Inside Russia’s Woolly Mammoth Tusk Trade

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  • čas přidán 29. 09. 2021
  • Climate change is causing Siberia’s permafrost to thaw. It’s a growing environmental problem, emitting greenhouse gases, damaging buildings and creating vast craters in the landscape. But it's also revealing an ancient treasure - the tusks of woolly mammoths.
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  • @VICENews
    @VICENews  Před rokem +12

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    • @1_1__1_1
      @1_1__1_1 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Бахмут наш

    • @Thunder_warrior
      @Thunder_warrior Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@1_1__1_1залупу на воротник

  • @therealworld7351
    @therealworld7351 Před 2 lety +1144

    The title of this video feels like it comes from a parallel universe where woolly mammoths never went extinct

    • @Masamoone
      @Masamoone Před 2 lety +15

      Dude you don't even fking know what's buried in your garden.

    • @1timerod
      @1timerod Před 2 lety +1

      Facts

    • @TheCurrykiev
      @TheCurrykiev Před 2 lety +15

      Isn't it crazy that we can't shoot elephants for tusks (which I completely agree with!) but these really rare tusks of an extinct animal, meaning there is a small, finite amount, are allowed to be dug up and carved for someone to hang in their house?
      I'm genuinely surprised this is a thing.

    • @coltendixon2416
      @coltendixon2416 Před 2 lety

      Puff puff pass

    • @randallmccrea8245
      @randallmccrea8245 Před 2 lety

      I was just thinking the same thing lol

  • @HylianEvil
    @HylianEvil Před 2 lety +410

    Humans are weird as hell.

  • @Charlie-502
    @Charlie-502 Před 2 lety +346

    "It's nothing serious, just a fracture." A true Russian

    • @1timerod
      @1timerod Před 2 lety +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @sxanep
      @sxanep Před 2 lety +21

      Right, for Russians "serious injury" usually means when you cannot fully recover.

    • @SaddamHussain-we9ec
      @SaddamHussain-we9ec Před 2 lety +1

      I knew I would definitely find this comment here in comment section.

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r Před rokem

      He did warn everyone, nobody will win this war

    • @perpetual_happiness
      @perpetual_happiness Před 2 měsíci

      actually he didn't say "just fracture" He said one word "fracture"

  • @kG-rv1ck
    @kG-rv1ck Před 2 lety +752

    Seeing fossils being blasted and destroyed like that is so sad, we’re still researching and finding so much and now it’s being just being washed away, who knows what secrets could have been uncovered.

    • @codymorgan9512
      @codymorgan9512 Před 2 lety +65

      Ehh it’s just WM Tusks.. I mean who else is gonna dig into them tunnels and get em???? NOBODY. 😂 I mean it’s sad cuz it’s history, but everybody’s gotta make a living… people have families.. they just do what’s best for them and their family sometimes even if they don’t want to 😔

    • @codymorgan9512
      @codymorgan9512 Před 2 lety +41

      And also I mean it’s saying some of these guys literally are donating some of these things for science…. FREE… ZERO DOLLASSSS!

    • @lewisharold
      @lewisharold Před 2 lety +44

      @@codymorgan9512 they should be donating 100% of the things they throw away.

    • @lennytheburger
      @lennytheburger Před 2 lety +6

      Fossils arent blasted away, fossils remain, only tye ground does

    • @zuldo8577
      @zuldo8577 Před 2 lety +31

      True but no-one cares enough to fund any scientists to go there. So if the hunters weren't there it would just all be undiscovered. Capitalism :)

  • @Romir0s
    @Romir0s Před 2 lety +348

    Your guy has a pretty great Russian pronunciation. You should be proud of him.

    • @10maliyev
      @10maliyev Před 2 lety +9

      Так грамотно все и чётко, он вообще молодец

    • @yaroslavmachardy9062
      @yaroslavmachardy9062 Před 2 lety +7

      Omg he is so much better than dumb ass Simon 🥰

    • @Shy_guy9795
      @Shy_guy9795 Před 2 lety +11

      Вообще в жизни не ожидал что что то подобное про мой родной город покажут на этом канале 😳😳😳

    • @afromanftw
      @afromanftw Před 2 lety +7

      simon is a fucking legend, how dare you

    • @jacobcuntington2540
      @jacobcuntington2540 Před 2 lety +2

      Blyat

  • @davidletasi3322
    @davidletasi3322 Před 2 lety +257

    I find the various comments quite interesting. Working in this field of science over the last 3 decades I find that most viewpoints were some what biased and misinformed. We know that mammoth tusks have been found for over three centuries by the hundreds of thousands. There is no rarity or lack of supply for their procurement commercially or for scientific research. Many individual collectors will pay in the thousands of dollars for collection cabnet examples. The Chinese are driving prices up dramatically for their use in carved ivory trade in jewelry and artistic decorative forms. This fossil trade relieves the demand for the living species ivory trade and will help reduce the slaughter that unfortunately is still driven by the demand for local Bush meat in Africa. It's counter productive to restrict active collecting of these specimens and certainly does not endanger the livelihood of an extinct species or their living relatives. Clearly many universities and scientific research organizations are studying mammoth tusks and frozen carcasses for DNA and pathology studies like those in Russia, Japan, Germany and the USA. The University of Michigan's program under their fine world class paleontology department is a leader in mammoth tusk research. The greatest threat imposed by the passionate and commercially oriented collectors is how they are changing the environment by using high pressure water dredging on the Siberian topography. Also many other important vertebrate remains are frequently overlooked by these teams as many do not have qualified professional paleontologists to scrutinize what being discarded. There are many vertebrate taxa that are equally if not more important that may be discovered in these sediments.
    Also it clear that even if it were possible to save every scrap of bone from these collection areas they would easily fill every major museum in the world. Unfortunately these institutions are cash strapped and undertaking such a challenge would be economically disastrous. There is just too little funding. So this science is between a rock and a hard place financially. At best it would be reasonable to set up a partnership with the commercial collectors and the scientific community. This commercial fossil industry is certainly far from perfect but until the general public realizes that some research on this material is better than the alternative, leaving vertebrate fossil to disintegrate in the open elements and ignore them as a scientific resource completely. It's better to reach a goal for creating a working relationship with these companies and salvage what is reasonable and possible economically. Many commercial fossil collecting companies have striven to partner with various professionals in this science. I really enjoyed the video and hope more like it are offered to the public..

