I was a 52E (prime power production specialist) in the US Army and I operated and repaired very large gen sets. When I retired I worked for Detroit Diesel as a field service technician. Was hired after that to work with the Corps of Engineers to work on the turbines inside the dam across the western US. I do love the smell of diesel and the sound of turbos and turbine generators. Miss it. 🤙
Yes that is awesome. What a career? I have been buying engines for a long time and am going to start buying diesels. Gonna start with a Lister then a refer unit then probably step up to a 453t. You ever think about doing some stationary engines just as a hobby?
That’s a cool life story. Imagine starting the same path right now. And all of the cool stuff you get to play with in the future. Diesel will never disappear
@@michaelsorrentino9279 yeah…never thought I would be as in the Navy (I was in two branches), I was a sonartech in the advanced electronics field. When I switched I knew the Army didn’t have sonar, duh…lol, so I said I want something dealing with a lot of power. I guess power plants fit that criteria. Was offered a job continuing with the Corps of Engineers to work on all the dams out west here, servicing all of the water turbines and turbine generators the generate the power out here. Thought about it but, was offered a $hit ton of money by Detroit Diesel. Was great work and saw some of the most intense yachts around the world. Never got to see anyone but the engineers and engine space mechanics. But, yeah diesel just gets you…when you hear four massive turbos and look at the dyno…yeah. 😉😀
Wow that's an awesome sound. It kinda reminds me of a big piece of heavy equipment idling, which I guess makes sense as they might use the same or similar engine.
It is used in the largest CAT dump trucks; it’s ove 300 cubic inches per cylinder X 16, makes up to 4,000 hp and weighs over 10 tons… in short, a fin’g monster.
The unit sat for 5 years before this. It was unprotected and not properly stored. Inside was rusty, we were flushing the unit multiple times. This was its first start in 5 years. We eventually loadbanked the unit but I was in the field the day that happened haha.
They are a lot Louder than in this video when under load , mainly with the 7foot fan blade running !!! We have a 1000kw and 3 1750kw’s at our hospital where I work.
5MW ? Natgas ? What's with the plywood on the orange "mounts" and the fan system mounted on a pallet ? Is this is test rig ? Are the orange mounts air vibration isolators ? Very cool !
I would guess they are adjustable mounts so that the level-ness of the base frame can be adjusted to maintain proper alignment of the engine and generator on what could be an uneven floor in this temporary location. The basefame doesn’t look all that stiff.
Blackstone engines were once common in British Commonwealth countries, but have long ceased as a business - fir the usual reasons - rotten English quality, poor reliability, too much vibration.
@@GrantJohnston-dr9rt i have very limitted exposure to Rolls Royce, as Rolls Royce were pretty rare. In that experience Rolls Royce did not vibrate like Blackstone, but their reliability was not as good as the US manufacturers. In emergency generator service (eg backup power for hospitals) it is usual to employ electric lube oil heaters so that the engine will start and accept full load very quickly. The heaters that Rolls Royce supply (probably made by Lucas) quietly go open circuit. The engine starts ok, but when the control system switches over the load, the engine struggles, firing erratically and as the oil is cold, damage to big end bearings occurs.
@@zeusapollo8688 ; Presumably you meant L Gardner. They had a good name but were in a completely different market. Gardner had mass produced small engines for truck and small boat service, up to about 300 HP. Blackstone made large engines against individual order in much larger service for electric power generation. Rolls Royce covered both markets, as did and still do, Caterpillar, up to thousands of horsepower. Thus it is not valid to compare Gardner against these other makers. Gardner had its heyday back when naturally aspirated engines were common, typically making about 12 HP per litre. Modern small diesels are all turbocharged, have precision fuel injection and make more than twice that. Getting durability and reliability is easy when your engines make only half the power and have higher specific fuel consumption. To compete now engines designers need a lot more expertise and test equipment. That's why Gardner is also no longer around.
I work at a rock quarry and our smaller generators for smaller units (Perkins and Cummins generators) idle high right away. Our big cat generator has a high/ low idle switch so when it’s warming up you can let it low idle(1k rpms) but they’re really only revving to 1800 max anyway. They do that to be ready for electrical load immediately since the voltage is based on engine rpms and you cant start a 480v motor at 300 volts. I like our cat generator when it’s at low idle but when you kick it to high idle and the fan goes on high speed it is unbelievable how loud it is.
