Drinker's Open Bar #5 (feat. Nerdrotic, Robert Meyer Burnett and Midnight's Edge)
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- čas přidán 20. 11. 2021
- Join MauLer, myself and our panel of guests as we talk Ghostbusters Afterlife (and I give my initial thoughts on the film), drama behind the scenes at Lucasfilm, the failing Disney MCU, Star Trek Discovery and everything else happening this week.
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Timestamp:
2:20 Star trek Discovery S04
25:40 Doctor Who
38:15 Superchats
44:20 Video games expositions
52:05 Disney news / event horizon
1:07:50 Spiderman trailer 2
1:17:30 Andre leaves / Spiderman trailer 2
1:24:30 superchats / Mad Max / Queens gambit
1:35:07 Ghostbusters
1:47:50 Gary leaves / Matrix 4
1:56:01 modern film making
2:15:05 superchats
2:24:40 RMB leaves / superchats
2:38:03 Sicario / superchats
Thank you!
As always you are on legendary status.
Keep the good job 👍
Gratitude \m/
Legeeeeeeeend
You’re a good man
Robert can become a rugular far as I'm concerned. He has a really good way of explaining his issue with something that is clear and makes sense.
I've always been a fan of his he's good natured a classic liberal not a demigod extremist ideologue the man had the gift of gab
You should go back and watch some classic collider heroes with rmb and jon schnepp they were great together. Rip schnepp.
Just remember that RMB spent an entire livestream talking about how truly grateful he was for Kathleen Kennedy's body of work, and that we were privileged to have her vision of StarWars. He honestly thinks she is one of the greatest producers who ever lived, rather than someone's wife who got a job as PA with Steven Spielberg.
The man is a master of cognitive dissonance and routinely uses his politics and personal relationships through which to view film productions.
Robert is enjoyable whether I agree with him on a topic or not. He seems like a genuinely nice, good guy.
They should make Fantastic Three, about the actually interesting characters Reed, Ben, and Johnny, and leave out the pointless bore Susan, whom no one likes.
My aunt took my brother and me to see Raiders. He and I had no idea what to expect. Afterwards, my aunt looked at us and said, "Do you want to see it again?" Back in line we went. Awesome.
Rewatchability truly is the mark of great content
It leaves no room for relying on gimmicks… when you remove the element of surprise, does the underlying quality still shine?
That’s the real test
I like the darker setup in your room, drinker. You need a cool Irish pub background on the interface, you know like Gary's got the map of middle earth in the background of his streams.
What a great panel and discussion. This held my attention and was literally thought provoking . A great examination of todays writing and lack of creative effort.
One of the best talking heads shows on youtube
Glad to hear you enjoyed the queen’s gambit drinker. The series is visually beautiful and no more complex than it needs to be.
Agree with Drinker, never understood why Ghostbusters 2 got the flack it got. Just watched it again earlier this morning and loved every minute of it.
Cuz it's just a lamer version of the first one. C'mon man.
Like it's not cancer, but it's not great either - and that was back when we were all allowed to have decent standards. Through the lens of current year? It's a fucking masterpiece. XD
The last two movies that truly surprised me were the first "Matrix" and "Dark City". I went into both with zero knowledge and was totally blown away. I think the Internet has spoiled movies. And movies just aren't really experimenting anymore. Just constant redoing of the formula.
because of PC culture movies now lecture ppl instead of entertaining them.
And instead of messages woven into a story you have box ticking woven into a story.
It wasn't as groundbreaking as either movie you cited, but a few years ago Moon gave me some of the same vibes.
The Lighthouse surprised me too but that's not really the same sort of movie.
Speaking of American Psycho, you should get Literature Devil on a Happy Hour to talk about it.
Just saw Ghostbusters....first movie in a theater in 2021, and didn't see one in 2020.
Worth the wait. For Harold.
Hail! Great panel for this After Hours. Well, it always is to be fair. I need more Burnett in these streams. He's a nice balance for the rest of the guys.
"Gaz" is the name of Gary and Az's Hollywood Super Couple. 😂
I'd listen to RMB read the phonebook... such a great guest.
2:12:27 my favorite movie of all-time
Drinker really needs to watch it
Talking of True Lies, I was surprised to find that a sequel was to made(script done) around 2001 and after 9/11, they cancelled it feeling that terrorism won't be considered a joke anymore .You know how the tone was in the previous one about that.
Thank you for this content on Sunday this panel should be a regular show.
Sincerely praying that universe.
RMB? I'll watch the whole thing.
