Many star fans claim that she's universal. As a Star fan myself I'm going to take down the arguments and points that they all make. 1. She easily defeated toffe, who easily defeated omni-prime, who's universal omnipotent. First off, it's highly debatable on weather or not he's actually that powerful but it doesn't matter. Toffe never actually killed him, he just absorbed his energy after possessing ludo, weaking magic which omni-prime is powered by, using half the wand to absorb queen moon's power, and then absorbing omni-prime's soul. And on top of that, star didn't even defeat him when he was in that form. She defeated him when he grew himself his regular body, which is weak enough for Marco, a regular human, to punch a hole through him. And then star defeated him. Although that's pretty impressive considering that he has a good healing factor, that doesn't put her anywhere near universal or even mountain level. Or even small town level. 2. Skywynne was able to destroy a dimension, and Star scales to her. This is false. Skywynne was a queen long before even Eclipsa. She specialized in spells that can mess with time and one day, under a lot of stress, she accidentally destroyed the dimension. That is no doubt a universal feat, but Star was never stated or implied to be as powerful as her. Baby, a magical being that measures the power potential of queens stated that she has the potential to scale to Eclipsa. Not only is Eclipsa nowhere near as powerful as Skywynne, but by the end of the series Star isn't even on Eclipsa's level, or even her mom's. Also other fans say that she read skywynne's chapter but she didn't. She read eclipsa's chapter. And skywynne never recorded her dimension destroying spell because she was afraid that the wrong person would use it for evil. And Star doesn't even care about any other spells besides her own. When she read Eclipa's chapter, she literally didn't care to learn them and continued using her own spells. 3. Queen moon stated that the wand has the power to destroy the universe. That doesn't automatically make Star universal. The wand isn't like the infinity gauntlet where you automatically possess its full power. The wand's power varies on the power and skill set of the wielder. This is proven because star doesn't know how to control her magic when she gets the wand and even by the end of the series she doesn't even get to Eclipsa's or her mom's level or skill. All in all, star isn't universal and most Star fans would know that if they actually re watched the show and not get their info from random users on the internet and watching clips without the full context.
As a steven universe fanboy myself, i dont know if its been said anywhere but steven isnt Universal either. Hes about Planet level at best given in his corrupted diamond form he was able to break free of the weight of the entire ocean.
@@sume2556 yay but this is not the original video I mean Steven wins in this video but this is not really the original video because this is just edited and they made Steven win instead of star wining
Im a Steven fan, and I’ve tried to debunk people who think star wins, and i cant get anything through their thick heads. Do you have any reasoning on how steven wins?
Impressive! Oh one more thing, I debunked Ultraguy's blog who said Star wins... I'm SVTFOE fan but I know she can't be universal and beat Steven, DB, G1 and he only used a lot of Ad populumm fallacies xD
@@theflyguy2133 True, and I will show you a little, because in another video I answered some of the things that Ultraguy is wrong, only if they want of course Also, I'm more SVFOE fan than Steven Universe, but even I KNOW, that she is not universal and that the planetary attack would not work
@@TaiyoCrystal yeah thank you! I love both shows but for some reason people always wank Star up to universal or even multiversal… Star should be capable of destroying a large planet at max and being planetary at minimum and I’m glad someone else has acknowledged that(I also think Steven wins)
Not to mention she couldn’t even defeat a star level enemy without help. Also she’s never destroyed a universe. Also Steven’s shield can block ANY type of magic, that includes the attack she one shot toffee with. Steven wins because if his durability, defense, strength, and powers.
The result is just wrong Steven has stacked up to an actual planet killer the cluster and beat it easily. True that was kaiju form but that’s basically Steven without any restraint. Star on the other hand couldn’t beat a suit of mechanized armor that wasn’t even a fraction of the cluster’s strength. She does not have world destroying power that was obvious exaggeration or a lie. Another problem with Star is that you can’t even rely on the writers of their show as they have contradicted each other so what can be counted is only what was seen on screen.
So you don’t like adventure time, regular show, Amazing world of Gumball, Ben 10, Powerpuff girls, Craig of the creek, samurai jack, or Ed edd n eddy?!
@@marshyhmr7766 Ben 10 is my goat. With steven universe in second place. Regularshow and Adventure are masterpeices in my eyes i think the amazing world of gumball and the powerpuff girls are great i havent seen samurai jack yet Craig of the creek is just ok the only one i dont really care about is Ed, Edd, N Eddy
Why couldn't steven just slow down time and kill her? I thought steven shield can reflect lazer? Did death battle didn't include steven advantages against star?
@@ZekeyX2004 i agree. But do you really think the whole show should be cancelled because of this episode? Also i get it. When steven died i scremed NOOOO and threw my phone across the room.
