The Diesel Powered RatBack Gets A New Bed!
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- čas přidán 30. 03. 2024
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Rollback. You never shy away from a challenge, now is not the time to wimp out.
Stretch the frame and roll back.
Rollback, you can't change plans now, so keep going with the rollback.
Make the frame longer and use the roll back but don't cut it extend the frame a little and roll with it .
I agree with full length roll back and move the axle back. More work but worth it. You will be glad you did.
Best looking role back I've seen
You absolutely need to make it a rollback.. Youve been talking about it for ever and have never failed when things are hard. You are FABRATS. To many waiting to see this completed.
thats a chit ton of work to cut down all that tilt and slide and get it all back to working. they left the lift rams on the truck. not say it cant be done ut is the squeeze worth the juice. time will tell
See my post
Stretch the frame to make it look right !
Cut the frame in front of axle and extend with box tubing. Build new driveshaft. Keep the whole rollback bed. You're going to need it on those recoveries.
The ratback isn't for recoveries he's already said that. It's just for hauling his stuff so he doesn't have to haul a trailer.
@@ShineRunnersGarage That's true but you know how these recoveries go. The tow vehicle might be the last resort that saves them. Hell, I'd keep the wheel lift too. Might be towing the FJ and the customers vehicle out at the same time.
@@TheShop10 touche
That's too sensible for them to even contemplate doing.😁😁
@@ShineRunnersGarage Yes, i 2nd that notion.... The wheel lift can tow at random.........Random is the mystery...
I say roll back. You guys are dedicated to making things work. I am confident that you can figure out. If you make it static, there will come a day where you wish you had made it a roll back
Roll ‘em on back, please. You’re FabRats after all.
Enjoy the build. Should be a rollback.
Rollback for the win. A longer frame and bed would be useful too, it will be more work but will make the truck more versatile, who knows what other uses you may have for it in the future…
Paul @FabRats I have been looking forward to this build since you first told us your plans for the off road rollback and became skeptical as the build progressed but after seeing it with that bed on it I feel like your gonna' have to stretch that frame at least 3 1/2 feet whether you shorten the bed or not. I just can't see that truck safely hauling the FJ down the road with that much overhang, I believe you'll have a hard time keeping the steer tires planted firmly with that much weight behind the rear axle. I absolutely love the concept and have thoroughly enjoyed watching the build! Looking forward to the finished product! Thanks for takin' us along for the ride, I haven't missed a Fab Rats episode yet! You guys are awesome, keep it up!!!
Rollback!
Well for the rat back i see that look your thinking that frame is to short paul if i were you id extend the frame by 3ish feet and put Duallys on i know that will be a ton of work but you'll be alot happier in the end. Just food for thought.
I vote Rollback. You've definitely got the capability to fabricate and repair the slider. I think you'll regret putting a beave tail on it. You'll lose ground clearance if you ever have to take we it up a steep hill
Build the rollback You can do it. It’ll be awesome content and sweet for loading the FJ
I cant imagine regreting just making the roll back work. Has so many uses. Whats the rush :) We are hear along for the ride regardless. Do your thing and keep enjoying yourself. Happy Easter God bless ❤ love you all!
Make it a rollback, so that when you get phone calls for broken sxs’s, you have something easy to get them out with 😂
Keep the flatbed at 17 ft and make it a tilt deck. All you have to build is a pivot point at the rear and a cylinder. The weight will all be at the front with a car loaded so the deck length doesn't really hurt anything. This will also eliminate the need for the whole rollback frame, reducing weight dramatically.
Definitely a rollback. Also heater hoses will be a problem with airlock. Needs to be lower or have air bleeder.
A rollback would be so cool
i think you need to build it as a rollback, the current frame on the RatBack maybe somewhat short even at the 13 1/2 or 14 feet you talked about in the video, thats all you said you needed for the tow truck if your heading out on the road with it, just my opinion as all, didn't you already bob this frame during the build process or do i have my wires crossed, I'd agree with some of the other commenters about stretching the frame or moving the axle back for stability, I think your gonna have to sharpen the eye crometer on the rest of the build of the RatBack, its an awesome truck 😂
Definitely make it a functional rollback.
