THE MANY SAINTS OF NEWARK - Movie Review
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They should have credited the screenplay to Chris Moltisanti. Would have explained a lot.
Lol
It was actually secretly written by JT Dolan, he had a head injury though so he wasn't at his best here.
It would make so much sense there. A head injury based screenwriting on screen there.
this movie goes right under little carmine's subspecies
@@monkeyhighlord4412 the sacred and the propane. Lol
It was like Silvio's impression of Michael Corleone playing Silvio in the movie.
It made me cringe.
Really OTT performance.
Silvio was already campy and exagerrated in the show. It was intentional. And if the actor here downplayed it people would still complain.
@@razzberrythunder3638 yea but I can see similar mannerisms.. it was like they were trying to duplicate exactly which I thought was over the top… disappointing… if they had the guys playing Tony’s father and JR in flashbacks from the series! That would have been sweet, obv they are much older though… overall junior soprano they made out to look like a complete idiot slob lol..
Which is just so Silvio
I heard David Chase wanted to make a film about the Newark riots, but no one was interested until he tied the Sopranos to it.
Maybe that was why he had more focus on the Newark Riots itself because even the fanbase can bitterly twist it into a sopranos prequel in a 2 hour movie format and lores, story and characters plots that would’ve fit in more in a tv series format more so than in a movie format. That’s why it felt so short and unfinished somewhat.
that actually makes sense for all that shoe horned shit storyline, that led nowhere anyways..
He should have just done that instead of making a Sopranos project. Although personally I'm tired of modern movies set in the 60's or older days going over racism and riots and what not, it comes off as pandering, direction-less and trying to push narratives. Like are you demonizing the act or glorifying it? And if you're not gonna give a definitive answer then don't do it at all. Raises a lot more questions as to why you're making a project like that in the first place.
@@scottroxford5715 who does it pander to tho?
@@qsings8674 Crazy people that want to pretend America is really racist all because of some shit that happened when these people weren't even born or a thought.
The funniest thing about this movie is that almost any single episode of the series has a better character arc in it than this does.
They always made sure to take time to flesh out the narrative and tie loose ends. This had 0 finesse. Super disappointing.
You know who had an ark? Noah.
The series did have a few 'episodes of the week' that lacked character
They'd introduce a character just to kill them off in the same episode, rather like how Oz did in its latter seasons. One such episode was the one featuring the inept asthmatic hit man, which was bad enough, but made worse by the fact it was played by Paulie from Rocky.
@@highnoon7097 The one beam of light in this turkey: The actress playing Livia (Tony's mom) hit the only high mark in the movie.
@@highnoon7097 how hard do you party Paul?
"The Many Saints of Newark looks more like it came from the makers of CLEAVER rather than the makers of THE SOPRANOS. Disgusting." -- Silvio Dante
@@darnellmajor9016 its what I imagine him saying 🤣
Dont disrespect Cleaver like that. 😆
Hey Sil, remember when you were 40 years old in 1972?
@@listentothenightfilms are you thinking of his dad lmao
@@darnellmajor9016 Yes, Silvio Dante really said that.
When baby chris started crying at Tony I of course was like "Ohohoh the baby knows hahaha lol"
movie points it out
"yup ok"
refrences it even more
"yeah ok we get it"
That was so awful.
How about the omen of the bird in the garage during the altercation between Dickie and his father Hollywood?
A bird also showed up during Christopher’s big day of being made into the family, and he even told Adriana that he believes that damn bird was a bad omen.
Thought the same thing! Expected the lady to look at the camera and wink, it was so cringey.
If they just left it at the bird
..that would've been a nice subtle touch
@@clintronious lol
Look how they massacred my boy
BLM propaganda.
I'll tell you one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it, my estimation of David Chase as a man just fucking plummeted.
@@darnellmajor9016 His coach turned into a pumpkin.
@@listentothenightfilms I know his bottom was impacted, if that's what you referring to.
@@Nnnnn636 Let me ask you this, if they can make him create a movie like this, and if he's that weak. What the fuck else can they make him do?
Dan Matthews.. David Chase is a come from behind kinda guy.
@@rkygonz Exactly
Unfortunately, she’s absolutely right. I just finished watching this movie in the theater (I have HBO MAX but I was so exited and eager to see this film that I though I would be negligent not to experience it on the big screen). I was so angry when the credits started rolling that I found myself almost running back to the parking lot, as if I wanted to leave the whole experience behind as fast as I could. This whole movie felt as if someone at HBO decided to put together 120 minutes of flashbacks that were deleted from the show, somehow expecting it to magically come together, but the end result has no focus, no real depth, and worst of all, it seems to have no point. Even the actual flashbacks that were seen in the series (one of them was re-shot for this movie) were way better and more effective than anything you’re presented with here.
It’s really a pity, and I’m sure a lot of hard work was put into this movie, but it just doesn’t work, not remotely.
David Chase and his colleagues made what is arguably the best American television series in history, nobody can take that away from them, but this movie is a far, uninspiring cry from the groundbreaking achievement in storytelling that preceded it.
Shit man I hate to agree with everything you said but I would be lying if i said otherwise. Well summed up
@@wethecaptainnow8111 thanks, what a bummer right?!! I walked in thinking like - “worst case scenario this movie might end up feeling like another episode instead of a theatrical release (which would have ultimately been ok)”, but even as hard as I tried to loosen up and bring myself to enjoy it for what it was, I really wasn’t able to. I hope they just leave it alone from now on, seems like nothing will ever match the quality of the original show.
Me and you had same experience.
Even like jr soprano, like a complete idiot? Sylvia was but over the top… it’s 2021 so of course harold has to be the antagonist with his little views… and yea alright guy a Italian women from 60s banging everyone and sleeping with black dude from Newark? Idk maybe they should have done this 10 years ago.. the whole thing was just silly and disappointing.. like a setup for a franchise style and way a to grab more audiences..
I thought it was pretty good.
Yeah, the way Sylvio was played in this movie made it seem like a parody that belonged in a comedy skit.