That's a 16 cylinder cat, I used to operate 8 cylinder cats (3508). They ran 1,100 hp and 750mw with sr-4 generators back in the 90's. They're probably pushing 2,200+ HP.
@@vincewilliams5219 The 3508 has smaller cylinders, 4300cc (262cu.in) per cyl. The C175 - 16 has 5289cc (323cu.in.) per cyl. Motor volume: 84,624cc (5164cu.in). Power around 4000 hp, Weight: 10+ tons.
Battery is fine. That’s a lot of engine/compression to spin. Normally with electric starters there are two starters installed. I’ve engineered a lot of these generators. This one sounds pretty normal. Notice that the radiator fan is driven by an electric motor.
It could hardly power a small town, except through the power of magic. These gensets come in a range of 3000-4000 kVA, sound like a large number doesn't it? However, the local transformer in my block comes in at 630kVA and we have natural gas for heating purposes. My local neighborhood houses about 10000 and there are roughly 30-40 of those installed. So basically, no you couldn't even power my non-american energy efficient neighborhood with one of these, let alone a small town. These gensets are typically used for large festivals (and you usually need multiple), last festival I was involved in used about 8 gensets of various sizes ranging from 500 kVA to 2000 kVA. The only reason we used smaller ones is the cost of transport. It's basically cheaper to rent multiple smaller units. Yes it looks big, it sounds big and 4000 kVA is a looooot of power, but it is nowhere near enough for a town.
This one is from a data center but they can be standby for really any major building or company from data centers, government offices/building to hospitals.
I was a 52E (prime power production specialist) in the US Army and I operated and repaired very large gen sets. When I retired I worked for Detroit Diesel as a field service technician. Was hired after that to work with the Corps of Engineers to work on the turbines inside the dam across the western US. I do love the smell of diesel and the sound of turbos and turbine generators. Miss it. 🤙
That’s awesome!
Yes that is awesome. What a career? I have been buying engines for a long time and am going to start buying diesels. Gonna start with a Lister then a refer unit then probably step up to a 453t. You ever think about doing some stationary engines just as a hobby?
Diesel junkie ????
That’s a cool life story. Imagine starting the same path right now. And all of the cool stuff you get to play with in the future. Diesel will never disappear
@@michaelsorrentino9279 yeah…never thought I would be as in the Navy (I was in two branches), I was a sonartech in the advanced electronics field. When I switched I knew the Army didn’t have sonar, duh…lol, so I said I want something dealing with a lot of power. I guess power plants fit that criteria. Was offered a job continuing with the Corps of Engineers to work on all the dams out west here, servicing all of the water turbines and turbine generators the generate the power out here. Thought about it but, was offered a $hit ton of money by Detroit Diesel. Was great work and saw some of the most intense yachts around the world. Never got to see anyone but the engineers and engine space mechanics. But, yeah diesel just gets you…when you hear four massive turbos and look at the dyno…yeah. 😉😀
For a machine this massive, it sounds so smooth and relaxed...!
It’s sweet sweet music
Wow that's an awesome sound. It kinda reminds me of a big piece of heavy equipment idling, which I guess makes sense as they might use the same or similar engine.
It is used in the largest CAT dump trucks; it’s ove 300 cubic inches per cylinder X 16, makes up to 4,000 hp and weighs over 10 tons… in short, a fin’g monster.
Lovely purring Cat.
@@aerialcat1we used 777D’s were i was and those were giant, cant imagine larger ones
@@FedkaSlovanich when I worked as a plant mechanic in mining in the UK we operated and serviced 785’s and 789’s on opencast work.
That will power my whole house and never come off idle. I want one.
Seldom I get to hear one idle. Usually eating a hot supper when I get there.
Legends waiting for that fan to spin 😅
Very, very smooth. Beautiful engineering.
We use this C175,16 Engine in the uk fitted into Diesel Electric Locomotives.
I think in the Class 68
Usually a stand-by gen set for a hospital but we use them with a Highwall miner.
What a gentle beast 💪
I would love to hear it ramp up to 1800 Rpm❤
The unit sat for 5 years before this. It was unprotected and not properly stored. Inside was rusty, we were flushing the unit multiple times. This was its first start in 5 years. We eventually loadbanked the unit but I was in the field the day that happened haha.
@@clayton3404sounds very smooth-running for that amount of storage time!