    • @ZechsMerquise73
      @ZechsMerquise73 Před 2 lety +8

      Exactly. I know they're strapped for resources too, but the scientists should be out there documenting everything rather than trying to get them shut down.

    • @davidletasi3322
      @davidletasi3322 Před 2 lety +14

      @@ZechsMerquise73 unfortunately a large number of paleontologists have aligned with politicians attempting to out law public fossil collecting altogether even to the point of relinquishing private property ownership. The UK has a treasure act in place where a collector of fossils and artifacts must be turned into their district public magistrate to review the importance of their find and a professional is assigned to determine its scientific value. If this is a common discovery of the kind already in abundance in the British Museum collection they are released to the collector and then must split the find fairly with the land owner. Of those specimens that are of national importance then the state is entitled to procure it but must equally pay the collector and land owner the fair market value of the find. The UK has a public fund under their government to pay such endowments. I believe more countries should adopt this strategy to save historical and prehistory resources. Everyone would win and the professional community would be able to save far more important specimens. In this way it would allow the general public the ability to encounter rare specimens in the field rather than allow these resources to weather away in the field.

    • @elizaramosroble1188
      @elizaramosroble1188 Před 2 lety

      Pm

    • @miss.yesgoodplease1643
      @miss.yesgoodplease1643 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ZechsMerquise73 I feel these american mammoth Ivory tusks represent lodges of settlement of ancestors. Bones Hided and tusks made furniture and houses sleds housing cultural necessity and like Kennewick Man should be for the tribe to preserve and document locations. It's everywhere here in Columbia basin in many colors and various stages.

    • @davidletasi3322
      @davidletasi3322 Před 2 lety +3

      @@miss.yesgoodplease1643 at this time there is no substantial or even the slightest residual evidence of these tusks being used as ornamental objects during the end of their existance in North America. We know that tusks are represent as intrinsic building materials on circular house structures in Russia. Some tusks in Europe have produced carvings at a few sites. We have some evidence of Mammoth hunting and Mastodon remains that were butchered here in America. At this time only human remains are repatriated to tribal members in North America. I have been actively working in that program for many years. At this time the archaeological community has never requested a single mammoth tusk to be repatriated to any indigenous tribe. If a carved mammoth tusk were to be interred with Native American burial remains that could be a valid repatriation for consideration. Otherwise its just an assumption that these tusks would all be considered as archaeological artifacts. Most are simply the remains of mammoth that died from natural causes and few could be proven to be associated with human intervention.

  • @EmilSosnin
    @EmilSosnin Před 2 lety +376

    What I want to know is how is this guy not showing any suffering from mosquitoes.

  • @pdc4930
    @pdc4930 Před 2 lety +467

    The demand of living elephants ivory just isn't enough, now they have to dig up the ivory from long dead elephants.

    • @jamesmurphy9105
      @jamesmurphy9105 Před 2 lety +33

      It makes excellent piano keys

    • @rihasanatrofolo2472
      @rihasanatrofolo2472 Před 2 lety +19

      @@jamesmurphy9105 tf?

    • @MayorMcheese12
      @MayorMcheese12 Před 2 lety +53

      I mean atleast the animal is already dead and extinct not like we can save it or bring it back. It'd just be sitting in a fuckikg museum collecting dust anyways

    • @sethnaugle984
      @sethnaugle984 Před 2 lety +15

      @@MayorMcheese12 I think some of these tusks have enough DNA in them for scientists to clone them.

    • @polkunus
      @polkunus Před 2 lety +13

      So what? It doesn’t cost much to get these, they’re already dead. Its ecologically pretty sound

  • @pakalolobudz
    @pakalolobudz Před rokem +32

    Yes it is a shame that so much artifacts are being lost. There must be a way to allow the local people to benifit from the finds while preserving the relics of value.

    • @wirelessone2986
      @wirelessone2986 Před 4 měsíci +2

      It says they leave the bison horns,Skulls,Sabre cat teeth,Have bear Claws and skulls...I want a trip out there for the stuff they don't want!!

  • @YourMom-vl2sp
    @YourMom-vl2sp Před 2 lety +57

    I'm waiting for the Mammoth clone

    • @kereyc5751
      @kereyc5751 Před 2 lety +1

      Me too

    • @DaveVee23
      @DaveVee23 Před 2 lety +1

      2027

    • @TehMorbidAtheist
      @TehMorbidAtheist Před 2 lety +2

      Why?
      What are you going to with it?

    • @inf0tr8r
      @inf0tr8r Před 2 lety +3

      watch sesame street

    • @williamwallace4080
      @williamwallace4080 Před 2 lety

      @@TehMorbidAtheist would be cool to see animals you've only seen in movies/documentaries come to life. Maybe it would help with preventing other aninals from going extinct. People might realise how beautiful nature is.

  • @fairdose
    @fairdose Před 2 lety +142

    Human greed and depravity never ceases to amaze me.