But so was the original Silvio, it's Stevie Van Zandt in a wig pulling a permanent scowl and talking and moving like no human being has ever talked or moved. The issue is doing an SNL tier impression of something that feels like an SNL tier impression is of course gonna be twice as dumb as its predecessor
Sil was always over the top. Subtle scenery chewing.
I kinda liked his portrayal. I thought it was spot on Sil
@@lukess.s exactly lol. All the haters of this movie have the dumbest nonsense reasons to complain. Most of the sopranos characters were played as parodies and ridiculous. Paulie and Silvio especially. But even chris was a dumbass tony tried to act smart repeating shit from his therapy. Like did ppl not watch the original show??
So Silvio acted like Silvio. Over the top with stiff shoulders and extended arms. Whats the problem
The Coaching blind kids baseball was the best part. Ray’s like GTFOH!
Why they had Ray cast twice as a twin was weird.
Beep ball. Was a great scene and kids at funeral was sad
He definitely dreamed up his uncle
@@billycarr no he didn’t they were at funeral. I thought same until the funeral the writers even said that’s why they put them in funeral scene. Haven’t u ever day dreamed. He was coping w/ being a sociopath that he could do saint like deeds
@@SavAnz81 I actually think that was one of the upsides of the movie. The brothers were character foils both played by the same actor. It’s a classic movie tradition like Dr.Jekel and Mr. Hyde. Like they said in the Sooranos. You either end up in 6 feet under or in the can.
When David Lynch created Twin Peaks Season 3, he turned nostalgia and fan service on its head. It was brilliant. David Chase missed a real opportunity here.
By definition, nostalgia is when you like something just because it reminds you of the past, and not because said thing actually has any substantive merit. Appealing to nonstalgia is the most shallow thing a storyteller can do, and produces nothing but a hollow product. David Lynch understood this, but seemingly David Chase didn't.
Your summation of Dicky's character was great. This definitely needed to be a mini series
Yup I agree
“I think The Sopranos when it’s at its best is about almost nothing.”
This statement from you made me subscribe. My favorite season is season 4 but I’m always told “nothing happens in season 4”. I’m glad that even if season 4 isn’t your favorite season, you see what I see.
Whoever Did This, Whitecaps both really stand out imo. Alan Sapinsly is one of the best 1-episode ‘nonentity’ characters.
“I’ll tort you into the poor house.”
I agree, some would say the series got slower as it went along but they found a brilliance in building up tension without having to off a character every show.
I didn't dislike it but the film seemed like what is was, an eight hour script chopped down to a two hour movie. It should have been a HBO miniseries.
It committed what i call the greatest sin in screenwriting. Inclusion of too many plot lines. It not only bogs down the entire plot, but gives a bad taste to the viewer( I don't give a fu** about audience). The thing which solves this problem is the steady pace of handling 2 to 4 plot points in a movie. You follow more, you get less. This movie exactly suffers from that. Mind me, minimum 2 maximum 4, could be 5 too. You try to handle more, you jumble up. You lose track and then good movie becomes mediocre.
Agree with pretty much everything you said. I’m shocked that Chase co-wrote this. Where was the great dialogue? This film was devoid of charm and humor . I mean, did he write this in a single night?
The actor who played Dickie was phenomenal. And Corey Stoll was great too
@@theconsciousobserver6829 Phenomenal? Bit of a reach there, chief.
Ya I agree with everything her and you ...I was expecting alot more...but didn't see uncal Junior clipping Dicki...so in the series did Junior tell Tony he had Dicki clipped ? Hiw did Tony know
Idk, I thought a lot of the dialogue was quite good. It was more the focus of the plot that bugged me a bit.
Aarin Langan I doubt Tony ever knew it was Junior…why would Junior possibly tell anyone that it was him? It was probably assumed it was Harold, and Tony just used the cop thing as a way for Chris to demonstrate his loyalty.
The guy playing Silvio was the lead in Chase's film Not Fade Away, so that's probably where they got him from. But I've never fully appreciated how Steven Van Zandt made Sil's cartoonish mannerisms feel real until now.
Chase said he might do a sequel only if Terence Winter comes on board, and Winter is such a good writer that maybe them together with Chase directing might turn out more fruitful, but at this point I don't care enough anymore.
Yeah for me to care at all about a sequel to this movie, Chase better go get all of the original writers back. Many Saints was a major disappointment . I actually was bored at times and I can’t
Believe I’m saying that about this movie
Just watched the movie. I agree with you 100% that this feels more like a fan service rather than capturing the essence of Sopranos which was new mobsters trying to live in the glory days of the past. This feels like odd...
Also I feel like movie may have been better if they didn't include the riot storyline. It would have been better. This would have been better as a miniseries, if they really wanted to do the story about Sopranos. Not sure why David Chase wanted to do this. I was also caught off guard when he also came on the screen( he played the mob boss in the movie)
The great thing about Sopranos was it's ending. My friends hate it and I loved it. I thought I didn't want to see my favourite character get killed in screen even though I know he probably did get shot in that diner.
I agree that guy who played Silvio played a caricature version of Van Zandt.
Many of y’all think this movie is just to give the story of The Sopranos but really David Chase mentioned in the interview that this movie mainly reflects on Ep 1 of Season 4 till the end, the film focuses on who was Christopher’s dad and who motivated Tony to become the man that he was.
I agree with you regarding the riots. If it were a standalone movie about one man’s rise during that time as well as taking on the mob. I would watch that movie in a heartbeat.
The story of the movie would have worked better as a limited series, to have enough time to delve in those smaller stories and how they affect the story as a whole.
I went in knowing it was going to focus on Dickie and his influence on Anthony. But I felt that we didn’t get enough of that either.
Even still I did enjoy the movie, despite its being a weaker story. 7.5/10 for me.