Roll Back all the way, stretch out the frame, move the drive axle back, maybe go dual wheels.
6wd would be awesome
Singles float better and are easier to air up and down
@@davidwoermansr singles would be good if they can carry the weight, that's why I said duals maybe.
@@leewelbanks6366 the right load rating tire is key I have went to super singles on my semis then put duals on my mud party suburban
Extend, add rear axle, and make it 6x6 with lockers. Yes its a bigger project, but it will be cooler and more functional in end. Could add rear steer axle if you want to keep turning circle same. Dual rear steer? That be cool 😎.
Okay , Paul , you asked for it ! Since you said from the start that you was going to make a roll back out of it ! I think that you should do the roll back ! Come on now your Channel is called FabRats let's see some fabricating being done ! You have pecked my interest in to seeing if can be done !
Paul I definitely would figure out how not to shorten the roll back so that you can use it for more than just the FJ for sure!!! And yes I would definitely do a rollback for sure instead of a stationary bed!! It’s definitely going to look good though!!!
This build is supposed to be short. The freightliner rollback is still there to do whatever
Rollback for sure, it'll just take some extra time. You can figure it out!
I'd extend the frame and leave the bed length so you can use it for anything. May even go dually or super singles gonna need sway bars
This is what I expected to happen. You gotta go for the rollback but you need a longer beefier frame and more tires and a beefier axle or even better would be 2 rear axles for more traction and flotation with 4 super single tires and essentially its a 6x6 with 3 lockers. Don't shorten the bed too much just for the FJ. Make an offroad rollback that can handle the wrecker. The rollback itself, can then be used when you need more weight/pulling power and have a whole life of utility instead of basically just being the FJ's princess carrier. You may need to just get a whole different frame and swap the cab, motor, and bed instead of trying to make work what you currently have.
Rollback, go for it YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! make me proud of you all
(Back yard builder)
I wouldn’t cut that bed down at all I would stretch the truck to fit the bed. You definitely should stretch it, go dually and make it a roll back like it was intended. Look at how much you have used your roll backs already so imagine having a nice one that is actually capable off road. It honestly should have been a dually or at the very least super singles from the start. I didn’t understand why the heck, you did away with the dually axel from that newer Dodge you robbed the springs from. Ramp trucks suck and the people saying to go static are just lazy and want the easy option.
Hi Paul and Crew, I think the rollback would look great with some flares over the front wheels, to help stop the mud going all over the windscreen,, for what it worth.. by the way Great to watch you guys.
I say stick with the rollback plan. It may be more difficult, but you will thank yourself later.
Definitely rollback. Finish what you starrted.
I believe you need the rollback, its a lot more work but you will be able to utilizes it so much more it your retrieves.
Stretch the frame. It’s probably easier than shortening the bed. Save weight and complexity with a simple tilt bed with a rearward pivot
I like the idea of the rollback vs a static bed. You can make it happen.
Build a roll back by extending the truck frame and place duelies on the rear after moving axle back too.
making a rollback out of a stock truck was never going to work. This is a better idea that keeps the concept of making a rollback to carry the FJ. Not a fan or turning it into a Ramp truck.
that's not happening
Lengthen the frame and wheelbase, add duellies and leave the rollback 17' long, It doesn't make sense to make it fit one shortened vehicle, you may need to haul something a bit longer one day.
You guys are missing the important point that the rollback hardware weighs about a ton. Look how beefy those sliders are and don't forget a complete hydraulic system goes along with it. He's going to run out of capacity before he ever loads a vehicle.
Also, if he was going to do this it would have been easier to cut the entire back half off the tow truck and weld the old cab to it. That way all the towing equipment would remain fully functional and intact
Gotta keep it short as possible for off-road. Recoveries.
Whatever you build, move your rear axle back 3 - 4 feet so that you will have better load distribution between the axles.
It's already built
When are you idiots going to figure out that the Rat back was never designed to be longer. It's supposed to be short.