1800 is for four pole units. 900 rpm for this beast with Eight pole alternator
@@clayton3404 It looks brand new to me, not a stain of oil from distance 👍
I wonder what the fuel consumption is per cylinder ?
per each rotation cycle?
Or for each minute Minimum/ maximum for the entire beast?
Quad turbos, fuckin’ metal 🤘
These are still used as a primary power source in small villages here in BC.
no worries, some day even canada will get an electric grid
Sounds awesome
Purrs like a kitten !
Now that's a nice powerplant for a swap. 👌🏻😁
Think we could fit one in a Miata? :)
@@ads1035 Probably. 👌🏻😆👏🏻😏
They are a lot Louder than in this video when under load , mainly with the 7foot fan blade running !!! We have a 1000kw and 3 1750kw’s at our hospital where I work.
I worked around D399 Cat gen sets for a bit. 1100 rpm and they were loud.
5MW ? Natgas ?
What's with the plywood on the orange "mounts" and the fan system mounted on a pallet ? Is this is test rig ? Are the orange mounts air vibration isolators ?
Very cool !
The orange mounts look either like hydraulic jacks, or it is a pneumatic air movement system (semi hovercraft thingy)
I would guess they are adjustable mounts so that the level-ness of the base frame can be adjusted to maintain proper alignment of the engine and generator on what could be an uneven floor in this temporary location. The basefame doesn’t look all that stiff.
I work on these for a CAT dealer. When these are fully loaded and all four turbos are screaming you can’t hear yourself think.
Almost started as smooth as a Cadillac.🤣🤣
It had to find TDC on #1 cylinder first. 😆
Dont put it in the basement if your going to use it in a tsunami often occurring area. Just food for thought
This is at the shop in a test cell
Reminds me of the emergency generator of the LNG carriers. BTW they are usually Cummins.
Perfect!!!!!!!!!
Wooow beauty!!!
Cool
STRAIGHT into the miata
That miata would be a pancake HAHAHA
Nice! ❤ what is it driving? Generator?
standby generator
What would the fuel flow be on this thing at idle?
Lovely. Is that a prelube pump at the beginning?
Yes
Is the whining at the beginning, the engine being spun to build up oil pressure before actually firing up?
Pre lube pump
I would love to start next to it to feel the vibrations, noise and diesel
I would also like to see the cooling fan come on.
Run smooooooth
I've designed datacenters with 3 of these beasts...
I'd like to see the smoke👍😋🤔
This would go nicely in a miata
Between :55 and :41 was my favorite
7000rpm redline?
Whats the sound for the first 25 seconds?? Is that the oil pump running?
pre lube pump
Are there any safety features to prevent diesel runaway? I cant seem to find any answers.
yes. there are a lot of alarms and shutdown built into the units to protect itself if something were to happen .
Can't beat a Blackstone twin bank , marine!
Blackstone engines were once common in British Commonwealth countries, but have long ceased as a business - fir the usual reasons - rotten English quality, poor reliability, too much vibration.
@@keithammleter3824 You mean like Rolls Royce?
@@GrantJohnston-dr9rt i have very limitted exposure to Rolls Royce, as Rolls Royce were pretty rare. In that experience Rolls Royce did not vibrate like Blackstone, but their reliability was not as good as the US manufacturers.
In emergency generator service (eg backup power for hospitals) it is usual to employ electric lube oil heaters so that the engine will start and accept full load very quickly. The heaters that Rolls Royce supply (probably made by Lucas) quietly go open circuit. The engine starts ok, but when the control system switches over the load, the engine struggles, firing erratically and as the oil is cold, damage to big end bearings occurs.
Now Gardiner on the other hand...
@@zeusapollo8688 ; Presumably you meant L Gardner. They had a good name but were in a completely different market. Gardner had mass produced small engines for truck and small boat service, up to about 300 HP. Blackstone made large engines against individual order in much larger service for electric power generation. Rolls Royce covered both markets, as did and still do, Caterpillar, up to thousands of horsepower.
Thus it is not valid to compare Gardner against these other makers.
Gardner had its heyday back when naturally aspirated engines were common, typically making about 12 HP per litre. Modern small diesels are all turbocharged, have precision fuel injection and make more than twice that. Getting durability and reliability is easy when your engines make only half the power and have higher specific fuel consumption. To compete now engines designers need a lot more expertise and test equipment. That's why Gardner is also no longer around.
Is that initial noise the injectors priming?