I was puzzled by the race riot storyline as well. I understand maybe showing a glimpse of it on the tv but to focus on it for 10-15 minutes was pointless. The line given by the military “oh he’s white let him through!” Was god awful . I can’t believe Chase kept that in the movie
This movie ultimately felt like a pilot to a very generic gangster series, one in which Harold is a main character .. meh
@@billsimms2511 I think I cringed so hard I blocked that part out, until just now lol. But you’re spot on about that scene and the generic feeling of it all too. A+
Helllllll no, thabk god this wasnt made into a series with these actors, they didnt even feel italian none of them, we’re lucky its jsut a movie ppl will forget about this garbage in a week u if they made this into a show it was stain the legacy of the original show
After watching the movie i felt like Paulie " I can't believe I stuck up for him I feel like I've been stabbed in the heart"
Die hard sopranos fan from Bergen county New Jersey. Man I went into this with moderate expectations but was prepared for it to be bad. I wake up at 6 am and see the first 30 mins and realized it sucks. The dialogue is cringe at times, at times it comes off like a parody. The sopranos never talked like how they talk in the movie. This should have never been made I’m sorry
I absolutely love the tv series and sadly I have to agree with everything you said. It pains me so!
It definitely felt like they tried to cram too much into this film. Left me with wanting to see more. And I get what you are saying where this now forever changes The Sopranos universe. After seeing this film and knowing that Junior was actually behind the murder of Dickie, you will now have that in your mind when rewatching the show.
Ray Liota was simultaneously the best and worst of the film......he chewed up the scenery as the father, but gave a powerful and restrained performance as the twin brother/uncle. If they had thrown away the cliche trope of the twin brother and had cast a different actor as Dickie's father and let Liotta shine as the uncle, he could've gotten an Oscar nomination....because he was great as the uncle.
I thought it was kind of neat as a metaphore for the two sides of dickie, the selfish and criminal side, and the reserved idealistic side. By killing his father, he sort of dooms himself to become him, and he goes to his uncle in a desperate search for validation. He wants so badly to have his uncle tell him, "you're like me", but he never gets that validation. I guess you could still have that with two different actors, but It would be a little less stark. That might've been the only thing thing movie I unambiguously liked in the movie.
Nothing more to say, pretty much spot on
Silvio was played like a bad impression, like Silvio doing Michael Corleone
And Junior being regulated to spitting out his catchphrases over and over is insulting
I cringed when Junior have the “varsity athlete” line.. it didn’t land at all
I think all of Junior’s lines are catchphrases.
Yes, the guy who played Silvio only did an impression of the original actor wich doesnt make sense because people change in a couple of decades. Unlike the guy who played Paulie. IMO he did one of the best jobs portraying one of the original actor from the show. He didnt have a big role in the movie but in every scene he was in you could see him and say "Oh, yes. Thats definitely Paulie a couple of decades ago"
I agree 100 percent it felt like people just doing impressions of them really bad.
They needed more Johnny, Livia, Jr, Tony, Janice family dynamic in the movie.
This review mirrors my reaction exactly. Perhaps Chase really wanted to make a film about the race riots and the only way he could get the money was to sell his baby's soul? I can only assume that this atonal mess was the result of some sort of Gangs of New York fracas between Chase and the producers (recall how Marty struggled to make a serious historical epic while Harvey demanded more sophomoric 'romance' between DiCaprio and Diaz?) The film feels similarly conflicted, vacillating between heavy-handed political messages about race and paper-thin fan service 'references' for Sopranos geeks. It lacks everything that made Sopranos great: the modernity, the zippy dialogue, the humour, the psychological and thematic nuance, the paradox of ultra-violent criminal behaviour lying cheek and jowl with Tony's double-life as a harassed husband and father...
Most of all, it lacks a compelling central performance to rival James Gandolfini's. Tony Soprano was obscenely charismatic and likeable even while doing the most monstrous things. You couldn't take your eyes off him. We were attracted, we were sympathetic, we were repulsed -- sometimes simultaneously. Nobody comes close to bringing the vitality of the players from the original series. The actors put in workmanlike performances here, but they have so very little to do other than to ape better performances from the show itself. Everything feels tepid, at least when compared with the original series. We watch Dicky do some appalling things, but we never feel any of the danger or unhinged threat we experienced from Sopranos characters like Ralph Cifaretto or Richie Aprile.
The film lurches into the queasy territory of unintentional self-parody whenever the actor who plays a 'young' Silvio is onscreen. This Silvio is the most hammy act of caricature I've witnessed in some time, like an animatronic puppet in a Sopranos theme park. (I enjoyed Maggie's reaction to him tremendously!)
The prison dialogues between Dicky and Sally Moltisanti seem a desperate writer's contrivance to recapture some of the iconic philosophical back-and-forth we saw between Tony and Melfi. It doesn't work, and we don't care.
Although I thought the film as a whole was an insipid missed opportunity, I do want to highlight one moment of true greatness where we glimpse some of the old Chase magic: the final frame where a young Tony pinky-swears his allegiance to his uncle's corpse and symbolically vows fealty to a self-destructive, death-obsessed gangster path. That shot is morbidly funny, surreal and insightful - a wonderful ending, and a taste of what might've been.
Having grown up in the North ward of Newark I can tell you that they didn’t tell the story of the riots at all.
that was a great rebuttal, totally agreed
This is the only reviewed I've watched/listened to/read that is coming from an actual Sopranos fan who fairly criticizes this movie and even its necessity to be made. Everything else I've seen/heard has either been hard-core fans bending over backwards to defend it or distant viewers critiquing it without an understanding of what actually needs to be critiqued. As a hard-core fan myself, who has watched the series many times through, watches clips everyday, and will even watch the bad Sopranos fan channels and theories just to keep getting a taste, I cannot tell you how disappointed I was with this movie. I went to the theater last night to see it. I was hyped. My favorite show's prequel and my first time in a theater in a year and a half. As the movie played on, I kept feeling like: "so when are we going to start this thing?" It felt so rushed despite being 2 hours. It felt like none of the characters, even Dickie, really grew or showed themselves. it kinda felt like I was watching scenes from 10 different mob movies spliced into one... with very minimal linear aspects aside the characters and the show it is based on. What saddens me is many of themes within the movie felt like they could have been explored much more deeply on their own. Livia, who is played brilliantly, and Tony's relationship has some intregue here, but it is more cut scenes then fleshed out story line. The motives of Dicky's gf (Hollywood Dick's) wife, Giuseppina plays a major role but we never learn anything about her. She is beautiful, Italian, and seems to make romantic decisions based on attraction (maybe?). We never learn anything real about her background or motives. And the old characters sprinkled about the movie like Paulie and Pussy and Silvio feel more like a Sopranos greatest hits compilation album then thought-out characters. They oddly reminded me of the SNL skit "Sopranos Diaries." Not to mention, we never really get a deep dive into Dicky's antagonist in the film, Howard. While we can infer, based upon on our knowledge of the Newark riots and the larger Black Liberation movement; what the movie presents to us is a guy who heard a poem and decided he should own the Numbers game. It felt shallow, and a bit appropriative, placing Black Lib as the inspiration point for ownership of an exploitative criminal undertaking within black communities. Yet, with some back story, some understanding of conflict during their time together, the Harold and Dicky storyline could have been really interesting. There are other nitpicks that I won't get fully into, but I do want to add: how does a guy go to jail at 25 for killing a made man, and not end up in a compactor somewhere? Even if the cops get him first, with the connections the mob had in prison, even solitary (which he wasn't in) wouldn't have saved him. Anyway, thank you for the most honest and well thought out review. I look forward to exploring your channel more after watching this.
