abdelhalimmechti9268
    @abdelhalimmechti9268 Před rokem

    you existing is a blessing to human kind

  • @timoloef
    @timoloef Před rokem +6

    since "will" can mean "want to" in rare occasions, I find "If you will keep bothering me..." quite logical because for a non-native speaker like me it sounds like "If you intend to keep bothering me..."

  • @wh0tube
    @wh0tube Před 2 lety

    I am learned, much from you, thank you. 🙏🏼

  • @mamymimma
    @mamymimma Před 2 lety

    Much needed, thanks a lot/very much!

  • @denidale4701
    @denidale4701 Před rokem +2

    I always assumed some "wrong" comparatives are used in spoken language because of the way we think. You might say "It was more" and then only think about what word you actually want to use. So you end up with things like "It was more funny than I expected" simply because you might have started out the sentence in the intention of saying "it was more amusing". Interesting to hear that it would actually not be wrong either way.

  • @janetmackinnon3411
    @janetmackinnon3411 Před 2 lety

    Always interesting and ful lof insight. Thank you for your work.

  • @saphorr
    @saphorr Před 10 měsíci

    13:00 Another nice example from Shakespeare is the double superlative for emphasis used by Mark Antony in describing Brutus' attack on Caesar: "This was the most unkindest cut of all"

  • @mmanga5
    @mmanga5 Před 2 lety

    Thanks! I love your videos. 🥰

  • @jlpack62
    @jlpack62 Před rokem

    precise, more precise, most precise.

  • @DoodiePunk
    @DoodiePunk Před rokem +1

    14:20 that's what I like about English, that its written formal form is close to its spoken one, compared to other languages, e.g. German. 🤐

  • @matlindell5022
    @matlindell5022 Před 2 lety +1

    It doesn’t get any better than your lessons!

  • @iamunce
    @iamunce Před rokem +1

    Surely, you also teach your students that "go on" is a phrasal verb and so operates a bit differently from some others.

  • @vincecallagher7636
    @vincecallagher7636 Před rokem

    I find it amazing that I know all this seemingly intuitively.

  • @MarkPMus
    @MarkPMus Před rokem +4

    Good point re-contractions, but I wish you’d mentioned the absolute howler of an error that even native English speakers make, which is writing/saying should of etc… instead of should have. Mind you that probably needs a video of its own!

    • @markweatherill
      @markweatherill Před rokem +1

      Should of, could of, would of! Yes, it's very poor. On a par with using 'brought' instead of 'bought'..!

    • @hmm7420
      @hmm7420 Před rokem

      I never say "should of, could of would of". I say "should've, could've, would've" quite regularly, however.

    • @MarkPMus
      @MarkPMus Před rokem +1

      @@hmm7420 And you’d be correct. Could’ve is short for could have. Could of doesn’t make sense. OMG another AWFUL contraction error people, particularly in East London/Essex make, is confusing “his” and “he’s”. “Peter’s only gone and lost he’s keys!” instead of HIS keys. Drives me nuts.

  • @ibrahimabah2628
    @ibrahimabah2628 Před 2 lety

    thank you so much Teacher

  • @monicaconsigliereLavieenfleur

    Thanks very useful

  • @C-handle-r
    @C-handle-r Před rokem

    Example 6: such a relief!

  • @ajs11201
    @ajs11201 Před rokem +7

    I agree that contractions are perfectly fine in almost all writing. Oftentimes when I choose to write out both words, it is to emphasize or draw attention to the negative. "He can't eat that" versus "He cannot eat that"--in the first, I'd hear "can't" as "shouldn't" and in the second, I'd hear it as an imperative.

    • @xXJ4FARGAMERXx
      @xXJ4FARGAMERXx Před rokem

      Yes exactly.
      "But I'm writing my essay" vs.
      "But I _am_ writing my essay"

    • @hmm7420
      @hmm7420 Před rokem +5

      Even more confusingly, the examples he gave, "Can't we do that again?" and "Can we not do that again?", very often are used to mean the opposite. Usually, when I say or write "Can't we do that again?", I mean "Can we do that again? Because I want to do that again." Usually, but not always, when I say or write, "Can we not do that again?", I mean, "I sincerely hope we don't do that again. I don't want to do that again." But it depends on context in writing and tone of voice in speaking.

    • @ajs11201
      @ajs11201 Před rokem

      @@hmm7420 Agreed. That's the nuance of writing out the contraction--to emphasize the negative aspect. Yours is an excellent example of that. Thanks.

  • @positiveandstrong
    @positiveandstrong Před 2 lety

    You're a brilliant teacher!

  • @ba8898
    @ba8898 Před rokem +5

    Really interesting vid! I disagree with the last opinion, though. Contractions should definitely be avoided in formal writing, e.g. business reports, university papers and probably formal letters. That they've become normal in business emails is just a feature of the fact that business email correspondence has become more and more informal overall. Contractions are okay in journalism (opinion pieces, etc.) and fiction (hence Orwell), but they definitely go against the existing conventions of academic writing.

