This Film Makes No Sense
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I suppose she could have sent him some winning lottery numbers in one of her letters, maybe agreed to split the money
She should have put a copy of Grays Sports Almanac in the box! 😉
She also could have ended up at the house anyway for some other reason (was going to end up there because of her depression regardless of his death). Her not knowing this for sure would explain her emotional moment at the end before Keanu shows up. I wouldn't watch Bullock's next movie, Premonition though, that movie is seriously messed up with the timeline and is like a nightmare version of this one.
Hey Dave, I do we recommend movies for you to review?
In case you see this I'd love you review The Perfect Storm.
Not seen this it sounds what it needed is some seances going twice with alterations to time from correspondences remove pointless parts taken out.
I'd recommend watching "Your name" it's a anime movie with certain similarities to this movie but that one covers all lose ends so there are no paradoxes, It is a BRILLIANT movie, my mother who doesn't watch anime loved it. PS: for the English version look up the Dub version.
I liked this movie in 2006.
Watching it now makes me sad because Chicago was actually livable back then. 2020 took care of that.
Beetlejuice took care of that.
@@TheGrimmCommoner It's hard to believe they replaced her with someone perhaps even worse but there it is!
Shit, I was lamenting Chicago all the way as recently as the movie Source Code
If only you could send a letter back to yourself . . . .
@@GeeTrieste "The Democrats will steal the 2020 election from Donald Trump."
"Yeah, I can completely believe that."
I remember the selling point was Bullock and Reeves together again because they had great chemistry in Speed, so the plot was… nobody really cared.
Is this one of those situations where the conversion from the book to the movie loses a lot of the explanations and creates extra plot holes and confusion?
More like conversion from the South Korean movie (Il Mare)
Wonder if Dave would review Il Mare?
I remember being dragged to this at the theaters back in the day by my then GF...It was a total clusterf*ck! 🤣
U should have told her no, women who like this shit are a nightmare
The dog is a magical fairy that helps the couple fall in love. Anyone can see it. There are no plot holes.
See? Someone gets it!
We don’t deserve dogs. They’re the best.
Doggo gay?
It's not supposed to make sense, it's just a romance movie to get your GF in the mood.
Pretty much this. Romance films are mostly fluff with a little drama sprinkled in.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm so glad I'm not one of those type of women 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's so brain dead. When my husband remembers to bring the milk home I'm thrilled 🤣🤣
Now THAT makes sense. So long as you don't mind knowing all that sweet loving to come later is meant for Keanu.
I feel like the anime movie "Kimi no Nawa" has the same premise of a couple separated by time but did it far better...
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey-wimey stuff." -The Tenth Doctor
This should (or maybe definitely shouldn’t!) be the par for course, when you need to explain time travelling 😂
"A theory that is contradictory in itself cannot begin to explain the contradictions inherent within it." Yuki Nagato. 'Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody' (Episode 8 of 'The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya').
I feel like the anime movie "Kimi no Nawa" has the same premise of a couple separated by time but did it far better...
Don't you just love a good Grandfather paradox!
I hate back to the future for teaching people how time travel works. IRL we already know how time dilation and relativistic speeds work. At no point does some time god or time police show up to delete time travelers.
To be fair, I've seen hard sci-fi movies mess this kind of thing up so a romance movie doing it is no shock. :)
DEEP SPACE NINE.
'The sound of her voice'
Done better
@@jasonvoorhees8545 but your partner would be too depressed to get it on.😂
Keanu Reeves deserves better than this.
That is all.
I think Sandy dragged him into it.
So this time Keanu is the Architect
Something something Matrix something something
Send her “a hickory Farms package in the mail”
There's a bit in the Robot Chicken sketch of it that did something similar. :)
*unzips*
*opens lid*
Annoyed "WTF?"
@@ecgameplayer I should clarify that is what he does in the Robot Chicken bit but when she opens the mailbox she says "Oh my Hickory Farms package has arrived.
@LibraGamesUnlimited I think you're confusing Family Guy for Robot Chicken, because that's exactly what happens in the episode "Stewie kills Lois". The hickory farms joke is the TV version, while my post is the DVD version.
@@ecgameplayer Now that I think about it, I think you're right. Is all the humor getting to be the same? Seth McFarlane is rubbing off on Seth Green. :)
They should have both emailed each other, and this would have made the film shorter.🤣
Nobody:
Cullen: “I am going to review every time travel love story ever made!”😂
I feel like the anime movie "Kimi no Nawa" has the same premise of a couple separated by time but did it far better...