He needs to rebuild it. When he loads something on it, it’ll be way too tail, heavy to be capable of doing anything off-road. It makes the front end too light for steering and braking purposes and not to mention the frame is not designed to carry the loads like that. That is why, you see frame failures with the rainbowed frame
@@reedrk88t Dang.. Too bad it's done and finished.... can't change or rebuild, or modify things. =/
@@Ty-bz7zx You're kidding, right? You know, because sarcasm doesn't always come through the internet.
extending frame 6x6
I think making it a roll back will be harder to do but will save you tons of trouble down the road.
Roll back will be more work now for sure, but you'll be glad you did it when the time comes to use it.
You gotta build it as a roll back! That’s it’s name and we have been waiting to see it. You can do it Paul, you’re the OG Fabrat😊
He probably can't figure it out lmao. I mean he is taking off the PTO winch and putting a bad lands on it how silly can you get. If anything I would have but a mount for a badlands above the PTO winch. Definitely wouldn't have gotten rid of it completely.the fact he's cutting the bed down to 14 ft makes it worthless as a rollback. Good luck fitting a car on it let alone a full size truck. Good channel and good people but this build is going in. The wrong direction and it's gonna be a huge disappointment. As you said it was supposed to be a rollback.
Honestly, you should do roll back. It may be more of a pain than a static bed but... It'll be nice to have when you need it. Also furthermore, your gonna want to extent the frame of the Ratback no matter what you do cause otherwise it gonna be doin carolina squats all day long, maybe even try tipping backwards if the weight past the rear axle is enough to overcome the weight at the front of the Ratback. Besides, it being a roll back type bed is kinda what the majority of us wanna see since that was going to be the original vision, and well... might as well stick to it.
Rollback. Think tank with Rudy. He just made one pretty much from scratch. Thanks for sharing.
I think you will need to move the rear axle back or extend the frame so you transfer enough weight to the steering axle. Good looking rig!
Roll Back- if you need to get Razors or smaller ATVs out you can use the roll back. Plus - keeping with the trend of Skid Steers and off road recovery (Robby Layton and Diesel Dave ) have off road recovery skid steers- you will have a roll back to haul the skid steer!
Make the roll back. You guys know how to do stuff. Just go for it.
IMO it needs to be a roll back, that was the plan from the beginning. I wouldn’t shorten that bed instead I’d stretch the truck to the correct wheelbase to fit the bed. It be a shame if you cannibalized the Izuzu’s rollback bed for no reason.
You guys have come so far with the Ratback. Even though it might take longer and require much more work (and more episodes) I think the rollback will prove its usefulness much quicker than a tiltback. Especially because you guys have such varied equipment! Great job as always
The video of Hunter in the boat screaming because of the mice is priceless. One of my favorites.
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Mouse bites hurt but the shots just in case they have rabies really sucks I found out doing a good deed and picking up a muffler and a few chunks of rusty exhaust pipe from the middle of a narrow gravel road and mice came out the muffler and bit the crap out of me
I crack up every. Single. Time.
you gotta make it a roll back. So much nicer that a static bed , way more useful. Great videos!!
Watch the video a few hrs ago and I just can’t stop thinking about the ratback. It needs to be a rollback. You spend this much time on it why rush now… a flat bed is cool. But a rollback is way cooler!
I think that you should Stretch out the Frame on the RatBack FabRats. I think that you should make it into a Functional Rollback FabRats ❤
38:20 I vote Roll Back!!! .. Its way more work, but won't be much more expensive! (You have all the parts!) :)
And it's SO darn handy for loading and especially Unloading!!! :)
She's gotta be a roll-back for the cool factor. Plus it'll probably work better overall.
Good Luck!
It needs to be a roll back. It was obvious from the beginning that it needed to be stretched. And should have probably been a dually. That’s why I thought it was quite silly when you didn’t use what you had from that almost new Dodge you parted out.