    • @alanwhiplington5504
      @alanwhiplington5504 Před rokem +1

      You are right. it's worth noting that Cambridge exams directed towards foreign students of English always accept contractions as correct no matter how formal the written task. I think this is because they want to encourage the use of contractions which many non-natives seem to assume are slang.

  • @lazybaby525
    @lazybaby525 Před 2 lety

    It was interesting. I've been learning English for a long time. But I haven't known about these facts of English grammar. Thank you

  • @wolf1066
    @wolf1066 Před rokem +1

    You really need to tell that bit about it being OK to use contractions in formal writing to those wankers at Microsoft - I'm sick to death of having bloody green squiggly lines all over my emails because I've said something like "I'll work on your request after I've finished the monthly reporting. It shouldn't take more than 15 minutes." Bloody Microsoft -Outlook- Outhouse and its shitty "grammar checking".

  • @RayyMusik
    @RayyMusik Před rokem +1

    All members of The Whom are excellent musicians. 🙃

  • @marcus577
    @marcus577 Před rokem

    I’m 100 English I was the spotted school boy at the back of the class. Randomly visit your pages. All the best.

  • @wilderbeest773
    @wilderbeest773 Před 2 lety +1

    I personally would avoid using the comparative or superitive of the word "perfect" because the word itself implies (to me at least) whatever you're talking about can't possibly get any better.

  • @lessonslearned6760
    @lessonslearned6760 Před rokem +2

    Im a native English speaker and I speak Latin as a second language and spanish as a 3rd ( although my spanish still needs a lot of work) so I stumbled upon this video by accident and I have to say it’s given me a really interesting perspective because even though my Latin is pretty good my native language obviously comes most naturally to me and although I’m sure that I follow all of these “rules” I am nearly completely ignorant of their existence! And I am quite confident that I would be a far better Latin teacher than an English teacher because much like an English student who may watch this video I had to study all of the rules of grammar in order to pick up my second language ( luckily it is very similar to Spanish so I didn’t have to start all over lol) also I make my living as a music teacher and I can’t help but to notice how similar learning grammar is to learning music theory; it’s very helpful and kind of a road map to get to where you are going and yet many of the people who make the best music don’t know the first thing about music theory. I guess the lesson to be learned from all of this is that if you are learning a new language definitely learn grammar but don’t worry too much about it because at the end of the day they are not “rules” they are conventions and the point of language is to understand and to be understood so don’t let the fear of making a mistake or speaking”improperly “ stop you from using the language. I just returned from holiday in Spain and hardly anyone there spoke English fluently so I was forced to use my poor spanish but what I found was that people seemed to really appreciate the fact that I was making the attempt to speak in their language and it was actually a lot of fun !

    • @denidale4701
      @denidale4701 Před rokem +1

      I am curious, how did you end up with speaking a dead language as second language? That sounds like an interesting story.

    • @stranger9216
      @stranger9216 Před rokem

      @@denidale4701 seriously!😅 I couldn't wrap my head around that too

  •  Před rokem

    “Go on” is a phrasal verb. It doesn’t follow the verb+ing grammar rule. There also rules that are specific for certain verbs, such as like, love, hate, start, stop. These verbs can be followed either by an infinitive or a verb+ing, and this will depend on the intended use.

  • @berdeter
    @berdeter Před rokem

    My English teacher used to say "there's no rules. Only exceptions".

  • @bookmouse2719
    @bookmouse2719 Před 2 lety +1

    My Mother was very adamant for the family to not say 'more better', one would just say 'better'.

  • @EdsonSilva-qr5gr
    @EdsonSilva-qr5gr Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this content

  • @MarioRodriguez-ow9rl
    @MarioRodriguez-ow9rl Před rokem +3

    There's another inevitable use of "whom", when it comes after "to" in "to whom" such as "to whom it may concern" or "this is the person to whom..."
    I was explained that "whom" must be used when a object pronoun must be used. For instance, you would say "for hiM/theM" so "for whoM" or "to hiM/theM" so "to whoM"

  • @petersdotter1
    @petersdotter1 Před rokem

    From French, "if, then" is: present/future; imperfect/conditional; past perfect/future perfect. Makes total sense.

  • @Stefan_trekkie
    @Stefan_trekkie Před rokem +1

    English is my 3rd language and learn it by myself. I come from a phonetic language with different alphabet /Cyrillic/ and had a very hard time understanding the concept of writing a letter but not pronouncing it or pronouncing it differently when it's a certain combination.

  • @dhy5342
    @dhy5342 Před rokem

    I'd like your dissertation on the use, misuse, and alternatives to using the word "ain't".

  • @Milesco
    @Milesco Před rokem +1

    And of course, the most notable fake "rule" (that never even was a rule and need not be followed) is the one prohibiting ending a sentence with a preposition. (E.g, "This is a tough problem to deal with," or "He had a lot of hoops to jump through.")
    This "rule" apparently came about in the 19th century when scholars were focused on classical antiquity and tried adapt Latin grammar rules to English. But English ain't Latin, so the "rule" doesn't apply. As Churchill famously (but probably never) said, "This is something up with which I will not put!"