This is very well said.
Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere yet but how did everyone miss Tony's dog Tippy? His dad is walking the dog he would eventually give away to his goomah. Tony sees the picture of his dog when he's at Fran Felsteins house.
Good observation
@@9magnetic514 the sacred and the propane
Did u catch Boston Terrier picture on wall when dickie talks to young Tony about behaving the first pinkie swear scene
I remember that scene and I remember the dog Tippy. They could have done a wayyyyyyy better job of the Many Saints Of Newark leading up to Tony Soprano becoming the made guy and they showed one clip of Carmilla Soprano and less of Paulie Silvio and they showed more of Dickie and they could have a better job of this They did show Tony Soprano and Michael nailed his dad's character and I would have liked to have seen more of Tony Soprano and Carmilla and the rest of the gang. They showed Pussy, Paulie, and Silvio Dante, and Tony and Johnny Boy and Liva Soprano and Vera nailed it as Liva Soprano. I would have liked to have seen more of Johnny Boy's Goomahs and Johnny Boy's history. They got all the scenes in of The Sopranos.
The thumbnail says it all.
The depiction of 1960s black culture in this seemed really shoehorned and disingenuous. It actually made me appreciate the fourth season of Fargo a lot more for how they approached it.
None of that stuff should have been in the movie at all
I was crazy dissapointed as a huge Sopranos fan...I have all the seasons on DVD maybe I'll bust those out this weekend
I just bought the blu-ray complete boxset of The Sopranos in preparation for this film, but after this review, I think I’ll just watch the whole show and leave it at that. Seems like the best option.
Watch the show first. The film gives away an immediate spoiler for the show. So only see if you've watched the rest.
Stick to the show. The show takes a shit on this movie.
@@deepfocuslens Will do. Thank you! :-)
Your not going to watch it based on other people’s opinions.....I loved it thought it was great .....think for your self and form your own Opinion.....and it’s got a 80% approval rating so most people really liked it
I found this girl is really smug in her review i didn’t agree with her a analysis of the show or the movie so 🤷🏻
It was okay. Cheesy at times, poor writing at times. The ending is beyond rushed and a couple storylines from the movie they totally forget to resolve. The acting was good particularly from Vera Farmiga, I felt Silvio’s actor was trying way too hard to be Silvio, felt more like a meme of the character than anything. 6/10
Sil in the main show was kind of a meme to begin with. I thought he actually did the mannerisms and cadence very very well. Better than most of the other characters. You could clearly tell that was sil immediately.
@@Flowerz__ a balding 40 year old when Tony is a kid is Sil to you? Watch the show for once
@@Obs23456 did u read my comment? I thought he did the mannerisms and cadence of the character better than almost anyone else in the movie. The bald shit whatever. Doesn’t ruin it for me personally. Everything else with the character was great. You could tell it was sil
@@Flowerz__ only from the trailer and mannerisms. Otherwise I have no clue who this bald mob associate it when Tony is a kid since canonically that makes no sense
@@Obs23456 why doesn’t it make sense to you? He’s older than tony. Not that difficult to understand really
You know, Quasimodo predicted all of this
I gotta say tho, the fact that Gandalfini’s son plays his fathers titular character did bear some meaning for me. I bought it. I know many people won’t agree with me on that but I bought him 100% as young tony. What I really wanted to see was his rise into leadership in the family. And from what it seems, there very well might be a sequel.
Part of me wonders if the people who hate this movie have what I call “Eminem syndrome” where they will never accept anything new Marshall mathers does because it’s not exactly like, or exactly as good as his first 2 albums… part of me enjoyed this movie and part of me hated it. But at no point did I think it was an insult to the original show. David chase is directly involved, and tony is played by the original actors son. And I’m sure that was an emotional, cathartic experience for him to connect to his dad in that way. This is done by a lot of the original makers of the show. And yes, art is subjective so some people will hate it and some will love it, but I never thought this movie was an insult to the show itself.
I liked him but i thought he should have had an accent or something, hearing his voice just made me think 2020 kid
But other than that i liked him as young Tony
@@justinc7362 you didn’t think he had an accent? I’m from New York with family from the city and he sounded pretty Newark Jersey to me.
You make some good points, however in all realism, you cant equate 2 hours of material to 86 hours of material... if the new characters we "fleshed out more" like many fan(atics) crave, you would be looking at a film almost the length of "Once Upon A Time In America" but hey, "everyones a critic"
The problem is that as Maggie points out, the film is juggling way too much in trying to set itself as a prequel to an 86 hour tv show. Characters get reduced to caricatures. Chris Moltasanti's narration is overwhelmingly on the nose. And the kicker?
The Sopranos did a much better job at handling Tony's backstory, because it was able to take the time to develop it without over explaining it.
He looks like his dad but has none of the acting qualties and screen presence. Thats a fact.
There really wasn’t a story it was just a mix of different shit with a lot of random fan service moments this was so disappointing
Good review. I still enjoyed the movie, however I really do agree with your points. All the fan service really is beneath David Chase, and you’re right that leaving things ambiguous with powerful images is more effective than over-exposition. I did really like Michael Gandolfini’s performance though, the story is still compelling and was exciting to watch as fresh Sopranos content…Christopher’s narration especially was quite well done in my opinion…however, the question still stands as to what the point of this film was, and especially why if it affects the original feelings we have to the show in any way.
