Stu Holden and Colin Cowherd talk Messi & Ronaldo 100 Days out from the 2018 World Cup | THE HERD
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- Stu Holden joins Colin Cowherd in studio in Los Angeles to talk about Ronaldo, Messi and the state of soccer in the USA. Hear what they had to say as we sit 100 days out of the 2018 World Cup.
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Stu Holden and Colin Cowherd talk Messi & Ronaldo 100 Days out from the 2018 World Cup | THE HERD
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Who will win the 2018 World Cup?
never talk about football/soccer ever again
Mexico
Brazil
Brazil!! 🇧🇷
Easy choice Germany will defend the Cup. Wanna know why ? Here is why: They have the best coaching staff, the best players and are most balanced at every position.
“Argentina are like the Warriors” This is why I cringe every time Americans talk about soccer. If you’re looking for an NBA comparison, they’re OKC: Undeniable Talent, but they just don’t gel.
Eddie Roche That is a perfect comparison
Bro they aren't even like OKC, at least OKC is much much better than saying Warriors and I see where you get OKC from but Argentina are stacked with amazing attackers and their defense is really bad and thats why they had a bad world cup and just relied on Messi.
2 yrs late but I’d say they’re like Portland if Dame was the GOAT. The personality in Dame is important because he doesn’t feel the urge to own an organizations every move. I could see Ronaldo trying to
im late but I can see how they were like the Warriors. Steph, Klay, Dray, KD, and Boogie. Argentina had Messi, Dybala, Aguero, Di Maria, Higuain, etc
Not even 10 seconds in and he mentions LeBron.
Stephen Doyle you mad bro??
He dreams bout him
Ikr I'm surprised he didn't compare USMNT to Westbrook or something
colin coward is the biggest idiot to be put infront of the TV after nick wright makes skip bayless look classy and intelligent :O :O : O
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can tell Colin doesn't watch Football (soccer) . Same way as he doesn't watch the NBA until the final five weeks.
I'm willing to bet you he watches so much more sports then you do
Bryan Lutz doubt it the nonsense he says
Joe Beckman WRONG!! his mom was english and a huge primier league fan.
I can tell you've watched one video and are drawing assumptions based on that
Was thinking...”wow Colin is talking about soccer, this will be interesting.” Then it turned out to be similar to two 5 year olds discussing the history of cushions!
Should have had Lalas on here instead of this guy.
Argentina = Warriors? Lmfao.
its the complete opposite, he literally carried argentina to the world cup wth a hayrick v ecuador.
I mean its not wrong compared messis teammates of the last years some of the best players in the world to ronaldos.
Sure, Argentina is stacked on offense, but midfield and defense, not so much and that's been their problem these last few years.
Not really in the world cup 2014 they only conceeded 1 goal in 4 knockout games. Their problem has been playing well together sometimes thats all. And you cant really say they are playing bad they reached the world cup final
The only problem is that it was 4 YEARS AGO! The current Argentina completely depends on Messi.
It's funny to listen to Americans talk about footy
Trust me 😂
@@clintonmatarutse3220 bro it’s so bad Argentina=warriors what is he on about I’d rather they don’t speak about it rather than do this nonsense
Wow. This was genuinely horrible to watch, never do it again.
its jsut annoying when american sports shows talk about soccer because the hosts know nothing about the game
American football coverage is the funniest thing.
No offence to the real American ‘soccer’ fans but sometimes it can be so hard listening to Americans talking about the sport 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
How does being American have anything to do with watching or talking about the sport? In the US football, basketball, and even baseball give you a lot more chances to go pro and make a living from it, that's the main reason these sports are bigger and more popular in the states. And the US has one of the best women's soccer teams in the world but you are just going to act like that doest matter?
Bryan Lutz the chances are very low on becoming a pro in any sport. Football and basketball are huge because they have a faster pace and more action compared to soccer
Bryan Lutz What I meant was Americans who clearly don’t watch the sport that much compared to the NFL or NBA etc
Football is not a fast paced sport. The secret to American popularity is not pace but high scoring.
Dennis Berndt Wrong Baseball is hurting not because a lack of Runs but the pace.
Argentina are more like the wizards than he Warriors.
Jonny_mufc very late comment but Argentina is the Cavs being carried by the goat messi which is comparable to LeBron but messi is more clearly the best player of all time than LeBron
Messi is the GOAT
@@sethjeppson5680 Nope Lebron is more highly regarded here. Lebron had a title. Messi has 0 world cups. No one cares about stats it's all about championships.
Both Ronaldo and Messi are ready. But neither is going to win the World Cup.
Dixie Carter yup
Eh Argentina has a better chance.
