Analysis - How BAD Is Soldier Of Fortune: Payback Really?
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I'm still amazed at the amount of comments I got on my weapon showcase saying this game was good. It's bad, very bad. If you want to come hang out and watch me possibly play more bad games (hopefully some good ones, too) then give a follow to my twitch! www.twitch.tv/jarek4gamingdragon/
Next game - Project I.G.I.
Sorry, I've not any interest in that game.
Yep its bad.
Its got the charm of unique weapons at least that you don't see often. (More if you use the weapon unlocker patch for the strangly console exclusive XM8 and an other one or two and the few cut weapons) but even for budget bargin trash enemies pretty much use one weapon with no attachments and the fact you have to turn the difficulty down to easy so the later game enemies "Only" kill you with 2 shotgun blasts at range just makes it frustrating.
You even got weapons like the CAR 12 (Which has a different name IRL) or that multi-barreled pistol that are literally in no other video game and screwing around with them is the only reason I occasionally play this game, you can also exploit the mission select function to choose your weapons all the time even when weapons are supposed to carry over from the previous level.
Heck, the game actually has 4! grenade types, Frag, Smoke, Flashbang and incenidary yet only frags are available in the campaign.
You can also with most pistols anf as few of the smgs press the Grenade Launcher button to hold it with two hands which is kinda cool.
If the difficulty was more fair, the game was a little longer, enemies used most of the games weapons and with attachments and the different locations actually stood out instead of basically being the same jungle-y desert-y environment copy-pasted, this could have at least passed for a mediocre game with a unique weapons set instead of an outright bad one with a good weapons set.
You said Hex right... but you fail at computers. It Is Eye-N-Eye file not innie file.
Can't wait for the Darkness videos!
"I don't trust people with two first names."
C'mon, don't shittalk my boy Alex Mason.
CuteGlassesWaifu yeah lol when he kept mentioning bo1 I thought it was hilarious that the primary protaganist in bo1 had two first names and also was called Mason and he didn’t even seem to notice
The numbers mason.. What do they mean?
muh boi Taddy Mason
@@screebgaming8454 yeah but also in the army you call each other by last name
CuteGlassesWaifu High class name and profile picture. 17/10!
My cousin got me this game for Christmas one year. I got him a gears of war special edition. We don’t talk anymore
Mark Barker the remaster or the original special edition? Cuz the remaster is really good
@@jacobpicasso4016 yeah and the original gow SUCKED on the pc.
@@hoangtran4736 i thought it was great. I still play it every now n then, the colors look really good on my old VISTA pc.lol
Oh god that's funny! Hahahaha
Jacob Picasso I thought the original was alright, although I played through the remaster recently and just couldn’t. Regardless the dude was a huge gears of war fan
This game was a 2007 game.
CoD 4 was also a 2007 game.
Put that into perspective
Psychedelic Drug User graphics are not all there is about games
And hl2 ep2
@@TheOtherBeuh And crysis
That, almost hurt to think about. It's always sad to see big games next to much smaller games like this. The budget limit is always so apparent, and you have to wonder why they even really tried.
@Psychedelic Drug User COD 4 still looks decent, aged but still nowhere near as bad as this. One thing the money spent by developers helps is in how the game looks.
"The numbers, Mason, what do th-" Wait, wrong game.
We had this mason from SOF:P in 2007, the mason from red faction guerrilla in 2009 (whos name is alec mason i think), then alex mason in black ops in 2010
Quite a lot of masons in a four year span
@@BasilBonehead then in bo2 we had Mason son which I forgot his name
Code name section
@@a.s.g8334 David mason
DarkSlayer862 david masons codename was section
Kravenchenko, Steiner, all must die..
Human Boss battles are my biggest pet peeve in "realistic" Shooters, just give the bad guy a tank or something their is no reason for a human character to survive half a magazine from a .50 rifle if your selling point is "Realistic Combat" sorry rant over
I don't mind it if they at least only take a little bit more.
