Factorio 1.0 Entry Level to Megabase 3, Ep 3: RED SCIENCE & TURRET CREEP - Guide, Tutorial
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- You've been waiting for it: the premiere guide/playthrough for beginners and experts alike! Tips & tricks as we play, upping your Factorio experience! Support Katherine on Patreon: / katherineofsky
Time to start Red Science (automation science packs), work some turret creep, and place down the mall!
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What's your favorite way to combat biters?
Nukes! :D
Cars
the new spider :P
Build a row of turrets, go forwards, build another row, repeat
Turret creeping! and/or artillery-trains for more lategame.
Yknow, this game is fun, but it can be really dry and oriented toward a very logical and bland approach to things. You inject a lot of personality and spirit into these videos and I think that's lovely♥ Thank you for taking the time to make this series, its been great to follow along and get a new tips, even as an intermediate player.
Watch out everyone - KoS is back and this time she's not FLUFFING ABOUT!
I like the community of factorio ... learning from each other the little tips and tricks that make life that little bit easier.
I like it because unlike most game communities it completely lacks any toxicity and its so nice to just be able to interact in a purely positive way :)
@@hoomanp3766 It is a really cooperative group. :-)
@@hoomanp3766 have you seen open mutliplayer servers? where random people join to make a factory? the amount of cancer when someone doesn't make an efficient design is enormous, don't get me started on the random who join and throw granades into power gen.
@@cultistofdarkness1661 I've been on a few multiplayer servers and the worst I've seen so far is constructive criticism ie 'that design is bad because * * but if you * * it works alot better'
@@hoomanp3766 another game with an awesome community is from the depths they have an awesome community and almost no toxicity
19:30 Your coal lines need to be merged better :D
As a new player, I'm really enjoying this video series. Thanks so much for your clear explanations of what you're doing. One problem I have... I was following along very well until you slapped down this giant blueprint out of nowhere and my brain exploded. Is there a video where you go through this "mall" blueprint in detail?
I talk about it as I go through the series. THe Mall isn't necessary, but people always request it. It makes all the buildings for the factory. Otherwise, you can make small assembly lines for the items needed.
@@KatherineOfSky Awesome, thanks. I just set up my first real smelting array and I'm pretty damn excited about it. It's a revelation.
@@KenMobFandango Woohoo! I envy you: being at the beginning of the adventure! Have fun!
At minute 42:20 Katherine says she wants to make 2 red sciences per second which for you would need at least 13.4 or 14 machines. Only placing 10 of them yields in 1.5 per second, which are 90 per minute.
When you play Factorio you simplify the math... and right now the speed of the assembly machines doesn't matter because they get upgraded. The only thing that matters is that they are all the same. So eventually we will get blue machines that craft at 1.25 speed... and I still call it "1 per second" because it simplifies the mental math. You will see that the research flies by, and we don't need more than what I have built.
Ms OfSky, thank you for this series. I just picked up Factorio when it hit 1.0 and quickly found myself having no clue what I should be doing or how to go about doing it. Your series has been straight-up coaching me through the early stages and I could not be more grateful.
Keep making 'em, we'll keep watching 'em! :)
Have fun!
35:18 - ooh, I got a shoutout. Thanks! And you're welcome! :)
Loving this series! thank you!
The pollution looks like a heart ❤ 30:40
I'm so glad you started a new series!
very much enjoying the new series!
I love these, thanks for explaining everything and making it entertaining!!
Another wonderful day, thanks KoS!
Well, miss "Goddess mode", as I´ve just bought this game (thanks to your tips), this new beginner series of yours is going to be amazing for a fresh start. Awesome! Thank you (again, again....) ;-D
Have fun!
Lovely video as always KoS! Being playing along with this series playing and it makes this game feel more alive.
If I remember correctly you can save a click when setting input/output priority for splitters by simply clicking what side should get priority, instead of first having to check the checkbox.
I know it's a very minor thing, but every small thing helps when it comes to injuries.