    • @AESETC
      @AESETC Před 2 lety +19

      Get over yourself Joy, why would depravity and greed amaze anyone? Poor choices of words, and these activities are the very least of the greed and depravity there is. What is the most significant to me is that the permafrost in Siberia is melting quickly, more than anything else.

    • @reggie8370
      @reggie8370 Před 2 lety +7

      Poor people doing the rich peoples dirty bidding. They’re in a situation where these illegal activities are worth the risk

    • @reggie8370
      @reggie8370 Před 2 lety +6

      @@AESETC get over yourself kid. Your smug arrogance and the confidence to which you say these things are what most surprise me

    • @justdoingitjim7095
      @justdoingitjim7095 Před 2 lety +5

      Joy, you're not only one of those people who think if someone makes a profit then they're "greedy" you are now claiming that if poor people put themselves in danger, go into remote regions far from their families and work very hard every day to find something they can sell to feed those families, you call them "greedy" too! Your description of "greed and depravity" probably applies to everyone who has a normal job too! Not everyone wants to live off welfare like you Joy!

    • @respectmaauthoritah3298
      @respectmaauthoritah3298 Před 2 lety +4

      @@reggie8370 get on yourself old man. What didn’t you get? Siberia is warming up and green house gases are causing global warming.

  • @0pticG4mer
    @0pticG4mer Před 2 lety +146

    if its destructive to the earth, china always has a hand in it😂

    • @twonumber22
      @twonumber22 Před 2 lety +17

      Every major power, of course.

    • @rdizzleoriginal
      @rdizzleoriginal Před 2 lety +27

      @@twonumber22 mostly china

    • @twonumber22
      @twonumber22 Před 2 lety +14

      @@rdizzleoriginal No, not really. They're up there, but not even close to you know who.

    • @rdizzleoriginal
      @rdizzleoriginal Před 2 lety +1

      @@twonumber22 probably India then

    • @twonumber22
      @twonumber22 Před 2 lety +9

      @@rdizzleoriginal What is cognitive dissonance?

  • @LLGuerra
    @LLGuerra Před 2 lety +169

    I'm completely speechless on what's going on here. This raw footage of what this journalist is showing, is yet so important but people aren't aware of...

    • @doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132
      @doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 Před 2 lety +11

      There is literally nothing wrong with this. These people have to make a living. These animals are long dead. And you dont need to bring these animals back because they went extinct for a reason. Not to mention the oxygen levels are different now than the ice age.

    • @ZechsMerquise73
      @ZechsMerquise73 Před 2 lety +1

      @@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 You can still edit your comment if you'd like to throw in some more random things the OP didn't mention.

    • @doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132
      @doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ZechsMerquise73 is that sarcasm or?….

    • @corpchannel2523
      @corpchannel2523 Před 2 lety

      Tusk are really expensive

    • @williamrobinson4265
      @williamrobinson4265 Před 2 lety +2

      wait tils this person finds out what else is going on in the world

  • @MsDboyy
    @MsDboyy Před 2 lety +42

    The guy with the mosquito net mask over his face is looking at the reporter from Vice like 🤷‍♂️ what were you thinking ?

  • @cyborgar15
    @cyborgar15 Před 2 lety +141

    Well Mammoths will become extinct again from poaching if they are ever brought back...

    • @boarbot7829
      @boarbot7829 Před 2 lety +8

      Well they’d likely start in a highly guarded reserve. And also, they maybe wouldn’t.

    • @ReclusiveEagle
      @ReclusiveEagle Před 2 lety +3

      I think you are presuming the first 1000 Mammoths will be released to the wild and not studied extensively in research facilities and limited to private reserves. I think you are also presuming they will be just let loose in the wild to live randomly anywhere. I think you are also presuming it takes 50 years for Mammoths to have babies. Meanwhile Elephant populations in South Africa are ballooning to proportions so out of control, 7523 square mile reserves are being threatened by total deforestation... because of the Elephants... Mammoth populations can double from 20,000 to 40,000 in less than 10 years with care.

    • @hsvr
      @hsvr Před 2 lety +1

      They cannot bring woolly mammoths back

    • @valdemariv394
      @valdemariv394 Před 2 lety +3

      In Russia yes, in Canada they will be fine.

    • @harlanbandy4526
      @harlanbandy4526 Před 2 lety +1

      @@hsvr sure they can, all they need is the right genetic sample.

  • @dewmontain123
    @dewmontain123 Před 2 lety +137

    I cant believe the vice guy went inside that tunnel Haha that thing is ready to collapse. Thats how they clean out the huge freezers in processing plants.. The cameraman well he always survives

    • @souhung69
      @souhung69 Před 2 lety +5

      Except for the camera guy working on the rear end of elons rocket tests, he gets blown up over and over

    • @nicholasniva5192
      @nicholasniva5192 Před 2 lety +2

      The guy speaks Russian fluently...he's gotta be a little crazy

    • @midwestmike613
      @midwestmike613 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah I definitely wouldn't have went in there I hate mosquitoes nevermind the fact it looked like it could collapse at any moment 😆 🤣

    • @adriancantu2026
      @adriancantu2026 Před 2 lety

      @@souhung69 ?

  • @andriadefilippi4512
    @andriadefilippi4512 Před 2 lety +143

    this, to me, is a good enough reason not to "bring back" the wooly mammoth; they would just be poached into extinction.

    • @trent5098
      @trent5098 Před 2 lety +20

      Not if we eat them, best way to save an animal from extinction is to make it a widespread part of the diet.

    • @dewmontain123
      @dewmontain123 Před 2 lety +5

      Then bring em back, poach em,bring em back, poach so on and so forth. So much that everybody can own a mammoth 🦣

    • @andriadefilippi4512
      @andriadefilippi4512 Před 2 lety +17

      @@trent5098 that's just perpetuating a cycle of pain for an animal that is probably thanking its lucky stars is no longer on earth with humans at the top of the food chain.