But the bosses in this game take several LMG belts.
Kinda like how you can unload 2 and a half mags out of an FAL in FO3 into a feral ghoul reaver's head but that lucky .44 shot in VATS will send viscera halfway across the Capital Wasteland.
@David Ransom
I think he confused it with the G3 which was the Assault Rifle in FO3
I have seen people complain about bad boss battles in many games where the characters are normal humans but its probably really difficult to make a cool boss battle if they are not allowed to use advanced sci-fi weapons or magic or superpowers or being mutated into a monster or other similar stuff.
Even in stuff like Batman Arkham Asylum for example how would you make a good boss battle against the Joker if hes just regular Joker?
@@CyberLance26 Joker's not above using "props" in his schemes, Rocksteady could have made a decent puzzle boss if Warner/DC had forced them to stick closer to the Nolan movies. personally I'd rather have end the game with a dramatic escape, like the warthog escape in Halo, or something more like the final mission in a Sniper Elite game (the real ones not Rebellions CoD Zombies nonsense) where you've panicked the villain into flight and now you have to ambush him. Modern Warfare 1's "Shoot the guy while in Last Stand mode" is also acceptable, hell, I'd even take Farcry 3 and Battlefield 4's Quick-time event boxing match endings, I'd mock them the whole way through but, its still better than nothing
11:35 that is honestly one of the best/ realistic shotgun reload animations I've seen
Yeah that was actaully pretty good
Yeah that's how a magician reloads. Pulls the cartridges from his sleeve.
@Joseph Kobatake Debatable
emilyW he actually does in fact grab bullets from no where might want to go back and watch it again hun
@@jasonr6342 One would assume he's grabbing them from a vest >.>
Those who say it's the worst FPS ever obviously haven't played many games.
The game is average, but it is definitely not worthy of all the hate that it received.
@@presidentsnow7315 it's garbage lol, not average... the first two games were actually playable
Worst popular FPS
Easy for you to say, not everyone had played Fortress of Dr. Radiaki or Operation Body Count.
God save those souls.
@@JeanMarceaux I've played Operation Body Count
God I would have PTSD if I wasn't motivated as hell cuz of military school
I feel personally attacked cuz of my name lol 😂
As you should!
Can you tell us what the numbers really mean?
The numbers mason, what do they mean?
watching a soldier scream in pain writhing on the floor with his intestines hanging out is one of my fondest memories, i didnt even know a new game was made.
Where is this?
The first Game is forbidden here in germany. Needless to say that me and my friends where total edge lords after we downloaded it from limewire lol.
@@grimfandango7135 just shoot a soldier in the stomach with .44, shotgun or other high calibre weapon, it can be done to already dead soldiers
Tobi Taktlos link
Hehe
I’ve been using this game’s weapon models for VRChat, and I can say that the Iron Sight’s are perfectly fine. No idea why the guns aim in that specific way.
Even COD games you can use iron sights.
I believe it’s to see the gore effects easily
@@matteodelapaz1698 A good theory. FEAR did a similar thing, so it's not far fetched.
We need soldier of fortune 1 remastered
The first one is the best, like my girlfriend's.
Fuck yes!
Сосок пацюк I just want a ridiculously violent , bloody , gory mindless shooter with a contemporary military setting.
Both games do
The camera angle and shooting animations should be the gold standard for modern first person shooters.Shooting in that game was more satisfying than COD seris.
11:36
That's the same shotgun model they use in "Jurassic the Hunted" two years later.
Yeah, I noticed that too, and the pistols and rifles reload the same too. Guess they got really lazy and just reused the assets without changing anything.
Pretty sure the Bar model is from Battle for The Pacific, and the black powder guns are all from the History Channel Civil War games. Nothing was original.
Cauldron made all their games on the same engine, so they just recycled everything.