This is how I feel too
Now I understand why David Chase was upset it was released on HBO Max. He knew this movie did not have the makings of a varsity athlete like The Sopranos series. So the word will get out more from the people who watched it to say don’t waste your time in the theaters
Points at Joey Diaz “The comedian, huh?”
Tremendous
He was terrible in it.
I think I'm like a lot of people in the comment section here. I just ran across your video cuz it came up in the search. Wow. The only honest, articulate, intelligent review of this movie on all of CZcams! When you watch other reviewers they never want to bash the movie too bad just in case it clashes with their fantasy of actually not rubbing someone the wrong way that later in their influencer career might not sit down for an interview with them, lol. They watch their words, usually have some fancy beginning with some music intro they bought on a website, and a backdrop of whatever. But you.... Your naturally inherent observational critique just pours out of you. But I think you're the kind of person that couldn't stop it if you tried. Your criticisms and deconstruction of the film all ring true with the correctness of only someone who had a deep love and understanding for the source material. For everyone else it was just another review or video to monetize. I'm in love. Anywho,... Great video keep it up, people want to see something genuine and you're certainly it.
The words from Larry ring very true. Well said.
same here
I liked it. I went in knowing it would have flaws and wouldn't be as stellar as the series, and the fan service was a bit patronizing. It doesn't have the makings of a varsity athlete tho.
@Shah of the shinebox.. maybe you didn't hear about it, you been away along time they didn't go up there and tell ya,.. I don't shine shoes anymore!
Just your name alone had me LMFAO!!! 🤣😅😂 My estimation of you as a Shah, just fuckin' skyrocketed!
I agree. I knew it would have problems when I read that Tony wasn’t the focus. He SHOULD have been the focus. It’s like they wanted to make a movie where he wasn’t the main plot point but they couldn’t help but keep going back to him anyway. I think they should make another movie, or make a another series. I think the actors playing their respective roles were great. A series that’s completely focused on Tony starting out and up until he robs the card game and gets made would be great.
What do you mean by fan service? Can you give some examples specific to this movie?
So, I agree that the film has issues at the end in terms pacing with Jr and that the casting is at times jarring (though not always).
However, there is a lot of it that works because of a key thing: time.
1) When Tony or any character recall the past in the show, it always left for interpretation whether it’s the whole truth. Keeping every character essential would not only be predictable, but the universe wouldn’t be able to expand.
2) Most of characters have not reached an iconic status at this point in the story. While a few scenes with Jr. would’ve worked, I expected a slow build up to gain small bits of perspective.
There is something that is so alluring about the Sopranos world that works on film. The production design, cinematography, and tone. I was very happy walking out of the theater (yes, I’m that big of a sopranos that I went to theater to see it).
I agree with some of the things you mentioned, but I would still recommend it.
Just watched it. You summarized it perfectly and were very eloquent (a lot more eloquent than me) in your description of it. My jaw dropped in how bad it was….I loved your reaction to Silvio’s character. Ooof. I feel like people are going to be more nice than they should be in criticizing this because of Michael Gandolfini’s presence in the film. This was a made for TV movie disaster put on the big screen.
Just out of curiosity, did you also watch breaking bad and sons of anarchy? I’d be really curious to know what you thought of those shows (as their own beasts, and also in relation to sopranos). SOA had a lot of sopranos actors in it, and breaking bad was such a vivid example of the descent of a good man into evil. Would love to know what your take is on those shows
Hi Maggie, thank you for all your interesting videos. I would love to hear your review of It follows, one day!
Hot take: I actually like the Christopher Columbus episode of the Sopranos you referred to (hope I'm not confusing two episodes!!) I thought the way that Meadow and AJ questioned how we should view Christopher Columbus in light of his atrocities, combined with Tony and Carmella's refusal to see him as anything other than a hero was very interesting. I think it's even more relevant today with how people are reexamining historical figures.
Great review though, I also thought it should've been AT LEAST a mini-series. You should really get on twitch or something to have discussions live.
I agree. I thought it was one of the more thoughtful episodes.
The Christopher Columbus episode really didn't work because native American politics aren't much of a factor in New Jersey, at least since the 18th Century. It might have worked in New Mexico or Oklahoma.
The 1967 Newark riots, however, are key to the state's identity and what it became in the 1970s and 1980s. To ignore them would be ludicrous.
I grew up in a suburb of Newark and went to a racially mixed high school, FWIW, and when my high school football traveled to Verona (the town Tony Soprano's mother lives in) the parents and cheerleaders threw garbage and screamed racial epithets for the entire game. This was in the mid 1980s. I was one of the only 3 white players on the team and it made the bus ride back home rather interesting. Let's just say I'm happy we won and everybody was in a good mood going home.
People in Alabama may have the reputation of being racist but New Jersey Irish and Italian Americans will give them a run for their money any day.
@@stanleyrogouski Good points man. I thought the inclusion of the Newark riots in this film had the potential to be great and like you said, to really help set up the world Tony grew up in. At the end of the movie though I was left feeling like there was no point to it though.
The rant that Tony goes on about Gary Cooper at the end of Christopher episode is very applicable to today’s overly PC left wing group identity vs individual identity issues.
the whole point of that is to show how touchy older Italians were with feeling like their culture is fading away. To Tony and Carmella, denying columbus is to deny being Italian. Its a huge part of the show especially in the last season.
I feel like the exact opposite half the movie wasn't even about the characters from the sopranos show lol.
Yet it was meant as that and utterly failed
Love your analysis, hoping one day you will do an episode by episode review of the sopranos
First time viewer and commenter I'm glad I found you because I was struggling to find hardcore Sopranos CZcamsrs. Enjoying the video and respect your thoughts. But I think you might be going a little too rough on the movie. I loved Dickie Moltisanti in this movie and I think they succeeded and getting the point across with his character in this. I was actually getting attached to him and felt for him by the end the movie did it's job well with him I felt. The only place where I did feel it was lacking was making us understand the reason why he was killed. Other then that I thought the backdrop of the Newark riots was brilliant and appropriate to be shown in a movie format. I think they did the best they could trying to balance everyone out in the 2 hours but part of me is still curious how this could have been as a limited series. I do wish we had more time with Dickie. The bee hive hair moment in the car played really well in my screening last night everyone got a big laugh out of it. It was nice to be able to enjoy this as a movie with an audience inside of a theater.