I got Portugal as a dark horse
argentina always has chance until meet germany and lose...
kaki langit yeah like at the world cup 86...idiot
Never make a football vid again.
ikr
You mean soccer and why not they did pretty good! Stop hating
Arou Johnson No, he means football. America's version of football is irrelevant outside our borders.
Eth D it's getting popular tho but basketball is gonna take over
Arou Johnson No its the real football y’all Just stole the name lol shouldve called it handball or something
Germany? How y'all missin the Germans
cuz 1939
taylor wtf ?
Never ever talk about football ever again
How is Argentina like the Warriors? More like France or Spain are like the Warriors
Heso Melo Germany
Brasil... Best offense and a good defense
Spain’s like Miami a few years ago
brasil is like lakers or celtics...
argentina = cavs
Lol Lebron more like Messi, though the built is extremely different, they’re both all around players. Messi is a great passer, scorer and dribbler
I dont think they were comparing attributes or playing style, more like impact on the game...
Ethan Stanislaus Messi is more like curry Ronaldo is Lebron
Agree with you in that they are the best passers and also great scorers with that. Their assists numbers speak for themselves. Ronaldo is just a great scorer, the best. Pity he cant or mostly won't pass with the goal in front of him
because he doesn't need to xD
i would say playstylewise messi is Lebron (allrounder) and ronaldo is mj/kobe (incredible scorer, VOLUMEshooter and mentally a little tougher). From a mental pov messi had it way easier (like LeBron until the move to Miami). The media loved him from the start. A teamplayer, humble, introverted, while ronaldo has been critisized for his looks and modelads, extrovertet behaviour, self-esteem which edges on narcisism and just has never been very popular with the media ( maybe comparable to kobe, who was a bit more distant and cold).
Thomas It's funny I m huge Messi fan and yes he is more complete similar to Lebron. Ronaldo is like MJ and Kobe their scorers. And yet I love MJ and Kobe and I don't like Lebron 😂. Messi to is the greatest soccer player ever. But Ronaldo is what there with him. 1A to 1B but Messi is 1A
Germany would be the Warriors i'd say. Also Zidane for best ever convo. Also a hat-trick is not like 70 points in a playoff game. 50 points maybe.
Colin just making it up as he goes along
I would say Argentina is like OKC or any team with multiple stars
Then Portugal is like the Pelicans before Boogie
It’s truly amazing to be able to watch both of them play at the same time
nobody in soccer is discussing who is the best individual player of all time, never heard a pele ronaldo comparisson in my life
Johann Haack because everyone knows not to rate people from the 60s
You have been in another planet
The football (soccer) expert says Messi, the non-expert says Ronaldo.. this video is a microcosm of the constant debate. Messi for me
These videos are hilarious.Please keep them up during the summer
Sad we don’t discuss FOOTBALL more often in America only when there’s big scandals or the World Cup ...
The Pride of London this show is the only one that actually tries. Props to Colin.
That's all about business. The USA already have two huge sports leagues, is very difficult to insert another league in the mix, even if it is another sport. Besides, soccer works 100% different from any other sports that Americans like, draft, for example, would never work while you have players on other countries starting as kids in the pros.
im not even a fan of hockey but messi and ronaldo remind me more of crosby and ovechkin.
Wait, what? Argentina = Warriors? Uhmm sir, have you watched Argentina play this past qualification? It was LITERALLY Messi doing EVERYTHING.
As a Brit listening, it is nice to hear that despite U.S.A not qualifying, football or "soccer" still being talked about is brilliant. I understand it must be hard not to talk too much detail about it when the league standard isn't huge and coverage is still limited but the more you do the more it helps the sport grow and produce more players
Colin watches football on youtube LMAOOOO
Thank you for talking about Soccer!!!
Messi is the best sportsman in history. He isn’t supposed to effect the game when it’s 11 Players.
Look personally I like the Goal line technology for the on the line goals which would not be given and might end up being costly but with this reviews for offsides and red cards and fouls it really does hamper the overall flow of the game and the momentum is really hampered
Finally soccer thank you colin
Would’ve much rather heard Holden talk more about the USA soccer culture and problems than Alexi Lalalas. He’s s guy who’s opinion we can respect and one who will give it to you straight.
Love that segment! You and stu have great flow
The difference between Ronaldo and Messi is that Messi is 100% talent, Ronaldo is 100% hard work and dedication.
Hi friend
I am interested to go to Russia for FIFA WORLD CUP on 1st July. Plz tell me how to buy World cup tickets. I checked in FIFE.COM but there is no availability .. so is there any other options or any other way to get tickets plz help me.