    • @needmoreramsay
      @needmoreramsay Před 2 lety +5

      We can't actually bring complex beings back regardless of what they claim. Especially from long-dead creatures that have badly decomposed. The only "cloning" that we are actually capable of is reproduction of actual cells. For example, you can only grow more hair from a hair sample. You can't use hair DNA to grow skin cells or organs. Anyone telling you otherwise is lying.

    • @andriadefilippi4512
      @andriadefilippi4512 Před 2 lety +2

      @@needmoreramsay i had no idea. i'm curious where you found this info. i'd like to read up on it so i can be better informed!

  • @pandugeet
    @pandugeet Před 2 lety +42

    Depressing to see

    • @originalketchup7498
      @originalketchup7498 Před 2 lety +1

      Literally humans will do anything... this is inventingly abhorrent.... wow

    • @robertstank
      @robertstank Před 2 lety +4

      They gotta make money to survive and this makes more money so i dont blame them but its sad none the less.

    • @AESETC
      @AESETC Před 2 lety +3

      Or an opportunity, depends how your perception of the world and reality.

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium Před 2 lety

      @@AESETC Imagine reviving the population, interbreeding them with elephants, or even farming/herding/domesticating some for a reliable source of ivory.

    • @nudetaynehatwobble
      @nudetaynehatwobble Před 2 lety +1

      Then turn it off

  • @sirkl4272
    @sirkl4272 Před 2 lety +105

    Let's face it, Vice is not what it used to be, but God damn if this wasn't easily one of the best, unique, and just cool stories they've done in my recent memory. Good work.

    • @therealforeignwolf
      @therealforeignwolf Před 2 lety +6

      The Afghanistan coverage from VICE is SO GOOD!!! This one is so sub par. And the commentator doesn't have a good voice for commentating

    • @skylormello7552
      @skylormello7552 Před 2 lety +1

      I thought that until I looked up some other videos all this was a big deal 6-7 years ago. Soo hella behind

    • @ack6668
      @ack6668 Před 2 lety

      @@therealforeignwolf lol no

  • @KookusMaximus
    @KookusMaximus Před 2 lety +22

    This mob mentality we are living through is so sad in so many ways. Humanity could be doing so much more.

  • @brittanymarriott6890
    @brittanymarriott6890 Před 2 lety +104

    Original, concerning and splendidly filmed. Whoa those tusks!

    • @geoffreyguthe6623
      @geoffreyguthe6623 Před 2 lety

      Agreed. The reporter/Vice did a great job balancing context with letting the hunters/the cave show this fascinating trade I never knew about.

    • @milolouis
      @milolouis Před 2 lety

      Class soundbite but really. Wow the shots are incredible. I can't tell if I'm being misled by TopGear style Cinematography or if I am watching literally frozen life/DNA of something so cool combined with a .... I can't finish my point I'm too stoned. Every shot is fucking brilliant looking no? This is just bloody amazing in every way. The steam, close ups, crane shots?/Drones. Who paid for this it's beautiful and complicated.

  • @NewLeaf7
    @NewLeaf7 Před 2 lety +27

    Imagine bringing Electric Mosquito Swatter to there... satisfaction!

    • @NoradNoxtus
      @NoradNoxtus Před 2 lety +6

      Genocide

    • @countbinfaceglobalpresiden7926
      @countbinfaceglobalpresiden7926 Před 2 lety +1

      @@NoradNoxtus AKA Eren Jaegar o'clock

    • @rockyjohnson9243
      @rockyjohnson9243 Před 2 lety +2

      lol your arms would fall off and they would keep on coming lol

    • @rockyjohnson9243
      @rockyjohnson9243 Před 2 lety

      @Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE which has a huge impact on fish and anything that eats them. The Russians are not using flood pouds and filtration before it heads back into the river

  • @ShottaKenya
    @ShottaKenya Před 2 lety +3

    The way he talks about the first discovery and how they knew it was different because “it wasn’t like a Sabre’s” makes me want to know about the Sabre-toothed trade now…

  • @Kaiserland111
    @Kaiserland111 Před 2 lety +98

    Interesting to see that the scientists and mammoth hunters are working together on this issue. It of course should be regulated to mitigate environmental damage, but I understand why people are driven to this kind of work - there aren't many good opportunities in many parts of Russia to make a good living. I only hope that going forward there can be some sort of agreement whereby science can be advanced, the past can be preserved, and mammoth hunters can still make a living.

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r Před rokem

      There you are

    • @bobhope8404
      @bobhope8404 Před rokem +2

      The past is the past. Let it go. Trust in god. This world was never meant to last forever.

    • @kachala
      @kachala Před rokem +2

      5500$ in two month is good money even for Europe

    • @normhannawell3029
      @normhannawell3029 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@bobhope8404Amen 🙂

    • @cezar211091
      @cezar211091 Před měsícem

      ​@@bobhope8404 humanity has trusted god for ages, still hasn't helped one bit.

  • @LordFurquan
    @LordFurquan Před 2 lety +49

    This was so interesting to watch and learn about, and the footage was so good. Something I had never even thought about before.

  • @johnpaulpampolina6099
    @johnpaulpampolina6099 Před 2 lety +7

    this is sad and amazing at the same time

  • @backto-il9ne
    @backto-il9ne Před 2 lety +1

    I've followed Alec on social media forever. Great to finally see him in action and hear his voice.

  • @dm3on
    @dm3on Před 2 lety +69

    all I could think of disease, unknown disease.