  • @EmilyTienne
    @EmilyTienne Před rokem +1

    If you’re learning English as a second language, don’t fret over any of this. It’s not that important. No point in breaking your head.

  • @grantofat6438
    @grantofat6438 Před rokem

    I think it can sometimes make a difference to not using contractions. If you want to be more firm, like giving an order. For instance: "do not do that" instead of "don't do that" is more firm. It emphasizes the "not" and you hear it more like "do NOT do that".

  • @lennylenoir
    @lennylenoir Před rokem

    In example 2, "keep" is valid since it can be replaced with "continue"

  • @diannadarling699
    @diannadarling699 Před 6 měsíci

    Please do-“feel badly”… my Dad said, and I agree, that “I feel badly” implies some tactile physical action, which a feeling is not…

  • @GroovingPict
    @GroovingPict Před rokem +1

    Those who say you shouldnt use contractions in formal writing should try to read any book or writing from, say, the 17th or 18th century; they would surely have a heart attack, with words like "every" being contracted to "ev'ry" and so on. Tons of contractions that wouldn't even occur to us to use today

  • @Tranquitronquista
    @Tranquitronquista Před 2 lety

    Nice one, thanks! 🖖🧔

  • @georgetokarev9515
    @georgetokarev9515 Před rokem

    The rule "no verb after a preposition" is rock solid! Mr. Gideon"s example "he went on to look for a job" only confirms it. The thing is that in English there are only two verb forms -V1 (present indefinite) and V2 (past indefinite). The infinitive, Ving and V3 forms are not verbs.

  • @manjirabanerjee7169
    @manjirabanerjee7169 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks Sir for this immensely helpful lesson.I'd rather you discussed the nuances of 'notwithstanding' once again.Much obliged.

  • @timschantz3233
    @timschantz3233 Před rokem

    I was taught comparatives, more vs -er depended on the origin of the word. Latin based used more/ most while Germanic used -er/est.

  • @isabelatence7035
    @isabelatence7035 Před 2 lety +2

    Good thing we can relax with rules, it helps a lot not to worry about how to use adjectives, I can't be pompous in English, I'm still in my infancy in English. Facilitate I prefer. Good to see you Gideon. See you in the next video😎 thanks!

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm sure you're making good progress. Be relaxed with the rules

    • @isabelatence7035
      @isabelatence7035 Před 2 lety

      @@LetThemTalkTV thanks Professor 🧡

  • @ihavenoname6724
    @ihavenoname6724 Před 2 lety

    Thank you buddy, you clearly know what you're talking about, unlike many other youtubers who don't (I won't name names), and who reproduce rubbish grammar rules like #3.

    • @frankgradus9474
      @frankgradus9474 Před 2 lety

      That's true - LTTTV is a unique beast in the English teaching world, thanks to Gideon's charismatic and charming personality and his deadpan humour, but don't be so harsh on other youtubers. They try their best for sure - he only sets the standard. It's easier.

    • @ihavenoname6724
      @ihavenoname6724 Před 2 lety

      @@frankgradus9474 You're right---I agree.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  Před 2 lety

      Thank you for your vote of confidence

  • @umka7536
    @umka7536 Před rokem

    With "if you will" example it is good to remember that "will" origins from German "wollen" - "to want". Hence, the meaning of "if you will" maybe more close to "if you want to" and has nothing to do with a future tense .

  • @RegebroRepairs
    @RegebroRepairs Před rokem

    Learning English in Sweden, nobody tried to claim there was any grammar or spelling rules at all. 🙂

  • @FlatOnHisFace
    @FlatOnHisFace Před rokem

    I'm an English major and I've never heard a professor say that! English has more exceptions than rules. It is known.

  • @jmelkis
    @jmelkis Před rokem

    George Orwell made a lot of excellent observations in “Politics and the English Language.” He really was a master of English writing too.

  • @teachersama
    @teachersama Před rokem

    "If you will keep on bringing up these awesome tips, I will subscribe".
    (I already did, great content).

  • @piotrh3881
    @piotrh3881 Před rokem

    As regards rule two, there is one exception, that is hardly even spoken about, when ‘if’ introduces an indirect question, for instance:
    ‘I don’t know if he will like the show’
    Students are also often taught never to put ‘will’ after ‘when’, whereas this concerns only the time clauses. In other cases, if referring to the future, don’t be afraid to use ‘will’, for example:
    ‘I don’t know when he will come back’
    ‘When will he be ready?”
    But:
    “When I come back/am ready, I will make dinner” - this is an adverbial clause of time or simply put, a time clause, where ‘will’ never comes after ‘when’

  • @maythesciencebewithyou
    @maythesciencebewithyou Před 2 lety +1

    contractions like gonna, ain't and other informal ones should be alright in wriging if you have your characters say these things.