Cheap M3 High compression clone with M52 and M54B30 internals 001
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Build a 3.0l High compression engine with m52B28 block and M54B30 internals and S52B32 USA camshaft and a 0,031 MLS Cometic head gasket.
--lots of technical specifications and differences between the components
I love this video! Please Sir could we have some more? A one hour detailed description of your build brilliance of this wonderful stroker engine. That would be lovely.
Thanking you in advance.
Good video, currently building an m50b30 stroker myself.
and i couldn't understand anything... which block, rods, pistons, crankshaft, head....
is it
M52B28 (block), head also?
M54B30 Crankshaft, Piston and connecting rods????
Porting only exhaust ports?
so much great information in this video thank you!
I’m planning on building a motor with m52b28 block and m54b30 crank, rods, and pistons. What thickness head gasket could I use to get an 11.5:1 compression ratio? I’d like to avoid shaving the head if I don’t have to.
bonjour si je mets tout les internes m54 3.0 vilbrequin bielles et piston oem , dans un bloc m52 328i avec les arbres a cames us s52 avec un joint de culasse cometic de 0.76 ,mn . quelle serait mon rapport volumetrique ? GESTION E85 PREVUE. MERCI POUR VOTRE AIDE .
how much HP did this make , 300 really? did u have any interference with the rod bolts hitting the bottom of cylinder wall? did u have to grind anything?
at least, and have a lot of fun,,, -;) it's now a high compression engine with a 0.70 mm head gasket
i have no interference with the rod bolts hitting the bottom or cylinder --shore its plug and play .. you have to use the oil splash guard of M54B30 Because The longer stroke
Very nice! Great job! I plan on building my M54b30 for turbo. But very unclear on head bolt info. Some say i must timesert and over size studs to 11mm others say its not necessary and i can use stock bolts.... big confusion.
Depends on how much boost your running.. the stock size but ARP bolt are a upgrade without the extra work.. but its a choice
M.I. A. In my M52B30 built we had to grind the bottom part of the cylinders else rods were hitting them and crankshaft wouldn't turn. I didn't need M54B30 splash shield either - the stock M52B25 fit perfect. With a bunch of other mods a nice power to be seen, but still far from 300 ponies on the wheels.
Valentin Pavlov i agree. Facing this problem right now. Having to regrind bottom for rod clearance. Using M50nv rods are worst case.
Wat een mooi project !!
What ECU is used for this build?
The standard ecu whit a chip specialy written for this engine
the stock ECU is remapt ont the dino.
@@maranusbouw9717 how much did it make at the wheels?
Ik heb nu al een paar keer het filmpje bekeken en dus heb ik het juist dat de afstand tss kleppen en zuigers nog 3,72mm is met de cometic dichting en s52 nokkenassen?
klopt, wel zijn de uitsparingen welke in een 328i zuiger zit ook in deze zuigers gemaakt om aan deze speling te komen..
Ah, ok. Bedankt voor uw antwoord. Ik ben bezig met een gelijkaardig project, wel voor in een e30. En terwijl de motor toch volledig open ligt, wil ik er het liefst zoveel mogelijk uit halen.
het is nu 2.04 mm, let op dat je klepsparingen maakt in de zuiger
does the m54 piston and rods fit without any modification because of the height
on a m50 block m52 head
also did you tried to fit 140mm rods
you have to use the M54 pistons and rod, the m52 pistons and rod wil hit the head!
hey bro are you shave from the block and if you shave it how much you shave ?
because i finish my project was m50 block m54 crank+rods+pistons piston set 1.8mm below and i use 1.75mm head gasket m54 intake cam m50nv intake on exhaust side but cr still low if why calculate piston height with head gasket 3.55mm and your piston sit 3.22 below with 0.76 and head skimmed 0.3 =3.68mm and your cr 12:1 mine 10:9 why? every thing i worked clean
You should check what your headgasket thickness is, and work from there.
I skimmed the head more and the headgasket is 0,76 mm
so if you have left m52b28 pistons on m54 crankshaft it will be hit the head?
Yes! it will be hit the head!
@@maranusbouw9717 but if i stay with m54 internals lower head gasket like 0.57 and 260/240 custom camshafts pretty much like us camshaft do you know if it will be fine? mine its a vanos engine
did you use the pistons and rods out of the B28 or the B30? and can the standard M54B30 cams be uses instead of the S52 cams?
I did use the piston and rods out of the B30 and the crankshaft. The cams From the M54 are double vanos and can by use whit some modifications but I don't recommend that better use the s52 M3 ore M52 b28 cams.
did you machine the block to get a higher compression or just use a thinner head gasket? and for the modification on the M54 cams, is that shaving 5mm of the vanos gear?
The block looks fine, instead I machined the head 0.3mm and a thinner head gasket with 1 mm less thickness Oem is 1.76 mm and the MLS from Cometic was 0.76 mm thick.
I use the pistons and rod from the M54B30 and the cams dousnt work its a double Vanos.
I did this to my M52B25 but I used M50B20 non vanos rods being them the beefier out of M50 vanos, M52, M54. I also used head studs instead of bolts. Now running 260whp and great fun to drive.
awesome work looks splendid! how many wheel hp did you achieve and how many racing hours you think this type of motor tuning can handle?
Wheel Hp I think 280, and I hope it will last a very long time. Until now it runs floorless a bit rough because the high compression setting and a aluminium flywheel but that doesn't matter in a race car.. as long we have fun.