Watching this is great fun, even as someone who has spent a decent amount of time playing Factorio already! Keep up the good work!
Hey, thrilled to be watching this, thank you so much :) I've been a fan for years but haven't played in a long time so its great to see all the new stuff in such a fun lp! Take care of yourself, and thank you again!
I am no stranger to Factorio (but I am by no means an expert player) but I can never stop myself from watching all your "Entry Level to Mega Base" series'. They're always so good. Also, I have to give your first one credit for really getting me into the game. I can't wait to follow your adventures in this new entry as well
QoL tip: dragging powerpoles over ghost powerpoles does what you want.
This is a really nice series for a newbie like me! :D
Watching your videos has always helped me so much with my own factorio games. Thank you so much and keep up the great videos!
Looking forward to the next episode. I've been playing along, but I've caught up with you. Loving your new shopping mall!
cant wait for the next episode. as a beginner i learnt so many new things everytime
This is the first time I watch one of your factorio series, the mall is damn impressive, I have to admit
I love you and your personality. Thanks for making these videos. Be well!
I enjoy watching and comparing my experiences with this map. We did very different setups, but both very good. Keep'em coming!
I love Factorio, almost the same I love your voice!
thanks for such smart series!
Christmas is better thanks to you!
I've not played most of the games you post videos on, but I love watching your let's plays. They help me de-stress when I'm worried, and the fun and excitement you express when you play is infectious.
Been following your videos and series for years! You've really helped me in building better, more efficient bases and in the process made me a true convert to the 'Main Bus' principle :) Loving the new series but make sure your taking care of yourself! Wishing you all the best
I'm just getting back to Factorio for the launch as so many others, and a nice series to repeat on all the little tips and tricks there are to make the game smoother is just what I needed, thanks Katherine!
Great videos. Factorio is such a great game and I only just came back to it recently, can't wait to start a new factory. Ive got quite a lot of hours in it but i'm still learning new tips and tricks on it from your videos.
you are really helping me out getting into this game with this series. soo inspiring and soo educating. thank you! ps. i could fall asleep listening your voice, so smooth and calming
I have created a macro: repeat pressing "z" (drop item) for ten times with 5 ms between actions. With coal in mu hand i hoover over furnace, press a button on my mouse which is bound to the macro and it fills automatically 10 coal. Can make the macro as big as you want :)
We love you KoS.Take care of yourself.
Sounds interesting! I'll check it out!
For deconstructing things in the same spirit I recommend (and use!) MouseoverDeconstruct
by unhott
Another very simple mod that has quality of life without being (too) cheaty.
Enjoy! 😄
I have roughly 1k hrs of factorio under my 'belt' and so you'd think I'd have a competent grasp on the game. Decided to follow along with this series and already I'm grabbing tidbits of info that are either helpful in speeding up my builds or are just completely novel and new ways of doing things I never thought about doing.
The awesome thing about the Factorio community is that we all share ideas with each other and collectively make our factories better!
Thank you very much for your Videos and this time I will follow this complete series. It's nice to hear your calming voice and you realy chill me down in the evening. 🙏🏽
Enjoy!
I’m a massive fan of games like these. I’ve switched over from satisfactory after 300 hours and love this game so far.
I’ve played factorio for under 7 hours at the moment and have played the tutorial and it’s terrible because it doesn’t really help.
This series is helping me out so much, including tips and help for things that the tutorial miss like efficiently, clean layouts and prioritising the right things
Hi Ryan! Glad you are enjoying the videos! :-)
I always love love love your Factorio Megabase series! Did you know that if you drag power poles over ghost power polls, they will only be placed on the ghosts? It only works for power poles (and I think only if you start the click on the ghost), but it's such a quality of life improvement! It makes building blue prints much easier, because if you start out with the power poles many other things just fall in place.
Yep! :-)
Really fun series! I've been following the 0.17 Entry to Megabase 2 and just got to oil. Then found out they completely overhauled oil soon after!
Just found your channel after getting back into Factorio due to 1.0, awesome stuff! Keep it up
Thanks! Enjoy!