As a viewer I would vote for a rollback both because of the usability, and the variety it brings to the content. But you’re the one doing the work and using it, so I guess it depends on who you’re doing the rollback for 😅
Definitely roll back! That was the whole idea to begin with. Don't stop now. Hunter in the front of boat cracks me up every time.
no matter what you do that frame is not long enough, at the very least the axle needs to be where the back of the frame currently is
Frame seems like it needs a bit of a stretch no matter which direction you go. I personally think a rollback would be more useful.
Personally... I'd leave the roll back frame alone and stretch the truck's frame. The other answer could be add a tag axle. But I'd leave the aluminum bed alone and make the truck fit the bed somehow.
Paul. You guys need to make a roll back out of it . That would be awesome . Thank you for the videos . 👍👍👍👍
Stretch the frame and wheel base.
Definitely a rollback I know it will be harder to build but I feel it will be much more useful for you
Absolutely it needs to be a rollback, not just a bed!!! Don’t settle😎. Love the shows!!
Finally!! lol. Doesn’t look like the wheelbase is long enough. Even at 13 1/2 feet it looks like it’s gonna be super tail heavy.
So don't cut the rollback bed...extend the frame and put dualies on the rear as another commenter suggested...that beds too damn nice to cut up !!
roll back
That frame needs extended 4 foot and the rear axle pushed back to match. Right now it looks like it'll be a wheelie beast.
He's shortening the deck 4 feet. This was just throwing it on as-is as a visual
@@kshepthedrummer Even with the shortened deck, that still puts the rear axle around about the middle of the bed at best. Still going to pop wheelies with something on the bed, especially if you have to load it backwards.
Needs dual wheels. That bed and FJ are gonna be dang heavy on a set of single wide tires.
I think you need all the functionality of the roll back. Don't take the easy way. This is why I watch you guys, to overcome, persevere, and pervale.
Keep up the good work.🤟
Stretch the frame on the truck leave the bed alone. It’s about the same amount of work the truck Well handle a lot better. You’ll be happier in the long run. God Bless from mustang Ridge Texas (Falco)
Roll back for the win.
The bed looks great on the rollback. I think the wheel base is not far apart enough for a roll back, might cause the front wheels to come off the ground. So i vote for the stationary bed.
15' Roll back and stretch the frame 2' - 3'.
In for a penny in for a pound.
cut the frame and lengthen it...gotta keep the rollback
Rollback. It will be harder to build but you will be glad have it.
Roll Back brothers 👍👍
Rollback bed plzzz
you’ve came this far make it a rollback for sure 👍🏻
The Rat Rod looks super cool with the bed on it. Definitely gotta go with rollback, static is not for that truck. Lotta work but you guys GOT THIS!!!
Take the time now and make it a rollback. It will be worth it.
There is a reason why the Isuzu had dual rear wheels, the roll back mechanism is not light, neither is the FJ. Weight is not your friend in current wheelbase and rear axle setup. Also may need to devise a way to purge air from the Elevated heater hoses.
Roll back all the way
I think it would look better with dual wheels in the back
Hunter is such a natural addition to FabRats.
You should add about 3' to 4' to your frame lengthen your driveline. Thx for the video.
Being a roll back driver , I think no matter what you'll want to mave the rear axle back , otherwise you'll jave too much overhang weight and barely any on the front axle . Other than my 2 cents , I love the build and am happy your back working on it , I'd kill to jave a truck like that as my daily tow Truck haha .
Make it a rollback, it'll be short but versatile.
Totally love that Paul challenges Landon like this. Parental grooming is always better than blissful ignorance 😊
A rollback it should be because you guys love to build things that are harder and more complicated.
If Rudy can make a roll back out of a K truck for mini jeeps, you can surely turn this into one! Of course Rudy is a better fabricator than you, so its OK if you can't. :) You are by far my favorite channel on YT! I can't even watch Robbie anymore, for multiple reasons.
I can't watch Layton either. I don't know what it is about him. He tries to hard to be funny or something
Rollback for the win👍
Always love the callback to the yellow submarine and Hunters screams about the "alive mouse"!😂😂😂😂😂
roll back and extend the frame and put a set of air bag float axles behind the drive axles
RollBack ! ! ! It's cooler and more easy with a roll back ...