That's to find out over time, but my feling is good- and its proven over time reliable
een super mooi video juist wat ik zocht ik heb een m52 2.0 liter blok zou dat ook mogelijk zijn om dit blok om te bouwen naar s52 ? super video groetjes
Hoi Sulo Kek - de 2.0 heeft een kleinere diameter zuiger dus dat zal helaas niet gaan vanaf de 323I waar een 2.5 blok in zit kan het.
het 2.0 blok is de zuigerdiameter 80 mm en de 2,5 en 2,8 en de M54b3.0 zijn allemaal 84 mm enkel de slag van de krukas word groter / dus meer inhoud motor
i will rebuild again and put 1mm head gasket how much my compression ratio will be in your knowledge ? plz reply because i desperate
210
So M52B28 pistons on M54B30 crank will work? Nice 😁
No, The M52B28 come above the deck surface / these have more thickness and touch the head.
thuis algm mar I have a non vanos block and M54B30 rotating assembly I want to use to build a stroker. What do you recommend I do to increase the compression. I believe it would be 10:5:1 after swapping the crank into it.
is this engine still alive? I see September 26, 2016 is the release date of the video. Good job, thank you for sharing!
Hello Sibi, This engine is still alive and kicking! I use it for the track therefor I dont now how its cona behave as a daily driver.
@@maranusbouw9717 how much power does it make? have you dynoed it at checked?
use1 mm hd or shave 0.50 mm from the block and still use 1.75 hd
suuper imphormacia👍
Nice build, I do have a question with regards to the m54 piston rings that you are using, are they compatible with the aluminium block with nikasil? Any problems so far with the engine running?
Thanks! I don't have any problems at al, the piston ring of the m54 are smaller and less drag - the engine runs on the higher compression very well but he is a bit more nervous and jumpi ...
Welke compressieverhouding nu? 12,5:1 ?
voor zover ik heb kunnen berekenen zou het IDD ronde de 12,5 zijn, loopt wat onrustig, maar gaat als de brandweer..
you got 12,5 as compression rate? Isn‘t that a litte bit too much? i would like to have CR 11,5. how much should my headgasked be? I read that you removed 0.3mm from the head and took the gasked from the m54 with 0,7mm thinkness.
@@vw133s Not too high, if you run at least 98 octane.
How much material did you remove? Only Head or also the Block? I would like to use the stock Headgasket...
That's US Spec M3 engine. Euro 3.0 has 286 HP and 3.2 321 HP ;)
hi no this is de m52 328i or 323 i complete engine, and internals m54 b30 330 ci or 530 i e39 , and cameshaft m3 us 3.2 . excuse my englich .moteur complet 328 i ou 323 i m52 bloc aluminium alesage 84 mm. tous les internes ,vilebrequin bielles et pistons moteur m54 b30 . 330 ci 530 i 730 i . et les arbres a cames d admission et echappement sont du m3 us 3.2 . voila ca fait un bon moteur car l alesage est le meme de 84 mm. ca permet de passer la cylindree a 3.0 l
@@andygrant8091 you are dumb
@@hugocunha30 TON PERE EST UN HOMOSEXUEL , et ta mere une groose pute
Oh en doet u dit voor uzelf, of is dit uw werk?
het is voor de Hobby, en een beetje experimenteren wat je uit een blok kan halen.
Aah nederlander! Nice. Hoeveel rpm draai je met deze setup?
Melvin Nix , hij gaat nu soepeltjes naar de 7300 rpm rijd echt lekker maar tegen de 7000 neemt het koppel weer af .
Ah kijk, ik wil een m52b28 tot 8k rpm laten gaan. En dan ook nog echt zinvol zegmaar.
Vanos eraf, forged internals, compressie verhouding van 1 op 12 dikke nokkenassen en sterkere klepveren. Kop flowen, throttlebodies, spaghetti spruitstuk.
Melvin Nix , lijkt mij leuk om te volgen.. ga je ook video's posten?
Das wel de bedoeling, eerst de schroefset en strongflex bussen in de ophanging. Blokje zal nog een paar maanden duren maar staat zeker op de planning.
hello, what injectors are u using?
The Pink one from a 328i
thuis algm mar thx m8
Do you know About ring gap specs?
I use the Oem piston rings
Good job, what is the height between cylinded deck and piston at tdc
its 3.22 mm below
thank you bro
hope your knowledge ? need your assistant
would looove to get my hands on the new b58 and stroke and bore it out to 3.6lit or more so i get a B58S38 or B58S36 with more agressive cams and a tiny bitt bigger turbo.
ever dyno it?
I did dyno it for the chip to bi bilt for the Beamer, it was a 305 hp and its suprice even the guy who dyno'it . its very fun to drive..
@@maranusbouw9717 wheel horse power?
@@JD-ml7cg crank horse power
Zolder racetrack?
Yes it is. great racetrack
thuis algm mar wanna go for a ride?
Yep the 19 juli 2017 on trackday circuit zolder Belgie
Yes, its Fun
face palm on not getting the iron block lol
Aluminium block is better for this. Lighter and can handle the power easily. M52 can handle ~ 450 hp on boost without breaking.
@@BastianKH 450hp fully built tho right?
@@BastianKH the head will pull out your arp studs from your aluminum block later on under boost. That's why cast iron blocks are better.
thats not an M