15:38
That's a good exemple of a Renegade Interrupt
Solid Beard I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions! *BLAM*
Having 3 reload animations for the m16 is actually really cool, ive never seen that in a game. The reason it's has 2 empty reloads is because normally the bolt is held open after the last bullet, but you would manually close the bolt if you were putting it away so it doesn't automatically chamber a round. If the bolt is closed you need to manually charge it when you reload
Many many people have been trying to tell me this but this is not what's happening in the animation. The bolt is still open in the animation even when pulling the charging handle back. This would work on a regular AR, it's just an odd choice.
@@Jarekthegamingdragon oooh gotcha, that's weird.
Fun fact: this game was banned in Australia for being to violent. It had kinda develop a cult following down in the underground gaming scene
The Darkness 1 changed my life. I had never heard of it before the game came out, and I'm a huge first person shooter fan, but I also love sci-fi fantasy and dark horror... I look forward to the darkness again~
12:48 "In fact the AI seem kinda almost like Red Orchestra 2 AI"
*PTSD intensifies*
Can you hear the screams and rockets too?
*German soldier watching the wall then 360 out of nowhere to headshot you*
"Come on, how bad can it be..."
*Requires a hex editor just to display in native resolution*
"...well played, game."
You like Perturbator too? I see Jarek is a man of culture.
i, too, have played hotline miami 2
just givin' u shit :)
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Should’ve said man of fortune not culture.
which track plays here? I can't really recognize it
wasn't that the track playing at 16:17? if so what track is it? It fits his gameplay well.
I swear the games this studio made are all literally the same first person shooter garbage with recycled weapons and awful visuals I hate this game but they've made worse
What?! Raven has done some very iconic games. Seriously shows that you have no clue...
@@Clublike nah dude I'm not talking about raven I'm talking about the studio that did this soldier of fortune game raven didnt do this one
@@heartman64 ah sorry mate. Got it wrong then..
The studio's name is Cauldron, they're from Slovakia. At least this could be considered a guilty pleasure novelty game based on all the excessive gore.
All I remember about this game are flying limbs and dying Filipinos screaming
*"PUTANG INA!"*
Loved playing the multiplayer because of the feature where you can shoot the limbs off other players. Nothing better than joining a server with friendly fire enabled and shooting the legs from under your teammate and laughing at him when he is sitting there legless trying to figure out WTF just happened.
Me and my dad used to play a shitton of this game's MP since it was one of the few games that had no DRM and just let you play the multiplayer cracked out of the box. Looking at it now the game is pretty crappy but damn do I have fond memories of it.
God. You keep unlocking memories regarding these old games I play.
Also I'm happy for you for the surge in subs mate. Keep it up.
SIEG ZEON
I remember when i first played this game. Got it for rent at a blockbuster when i was like 9, after BB no longer accepted bribes to just buy a for-rent game. I loved it because no other game i had played had so much gore. And of course, i was 9 with ADHD, so i never even cared about plot or actual gameplay. I never made it past level 3, i think. Interesting that this game ended up being so bad after all these years looking back on memories thinking it was the shit. All i could really remember that was bad was the terrible voice acting. Thanks Jarek.
Gonna sound like a sick maniac but I don't think the guns felt like they had any power or impact in this game. You shoot a guy and he just flops over, there's no reaction to the bullet force or anything. Rainbow Six Vegas 2 and Red Dead Redemption - prime examples of ragdoll physics done right.
Also when you use a scope its like shooting a water pistol,I get that he is a trained soldier but recoil will still kick in
Unrelated; red dead 2 shooting physics look like a spaghetti western, with jump deaths, flailing and buckled knees to boot.
No pun intended
M S also this game is over 10 years old
Bullets dont make people go flying. They usually just drop like a sack of potatoes.
Yeah but its not realistic. Thats just hollywood. If u shoot someone with a shotgun they dint go flying back. They just drop like a sack
Hey I just found this through YT recommends and I have to say well done on this, never even heard of the soldier of fortune games until now and I was hesitant to click cause I thought youd be fairly generic but boy was I wrong
You have a great blend of subtle comedy with very concise points that kept me engaged the entire time
Definitely got my sub
As soon as I seen the weapons compilation I knew you will post this today.