Pre lube oil pump
Very rare to hear a heavy generator start and idle. Most of the ones I see just jump straight to full RPM, even when not being loaded
I work at a rock quarry and our smaller generators for smaller units (Perkins and Cummins generators) idle high right away. Our big cat generator has a high/ low idle switch so when it’s warming up you can let it low idle(1k rpms) but they’re really only revving to 1800 max anyway. They do that to be ready for electrical load immediately since the voltage is based on engine rpms and you cant start a 480v motor at 300 volts. I like our cat generator when it’s at low idle but when you kick it to high idle and the fan goes on high speed it is unbelievable how loud it is.
Suitable for my next bike engine swap
nice car, what's the retail of one of those?
more than you can afford pal, ferrari :D
I scrolled past this and thought it was the apparatis from lethal company
Are you at the TECH center in mossville?
no
@claytonhuntington3011 ok thanks.
The only time in its life it gets to idle.
What is that crazy buzzing sound before the crank turns?
Maybe a electric engine spinning up a flywheel
pre lube pump
Awesome...how many ponies we looking at here?
That's a 16 cylinder cat, I used to operate 8 cylinder cats (3508). They ran 1,100 hp and 750mw with sr-4 generators back in the 90's. They're probably pushing 2,200+ HP.
@@vincewilliams5219 The 3508 has smaller cylinders, 4300cc (262cu.in) per cyl. The C175 - 16 has 5289cc (323cu.in.) per cyl.
Motor volume: 84,624cc (5164cu.in).
Power around 4000 hp,
Weight: 10+ tons.
C175 sounds a little bit like a Alco to me.
Do you know the electric motor horsepower for the cooling fan?
125hp
@claytonhuntington3011 thanks for your answer 👍👍
I want that in my house
That could power a small town. Sounded like the battery needs a charge. Distinctive start up knock of a cat.
Battery is fine. That’s a lot of engine/compression to spin. Normally with electric starters there are two starters installed. I’ve engineered a lot of these generators. This one sounds pretty normal. Notice that the radiator fan is driven by an electric motor.
Batteries were fully charged and most c175’s if not all have 4 starters haha
Clatterpillar, correct?
It could hardly power a small town, except through the power of magic. These gensets come in a range of 3000-4000 kVA, sound like a large number doesn't it? However, the local transformer in my block comes in at 630kVA and we have natural gas for heating purposes. My local neighborhood houses about 10000 and there are roughly 30-40 of those installed. So basically, no you couldn't even power my non-american energy efficient neighborhood with one of these, let alone a small town.
These gensets are typically used for large festivals (and you usually need multiple), last festival I was involved in used about 8 gensets of various sizes ranging from 500 kVA to 2000 kVA. The only reason we used smaller ones is the cost of transport. It's basically cheaper to rent multiple smaller units. Yes it looks big, it sounds big and 4000 kVA is a looooot of power, but it is nowhere near enough for a town.
WEll that is good to know!@@patrickd9551
will it fit in my miata?
@TriggK4T Just don't tell CARB!!!! If you some how impressive manage to make everything fit.
Fan Kilowatt?
I take that sound like a hydraulic pump was a pre oiler ?
Yes
Pre lube pump
Thanks! I thought perhaps it was a fuel pump building pressure.
I really wanted a person to walk by so I could get a size reference
It is tight fit for a sea container
Stand by generator for what exactly?
This one is from a data center but they can be standby for really any major building or company from data centers, government offices/building to hospitals.
Is that motor with the lifting eye the starter?
Cooling fan motor
Use your brain...
@@Katchi_ 🤡
Maybe I worked in big mfg too long! For me it's a "so what?" moment!
Locomotive sound
will it fit in a miata?
Yes, but only without the hardtop and you have to remove the passenger seat.
@@RustyorBrokenok
That was 15 gallons of fuel burned for that clip
V16 or 8 line ?
Most definitely a V16.
Where they installing this small engine in 😂😂😂😂😂
Starship Enterprise 😂
Are you sure thats not a MTU engine??
Same as 3616?
A 3616 is much larger
@@MattsVidsXD My bad. 3516
Some dude watching this wondering can I fit one of those in my Miata?
Need that to charge my phone...
swap into a miata when?
Does this fit my Honda?
No this is intended to power a Prius..
If only it were a 20V645...
Okay
Bro... And under load?!
Miata swap please
Gotta keep those hybrids charged!!
😅
Surprised izs not air start
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