Is he gonna review that too?
You can forgive quite a bit of the logical gaps if you pretend that the time paradoxes were originally prompted by the possibility that the driver of the car was a Terminator robot who was sent from the future to off Alex Wyler, one of John Connor's most trusted lieutenants, ahead of Judgement Day.
It all makes sense now. You have breathed new life into the story of The Lake House and Terminator shared universe.
The South Korean movie it copies from 'Il Mare' is worth the watch. Jun Ji-hyun is amazing ❤
That's funny because the other movie Jun Ji-Hyun is known for, _My Sassy Girl_ , also has a time travel element to it! And it also got remade into a (less interesting) American film.
I’d argue has more in common with The Love Letter.
@@gravesidepoet5405 It’s an official remake of the Korean movie
I always thought this movie was rhe sequel to SPEED," You're stuck in a time loop what do you do What do you do" 🤣
Thought it interesting coincidence that Christopher Plummer and Christopher Reeves were in one time traveling love story, and Christopher Plummer and Keanu Reeves were in another time traveling love story.
Reeve
They’re both movie stars! What a cool coinkydink 😂😂😂
Another one you might like is Sliding Doors starring Gwyneth Paltrow. Its not really time travel. Its a "what if" movie. Paltrow's character is shown going through an automated sliding door which leads to different outcomes. In one, she gets held up by the door, is late home and didn't catch her boyfriend cheating on her. Her life takes one path.
In the other timeline the door opens for her she gets home and catches her boyfriend. They break up and her life takes a different path.
The film follows both versions of her roughly parallel times but different events.
It sounds pretty sappy but it was quite good - well as far as I can recall as i haven't watched it in over 10 years....
One of my fave romcoms. (I actually can't stand Paltrow, but the film is so well done that I can forgive her lol)
This movie is a classic
Never saw the film but the concept is also loosely similar to the Japanese MEGA-POPULAR anime called “Your Name” in 2016. There, they invoked literal magic to resolve any suspension of disbelief due to paradoxes.
When they live in the same house at different times?
I remember never watching it for the plot. It's just about two people living their own lives, and writing letters to someone they're falling in love with that just so happens to be somewhere across time. Even the dropped characters just shows how one looses connection to people over time, even though they used to be so important to you at one point. And how a chance meeting or two that one never gave a thought about afterwards could hold so much meaning when given context.
Alex didn’t read the letter from Kate before putting the letters into the attic because it wasn’t there until she sent it, exactly 2 years later.
If there's one thing I've learned in my life, just roll with the core concept of a James Patterson story. He writes so much that a good bit of them get real weird.
Keanu's sneeze was the best part of the movie.
There's another one called "Love Letter", where a man in the 20th century exchanges letters with a woman from the Civil War era. The magic was a rolltop desk.
Not surprising that the tiime travel mechanics are a little wonky considering the source material. Kdramas involving time travel are notorious for not going into detailed explanation on how time travel works within the story. The Tunnel, The Signal, Familiar Wife and Marry My Husband just to name a few. I love them for there dramatic aspect but as a fan of scifi you really have to check logic at the door while watching. Kind of like watching some of the old twilght zones.
Just to point it out: There is no such thing as a "paradox" in the real world - That is just a label. An entirely human construct to gloss over contradictions in logic - Which is also an entirely human construct with limited application to reality. If something "illogical" happens in the real world, it isn't the real world that is wrong. Science Fiction should follow the rules of science, but that has nothing to do with logic.
"Dont think too much about temporal mechanics. It will only give you a headache." - captain kathryn janeway, uss voyager
Clearly the mailbox is actually just a device that let's you hop between alternate universes.
Like my walk in closet 😂
There’s an anime called ‘Your Name’ with a similar concept. I thought it was a great film.
I liked this back in the day.
I was going to say it was a rip-off of "Frequency," 3 seconds before you mentioned it.
I love Frequency💕and when Dennis is still alive because he HAD quit smoking brings a tear😢. The only head scratcher was why wouldn’t ’John’ not have been with ‘Samantha’. Maybe it was just a reminder when you change one thing, it has unforeseen consequences.