Thank you so much for your hard work! I really enjoy watching you play, you’re so calm and relax. Please don’t over work yourself though. Cheers!
Thank you so much!
This series is a wellspring of knowledge for newbies like myself. Awesome stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey. Your content is great! I was struggling a lot to understand the game and your lighter and fun way of describing it helps a lot.
Glad I could help! Welcome!
I decided to follow on with you playthrough! I got the world string and I've been playing along with your videos. It's been a fun way to learn about the game, and learn things like belt saturation. Thanks for making these videos :)
Glad I could help!
I had a couple of runs for the rocket but each time my factory ended up being a complete mess so it was easier to give up and start over than to reconstruct everything. Your tutorials and megabase series are so helpful, now l know how I should approach the game. Thanks a lot!
I've been white-knuckling my way through this game for 50 hours, and each time I get to fluids my build is such a giant mess and I'm too overwhelmed to continue. I'm really enjoying learning how to do it right! Thanks!
You're welcome! Enjoy!
I love the concept of turret creep. Though there is just something fun about doing donuts around a biter nest with the car and spamming grenades at it
I don't comment much, but I will chime in and say I adore your videos, and I am loving this series! Keep up the great work KoS!
Thank you so much! Enjoy!
For turret creep I usually use mods but for vanilla a handy tip is that you can daisy-chain them with inserters if you run a power line out to the biter camp.
Thanks to your tutorial I was able to get the Iron throne achievement on my first day of playing :D
Grats!
Thank you.
My 2 cents on fighting biters early game:
1) When turret creeping, as KoS pointed out, you run out of ammo FAST if you drop half-stacks or full stacks of ammo on your turrets. Personally that's why I instead use Z to drop 1-10 packs of ammo on the turrets right as I place them instead.
2) I dunno about you guys but I really hate how the game prioritizes putting the ammo you pick up from disassembling turrets into your ammo belt instead of your inventory. Just for this reason I'll usually use the shotgun instead of the SMG as my early game weapon of choice. That way me and my turrets use different ammo types so there's no chance of them getting mixed up. To avoid my character picking up regular ammo into their ammo belt I'll also drop the pistol on the ground the second I get my shotgun.
3) Regarding the shotgun: One annoying "feature" it has is being able to blind fire, which can end up damaging your precious structures if you accidentally press spacebar while working. To avoid this, I actually place two shotguns on my weapon belt, but keep only one of them loaded with ammo. Whenever I'm not fighting I'll just pick up the ammo from my currently "active" shotgun and drop it on the inactive one. This way I can run around with an unloaded shotgun and the moment I actually need to shoot something I can just press TAB to equip the loaded one.
EDIT:
4) Oh also I set up my shortcuts so I can change the active shortcut bar with shift+mouse wheel. This way I can easily switch from having shortcut bar #1 as my main to having bar #0. Since bar #0 is usually hidden yet easily accessed, I use it as my combat bar, placing in particular my turrets, ammo and repair packs on slots 1 2 and 3. This way I can easily use them during combat without having to click. This makes turret creeping a lot easier as I can just go: 1] Press 1 to make turrets the active item. 2] Click to place turret on the ground. 3] Without moving the mouse, press 2 to make ammo the active item. 4] Press Z a couple of times to quickly drop some ammo on the turret. And since my mouse cursor is on the turret this whole time, I can easily switch to my repair packs and repair it, or right click it to disassemble it, or drop more ammo on it, etc.
Informative series as usual. I was going to suggest the QoL mod that shows when miners are depleted but it seems it was integrated in the base game that's sweet. Small oversight because the second row of coal isn't connected to the belt ;-) Keep up the good work and i hope your hands don't cause you too much pain. Take care of yourself as well.
Many more people out there need to watch your videos to realize what a perfect game Factorio really is. Perfect games need perfect videos. Thanks a lot KoS. 💖 BTW: The sadness is real....
I love your content, I've been watching for a couple of years now. your exploration and builds helped my game play too. Thanks for the content and the great tutorials!