    • @TheSlizzer348
      @TheSlizzer348 Před 2 lety +1

      Get yourself some anthrax poisoning treatment with that $5000

    • @cyborgar15
      @cyborgar15 Před 2 lety +5

      Hurry, U need another Vax stat!!

    • @hidad5601
      @hidad5601 Před 2 lety

      Don't worry they were wearing masks for their safety and the safety of the fatty on a mobility scooter in Walmart

  • @anwitmondal6417
    @anwitmondal6417 Před 2 lety +8

    If this were in America the title would have been " How woolly mammoth tusks are supporting the local economy by creating jobs "

  • @stateyourthesis
    @stateyourthesis Před 2 lety +101

    They are brave going out there digging up all this old diseases....

    • @Rowan.CoD.M
      @Rowan.CoD.M Před 2 lety +9

      What old disease's? Are they really though? Bacteria definitely...

    • @agahajak
      @agahajak Před 2 lety +42

      COVID 62 BCE, LETS GOOOOOO

    • @coltonendicott3714
      @coltonendicott3714 Před 2 lety +17

      @@Rowan.CoD.M Yeah man a lot of bacteria cause disease except some select ones. And could probably be dormant in the permafrost. Anyone's guess there's billions of types we don't know of.

    • @samjingling8641
      @samjingling8641 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Rowan.CoD.M smallpox my man, we aren't vaccinated against smallpox. But it is supposed to lie in where people who died of it were buried.

    • @lmilly1359
      @lmilly1359 Před 2 lety

      If this was the case we would’ve have problems when we first found dinosaur bones

  • @Noisykiller12
    @Noisykiller12 Před 2 lety +1

    5:36 That's an amazingly preserved mammoth head why isn't this in a museum?

  • @than217
    @than217 Před 2 lety +7

    It is fascinating to see the large megafauna uncovered by this tundra thaw but just imagine what's being lost. For Example: there's pollen in every inch of soil, we can tell what plants were thriving in which layers, and compare that to the dates of different events and establish major ecological events of the past relating to forest fires or undersea currents changing. CURRENTLY we have that technology, but the context is all lost if the ground is partially ice and the ice melts ruining the layers/seriation. So we're losing untold mass amounts of ancient data from the thawing and we're losing "whatever" the future could have created new technology to study, the stuff we can't conceive of finding in archaeology yet is also being lost.

  • @thomascraig6201
    @thomascraig6201 Před 2 lety +3

    Really interesting reporting. Vice did a good job on this one.

    • @fossilgamersbirds8641
      @fossilgamersbirds8641 Před 2 lety +1

      The demand of living elephants ivory just isn't enough, now they have to dig up the ivory from long dead elephants.

    • @thomascraig6201
      @thomascraig6201 Před 2 lety

      @@fossilgamersbirds8641 i believe they were digging up wooly mammoths, not elephants. at least the ivory gets some use.

  • @hurleycapetown8420
    @hurleycapetown8420 Před 2 lety +5

    As a South African I am actually so happy they are doing this because maybe it will save our living Elephants or Rhinos from disgusting poachers who kill unbelievably beautiful animals for their tusks/horns.This market while destructive is not killing anything and possibly even saving animal lives for now.

    • @rockyjohnson9243
      @rockyjohnson9243 Před 2 lety

      Sorry Humans are trash and they will not stop till you hunt them like the animals they are after.

  • @milolouis
    @milolouis Před 2 lety

    The Cinematography on this is insane I was thinking for a youtube channel but does 7M subs equal million dollar budgets? Just so brilliant, would love to see an hour of how this was organised and filmed and what gear. B E A utiful!

  • @Mkultra746
    @Mkultra746 Před 2 lety +2

    Damn. Vice out here doing the most. Wish my FBI did the same for me. :( very informative btw. Keep up this hard work.. people enjoy it.

  • @midwestmike613
    @midwestmike613 Před 2 lety +69

    This is actually really amazing and tbh I've seen Shark and Megalodon Teeth hunted for in a similar manner in Florida. I mean they take the risk to locate these amazing finds that would never be seen if not for them so I guess I don't see an issue with it. Many rare items are located this way all over the world. Minus the personal risk they take these items would just be swallowed up by the earth if not for their perilous job. But I agree the so called scraps they throw away should all be donated to science, universities, and museums none of this should be wasted that is sad nobody can find a few dimes to fund this.

    • @redhammer5783
      @redhammer5783 Před 2 lety

      Its to much effort probly to pack it up and haul it out of the deep bush, expecially if they aint making a buck off it

    • @marimo66666
      @marimo66666 Před 2 lety +1

      bro, you know there no way we going to trap all that water back in the permafrost state from before right? lol

    • @redhammer5783
      @redhammer5783 Před 2 lety +1

      @@marimo66666 whos talking about the water lol?

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r Před rokem

      There you are. Lol

  • @human_bot_
    @human_bot_ Před 2 lety +28

    I gotta give it up to vice on this one. Not only was this a top notch and interesting story, but you managed to bring up climate change without getting political or obsessing over it. Thank you for a real journalistic story

  • @hardayaldawra1458
    @hardayaldawra1458 Před 2 lety

    Wonderful presentation, rich knowledge

  • @Marcel-kn2mh
    @Marcel-kn2mh Před rokem

    This overview is well done: slow, clear, scientific and interesting ....

  • @randymagnum8721
    @randymagnum8721 Před 2 lety +3

    The animals were frozen during one catastrophic temperature plummeting event. You won't convince me that the animals died and laid there to freeze without being scavenged. The permafrost was never meant to be as it was only formed during the aftermath of a super volcano mega eruption. It created a wintertime that lasted years.