Many years ago, a curious much younger me was going through my mother's collection of books in the hopes that something of what she read was at least mildly interesting. Most of it was historical dramas and typically girly stuff. At one point, I came across a trio of small books with the names Griffin and Sabine in the titles. It was about a male doctor who was corresponding with a mysterious woman. Despite numerous attempts to meet in person, they were thwarted by something unknown, even though they were both there at the agreed-upon location and time. Eventually, their story would end with a mysterious letter written in her hand in plural sense, referring to a boy who was being treated for an illness. It was the most head-scratching book I ever read. Still affects me to this day. 😎👍
Although 2006 Kate (at the hospital) had met 2004 Alex, she didn’t make the connection with some guy she snogged with one night at a party two years earlier, and she certainly wouldn’t be thinking about the guy in the mailbox, because she hasn’t met him yet.
It's a damned good thing I don't have a magical time-hole mailbox, because I have the postage and the mindset to paradox the crap out of this world!
I gotta disagree with you. This movie might not make perfect sense but this is a nice and wholesome movie, it's beautiful.
So sorry you were convinced to watch this. I blame us.
I _will_ say that while the South Korean original _Il Mare_ is a bit gloomy and tragic, it's more stylish and coherent.
It's a romantic movie made for women. It's not supposed to make sense 😂 I'm a woman and really liked this movie 😊
I don't like those generalizations. I'm a woman, and I want my movies to make sense. Therefore, I hated this movie.
@@letfreedomring7330 I agree. It implies that all women are dense. My mother weaned me on films like Dr Zhivago, Casablanca, The Time Machine, Bringing Up Baby and Wings of Desire. I don't think gender should dictate sloppy writing.
@@franknb7827Yes. Thank you. It's downright insulting.
@@letfreedomring7330 movies aren't meant to cater to the minority of women but the majority.
@@WhoDaresWinso7True, but saying it doesn't have to make sense because it's for women is still insulting. Also, a movie can be sappy and romantic and still tell a cohesive story, and it would appeal to far more people. I do like romantic movies, but not ones that insult my intelligence.
That should be the climax, she only has moments to decide to UNDO the entire relationship theyve had but save his oife and hope to meet him in the future.
You’re missing the most important point Dave! …this was the first time Keanu and Sandra have been on screen together since SPEED 😅😅… no I’m not kidding, that was a huge marketing point when it came out.😑
06:26 - Dave's caricature... 'Smug mode... On'... 😏🤣🤣🤣
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The most heartbreaking thing for me regarding The Lake House was that the house itself was demolished after the film was made.
I was really annoyed having learned of this.
Only a couple of small parts of the interior appeared in the film too, despite it being built very well.
The Star Trek DS9 episode, "The Sound of Her Voice" made more sense when talking about communication through time. It was so touching when they discover that Captain Lisa Cusak died YEARS before they ever got the distress signal but, when they take her body back, they feel like they've known her forever & find some solace in how their ability to talk to her as she died gave her hope & eased the pain by eliminating the loneliness of her final hours.
In the tragedy of it all, it's still a beautiful episode.
Hey, there's interesting Spanish sci fi film called "time crimes" (2007), that I enjoyed watching. Not as confusing as Primer, and one that felt more understandable once you've reached the end.
The idea she may have shifted to a new unique timeline and has no knowledge of how it played out is actually terrifying.
Would recommend you watching Makoto Shinkai's 'Your Name' if you liked the concept of this movie but not the execution.
It's not perfect but definitely tries to fill in a lot of the holes you pointed out in this review, much tighter pace and story as well.
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Looks like we already got a better version as 'Your Name.'
When you described the letters through time and the dead guy I knew immediately that Keanu would be the dead guy. I’ve never even seen the movie.
Hmmm... Is this one of those "shot in the back by Buford Tannen" time paradoxes where she creates a new timeline branch by writing the letter that saves Alex's life? So, the timeline she is on post writing the letter is with a different Alex? The infinite possibilities from infinite actions timelines thingy?
This is one of my favorite love stories. I realize time travel is not real therefore am not bothered with this story telling flaw.
It makes the time travel in Bill & Ted seem like pure genius.
I'm right there with you, Dave. I got about 15 to 20 minutes into this film (as I love both these actors) but I couldn't handle any more. For all the reasons you've given. Nice job.
It was the magic mailbox that allowed them to come through the paradox. Don’t ask questions! 😉😉😉
Time branched off when they cause a paradox. Both realities happen and carry on their separate timeline.
I think there's an anime movie which also borrows this concept, two high school students at different points in time who swap bodies back and forth, and begin to work together to change events.