In the 1990s and early 2000s although it was really the Ronaldo v Zidane show because their teams went to four straight finals from 1994-2006 in the WC and in 1998 they played against each other. But you had other great teams which performed well in other tournaments like Germany in Euros 1996 with Jurgen Klinsmann, Juergen Kohler and Thomas Hassler and later had Ballack, Klose, Ozil, Thomas Mueller etc and then France had Henry, Deschamps, Desailly etc Italy had its legendary squad of Cannavaro, Maldini, Nesta, Totti and Del Piero and then Pirlo, Netherlands had a great squad from 1994-2010 with first Edgar Davids, Dennis Begkamp to Ruud Van Nistelroooy Arjen Robben, Van Persie and Wesley Sneijder and then Spain had its run from 2008-2012 and Portugal had its Golden Generation with FIgo, Rui Costa, Pauleta, Nuno Gomes, Cristiano Ronaldo, Deco and thats also discounting Brazil had Ronaldo, Cafu, Romario, RIvaldo, Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos, Kaka etc from 1994-2006 and Argentina had a good squad from 1994-2006.
I love this guy
Messis goals are more phenomenol than ronadlo???🤣🤣
Ronaldo is a complete goal scorer dude
He is a complete player
Give that guy a medal
Cricket does video reviews perfectly (there are some acceptions)
You can throw in Maradona? Wtf! These two know Jack shot!
Comparing an international team to NBA teams is one thing. Argentina to the warriors?
Do you watch the sport. Messi carried that team to the world cup! And Brazil dominated South American qualifying. How are they like the warriors?
But I guess it's like he said. He likes big athletes.
This guy made a good point about Argentina being like the warriors. Smaller players with flair and good talent.
I think the only time there should be instant reply in soccer is
Offside calls and penalty calls
Those are the calls that chance games and the once they get wrong most of the time
lol this was a intresting convo
The rugby reply system is great
Ronaldo and Messi is like comparing Kobe and Lebron. Ronaldo is the scorer and the accomplished one but people say he shoots too much. Messi people say is the better overall player but has yet to prove he can win a championship. This is the closest comparison
Great to see Stuart Holden doing well. Was a very good player before his injury
Pelé and Maradona are the two best players ever Messi and Ronaldo are just playing today with all the media it's not even close.
Colin watched thirty minutes of CZcams soccer videos and proceeded to make a segment about it. Brilliant.
Messi is the only player to be the best at everything. He is the best dribbler best passer best goalscorer. He is easily the best ever 🐐
He can't header the ball - not thebest at everything.
He headed a ball in the uefa champions league final in 2009 that goal was famous
Germany, Spain, France and Brazil any winner besides those 4, would be a major surprise.
Ronaldo is a goalscorer. That is it. He scores goals, but he's not an elite dribbler, not a great passer. Messi is a great shooter, an elite dribbler, great passer. Messi is up there with Maradona and Pele, and that is it.
Nathan Carroll messi>ronaldo>pele=maradona
Messi is goat
^ Oh look, I found another Idiot, who started watching football 2 years ago, and thinks he can judge player's whole career on how and which position he played, when he was over 30 years old and had to adapt to losing his accelaration because of age. When Messi starts to age, he'll move to center just as CR7, only Leo is better passer than shooter, so he'll play deeper, in the midfield. Meanwhile CR7 is better scorer, so he plays as a striker. Judging CR7's whole career on how he plays as a striker, and saying he's just a goalscorer and not a dribbler or passer is like judging Philip Lahm's career for how he played when Pep moved him to center midfield, and saying he's just a slow passer and not a sprinter/crosser.
If you dont think Ronaldo is a great dribbler then you barely started watching him in 2013. Ronaldo is a fantastic dribbler, but he did it too much when he was young that he'd run out of the energy and couldn't finish. He's become smarter.
Nathan Carroll Messi also has 39 less goals than Ronaldo in 185 less games. Let’s stop comparing. Ronaldo is great, Messi is THE greatest.
Someone that understands this sport properly!!!!
Reading what they memorised
3:40 he says Ronaldo scored a header against the USA but Ronaldo only assisted to Varela that game lmao
I think this is the first time the pressure is on Germany to perform and win really since they went to three straight finals in 1982,86 and 1990 and were heavy favorites in 1994. The only challengers I see to them, if those teams play to their potential are, Spain and France with their depth as well, Brazil really need to show they are over their 2014 disappointment and if Messi and Argentina click well. But for Messi and CR7 to cement their legacy and say they are better than what Pele, Maradona, Zidane and Brazilian Ronaldo did, this is it for them.
You get a fair bit of criticism for talking about soccer/football but I appreciate you covering it, not enough American sports outlets acknowledge its existence.
Ronaldo did the exact same thing for the 2014 world cup qualifying. Hat trick spectacular goals against zlatan s sweden
Ronaldo scored a hattrick against sweden too for last worldcup qualifier deciding match.