I saw your game play in Satisfactory with the train setup , that was awesome! I bought the game after watching that playlist. Satisfactory is a completely different game from when that playthrough was done. WOW, completely, you should go back and check it out. Pipes is a game changer. That adds SO much more filler content in a already massive game. I would definitely tuning into more game play of Satisfactory.
I would love to, but my hands are not well enough to play. (Satisfactory is VERY bad on the hands: worse than Factorio)
@@KatherineOfSky
I get that, from watching your game play to what is in the game. Especially with pipes, you could very well create your own jump puzzles to get around your factory.
I enjoy your content and videos! Every week, without fail I will watch them! Please keep them coming and thank you for the hard work!
300 hrs in before I multiplayered another 100 in before I modded and about 50 after that before I looked up anyone. Glad this is the community I found.
Welcome!
just adding some more love
I'm really liking this series. I've been playing Factorio for a little bit figuring stuff out on my own. Watching you play I feel a bit like the apes in "2001: A Space Odyssey" when they find the monolith. Inspired to evolve, lol.
Enjoy the game! You are at the most enviable part of the journey: the figuring stuff out and innovating is one of the most fun parts for me!
20:41 - Unfortunately, the description for Nano Explosives in a misnomer. It doesn't give nano bots the ability to replace cliff explosives, it allows them to use cliff explosives, much like normal bots. You need to have cliff explosives actually in your inventory for this ability to be used. There is talk on the Nanobots mod page to either change this ability to either require an entire full capsule, or to just fix the description to better explain how it actually works. The comments go both ways, so maybe it'll be a config option which way it goes.
I like your planning ahead. My base always ends up looking like a mess.
Love your Factorio stuff!
Watch out though, remember how you choose your location on the map - there's an ocean in the north, you don't really want your main bus going that way if you want to keep extending it.
There's plenty of room for the pre-megabase
24:00 The pollution component is actually based on the total amount of pollution you produce, not the amount absorbed by spawners. This doesn't make sense to me, so I turned it off in my game.
Thanks for all these great videos, I really like how you stop and take a moment to thoroughly explain the things you’re doing (learned how you can press ‘q’ to change what your cursor will drop).
I noticed you don’t use the Z drop technique though.
If you hold z on your keyboard and left-click and hold, you can drop a single item on things like turrets :)
I use Z drop for coal into coal miners, but I think it's not terribly useful for turrets since they go through magazines so quickly. Much faster to just drop half a stack in there.
KatherineOfSky that’s a fair point, and I forgot to include the context of my comment - @22:55 you were trying to get all your turrets with some ammo. Really liking the videos, thanks again for the time and care that goes into these!
Your base at red science is already so much more better and more organised than my base at yellow science.... Also, I had no idea the splitters can be used to merge two lanes into one, I thought it was just one lane splitting into two!
there's another factor in the biter evolution, certain military techs will trigger upgrades to the enemies as well.
for example (ime, i may be way off) weapon damage research will buff worm damage, and shooting speed will affect the types of biters that can spawn. the overall military tech levels will buff their spawn rate and toughness
Not according to the wiki: wiki.factorio.com/Enemies#Evolution
you are amazing!
I know this is an old video, but I'm new to the whole factory genre games. I've been playing Satisfactory and have been thinking about trying another factory game. This one being the grandfather, I've been doing a little researching to see if I might like to play. What I have found is your video series to be very enjoyable to watch and very informative. Glad to have found your channel.
Welcome! I've played all the factory games, and I keep coming back to Factorio. There's nothing that matches the complexity and huge amount of community content for when you have memeorized vanilla recipes :-)
Finally someone who explains properly how this game works.
I am not so good with watching people play but man the way you play and talk is really amazing and wonderful I love this game and love your voice and the you talk good luck kath our love from kuwait keep the eps coming we can't stop watching you play me and the wife hehe
Glad you both enjoy the videos!
Love your content... From south africa
Hi! Enjoy!