FOOOOOUUUUUUR HOOOOUUUUURRRSSSS
Nailed it@Mr. Bleach 98
"$90!!!!!"
I love that the character runs at like 30 mph. Total immersion.
Am I the only one who actually love/likes this game?
No. It isn't that bad. It's fun.
I liked the multiplayer
How is that even possible
@@ulysses4938 what?
@@iamwhoyoucall2329 never played the multiplayer only the story even I'm not a multiplayer person
So you’re telling me in order to play the game I bought I have to be the programmer of the game before I play it??
That reminds me of those program books that had you code the game yourself.
It's honestly not that bad. Just play it at a resolution you can actually select in the menu, don't worry about FOV, and there's no audio issues... for me anyway. The only thing you need to do is force Vsync.
@@FlyboyHelosim may aswell play it on a 360 lol
@@jigzyonline2 Except playing with a game controller is no way to play an FPS.
@@FlyboyHelosim Damn straight, I cannot play shooters with a controller these days. Haven't ever played this on PC.
After seeing this review, I want to see your takes on the rest of Cauldron's FPS library like the mentioned History Channel FPS games, Secret Service Ultimate Sacrifice, Gene Troopers and the infamous title, Chaser.
2 years later, would like to see Jarek suffer from the hacking minigames at that Secret Service game.Also it has barebones gunplay (so barebones it has 1 shotgun and 1 sniper rifle)
I miss playing sof so much an underrated franchise.. This was my call of duty b4 call of duty..
Shout out to HL 1 and F. E. A. R
F.E.A.R 1 and its expansions are amazing
Loved playing MP with Bruce Leeroy, turbulence, countrybluesman and other regulators who stayed faithful and devoted alot of free time to SOF. We were the finishing crew, after we stopped playing on 360 this game soon died. TheMadRussian
Man this game was hilariously fun online and I'm #2 in the world in ranked dm on xbox 360 till this day.
that oddity about the different reloads from swapping weapons is a Cauldron thing. It was in a Cauldron hunting FPS called Cabela's Big Game Hunter: 2010 as well.
Back in like 2008 me and my friends played the hell out of this game in multiplayer. It has cool maps and the variety of guns and their extensions make it super fun. Plus it was way more accessible than smth like Call of Duty or Battlefield. I picked up one pirate copy (don't judge me, in my remote place that was all I could find), and I shared it with friends. It didn't have no steam, origin or any other kind of protection for multiplayer, you just start a server and your friends join it.
stumbled on this channel just there, I used to watch your airsoft videos all the time back in the day
I love these old game videos, thankyou for your service sir.
Seems like most of the development was spent making the guns good and satisfying, rather than the rest of the game and just rushed it, cause it hardly seems balanced towards the player.
It hardly seems finished
Its kind of the story behind dawn of war Soulstorm's development, the game was very heavy with bugs some even game breaking where some people say they crash after beating the dark elder's stronghold which makes the campaign basically unbeatable because you have to defeat all the factions at their strongholds to knock them out of the game, there's also the issue with the maps themselves as there's a few points where pieces from the tabletop game which is what relic used as an inspiration mind you for the dawn of war series were used on the maps in soulstorm, there's also the issue with the flying units not exactly functioning as they intended which the best example I can give would be if there was one unit on high ground and the flying unit was over the cliff as for whatever reason because of the positioning of the flying unit it just wouldn't attack even if it would be within range.
I don't care what anyone sais the worst shit in this is the fact that you cand ADS properly
Devs were Eastern European budget devs, the Cauldron. The only decent budget FPS game they made was Jurassic: The Hunted.