  • @JV-ux1rq
    @JV-ux1rq Před 2 lety +8

    "CHINAH" *trumps voice*

  • @hardayaldawra1458
    @hardayaldawra1458 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video. Rich knowledge

  • @WSFM_Rex
    @WSFM_Rex Před 2 lety

    This was a good one vice

  • @kentershackle1329
    @kentershackle1329 Před 2 lety +5

    At least its not gonna lost forever.

  • @notyou1877
    @notyou1877 Před 2 lety +10

    The mammoths died all at once in a massive blast that killed everything. Possibly by our Suns micro nova. We're due for another one soon.

  • @skitzochik
    @skitzochik Před 2 lety +1

    its hard to imagine an elephant or a wooly mammoth roaming the frozen expanse of siberia...so crazy

  • @northernstar4811
    @northernstar4811 Před 2 lety +2

    I remember reading that some Siberian hunters found mammoth remains in the 19th century the frozen meat was fresh looking & the hunters gave it to their dogs to eat.

  • @morkovija
    @morkovija Před 2 lety +5

    Very well done piece, thanks Vice!

    • @mohann2289
      @mohann2289 Před 3 měsíci

      Definitely you are blessed God Bless You

  • @five1five06
    @five1five06 Před 2 lety +14

    Imagine they find a caveman frozen in time

    • @Sasskin
      @Sasskin Před 2 lety +4

      Chinese would make a talisman from it

  • @orion6372
    @orion6372 Před rokem

    That mammoth skull with the fur still on it 🤩

  • @timothybalentine3550
    @timothybalentine3550 Před 2 lety +1

    At the end of the day most of you guys just want to feed your families I like the fact that all this cool stuff is being brought to life so to speak

  • @erok268
    @erok268 Před 2 lety +4

    The single layer deposition suggests a bloat and float situation. Does anyone know if a carbon date has ever been done?

    • @JJ-bh6sk
      @JJ-bh6sk Před 2 lety +6

      Looking at their operation, i don't think so

    • @johnnyt8286
      @johnnyt8286 Před 2 lety +2

      what's bloat and float Eric /?

    • @dewmontain123
      @dewmontain123 Před 2 lety +1

      What does that suggest???

    • @seangibbons2254
      @seangibbons2254 Před 2 lety +1

      Bloat and float? Like methane release? Isn't there rumours of old disease bacteria thawing and being released?

    • @erok268
      @erok268 Před 2 lety

      Like they died in a fluvial or glaciofluvial (idk how its spelt) event. Like a flood, the animals settled in the same sediment layer in a low pressure zone, thus why the guy is finding them in same layer. So aleast for that specific area it could have been a rapid deglaciation event in the area. Volcanic activity or space debris or something like lake Missoula floods could have basically drowned and swept up a bunch of animals. So bloat and float is a bad way to put it. It should be float then bloat? Or swept then sink then stink? Lol. Disclaimer I know nothing, just stoned watching a video hah.
      P.s. curious about date due to younger dryas impact hypothesis stuff. Like sure you'll find well preserved remains throughout permafrost. But there could be concentrations of animal corpse deposition and if there's enough energy ot could erode permafrost layers with other animals already dead in those layers and redeposit with the freshly dead. In those areas where there is many skeletons of multiple species in 1 sediment layer

  • @Flemo2140
    @Flemo2140 Před 2 lety +6

    The scientists should go along with them on their digs and just take the "offcuts". The miners need to make money so might as well work with them. Crazy that the bones of these other "worthless" animals are just getting washed away into the river

    • @22espec
      @22espec Před 2 lety

      I think that when the frontiers are open I will go there to get those things, is not illegal in my country to sell those kind of bones and I think I can get a good price for them.

  • @poopiepantsmcgee456
    @poopiepantsmcgee456 Před 2 lety +1

    So much research should be done in locations like this. Right?

  • @slatplusmobb7118
    @slatplusmobb7118 Před 2 lety

    That boy Erel snapped with that Nike cap 💯💯💯💯💯💯❗❗❗❗

  • @cte4dota
    @cte4dota Před 2 lety +4

    At least they don't kill live elephants just for tusks...

    • @ChristianDoretti
      @ChristianDoretti Před 2 lety

      Wait until they revive an old virus

    • @cte4dota
      @cte4dota Před 2 lety

      @@ChristianDoretti I can bet they already have in somewhere in the Lab weaponize and ready to use.

  • @cameronsavoie768
    @cameronsavoie768 Před 2 lety +37

    This is horrible.
    Maybe the best most important specimens ever found. Are in the illegal trade. Never to be seen by public eyes. Horrible

    • @valon18
      @valon18 Před 2 lety +2

      Lost forver in early 2020s

    • @quadphonics
      @quadphonics Před 2 lety

      I agree, I hope ALL ae killed in cave in.

    • @DOMINIK99013
      @DOMINIK99013 Před 2 lety +1

      There are a lot of mammoth skeletons, even in museums. Maybe more when they find something else interesting, like a lion cave

  • @george_kimani
    @george_kimani Před 2 lety

    I just love vice

  • @michaelblankenship7278

    On the coast here we find tusks all the time. Especially after a storm.

  • @febriorio600
    @febriorio600 Před 2 lety +16

    STALKER in real life, instead hunting relics it hunts ancient tusk

  • @Hammy1TV
    @Hammy1TV Před 2 lety +10

    That's not hunting. This is how gold was recovered in the California Sierra Nevada Mountains in the 1800's. It's called "hydraulic mining"

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq Před 2 lety +1

    I hope many of the mammoth 🦣 tusks and other prehistoric bones and fossils manage to get to museums.

  • @CreativeC13
    @CreativeC13 Před 2 lety

    Fascinating!