Don't worry about nanobot explosives, they were rebalanced and require actual explosives to work, by themselves all they do is allow nanobots to use blue explosives.
Hi KoS, I'm glad that you are back :) Not sure if you know that, but miners have new light indicator (green, yellow and red) and that indicates if its working (green), waiting for free spot/belt (yellow) and depleated (red) as you can see in 32:46
Yes, they do. It is unfortunately really hard to see during the day, better at night (if there are no lights around.) At a distance, it is VERY difficult to see, alas.
Love it :)
Love the series
Tip for new players: don't use others blueprints, design things yourself that is the best way to learn.
While I tend to agree, some blueprints at the start can be useful to ease the very steep learning curve required by factorio. Seeing how others have built power plants etc can be very useful.
I mean, I tried to use blueprints but I am so dumb that I do not know where to paste, so I need to grab paper and pencil and try to make my own :( (and fail)
@@KhanterWinters It is just practice ....we all started where you are. Given time, you will get familiar with how things go together and build excellent factories and blueprints.
The game provides you with the backdrop for design: you don't need paper. Just place things, built belts, see where you can move things around. (If the biters are too much, start a game on Peaceful, or no biters). Use the factorio calculators to see machine ratios, and work from those numbers (if you want to optimize)
Oh! English again. I meant that I tried to use others blueprints. Like the long hash code but, have not learn where to paste.
spagetti grows! SPAGETTI MUST GROW.
Do you have a video of how you build the mall? I like to follow along so i understand the concept of what it is doing.
You can put upgrade planners into your blueprint books now, which I find _super_ helpful for these upgradable blueprints like your mall
That's a great idea!
Hey love the videos so helpful, so nice to watch someone good at the game. Which mod/ setting is letting you stack/queue your next research?
It's vanilla. It is unlocked when you launch your first research or in map settings. (There's a console command, but it disables achievements)
Another great Mod you should look at is LTN (Logistic Train Network) - I think this is more or less crucial for any kind of megabase.
I'm thankful for these videos as I'm about 3-4 days old to the game... the biters got too hardy for me to push back and my base finally got up graded to electric smelting 4 is plenty for cooper and I got like 16 iron has fluctuating needs. Big issues came from getting blue (research) bottles and doing anything with oil. I toggle different needs with plastic and sulfate. Just started blue chip and some battery (chem factory) building. Very limited. And occasional power issues ... solar panels don't do enough... well looking for advice..
With solar panels, you need MASSES of them... like huge tracts of land devoted to them. Steam power is much better if you have a limited land area.
Agree with you about making your own stuff, I'm quite new in the game (about 100 hours), it took me around 60 hours to finish my first run without watching a single tutorial, and of course my base was a completly mess, I miss a lot of stuff like using blueprints, nuclear power, train networks, main bus, mall, etc.
On my second run I incorporated more stuff, still without tutorials, and now on my 3rd run I'm just beginning to watch gameeplays and tutorials, but I don't think I'll use any mod yet.
3rd or so day in I've long given upon DIY... I couldn't get anything with oil working no trains running, 3 biters nests killed me over 7 times and they are getting so nasty I built 6 + turret for structure with gate together close enough to attack the nests. When 5 or more spitting worms turrets have slow and melt your face off spit.... and I blew some 3k rounds of assorted standard and AP rounds .. and they still destroy 3 other turrets even with me repairing.... I don't know how people deal with them... they're just getting bigger and more obnoxious...
Thanks Katherine for all these videos. Just discovered them. Is there a story to how you got this screen name?
When adding ammo to turrets you can hotkey the ammo and use z to drop individual pieces onto the turret, about 5 key presses quickly might be easier than getting a mod or another method. Specifically for turret creeping you only need 5-10 ammo per turret I think.
Five demo pieces is definitely not enough. I also don't wanna have that many key presses; I feel like a right click is a much better option
3rd video in a row. It's 2am and I have to wake up at 7am. Why are you doing this to me? Not cool Katherine, not cool.