That's because most of the weapons in it are just reused assets from their other games unfortunately
: the song I believe used for the boss fight where Jarek just had enough is Disco Inferno, from the “Uncanny Valley” album by Perturbator
This game is soooooo freaking bad it hurts Seeing it again😣🤣
Love the of PS1 intro music. if I had a gaming channel I'll would used original Xbox music with the with green lightning sound when you power the console on.
That intro and this review has earned you a subscriber, friend
15:32 “Good Point.”
BAM
Yo what music did you use for your intro I swear I’ve heard it before I just can’t remember it’s driving me crazy
How about a link to all the mods and fixes that you're using?
The point you make at 8:40 is pure truth, i still play and enjoy the game BLACK more than most fps that come out today because of how awesome the gun feels in that game, the textures and reloading animations are top notch, the sound is meaty and powerful for all weapons. Also when you shoot at walls or in the ground the amount of dirt and debris thrown up by the bullets is awesome
@Jesus Christ dude i played it less than a month ago on pc, the graphics and gameplay still holds hup to this day (it's not top notch but it's better than fortshit)
Omg duuuude i used to watch your airsoft videos!!!! I bought a kwa from you!!! Hahaha when you said jared the arab dragon i was like nooooo waaaaaay. Goddamn so long, glad to see you doing well man.
Yo uhhh, i bought the game on gog and i need help with the sound. I tried to find a solution (and used the ''legacy'' sound fix thing, but that didnt work) could you post your solution in the comments/description?
I played it when I was a kid and I liked it then. Not sure if I want to replay it now tho.
6:26 "don't trust anyone with two first names" he's right though 😉
Only in America would someone name their kid Mason.
Far from looking bad, pretty decent for the time and well optimised (could run it on an old laptop i had at that time and it ran smoothly) gunplay is decent, quite fun trying new loadouts, story is an inexcusable piece of shit and doesn't deserve be part the SOF franchise, never run into those problem that you mentioned in the beginning(might be wrong as i played it 10 years ago), the gore is an extreme downgrade from SOF II, guns felt nice but lacking impact on enemies(a little bit of the peashooter effect, enemies died easily but they didn't flinch or anything, it was more of a "careful push"). Pretty accurate review, a subject of it's time, and a bad one at it but a nice little time waster as the campaign was pretty short
What's the music from 16:35-ish? I'm pretty sure I know what it is but can't place my finger on it. Sounds good tho
EDIT: GOT IT! Perturbator - Disco Inferno.
12:15 look at the enemies spawning in
Great video! I remember having fond memories of the general gun play and mind numbing action/violence lol. I definitely remember the horrid voice acting and lack of “story” too though haha. Would play it again if I still had a PS3
I was listening to a LEGO Star Wars death sound playlist and this was on it...
I remember having to buy a special video card called voodoo when I was a kid just to get SOA : Doublr Helix to worm....god it was so awesome 27 years ago. Legit had
M16
Ak47
MP5
And a sniper rifle/pistol and I still remember all 3 maps lol. Depending on where you shot that changed the outcome of the way the body was affected. Damn, the good ol days.
And it was banned in Australia.
Rush, 2 or Banshee?
:)
love it! please review more old fps, keep it up!
so that's gavin, his friend has been looking for him
This video made me interested in this game and picked it up yesterday, was actually fun till that last level.
I got this recently too and Im about to make a video on the graphics mod
Jesus, that bloom at 13:11.
I remember this game was subscriber prize of Korean monthly military magazine called "Platoon".
Wonder who got this game as prize and what would happened to him or her after playthrough.
I remember playing this on the ps3 years ago. Personally, I enjoyed it. Perhaps I was too young to be bothered by all the bad stuff in the game xD.
I like your comments about the gun being the character in these games.
Have you played the Project Brutality mod (especially version 3.0) for the classic DOOM games yet?
First game was great! Still boot it up from time to time.
So what's the name the song you were listening at 16:17?
I thought GOG releases were supposed to work on newer OS without any problems. That's the main difference between this platform games and let's say Steam.