Are you thinking of 'Your Name'? (2016)
Your Name, but that one has critical acclaim, most audience loved it and was a hit in Japan's box office.
The difference is the soundtrack was great, the pacing was good, it was entertaining, the plot has cultural and mystical stuff to explain things and make it more engaging and meaningful than The Lake House.
@@haitolawrence5986 It could be, a friend showed it to us.
Though honestly, how many time-travelling body swap movies are there?
This reminds me of a chinese anime called Link Click. The biggest hook for this anime is that you have a pair of guys who can travel back in time to a limited extent through photos but the pact is that they cannot change anything. So if a person dies, a kid gets kidnapped, whatever they have to just live that moment to do whatever they need to do.
The idea behind it is that if they do make a change the version of themselves would cease to exist or at least that is implied.
It is a great great anime with absolutely top notch music and OST.
@Davecullen if you could review this Chinese anime I would totally recommend it.
Wow, Speed 3
Like speed 2 only at slower speed. I still liked.
The paradox was shown in the "Time Machine" remake. The main character time traveler goes back in time to stop his fiance from being killed but when he saves her, she just dies another way. When he goes looking for answers, he finally finds it from the villain of the film. If his fiance had never died, he would have never invented the time machine to go back and save her and so she would always die because he had to have a motivation to create the time machine in the first place.
Time travel will always produce paradoxes, except for the self-fulfilling type.
I've always liked this movie in spite of its obvious flaws.. but when you mentioned there was an original Korean version (that i didn't know about) I HAD to watch it. I literally just finished it and honestly.... I actually like it better. I won't spoil it because its actually a bit different to "The Lake House". But you might want to give it a watch. It doesn't really have any of the unnecessary filler with the other characters in it, and it being a late 90's/2000 movie its got a peaceful vibe to it. Its called "il mare". And you might just like how it ends compared to "The Lake House".
Give it a try. I recommend it.
Honestly, I can't think of a single Hollywood remake of a foreign film that was better than the original.
It might have been better if they wrote letters back and forth through a magical cupboard to wealthy nobleman of England or France and it ends where she falls in love with his descendant or something on Linked in in the same mansion in that country. That would been kind of messed up but good and she reads all of her old letters from the 1700s.
I remember watching this without thinking about what didn't make sense 'cause I was just fanboying on Sandra. But I'm glad you mentioned Frequency. At least that one had a way of explaining why things were happening.
I liked Frequency more than Lakehouse, but then again, I'm not a fan of romance films in any way.
however, I think time travel works eerily similar in both these films. Rather than things changing to have always been that way, at least for the main character, he sees them change in real time. The desk burns letter by letter in frequency, while a tree appears right above Sandra as Keanu is planting it.
The reason she is still able to write the letter that saves his life is that she did not change the past 2/4 years. The changes she made only took effect the moment she wrote her letter. Everyone else will remember him being alive, but for Sandra, he was always dead until that moment. He appeared like the tree, and while time will remember him having always been there, she will not.
I look at it as a symptom of writers not understanding time or any of the time travel theories. I was going to say people, but caught myself because writers aren't people.
Thanks Dave
The Terminantor has the same paradox, John Conner can't exist without the future father existing first. Computing forever?
In a similar vein I recommend a 2016 Japanese time-bending romantic drama titled 'Boku wa Asu, Kinō no Kimi to Dēto Suru' (rough translation: Tomorrow I will Date Yesterday's You) The English language title is 'My Tomorrow, Your Yesterday.' Essentially, it's about two people living their lives in the opposite direction from each other, so as she grows older he gets younger and vice versa. Although they meet and have a brief romantic relationship there is an event (no spoilers) that connects their lives at either end of their individual stories. It's bittersweet, but well written and keeps you guessing.
I always refer to this film as "The Magic Mailbox"
They slightly explain the kiss and the dance scene as she has vague memory of it maybe? but the actual memory of Alex comes to her in real time the moment Alex and Kate share that moment together. Honestly I am pretty sure I saw this kind of thing on doctor who lol.
I think that for the decade of 95-05 there were a lot of romance movies that followed the same style of pacing. Slow and plodding just turned out to be the name of that game for a while. It doesn't necessarily make any of those movies any better, but at least it might serve as an explanation for how this turned out the way that it did.
You should watch the anime movie 'Your Name.' Beautiful tale that also used a gimmick, like this.
She created a new timeline by sending the 2008 letter. Therefore it is not neccesarily a paradox just a new branch on the evergrowing tree of time. 😉
If the mailbox sends the letters to a certain time, shouldn't all the letters appear at the same time.