Very much enjoy your focus on the need for both compelling characters AND great storytelling to make movies better. I mean, what else is there? That said, your reviews, Drinker and MauLer, are entertaining and insightful. And agreed on including Robert as a regular (no shade to your other guests) for his thought-provoking perspective around story structure and the life-altering experience that movies can be. Keep up the awesome work. Y'all are critical media legends.
I started watching Farscape after your video thank you Drinker i had a great time watching it
The original Dark Horse 'Aliens vs. Predator' comic series is awesome
Just like in the 90's the Star Wars project with Shadows of the Empire. They told a story through a novel a comic, trading cards and they all told a part of the story and respected the other platforms without trying to retcon each other.
Great panel, great chat, great open bar, thank you all.
This is the best panel. Ever
Burnett's comments about Amélie seemed to be everywhere
and in any catalog, like it was the only film ever made in France and by the French.
I decided to have Netflix drop a copy on me and much to my surprise, I found it's
whimsical style enjoyable and holding my attention.
Worth a view by anyone wanting to get away from the current fare being offered by
Hollywood.
Yeah I remember watching it in my high school French class, it's a very charming, cozy little film.
The first Wonder Woman was successful because of Zack Snyder. He wrote it, he produced it, he cast the led, he gave it that awesome theme song.
Ya... it is not good.
All my favorite people on one stream! Gushing!!!
In the 1980s a friend of mine went to work in the design department at British Aerospace. On his first day, the first thing he saw on the wall of the design department was a poster of the starship Enterprise. All those guys working there wanted to be Scotty.
Love Amile, watched it on a library DVD!
The last time a movie blew me away because I went in with no information was Mother!. My friend took me to see it because he was interested and it was a wonderful experience.
Making games easy and accessible is just their way of excusing dumbed-down gameplay, and level design that is large and good looking, but mostly devoid of anything useful.
Strongly agree how do you feel about games like Batman Arkham asylum where it's essentially very dumb down combat and you're just watching animation it's always had the feel of quick time events am I completely off base?
Drinker, how would you feel about a segment where you folks talk about the modern state of war movies, like 2010s till now.
Most of the big films that really blew me away like Hacksaw Ridge, 1917, American Sniper, Lone Survivor... There really hasn't been too many shite war movies in recent years that I can think of.
19:59 It sounds like The Peggy Hill in Space Show, written, directed, and starring Peggy Hill. And as long as the Peggy Hills of the World are making the shows, the excrement will never stop.
3:00:37 I have seen someone comment that his sister really enjoyed the web swinging in the original Spiderman movies which was lacking in the newer ones.
All the accents are making my head spin! Where is az when you need him?! He would clear this up!
Someone should get the rights to Star Trek and give it to RMB as the overseer of it all.
He can be the lead assistant behind the RLM guys.
Fantastic stream. Thanks again, much appreciated !
One Piece has been going on for almost 22-23 years on tv show
I just watched GB II again. It's a very good movie if you cancel all the noise and allow it to continue where GB left off...
Gary two handing that coffee cup like a babe!😍
Really interesting around 1:50:00 when Gary checks out, RMB asks what MauLer & CD are excited about. And there is a genuine moment of inner groans from everyone thats palpable. MauLer mentions how the next Terminator *could* be incredible, but his left brain and right brain understand the duality of the topic, and admits his pessimism.
So Matt Reeves has said that he actually likes walking into projects that are on the rocks or at their low points, because you get an opportunity to do things differently (aka how he wants to make the movie) because its already near-failure, so I assume the suits back the hell up. He’s certainly done it a few times. - and he’s directing The Batman.
I found Avengers game, sealed in a carrier bag in Asda carpark..i thought “my lucks to a change for the better”
I traded it the next day for £8 at cex and then had to pay £5 for parking and then petrol cost too.. i ended up taking a loss.
My 2 bits:
1) In Spidey FFH, Fury was not Fury the entire film (he was Talos playing Fury). Im getting that same vibe from Dr Strange in Spidey NWH.
2) The Eternals is the wrong format for 10+ characters. Eternals was Marvels Watchmen moment (which i wont watch because its not Alan Moore’s show), it really could’ve been a season of slower paced stories about these ageless beings living for millennia. Instead it comes off as a shoehorned in, grafted on afterthought, spliced into current mcu continuity.
Star trek is a literal reflection of the new writers and the new fans. What a horrible future.
Literally not literal
But yeah, figuratively, very true
Saw GB 3 last night, I am very happy that is how nostalgia and new are done right.