  • @hoover133
    @hoover133 Před 2 lety +6

    I understand the wrongs in all this but those tusk Ivories are gorgeous. Amazing skill by those craftsmen

    • @kG-rv1ck
      @kG-rv1ck Před 2 lety

      It’s like those old fashion hats with hummingbird feathers, so pretty but wrong 😂😭

    • @IDONTLIKETHATSHIT
      @IDONTLIKETHATSHIT Před 2 lety +1

      I guess your thoughts on SLAVERY is similar.

  • @BigShotShin
    @BigShotShin Před 2 lety +29

    Is anyone going to talk about how fucked this is, just the fact that their digging through already melting ice, the tunnels they dig are exposing the bottom part of the ice to the outside Heat and now it’ll not only melt from the outside now but from the inside too, you just gotta love the domino effects, oh us humans.

    • @Noisykiller12
      @Noisykiller12 Před 2 lety +3

      and even worse they aren't the ones that's going to be the most affected

    • @sladjanab
      @sladjanab Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, like digging for oil made a huge empty caves colapsing and ready to colapse....

    • @yuktichaudhari2247
      @yuktichaudhari2247 Před 2 lety +1

      Additionally, preventing formation of already scarce fossil fuels

    • @yuktichaudhari2247
      @yuktichaudhari2247 Před 2 lety +1

      I don't know why but watching this video makes me sick to my stomach like we don't deserve to exist because we don't know how to coexist with the nature

    • @BigShotShin
      @BigShotShin Před 2 lety +1

      @@yuktichaudhari2247 spot on, it’s sickening, your right, why didn’t we build with nature in mind from the start, the power hungry have a never ending drive for more, no matter the cost, it was never about protecting and coexisting with nature though it should’ve been, the native Americans had it right, they knew the importance of the delicate nature we take for granted, goes to show how corrupt some can be given power and how unimaginable their hunger is for more power, and control. I’ll say though seems so calculated these people got us on a train that’s gunna run off the cliff, and we are in the passenger cart enjoying their play while behind the curtain they are poisoning the food and destroying the train.

  • @TheCOWBOYRANCHER
    @TheCOWBOYRANCHER Před rokem +1

    I want some 1911 grips, but they range around $400-$500. Definitely an expensive luxury.

  • @pramodbais1486
    @pramodbais1486 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks.

  • @randallgates3679
    @randallgates3679 Před 2 lety +11

    But where’s the squirrel???

  • @Von199X
    @Von199X Před 2 lety +5

    They are wasting the oppurtunity there's a market for saber tooths

  • @angelreys7029
    @angelreys7029 Před 2 lety +1

    I would love to go there & find but also keep a Mammoth tusk as a decoration, but I'm also against cloning or bringing back to life a Mammoth. Bad idea when all they wanna do is study the animal & probly torture it just to end up dying, it's like the a famous Jurrasic park quote "scientists are so preoccupied whether or not they could" they didn't stop to think if they should "

    • @1bowmaniam
      @1bowmaniam Před rokem

      "they didn't stop to think if they should" Yeah, like some labs developing "gain of function" viruses!

  • @Yash-up5gz
    @Yash-up5gz Před 2 lety +1

    I won't be surprised to see next video being natural gas and oil discovered in the same area.

  • @breneganmcnulty6324
    @breneganmcnulty6324 Před 2 lety +8

    Wow this looks exactly like where I grew up in the Northwest Territories, Canada

    • @joeyaldente8858
      @joeyaldente8858 Před 2 lety +1

      it essentially is the northwest territories based on how the continents were structured eons ago. we're closer to russians than the world thinks!

    • @jamaltimmerman7052
      @jamaltimmerman7052 Před 2 lety

      Plenty of dead mammoths

  • @smokeywilly4364
    @smokeywilly4364 Před 2 lety +7

    Incredible scientific and historical finds being destroyed for greed.

    • @trader2137
      @trader2137 Před 2 lety +1

      lol... if it wasnt the hunters nobody would have EVER discovered them, as those paleontologists are lazy fuks

    • @ZechsMerquise73
      @ZechsMerquise73 Před 2 lety

      @@trader2137 Modern Paleontologists tend to preserve digs, not strip mine them. Even when they know where bones are, practice is to :not: dig them up if there's not much value in doing so. They leave some for a future generation and future perspectives.

    • @trader2137
      @trader2137 Před 2 lety

      @@ZechsMerquise73 thats why they never discover anything, because it takes ages for them to dig anything

    • @ZechsMerquise73
      @ZechsMerquise73 Před 2 lety

      @@trader2137 These miners aren't discovering things. They're letting rarer fossils fester on the ground.

    • @trader2137
      @trader2137 Před 2 lety

      ​@@ZechsMerquise73 what a coincidence that every single mammoth with fur was discovered by miners or workers and not 'paleontologists', same for dinosaurs, they dont do sht

  • @wglenbatemanjr9729
    @wglenbatemanjr9729 Před 2 lety

    are hunters incentivised and or encoureged to take photos over stages from initial sighting to final extraction?? Striations and surroundings can reveal details.
    is REforestation keeping track with gas released in process?

  • @joseph6929
    @joseph6929 Před 2 lety

    This is good vice

  • @Dantick09
    @Dantick09 Před 2 lety +3

    Should use that money for engineers to buttress those caves

  • @MrWicked61671
    @MrWicked61671 Před 2 lety +18

    The level of ignorance in this trade is not only mind-numbing, but it furthers my loss of faith in humanity to ever do the right thing for the future of Mother Earth and ALL lifeforms who inhabit her.