They do. Just some games are garbage ports
SF2 was my first first real online shooter. Played socaladmin. Scrimmed in leagues, was so much fun. Still one of the best multiplayer FPS I’ve played to date.
16:17 oh wow i was rewatching this video and i just realized that you were listening to disco inferno thats sick
That's pertubator I'm pretty sure. Don't really remember what it was, not disco inferno though.
@@Jarekthegamingdragonyeah you're right it is perturbator but the song is called disco inferno it's from the uncanny valley album
Anybody know if this guy reviewed airsoft guns like 5 years ago? I feel like I remember watching Jarek4 do that
What if I were to say that my full name is Billy Bob Barry?
Great review jarek,👍
Is that a ranger Zarya (overwatch) as your background?
Not even close. lol. It's this. i.imgur.com/VhhPgXZ.png I actually hate hero shooters and really dislike how every shooter needs to adopt heroes.
I recognize some of the animations from cauldron’s hunting games (the Ar-15 (car-12), the m1014, and the pump’s reloads)
@JarekTheGamingDragon where can I get the Audio fix .dll file?
8:25
the g36 and xm8 never had a special grenade launcher made for them
but the m203 can fit on piccatiny rails depending on the variant
The G36 and XM8 do have a grenade launcher made for them. It's the AG36.
Played it when it came out, don't remember the story.
Loved the gun play. Remember the laser range finder.
100 5.56 ammunition can't kill you?
WOWEE GAME DESIGN
What's even weirder that SOF Payback (more or less its assets like the some of the sounds, maps, guns etc) were used, and made into Korean F2P MMOFPS, just called SOF Online, made by Dragonfly who made Soldier Front 1 & 2. Too bad it never really left beta and seems like theres no way to play it now, only early 240p-360p videos on YT really exist of it.
2:30
lmao he flew
This game was wildly difficult at times, if they make another (which they def should).. Just please make sure the games works.. But anyone who played has to admit that going round with a shotgun blasting arms and legs off was fun
I actually played this game, on the PS3. I couldn't get past that one level where you had an escort mission in the jungle
On the comment about the g36 and xm8; its oft mentioned that the xm8 was really just an export g36 for the American military, I'd guess that there's some level of compatibility.
Bruh I was looking for vids of this game i forgot what it was called but I found it thank god. This is nostalgic
I have the Australian version and it's so weird, the enemies just fall down with literally zero effects and very weak ragdoll. You blow up an enemie and they don't even go flying, they just fall down
I think it’s because with the M16/M4 family the bolt can slam forward if you smack the stock while the bolt is held back by the bolt hold open after the last round. Go ahead try it
Some say he is still shooting the sniper to this day
I actually have a physical copy of this thing. I tried installing it on my typical laptop, but that laptop wasn't shit (much less than my Acer Predator rig, but it can run this), and the game DOESN'T WORK. Like JFC, the first level lags so bad to the point I can't do anything
If "Difficulty Spike" had a it's place in the dictionary the exemple would be Hotel mission from this game.
You can download a patch and the games good to go resolution and hit detection fixed. I can't remember doing anything else i can't get SOF II to work on windows 10 though il get around to it one day.
What does this have to do with lego star wars death sounds?
The ps1 bootup sound in the intro ♥
"I dance sekzy foar yuuuuue" member that part?
A friend and i actually made a mod for this game that made bosses have normal enemy health and added ironsights into it, the game might have been horrid but im happy it exists so i could meet my best friend 👌🏻
Hey, this isn’t a LEGO death sound!
The Multiplayer was AWESOME !!! you where able to teamkill the whole time without getting banned; even better everytime you teamkilled someone or just killed yourself you scored 1 minus point for the whole team!! Even when teamkilling was turned off, you could still kill your teammates with phosphor frags. It was a total Trollfest!!!! And i was playing with a cracked version!! haha thats how good the game is guys!
Had it for 360 back in the day growing up and I thought it was pretty cool,lot of good memories,don’t really get gore etc in games nowadays