And that ending yeah I teared up badly :-D , thank god I live in Germany and English Viewings are very empty compared to the German dubbed ones viewings.
Thoroughbred is a good Anna-Taylor Joy movie. A must watch, Drinker!
I watched that movie earlier today, have a few questions guess will have to wait!
Did anyone notice Gozer's weakness?
Ash vs evil dead is fantastic
I'm really looking forward to go see Ghostbusters with my dad
The best tutorial was the old spiderman tutorials narrated by Bruce Campbell...he doesn't care what your doing as hes eating a sandwich at one point
Thank goodness you lot watch this shit so I don’t have to…. This fellowship is worth it’s weight in gold and saves one a shit load of time!
Yes they are doing a very honourable and necessary public service by vetting shite! Time is the most valuable thing you can give someone and these guys literally save you from wasting your time!
And also they appreciate all the good entertainment that has been made and it's like you can enjoy it all over again listening to their insights and opinions!!
@@andrewgriffin2107 I couldn’t have replied better!
Re the Star Wars conversation: I had a bad feeling when I heard that Disney had bought SW. And then I started seeing Disney parade floats with stormtroopers dancing around and whatnot, and I was like, seriously? I'd imagine that's the only reason that stormtroopers were a big presence in the movies- because Disney wanted to capitalize on that image. And so of course they had to have a reason for there being stormtroopers in TFA, and bam, we get a whole retread of A New Hope instead of a continuation of the story.
Re Dr Who I refuse to watch " Jody ". The only episode I will watch is her last and I will toast her demise! Seems like you had the same idea Drinker 27:30
Love these. Funny videos.
Best CZcamsrs right here
Great panel
Agree, "Never let me go" is awesome, definitely don't read anything and watch it, you won't be disappointed.
Yeah, I knew nothing about it the first time I watched it and was blown away by it. It got me interested in Kazuo Ishiguro's books as well.
Best panel ever!
Fantasy has gone from external to an internal focus. From experiencing a new place through the lens of a familiar character to experiencimg the writer's internal wish fullfillment. Soap operas have more reality.
The Fast and the Furious WAS based on a pre-existing property. It was a reboot of a movie from the 50s.
It's like Christmas going to see a new film!
This was a great stream.
Event Horizon + Orbital. Love it.
28:28 "has there been any franchise that was awful for a decade and recovered?" good question Mr. Frey. i got a tickle with that one, but it's escaping me if it exists.
The only way to save Doctor Who is to have a massive hiatus, come back in 4 years, and have a brand new doctor wake up from where Jody’s doctor started, and say that her entire run was a delusional nightmare the doctor had, due to regeneration.
You just have to outright decanonize all this sh*t, you CAN’T let this stay canon.
Give me any day of the week, like series from the 1990s such as Babylon 5.
Ghostbusters Afterlife was very good.
Everybody just pretends that Ghostbusters 2016 never happened. It is "the movie that must not be named." We should do the same to the Star Wars sequel trilogy; just pretend like it doesn't exist and film another sequel trilogy.
Way ahead of you. But yeah, SW fans are more than happy to erase it from memory if the next writers want to just rewrite it. It doesnt logically follow canon so it cant be in the same universe anyway.
The reason there shouldn't be an easy mode is because the point of the experience is to figure out how to overcome the challenge. If you're failing, you're doing it wrong, and the game shouldn't just let you win when you are making all the mistakes that should result in defeat.
It would be like wanting a test to have the questions to your answers.
Or wanting your targets to move to where you're aiming at a firing range, instead of improving your aim.
Or wanting your martial arts instructor to let you do all the moves wrong, but give you a black belt anyway.
Or get the job, despite botching the interview.
I thought you were referring to the Korean Kingdom zombies series. It's great.
2:09:15 Robert saying Kingpin from the Daredevil show will be in Spiderman? That is how I am reading him.
These guys gets it..
'lockout' wuz gud... watch it for a good time. pretty standard stuff.
V good movie
I had a conversation with my mate tonight. I literally said, I've had no excitement at all for anything, video game wise. The last time I had real excitement was ff7 remake. And I've realized this next one is elden ring. One of my favourite games is shadow of the colossus
A great group of guys and Robert Meyer Burnett.
Loved listening to RMB get all misty eyed n shit about old school Hollywood, reminds me of listening to my uncle going on about some Golden Age movie or actor only he remembers or gives a shit about. Don’t think anyone’s going to get that way about fucking Daisy Ridley or something.
Mid-credit AND after-credit scenes in Ghostbusters: Afterlife, guys! 👻
Where you living under a rock in 1999 my friend?