Hey Katherine, i'm waiting for some logic/circuit network in your base :)
I know this is a somewhat dated video at this point, but possibly worth pointing out anyway to new players - evolution has nothing to do with how much pollution gets into biter bases (24 mins-ish). The pollution element is how much is produced, regardless of whether it ever reaches biters or not.
9:00 It seems like those right hand miners should just drop on the right side of the belt, rather than splittering together.
But my favorite biter combat is combat bots. It does require military science, but even if you handcraft the 100 needed, it is essentially like carrying out 5 extra SMGs with AP ammo, more with more follower bot research.
Edit: but in early game (before military science), I find SMG + grenades more fun that turret creep, though I do like a few turrets i can retreat to.
What I tend to do is set up a strong point with turrets as close to the nest as I think I can get without aggroing them. I use 2-4 turrets and place 15 or so mags in them. Then I bait the existing mob into the kill zone to wipe them out and head right back to wipe out the smaller mob that just respawned. Shooting the close ones with the SMG while tossing grenades at the stationary targets feels pretty nice. I don't like the slowdown from the spitter acid, though. The game's combat feels like you're either mopping the floor with the monsters, or you get stuck on something you can't see in the chaos and end up shredded in half a second. There isn't much of a sweet spot.
I love you(r videos)
From "I don't need lights" in the first episode, to "I think I forgot about lights!" in the third. :D
Boxes. You need several buffer boxes in a belt line (with inserters) to take up the excess product. At the moment you're running backwards and forwards collecting a few metal plates and watching production stop when you should be emptying the line and storing the plates in boxes for easy collection later. I've been interested in your methodical approach but also a *little* bit vexed you're not buffering your production lines with boxes (and boxes and boxes).
You must be new to the game. Buffering is NOT a recommended strategy since buffers just delay knowledge of a shortfall. If you weren't aware, furnaces hold a full stack of product, so they act as chests. Watch the way I play and just see the "scarcity" that happens ... ( _or doesn't_ )
this is such next level stuff. how did you even come up with this stuff in the beginning?
I've had a lot of practice with the game 😄
I think the major problem with daisy-chaining labs early in the game is the inserter's insistence on trying to maintain a level of 2 science packs in the labs. This can mean that science labs are left empty at the beginning of the chain while there are unused packs sitting at the end of the chain. It's not a huge problem, but early on it slows research down a bit.
a suggestion for your build ... yes build a copper smelt line above the copper ... and run the stuff to the bus BUT dont expand this portion here ... use this as a starter base ... even the power setup stop it there ... use this power setup to power the main bus fed resources and manufacture ... then if there Seperate power system fails the first one will jump start their power feeders BUT you still get your basic builds and some basic ore ... that way you can expand proper base properly instead of trying to squeeze and shoe horn it into a space smaller than it needs
instead of stealing coal before it gets stolen for iron ... split the coal OFF the iron belt and send it onto the copper ones ... then it gets used twice
30 miners ... hmm say mine every time you place one and you will be a seagull from finding nemo lol
Hey KoS i don't think that spliters works with that priority like that. The right priority is just for right side of belt but no for right side of spliter. I'am not really sure but i think it.
Build the car, and drive circles around them while keeping that space pressed :)
while yelling 'Get some!!!' repeatedly.
Up until you hit a rock, a cliff, or small pond
Katherine, I wonder if you would consider doing a 100% completion run, where you play on the hardest difficulty and get all achievements that are possible in the game (unless for example there are two that colide, such as, the lazy one where you don’t craft in inventory vs one where you must craft x amount in inventory, in that situation you go for the one that is the hardest)
I will not do that kind of run. To get the early train achievement while going for the 8hour achieve requires serious speedrunning tactics and hundreds of hours of practice. There are some people on Twitch you can watch if you are interested.
😱😅 didn’t realize that there would be such hard achievements, I remembered most of them being about production and quantity, or the one where you can craft from the inventory o et a certain amount! That makes sense then! Thanks
@@dragonlloux You're welcome! Most people have difficulty with the 8 hour run, so we periodically do MMO streams for people to get the achievement!