Agreed about Sils actor. And what’s with the choice to make sil the same age as he would have been in the 90s when the show launched
It went so fast I wish they had like a mini series for this story. 2 hours isn’t enough. It had some funny moments in it too. Like how Tony told his mom when he was little that his dad got mad at him and because he passed gas while he was eating lol. Uncle Joey did good too. I was surprised. He actually has more Than one line.
They definitely should have had a mini series if they were going to do anything at all. I always thought that.
I just ran across your page for the first time and I must say, if you were hired as a story consultant for this movie…. With that in mind I’m wondering if you read scripts or offer any sort of script/story consultation. I’m on the third draft of a pilot (similar genre) and I believe your critique would be an invaluable addition to the story and character analysis aspect .
are you saying you wonder if she was hired as script consultant? For a writer your words are not well presented.
@@khamelgates1065 technically his sentence starts with your name so you're wrong there. 2nd you preposition a question but never ask. The entire 1st part of your comment didn't make sense. As a writer I'd think it likely you'd not make such a simple mistake
@@khamelgates1065 As someone who does aspire towards something and who does often second guess their dream, let me just say that your comment is beyond insufferable. I hope I never turn out to be as arrogant and full of myself as you. Your toxic gate keeping does more to hinder creative minds than it does to help them.
Here’s an excerpt from my post:
Why you would be compelled to comment on an inquiry that is in no way shape or form directed to you? Pretty odd but I appreciate your thoughts
If you truly truly aspire towards whatever it is that you aspire to why would you waste time commenting on a post between two people on CZcams? How will that help you acquire whatever it is you’re trying to obtain?
I found this review as part of a class assignment to look at reviews of the Many Saints and document what I watched, then to write about what I agree and disagree with and why. Then I loved her review and reached out as a potential customer. Everything I did was productive and in accordance with my goals. The fact that the sentence wasn’t formulated correctly or didn’t make sense to anyone shouldn’t matter. The only one it should matter to is the person I addressed. I would never waste my time responding to a message that wasn’t directed to me.
I just gave you my reasoning for doing what I did.
I would honestly like to know as a person who aspire to be greater, how was responding to a response that I made to someone else help you with your goals, dreams or aspirations?
Hey there. First time watcher of your channel and I think you’re awesome. Would you consider doing TV show reviews in the future?
I usually love the actor who played Silvio here. He was great in First Cow and Orange Is the New Black. But this was rather horrendous indeed.
Also, glad to see Nivola getting some bigger parts finally. It's hard living in Castor Troy's shadow.
The series definitely relied on longer spans of time to flesh out the arcs. You can't pack that atmosphere into 2 hours
I’m about to really jump in to your sopranos videos because I like your breakdown
Hey Maggie. I dont know if You've already reviewed this movies but if yoh haven't I would love to know your thoughts on Alan J Pakula's paranoia trilogy. Klute, The Parallax View and All The President's Men.
It’s so sad that David Chase who made such an unconventional show compromise into the “conditions” of today’s era just to make an “acceptable” movie? The Sopranos was unapologetic and raw in its depiction of opinions between character and the psychological, existential, social whatever issues it explores.
Beforehand, hearing there will be a movie really had me contemplating that it’s unnecessary. The series worked so exceptional because in its core it isn’t fully about the mob, but life itself. Separating them would mean that it’s drifting away from the very essence of it. Not saying that the mob part is weak, or the other strong. But it’s the very combination of these two that made it stand out so exceptional.
If you take other series that are about the one thing, Peaky Blinders for example. They take the one thing and just keep using plots to make it go forward because it’s so one sided theres no real exploration to make more things going on. A movie bout The Sopranos was doomed either way no matter good it would be, because the format can’t allow it. If it focused solely on Tony and his perception of things it could be better but still… Dickie is an indifferent character of his own, and the universe to have such a long movie about him and not in retrospect with Tony as the main character.
Political correctness and the forced entry of gays, black repressed characters or any minority is one the things that kinda makes me despise watching new movies. Just what is the point of shoving to our faces out of context? Fan service quotes being thrown here and there was so cringy. Silvios hair in the series isn’t supposed to be a wig, we know Van Zandt had surgery or something so it’s supposed to be “real”, making a mockery out of it again very cringy. Both his actor and Paulie’s were like SNL sketches, and even SNL did it better.
I hope this isn’t the start of a new movie series. Cause by definition it’s pointless. The series worked on an abstract level with the right amount of info given everytime. There’s no need for more exposition and cheap tricks like this movie. David Chase, im very disappointed in you.
I hear you loud and clear when it comes to the PC nature of today’s tv and movies. The forced diversity or oppression narratives are just so tired at this point as it’s all the same tropes over and over. This Sopranos prequel did not need a black power beat poetry session or to have the other forced racial narratives thrown in
@@billsimms2511 The Newark riots is one of the major plot elements, soooo.... why not explore how it affected their respective environment (NEWARK)????
I hate PC or Woke culture with a passion but That wasn't the problem with Harold as a character. There wasn't enough time to focus on him, He wasn't interesting, I didn't care about his life, He has no history with the show and hooking up with Dickies woman felt like a soap opera. If this was even a 6 episode limited series, The riots and the beef with Harold/the black gangs could've been interesting.
So showing the reality of the world we live in is PC culture?
@@shadywiskerz black power movements are irrelevant to the Sopranos
Michael gandolfini really did a incredible job as tony soprano in this movie
Him and Vera stole the show
No he didn’t . He can’t even speak
To me only Michael did. Vera to me seemed to be trying hard like everyone else. After watching the movie I now wish they have just kept the series alone
He sure likes to chew on his tongue
The only standouts for me are Odom Jr and Nivola (before he becomes a synopsis of Tony).