Wow I had never thought about this. I had watched this years ago.
There’s a DS9 episode like this that worked way better. The crew thinks they’re talking to someone in real time and due to sci fi stuff they’re talking to someone in the past.
I remember that. One of those 'wormhole' plots. Good episode and the twist at the end had real weight to it.
Honestly curious to hear Dave’s takes on the Resident Evil movies and the Underworld movies. If he hasn’t done them already.
Thanks for the warnings! I'll pick Frequency for the win!
Welp, i figure someone will mention this, might as well be me.
The premise is kinda similar to the anime steins gate. Instead of letters, its texts that can be sent to specific dates through time. The difference is that steins gate uses this premise to basically alter history untill the main character is in a completely altered city than he started in. Showing the huge butterfly effect and the lengths and sacrifices that must be done to undo everything.
A ton of time travel movies have paradoxes which aren't acknowledged by the movie. Zathura has a similar paradox which isn't acknowledged by the characters. The main character makes it so that his brother was never born, however that just caused brother to disappear in the present rather than changing the entire timeline.
I said the same thing about the original Dune movie,after two hours I was left confused and wondering what the &$!@ I just watched.
I do like how the time machine with guy pearce is self aware with such paradox.
Jeremy Irons explains it clearly as well, with the events previous, pearce couldn't create a machine to go back, to change the past...
A morbius time loop creates an illogical paradox, but a time slinky (based on many worlds theory) would mean that Bullock from timeline A gets pushed into timeline loop B while retaining knowledge pf what happened in loop A
A time travel romance without the off-putting weirdness of a Time Traveler's Wife. It is slow paced but the chemistry between the leads - and every scene with Christopher Plummer saves it.
every timetravel movie fails when you follow the timeloop through 1 iteration. you cant hold that against a friggin romantic drama
Bullock is a man. Bullock is an old english word for castrated bull.
Wouldn’t be a bit surprised.
I think this was based on a series of books, the Griffin & Sabine trilogy. It’s romance first and time travel second. The original books were very cool, they had actual notes folded into them. Not something you’d ever see now, too expensive to manufacture.
My ex-wife convinced me to watch this film back then. I knew I didn't like it, and now I remember why. Thanks Dave.
Cheers. 😎
This type of time travel science fiction is: "Change what goes badly about the past, other things you like will stay the same. " Like Hot Tub Time Machine.
I highly recommend 'The Lost Room' A three part mini-series.
Dave already made a video recommending it.
I love a romance with a happy ending, but I'm a sci-fi fan first so this film drove me crazy
My wife and I saw this when it came out on DVD. We enjoyed it when we first saw it, but when we saw it years later we thought it was terrible.
Would love you to take a luck at Deja Vu, a highly entertaining Tony Scott/Denzel Washington time travel romp…..but with one seriously huge plot hole.
Are you seriously saying it's a plot hole that she didnt recognize a random guy she danced with 2 years beforehand? Come on man, that's pretty idiotic to call that a plot hole
A movie with a magical time portal mailbox. I would love to have been at the studio pitch meeting for this one.
I love how in The Big Bang Theory Sheldon hates this film.
My mom loved this movie. So I love this movie. Your points are valid, 100%. But I still love it.
I agree with you about the need to be logically consistent. My rule of thumb on this is that you can get away with one unbelievable element. The mailbox that can send letters across time. But everything else has be believable and consistent to make up for it. So, in the beginning, you need an explanation for how the mailbox accomplishes this, and you need to establish a set of rules for how it works. That would need to include a way to address temporal paradoxes. And one question I have is why it sends letters forward in time in his case and backwards in hers? Did it flip poles on a particular year? And how does anyone get their mail at this lake house? Are their utility bills sent two years into the past or the future? Or maybe it's tied to these two people. And it only works when they put letters in the mailbox rather than the mailman. I don't know. But that's why it's important to establish the rules from the beginning.
Haven't seen this film, and from the high level concept it would be something I'd want to watch.
However, it sounds as if it would have been better as a 45-60 minute episode in an anthology series than as a full blown feature.
Very well said. Yes, it would work more as an Outer limits or a Twilight Zone episode
@@TheDaveCullenShow Speaking of anthologies, have you seen the adaptation of PKD's The Commuter done by Channel 4 as part of their Electric Dreams series? I thought it was well done ✅
Could have been a good episode of Quantum Leap