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HA Bricks loses! But how bad did they lose?
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LEGO abandons the LEGO train enthusiasts then has a sook when LEGO train enthusiasts get their fix elsewhere.
I've ordered loads of train wheels and motor bogies off Ali express. Saved me a fortune since lego ones are rare on their own. And Ali express do far more sizes and styles.
Lego has abandoned it's roots for licensed and expensive sets! I'm through with them! I'll spend my money on other brands!
I'll do as I please with the product I buy, and resell as I please. 🇺🇲
The global Lego fan base provides free marketing for the Lego Group that creates adoption of new Lego fans leveraging the "network effect" over the last 30 years. The fan base needs to be encouraged. Then Lego goes and stops these fans via litigation. Without these fans Lego would have never been such a successful global toy company. This action for me by the Lego group has provided a sinister and negative view of Lego. I will definitely be having this thought when considering to buy Lego in the future.
Whyyyyyy LEGO ?????????
I think more people will turn to using clone bricks.
I didn't own any clock blocks, but that’s will change.
Lego is not giving the track options, We need.
So how are HA Bricks sets and printed elements different from Brickmania sets and printed elements?
"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others” - George Orwell
From looking at the case, HA Bricks was either selling printed/custom bricks on BrickLink, which is against the terms of service they agreed to, or they were printing trademarked images on Minifigures, which are themselves trademarked. My understanding is that this goes against trademark law. You cant print a trademark on another trademark and then resell it.
LEGO GROUP needs to keep their, "dirty hairy paws off its customers!"
As if my day wasn't going bad enough....
This is Bizarre. So if I buy a canvas and paint and paint a picture and then sell it, I can’t legally do that because it was made with someone else’s products?
It's a little more complex than this. The problem is predominantly one of trademark - you're not allowed to use the LEGO emblem on your products as a third party seller, and unfortunately that includes the molded-in LEGO emblem on the studs of each brick. HA unfortunately ran afoul of this.
Even so, LEGO's response was way overblown and reeks of weaponized litigation in an attempt to secure a monopoly. They could have easily just settled by requiring HA to remove any LEGO branding from their completely original products and to sell their kits as instructions only instead, instead of shutting them down entirely. HA has grounds to retaliate with an antitrust complaint.
If I was in HA Bricks shoes, I would have filed an antitrust complaint the moment I received the C&D, and then also altered my CAD drawings to remove any LEGO emblems just to be safe. Technically LEGO was in the right here but the lawsuit was blatantly in bad faith in an attempt to shut down competition.
This is the same shit Traxxas pulls in the RC hobby.
Ontop of that 16000 euros he also has 30000 euros in his own lawyers cost. There is currently a fundraiser going on to cover the 50k euro damages
I kind of get it in some ways but Lego's rules by and large seem to assume their enthusiasts are dumb.
I buy the product and it becomes my property. I'll do whatever I want to with it and sell it if I choose to do so.
Try printing Nike logos on shirts and reselling them as a business.
As a long time Lego fan, I had enough of this company. I am selling all my modern Lego and will not buy any new item. The fun is gone. Looking at Lego makes me feel sick now. It’s a pity the masses will not know how selfish this company is. Let’s hope this will terribly backfire on them.
If Lego supplies all of us train enthusiasts with products like the very badly shaped ‘Orient Express’ (an insult for the original designer AND the legendary train itself) for ridiculous prices, they should not be surprised that we look elsewhere for better ways of design, building and spending our money on brick-build trains.
As well as the 18+ Hogwarts Express. That one also got screwed
Welp, time to start buying mould king trains.
lol. Same as well. Already got one as well as a couple of Speed Champions sets from them. Just a warning on the Mallard set, you’ll need to modified the front bogle because it uses a flex tube connector to tha frame which causes it tk derail on curves.
Same. I'm planning to buy some mould king train sets some day.
As brilliant as that sounds, one of the obvious drawbacks of putting a gratuity on your hobbies is that it really isn't yours anymore.😔
So if HA bricks permanently changed the appearance then whats the problem. Are we not allowed to modify our own bricks. There's no end of chinese companies imitating lego but they go after the one that actually does a good job and pieces lego don't do. Why not work with HA bricks, buy them up and do another line of models etc with HA bricks running that line.
How the f*ck can lego have rules after you purchase their product. Surely if you can't modify and resell lego then selling sets missing figures and bricks isn't allowed either.
Urgh can just picture lego suing for the customer data and then suing the customers too. I wouldn't be surprised, if they can't get those in china then they'll get the customers. Morons. Perhaps if lego fulfilled what people want or need for models people wouldn't modify their own or purchase modified ones.
The problem of the bricks with the bearings is that they had the "LEGO" logo on top of the studs and therefore someone could think that those are official LEGO parts.
HA Bricks should have somehow cancelled "LEGO" from the studs or used alternative suppliers or 3D printed the bricks themselves.
Furthermore, the list of bricks used did not properly differentiate what was actually LEGO and not.
This means that HA Bricks was basically making LEGO liable to all the parts and modified parts without LEGO consent. I think this was reasonable.
However, I don't like the severity LEGO went down.
They could have settled it with forcing some new book instructions and emails to inform of the changes and that's it. Plus a small fine.
@@jossdeiboss aaaah. I'd have just filed it off.
@@TechJoe1994
Personally I would have resin-printed them from a modified Mecabricks model without LEGO branding, just to be on the safe side and to provide a more "professional" looking product.
Expect some train sets released by lego in the near future! Count on it!
Pfft! In 2 years sure
I don't think so. The LEGO sets they release are never good enough for realistic models.
@@jossdeiboss YT deleted my comment! There are other brands that offer trains or you can create your own! I'm through with lego! They're only focused on licensed and expensive sets!
@@TritonBrickRailway Make your own! Buy from other brands! I've seen some great sets from other brands!
Doing something occasionally or for yourself can be a tribute. Mass producing stuff and selling it online is a business that is leeching on someone else brand and you just can not do it. It is just that simple.
That is not what this lawsuit was about. It was about selling customised Lego parts.
There was no mass producing stuff. HA Bricks used 99% original LEGO parts in the train sets. Also TLG didn't want any compromise and went straigth to court to make an example out of HA Bricks.
Meanwhile the big offenders, the clone brands, walk free. Why? Because they can defend themselves in court economically. Which makes "our beloved" TLG:a bully imo.
So according to your logic mechanics arent allowed to paint their customers car another color, put on some new fenders, maybe change out the seats? Also, it was never stated he wasnt allowed to resell the LEGO as custom building kits. That was never the issue.
how is it leeching when you buying this product and clearly state that its not sold by lego company. If there is market for custom printed part and kits, why not. Lego is a lil bish
@@Rula2020 I know right. In that case wouldnt literally any store be leeching off of other brands as wel? Or wouldnt that mean that companies that make food are leeching off of farmers?
HA bricks should stop using Lego bricks and switch to alternatives, it might be cheaper for customers too! LEGO NO THANKS!