  • @JRM92B
    @JRM92B Před 2 lety +2

    another hidden reality we should be aware of, reminds me of the burmite amber mining. it's sad in many ways, for humans, for science, environment etc

  • @langelle1
    @langelle1 Před 2 lety

    Long bows would have done well in the Revolutionary War. It was even suggested but the amount of training and strength needed was too much to be implemented in a short amount of time.

  • @andrewwebb-trezzi2422
    @andrewwebb-trezzi2422 Před 2 lety +10

    It’s terrible. But I can also appreciate that when they find something unique or that they deem special, they have enough respect for the history to donate it to researchers.

  • @kingchris9167
    @kingchris9167 Před 2 lety +7

    Honestly I don’t see what’s wrong with this? Meeting the demand for ivory without having to take the lives of living elephants

    • @MCGreen13
      @MCGreen13 Před 2 lety +3

      Did you watch the video where they explained that it washes away other fossils that are useful to science?
      Also there is no reason for there to be a demand for Ivory - it is entirely useless.

    • @keatonjones6115
      @keatonjones6115 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree! Anything fossilized will take the weather fine out of the ground (still 0 degrees) all scientists should be flocking to the area and grabbing what they dont use, it seems they dont have an issue giving the stuff they dont need away but its super remote , im sure they wash away fleshy some fleshy bits though, but honestly if the permafrost is melting anything that was preserved wont be for long, itll get turned into oil underground once decomposition starts. Scientists already has a large number of tusks and even a whole baby carcass to study with living cells, thats pretty much the pinnacle of mammoth finds anyway, as fresh as they get! But it seems the whole area is riddled with a ridiculous amount and theres now way even a tiny % will be uncovered before decomposition given the rapid melt rate.

    • @petarkukuljica4372
      @petarkukuljica4372 Před 2 lety

      @@MCGreen13 they are not usefull for science there are probably milions of fossils of all kinds of animals in the permafrost its not like its 100 milion years old fossils its 15 thousand years old bones and they are plentyfull

  • @SB-ck9gq
    @SB-ck9gq Před 2 lety

    I should be getting ready for work, why am I watching these at 6am?

  • @Dr.Cosmar
    @Dr.Cosmar Před 2 měsíci

    The wildest part is that landscape. I think everyone's entitled to work together to make the most out of the valuable resources that are being reposited. Nobody will be able to dig those in situ anyway. Those sculpted tusks were some works of art too. It looks like it's devastating the land for now, but I do believe it's also returning a vast amount of minerals and resources to the surrounding environment. It's just going to take time for it to find it's equilibrium again.

  • @SK-hm3ze
    @SK-hm3ze Před 2 lety +21

    In any case, those bones will end up in the river when everything melts. So at least someone should get enriched from those bones.

    • @zuldo8577
      @zuldo8577 Před 2 lety +4

      True. As the scientist says nobody is interested in funding them to do the same, so if the hunters weren't there it would all get destroyed anyhow.

  • @coltonendicott3714
    @coltonendicott3714 Před 2 lety +19

    Yeah, I wonder who buys this super expensive and ancient ivory. Probably the same people who eat fish eggs to extinction. 🤣 Classy.

    • @tobysalvaje4511
      @tobysalvaje4511 Před 2 lety

      Asians prob

    • @BosworthMcG
      @BosworthMcG Před 2 lety +3

      The same people that eat pangolins and spread pandemics.

    • @drovoseg
      @drovoseg Před 2 lety +2

      Mmmm... Black fish eggs... So tasty

    • @honjokun0615
      @honjokun0615 Před 2 lety +2

      The clip explicitly mentioned that the buyers were Chinese

    • @blanca5050
      @blanca5050 Před 2 lety +2

      Same people responsible for all earth’s problems

  • @BigPaPaRu
    @BigPaPaRu Před 2 lety

    This is pretty wild

  • @josiahsawdey9712
    @josiahsawdey9712 Před 2 lety

    Adults needing little toy trinkets and stuff to look at has resulted in this.

  • @advikaditya523
    @advikaditya523 Před 2 lety +45

    "it's nothing serious, just a fracture"
    A RUSSIAN GUY

  • @comfortablynumb9342
    @comfortablynumb9342 Před 2 lety +7

    They could sell animal skulls too, especially saber tooth tiger skulls. I want one.

  • @elizapearson1022
    @elizapearson1022 Před 2 lety

    the hectic erosion of the permafrost stresses me out

  • @samgledhill
    @samgledhill Před 2 lety

    So interesting!!!!

  • @jackbenimblejack1
    @jackbenimblejack1 Před 2 lety +3

    Wait until one of the hunters exposes himself to an ancient alien virus...

  • @maxiano1230
    @maxiano1230 Před 2 lety +28

    "It's nothing serious, just a fracture" - The most Russian thing I've heard today

  • @seesritual8990
    @seesritual8990 Před 2 lety

    5:34 Just look at it, thats amazing!

  • @mefiars1232
    @mefiars1232 Před 2 lety +1

    Молодцы, показали как есть. И пусть хоть кто то скажет что тут нет коррупции

  • @MrFuckYouTube
    @MrFuckYouTube Před 2 lety +4

    Why is it illegal tho? The reason elephant tusks are illegal for sale/trade or to own is because people were poaching the elephants for their tusks. Not like these people are poaching the woolly mammoths or something... I'm genuinely curious.

    • @MrFuckYouTube
      @MrFuckYouTube Před 2 lety +1

      Well I get why it's illegal to disrupt the permafrost to find the tusks . But to own one even ? Like if you found it out in that wall from the beginning. Idk

  • @juliaherbet2063
    @juliaherbet2063 Před 2 lety +7

    The distraction is just horrendous

  • @shanecateriny4359
    @shanecateriny4359 Před rokem

    I love when thumb nails have the wrong pick. That’s a horn not a tusk