I was 27 years old and had spent almost the entire 90s in Trinidad.
And I saw an interview with the wachowskis saying that they wanted to recreate an anime they had just seen into real life..
Anime they were referencing was Ghost in the Shell which I had never seen or heard of at the time.. two clips of it aired during their Matrix interview.
And they did not decide to recreate ghostintheshell but rather they made an entirely new movie using an anime aesthetic-. The Matrix looks like an anime brought to life
I feel like the special affects in ghost busters 2 is better than half of the stuff today.
i have all four dk aliens airbrush series (back cover makes another image when all four comics are in you 'not' greasy hands.
i also got enthusiastic about it all and got the dk aliens v predator series and the other subsequent issues of aliens (not airbrushed, but great art and lore).
the AvP movies were sad and the subsequent aliens movies totally missed an opportunity.
I like how drinker will disagree with and debate his guests, unlike on Friday night tights, where everyone basically repeats the same talking points.
I genuinely held out hope for Strange New Worlds being the great last hope for Star Trek, based on not entirely hating Pike and Number One in STD's 2nd season and the Short Treks, but man, that trailer killed ALL my optimism. Cadet Uhura? Nurse Chapel? Some distant relative of Khan? Even Anson Mount, previously so excited about this role, suddenly looks like he can't wait to be free from his contract. The people making it are creatively bankrupt, and although none of them are making Star Trek, neither are they able to step outside of All The Old Things. It's kind of embarrassing. And with the budgets Star Trek has now, we SHOULD be getting the best Star Trek ever made.
RMB earned a sub.
Damn. Robert Meyer Burnett was right! Just announced Kirk. I'm also relatively certain he'll be "baseline bisexual" to quote Mike McMahan, Lower Decks showrunner.
Does anyone know if either Mauler or Drinker have reactions to Eternals on here or Efap? Been looking and can’t find anything
One of my favorite book series is Redwall. No humans at all, just woodland creatures.
Redwall is great stuff for all ages, good call
To add to RMB's question of new original hit franchises: no matter what you think about the quality, I thought the Conjuring movies and its universe (with all its awful spin-offs) was pretty successful, is still going on after almost a decade, and it became a household name among cinema audiences.
@Breen Le Thot The general audience must know, though, they keep putting "from the creators of The Conjuring" in the trailers of like 40 movies.
ICO + ECCO... those were the days.
edit: this comment was before andre chimed in at 51:52. it was the similarity in name as well as discovery. ico was to tomb raider what ecco was to metroid?
When Netflix says no to something you know it must be total shit.
Or it's got a masculine white male as a character
@@rickymcn1
They can be *characters,* they just have to be villains, or idiots, or sidelined by strong wahmen
The marvel Spiderman movies feel like a CW show.
People want their hand held in games now. Look at game designer David Jaffe who couldnt even be bothered to play Metroid Dread calling its design bush league becaue he got stuck in a room. But hey he got a GotY once a long time ago for one game. He hasn't made anything of consequence since the PS3's Twisted Metal but oh well.
Modern game design is all about putting white paint on rocks to show you exactly where you need to go.
Is the script for THE BERMUDA DEPTHS around?
Bermuda depths has haunted me my whole life
Could you review running on empty please? Aussie classic car movie
That ohh no when they all find out they cant watch s4 of discovery 🤣🤣... i didnt even finish the first season
I love ICO!
Strange how peoples favorite movie can be so strange, love the old movie "Blood of Heroes" seen it over a dozen times. I remember seeing it for the 6th time in the theatre and people walking out and thinking whats wrong with these people? lol
1996-2000.
Golden age of video games.
Go where you want, explore, get it wrong, keep trying, finally get there.
So satisfying.
First 3 Tomb Raiders, Duke Nukem 1 and 2, First 3 Resident Evils....
I can continue...
Shame how they dumbed down games.
I think an action figure spoiled the Spider-Man movie for me earlier lol. There are other characters on the back of the box, including [insert spoilers here]. One of the characters I had already called lol.🤫😂
True lies is actually a remake of a French film called La Totale, it isn't an original script.
1:20:00 Spider Man 4 ? Bring me Bruce Campbel ;)
Critical drinker and RMB and Nerdyrotic and M Edge oh my !!!
But they are just missing out on Steve Bannon , the Grand Wizard of the KKK , Ethan van Sciver and Heinrich Himmler.
Although getting Himmler could be quite a stretch....hmmm....the quartering perhaps?!?🤔