I honestly understand & relate to a few points you expressed but I have a slightly different perspective. I also am a huge Sopranos Fan. Aside from watching every season multiple times, I also took the “Sopranos Tour.” I was able to take a shot & the actual “Bada Bing.” First of all this was an impossible feat for the creators to accomplish. The expectations were unattainable, so I prepared myself to watch TMSON with no expectations. I have to say that I was pleased. I am grateful David Chase chose to give us anything having to do with the Sopranos series. I look forward to more hopefully. What would it have honestly taken for TMSON to have met all of our expectations???
I watched your 2001: A Space Odyssey 4K a week ago so this popped up on my recommendations but I couldn’t agree with you more on this. Subbed
She is totally 💯 right on everything
@@user-fm3xr9yz3i you’re wrong
@@user-fm3xr9yz3i what’s my wrong? You can’t even type in English kid
I thought Alessandro Nivola put in an exceptional performance though, best of the bunch.
I became aware of how overly swift (and by its nature, under nourishing) the film was becoming after the scene with the conversation between Tony and his mother about the sleeping medication. The depth of their love, hate relationship, the manipulative psychological/emotional battling so brilliantly depicted in the series all of a sudden felt condensed down to a near lip service scene that ultimately went nowhere (within the film).
Still, personally, as a fellow die hard fan of the series, I enjoyed it on the whole. I suppose it's a case of being able to take it or leave it for me, but I found myself gripped and involved throughout it. Some of your criticisms, though I have a tendency to agree with some of the more coruscating viewpoints (hmm, the young Silvio 🤔 Blech! 😜) I still feel you're being a touch harsh.
But I appreciate your passion on the subject 😉
I think this movie is a sort of pilot episode honestly. I’ll probably appreciate it later if more is done with potential sequels but I really do think this story would’ve benefited if it was a series but I did enjoy this movie for what it was and as bad I wanna think Silvio was in the movie I think he’s just the person he was before stepping up in status that he was in the show which probably happened in the 80s. I did appreciate his performance in the scene when he was talking to dickie about tony. If anything the movie should’ve focused on Dickie and Harold’s rivalry and how it would have affected the family and how it could’ve let up to his death which they did kinda but it was rushed. Not a terrible movie but it would’ve been a really good show if it was stretched out into 1 season of a prequel series.
Fantastic review, you’re insight is very in depth & I totally agree as a die hard Soprano’s fan myself
Very intelligent minded review, ripped right through the superficial things that many yt critic's focus on and rlly considered this disappointment of a film through the lense of a fan with a deep love and understanding for the original show
Glad your review feels very logically honest there. Even I thought most times it’s on par with Okay or disappoint and anger there.
You provide some of the most thoughtful and well-presented film criticism on CZcams. Thank you for all that you do.
This is The start.. my dear ttyl
I was looking around for a review by someone who has seen the show, and not only have you seen it, but you really get it too. I agree with everything you said. There are so many great plot threads that could have been explored so well in a much longer movie or a series. I wish the movie focused more on uncle junes beef with dickie. It could have been the main thing in the movie.
Agreed
You just got yourself a new subscriber, I think you described how I feel about this movie almost word by word lmao.
Saturday night I cancelled my plans to watch this movie I've been waiting for so long, boy do I regret it.. ruined my night.
I'm underwhelmed, disappointed, pissed
I finished the movie about two hours ago and first thing I did was coming to CZcams to watch some reviews, to see if I was being too picky (because the sopranos is my favorite show of all time, I'm a big mobster genre fan since I was 13 and also suffer from panic attacks lol) or someone else felt this way.
The Newark riots wasn't crowbarred into the story. The Sopranos had long established that many of it's characters resided in Newark before white flight. The riots and the racial tensions behind it helped spearhead white flight. What do you want them to do, ignore it?
No, we didn’t want them to ignore the race riots but just not devote 20 minutes to them. Show the crew watching tv and have it show the riots in there would have been sufficient
Exactly. Making a movie about Newark in the 1960s without mentioning the riots would have been like making a movie about the Titanic without mentioning the iceberg.
And Odom Jr. was the best thing in this movie. More riots meant more acting on par with the series.
I wanted to see a sopranos movie but got mafia 3 instead
Sil being older than Tony really messed with me. Tony and Sil were sneaking around peeking into Juniors Executive game in the show. In the movie Sil is already respected with Dicky. He wouldn't have to sneak around. This to me seems like a terrible misstep in the writing. Sil was rolling around with Tony, Ralph, Jackie Aprile. In the movie hes moving like a mad guy already
Yesss! That is exactly what I said. Way confusing!
What if that Silvio was actually Silvio’s dad?
@@joepeoples4052 I don't think it was 😂
Okay, so you have the BEST review so far. The most in depth and you seem to have the most understanding. You're a true fan and true fans are the only ones worthy of doing reviews in my opinion.
I just saw a review from a guy that didn't even watch the series! 🤦🏽♂️ And he rushed through season 1 months ago. Imagine! Lol.. He definitely wasn't qualified. Just did it for views and traffic for his channel. I loved your review. Very honest and I agree with most of what you said.
Although, I will take you up on the offer to do a trivial pursuit about the best show in the history of television! 😉
literally thought the same thing about TMSON being like the episode 'Christopher', awesome video
In terms of touching on themes about race, yeah I guess. But that episode was just boring.
I didn't find the race themes to be too distracting since it felt natural (time period and all) and I found the overall movie to be a blast. Not perfect, but a very enjoyable film regardless.
Watched it last night and sadly feel the same way. The story couldn’t stand on its own two feet and instead resorted to callbacks and cliches.
I thought if they reigned in the scope to taking place over a few weeks (maybe during the riots) instead of years there might have been more of chance of it having better structure and not feeling so rushed. There was potential for some interesting commentary on race and the feeling of a culture being replaced but that ended up being one of the most confounding elements of the film. The entire riots were basically used as a plot point to depose of a body.
the ending scene involving junior had me yell 'what the fuck??' in deep confusion. totally involuntary response that i never get with movies. what the fuck man.
Best review I've seen on CZcams so far! Awesome job!