Messi vs Maradona is the LeBron vs MJ in soccer. Cristiano Ronaldo (because Ronaldo is someone else who was also a great player) is a great goalscorer but pretty average in other aspects of the game. Messi has the ability to create things on his own, C.R. is more dependent on having a great team built around him to succeed.
Germany is the Warriors, Argentina is the Cavs. Great team led by the best player in the world.
Messi has no equal. There is no comparison whatsoever. If you understand football you know it's not even close.
Why couldnt we have the video review back in 2010 remember england, Frank Lampards goal?
i just want to see Mohamed Salah carry Egypt to the knockout stage lol. Egypt bouta be the Cinderella story
Coaching is key. Also, the focus should be on skill first athleticism second. It is the other way around unfortuntely.
Messi ALLLLLLL DAAAAY you right Stu!
Messi’s talent is superb to Ronaldo, just that CR7 has performed better, in the accomplishment area.
In the 70s we had Pele and best team of all time in the 1970s Brazil with Rivelino, Jairzinho, Carlos Alberto, Gerson etc. West Germany had Gerd Muller, Franz Beckenbauer, Uli Hoeness, Paul Breitner, Netherlands had Johan Cruyff, Johan Neeskens, Johnny Rep etc
If the US wants to have a competitive soccer team they need to make it "the" sport in the north east, it's never gonna be big down south because football is always gonna be big there. And take out the MLS salary cap to attract the big name players
Ronaldo is clearly one step behind Messi, Maradona and Pelé
Learning more from the comments than the show lol 😂😂😂
AHHHHHHHH PRRRRROOOOOOO traes El OMNITRIZlX
My brain is hurting
I put my bet on france or spain both has great young going to prime players.
But ofcourse i support portugal since 2004 baby
This man just compared Argentina to the warriors 🤦🏻♂️
Argentina is Messi and some good players.
Germany is closer to the warriors than Argentina.
VivoEnChicago nahhh
So who’s their curry
if this guy mentions his mom is British in one more soccer video I swear...
So unlike Basketball or NBA in football especially during NTs there are many WC contenders but the legendary players stands up and separate themselves from the world class players
Great conversation on futbol/soccer here. As for the GOAT, I still think it's ultimately Pelé then Messi
you can't compare Pele and Messi because the game has change drastically in the past 40-50 years. If Messi and Ronaldo in their prime would have played back in the 60s and 70s they would've been even more dominant.
Messi is LeBron, Maradona is Jordan.
yeah, messi and lebron are both better
so weird listening to this when you come from europe
Do more football (soccer) interviews
By the way Ronaldo also scored a hat trick to send Portugal to the World Cup in 2014 just saying
Stu was great.
Please Colin, don't discuss the World Cup come June. I'm begging you! 😂😂😂
Hes right about messi being TBE
I’m a Messi fan, but Ronaldo TBH has literally insane goals I have ever seen. I have not seen a bicycle kick for Messi, but Ronaldo has done at least 3 times. Messi in my opinion is my favorite though, but it’s a pain to watch these sports analysts, “Americans “ try to talk about soccer. Same thing happened on first things first.
"A hat trick is like scoring 70 in a basketball game"
DEAR LORD MAKE IT STOP!!!!
it's more like 50+ points
messi is a great scorer, great playmaker, great dribbler, great passer. ronaldo is ONLY a great scorer, messi is on another level
Messi is compared to Maradona and Pele. Ronaldo is compared to Messi. There yo go.
Bruh how can you never have baseball segments
Ronaldo didn't score against the United States. He assisted Varela. This content and Fox's poor standard of broadcasting does little to help the game's profile in the United States and the United States' profile in the rest of the footballing world.
LeBron is CR7 - extremely powerful, athletic and dominant. Better at driving forward like Ronaldo
Curry is Messi - extremely skilled, better range and better footwork like Messi
I think a more appropriate analogy is that Messi is MJ in the early 90s when he’s trying to get to that GOAT tier that Magic and Bird and Kareem where at during that time. Cristiano is maybe Melo, so much marketing and stat stuffing, but if he’s not scoring he’s useless. Argentina are like OKC, got huge names but just can’t seem to win it all.
Kevo193 Melo is no where near Ronaldo. More like Kobe imo
this dude says messi carried Argentina as if Ronaldo didnt single handedly carry Portugal last world cup against Sweden
Ronaldo took portugal to the world cup by scoring a hatrick too tf really carried them how does messi carry that team Argetina is stacked..
Did this guy just say that Argentina is like the Warriors? Lol
Giorgio Canaglia, great reference
Other than that though Colin talking about soccer makes me cringe a little
It’s not like scoring 70 goals in a playoff because a playoff team is normally talented and dedicated and actually good, he scored a hat trick vs a team that isn’t good at all!