Hey does anyone know why Tony said to Carmella after Chrissy died , that he thought carmela sounded relieved? When Tony calls Carmella from the hospital and tells her Chris is dead, toward the end of the call she says "oh my god tony, he's dead? Tony looks confused about the remark..... But I don't know how he got that she sounded relieved? I don't understand that...
To be fair, Silvio was a bit of a caricature of a mobster even on the show. His hairdo just looked ridiculous by the end of the last season and that constant frown just added a sense of comic relief, which I think even David Chase recognized at the time. The movie couldn't recapture the magic of the show, which I expected and that's ok. For what it is, it's not bad even though the fan service is a bit obnoxious.
Why was sil bald lmao. Isn’t he in his late 20s? Honestly I think this would’ve been better if it was a mini HBO series
Thank you so much because this is exactly how I feel.
Saw in theater last night. Movie much like another Sopranos episode. Wish it was longer, hopefully there is a sequel. Or series.
Michael G subtlety nailed Tony. Vera so fun. Dickie character just right. Will go see it again.
Stumbled on this channel at random and she is brilliant. Love her commentary and analysis, really her whole vibe and look is so genuine. Great stuff!
From the thumbnail alone I think Maggie did not enjoy
unfortunately this is one of those movies where as soon as it ended i forgot what it was about..there were a handful of good performances though, corey stoll especially, but they weren't given much to work with. i do kind of want to rewatch the sopranos now...
You nailed this review. I feel like to many people felt beholden to like this movie when it was kind of a disjointed mess. There were some amazing scenes, but felt like a fan edit of a bunch of episodes. I have no doubt your channel is going to gain a ton of traction just from this review. Awesome job
This movie felt like footage left out from Tony's fever dream when he had food poisoning.
This film was most certainly a cash grab. As you said, it makes no sense to make a movie about the sopranos universe. I sure David Chase knew this. A mini series makes way more sense, but that costs a lot more money and would have been limited to just an HBO release. It's disappointing that the creators of the most rule-breaking TV show ever, who spent the entirety of the show's run flipping off classic TV conventions and the audience's expectations, would put out such a fan-servicing film.
Sopranos I’ve watched all 6 seasons probably 20 times, not counting the CZcams shorts I flip through daily. Many saints I probably won’t watch a second time.
You mean 6 seasons
As a stand alone film or part of The Sopranos mytho the film was very unremarkable. I found it hard to get through.
@@danielrmz40 eh it’s debatable cause season 6 was split up with a gap before the final 9 episodes…. 6A and 6B
But yah it’s always been noted down as 6 seasons
@@danielrmz40 yea honestly because of the 21 episode season I just always called it 7 but i edited it so the purists can sleep lol
Since I heard about The Sopranos movie I wondered how they would take a thirteen hour season and turn it into a two hour movie. From your review it doesn't sound like they did it very well.
I'm curious how Billy Magnussen plays Paulie Walnuts, with all his tics and eccentricities.
Him and Sil were.most like old characters and Uncle June but Sil was a lil cartoonish
Subscribed very good review!
Here’s the thing, if you’re a sopranos fan, you’ll enjoy the movie. Just don’t go into it like Siskel and Ebert. Don’t expect the Godfather. Enjoy it for what it is, it’s not that deep. Enjoy that we get to spend a little more time in the Sopranos universe. I’m hoping that we get a sequel to MSON.
The problem is though the show is deep and well written and well made.
@@paulelroy6650 I totally agree. The show is a masterpiece. My point is that people should manage their expectations going in and enjoy the movie for what it is. Was the movie a bit unfocused, sure, but its never going to be like the show.
I hope they take in the critiques and improve on them for the sequel. But overall I really enjoyed going back to the Sopranos world.
As a sopranos fan -I was entertained - really impressed with the portrayal of Uncle Dickie - and seeing how Tony embodied him in the show
I couldn't agree more - I believe if this was a prequel mini-series - it could have dove deeper into the characters, explored more on how Dickie was impactful to Tony, also the father-son dynamics (loved Jon Berthal's portrayal), and we could have seen more of a build-up for a climactic scene with a series vs. a movie
At first I thought, "well here we go, another reviewer who knows nothing bashing the film" but from the intro I was hooked because you explained what the Sopranos was perfectly. Now I'm going to watch the rest. Well done sister!.
Nice review...and interesting hand gestures :) expressive
I actually enjoyed Many Saints more the second time I watched it. It needed to be a series...hopefully we get one. The universe is to large for a 2 hour movie but the cast was perfect.
No they weren’t
How could you get through this even the first time? I turned it off after the interracial cuckolding scene
@@Obs23456 lol what??? She fucked around behind his back and got drowned for it.
@@Firebird1968 made no sense nor did the black character and the drowning made no sense either, held under water for less than 10 seconds looked like they were both swimming, terrible movie I just skipped to the action scenes then the end, never could bother to watch again
Buddy this is internet. If you say you love a movie, keep it within yourselves. People are bound to say that they didn't like it.
One fan-service reference I liked was when Junior says "everything goes tru me", a play on the same line he said on the show when he was going through chemo.
and of course as well the iconic line too..
Former mafia captain Michael Franzese also thought the movie was bullshit.
Great review, so many good points made in such a short time.
I agree regarding Sylvio’s character but I place the blame on chase and the director. They gave this guy the impression maybe that he nailed it or something. They were apparently happy with him and this poor guy is getting killed. He needed to dial it back some but I don’t blame the actor. Someone needed to tell him imo
right!
I was lost during the film. Is Silvio also the balding guy in the beginning of the film? does he start wearing a wig?
@@seth1581
Yup
This was really bad. Unrealistic, very sanitized. The usual one sided portrayals to make one group of people look bad and the other look like saints.
Because The Sopranos was so realistic
@@lukess.s Completely missed my point.
I'm lookin' around for a review that can at least say what was good about it, but overall... a lot of executives are gonna be making a lot of decisions based on public feedback, and that sucks for the cast and crew involved.
Fantastic review it's obvious you're a big fan of the show as you explain so eloquently how most of us felt. how frankly underwhelming and unneeded the movie was, if you're gonna do it, it damn well better be worthwhile. Subbed and I'll definitely have a look at some of your other reviews too :)