Doubt it and even if they did Star would still win unless Cartoon Network wants to milk Steven more and make a new season from a show that had a finale or get ready for Star vs Steven Universe GO Steven
@@Joltscene ehh I heavily disagree Star being universal is contradicted by so many things and she herself has never been stated to be capable of destroying a universe or of scaling to people who can her best feat is blowing up a planet so I’d say it is safer to put her at large planet level instead plus her durability is so low that if she could destroy the universe then the explosion would kill her and her speed is so much lower that Steven could blitz
I do love Steven but no one realizes that in the book of spells one queen who held that very wand nearly broke the multiverse which is a much higher feat then any of Stevens, roses, or pink diamonds so this is actually unrealistic. Not trying to be rude but In this star has a book that told her how to use her power while Steven didn’t know a thing for a while, her powers include breaking time and space, and destroying a cosmic force
@cloud_zz she has read the page as that’s also we’re the warnicore stampede spell was in and the whole “StAr DoEsNt KnOWe ThE WanD aT FoLl PoWR” excuse is stupid because yes she has mastered the wand WAYYYYY before the series ended and the wand isn’t like some weapon you need to master in order to use it’s full potential it’s more of something you need to get use to which she easily did and actually learned magic without her wand. Also all that Star has to do is activate the Dimension destroying spell which she doesn’t in the series because she has no opportunity to do it.
@@Joltscene that was one time but she was still lazy to read the hole book and she never got to read the hole thing sence it was destroyed and she hasn't done anything to prove she can destroy a dimension or a universe like at all so saying she didn't have a chance in the show I can say Steven can sneeze and destroy the outerverse but never had a opportunity to do it
I forgot to mention that this will make the Steven Universe Fanboys and Fangirls including me more happier
Many star fans claim that she's universal. As a Star fan myself I'm going to take down the arguments and points that they all make.
1. She easily defeated toffe, who easily defeated omni-prime, who's universal omnipotent. First off, it's highly debatable on weather or not he's actually that powerful but it doesn't matter. Toffe never actually killed him, he just absorbed his energy after possessing ludo, weaking magic which omni-prime is powered by, using half the wand to absorb queen moon's power, and then absorbing omni-prime's soul. And on top of that, star didn't even defeat him when he was in that form. She defeated him when he grew himself his regular body, which is weak enough for Marco, a regular human, to punch a hole through him. And then star defeated him. Although that's pretty impressive considering that he has a good healing factor, that doesn't put her anywhere near universal or even mountain level. Or even small town level.
2. Skywynne was able to destroy a dimension, and Star scales to her. This is false. Skywynne was a queen long before even Eclipsa. She specialized in spells that can mess with time and one day, under a lot of stress, she accidentally destroyed the dimension. That is no doubt a universal feat, but Star was never stated or implied to be as powerful as her. Baby, a magical being that measures the power potential of queens stated that she has the potential to scale to Eclipsa. Not only is Eclipsa nowhere near as powerful as Skywynne, but by the end of the series Star isn't even on Eclipsa's level, or even her mom's. Also other fans say that she read skywynne's chapter but she didn't. She read eclipsa's chapter. And skywynne never recorded her dimension destroying spell because she was afraid that the wrong person would use it for evil. And Star doesn't even care about any other spells besides her own. When she read Eclipa's chapter, she literally didn't care to learn them and continued using her own spells.
3. Queen moon stated that the wand has the power to destroy the universe. That doesn't automatically make Star universal. The wand isn't like the infinity gauntlet where you automatically possess its full power. The wand's power varies on the power and skill set of the wielder. This is proven because star doesn't know how to control her magic when she gets the wand and even by the end of the series she doesn't even get to Eclipsa's or her mom's level or skill.
All in all, star isn't universal and most Star fans would know that if they actually re watched the show and not get their info from random users on the internet and watching clips without the full context.
As a steven universe fanboy myself,
i dont know if its been said anywhere but steven isnt Universal either.
Hes about Planet level at best given in his corrupted diamond form he was able to break free of the weight of the entire ocean.
*[I want me in a death battle too!]*
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I don’t know why but I really want Timmy Turner vs Star Butterfly
Timmy is just a little wimp if he has help from wanda and cosmo then he wins. But without help, Star wins.
What about bidoof the god of pokėmon
I feel much better that Steven wins
Me Too.
I wish steven had won in the first place. He will always be the true winner in my eyes.
@@marshyhmr7766 I agree with you.
@@marshyhmr7766 Agreeing with you 100 percent
@@sume2556 yay but this is not the original video I mean Steven wins in this video but this is not really the original video because this is just edited and they made Steven win instead of star wining
Literal steven is faster than lightning so he must have finished the original
I wouldn’t say he’s faster than LIGHTNING, but yeah he’s fast.
Faz boi
@@marshyhmr7766 hes atleast fast enough that time slows down around him because of how fast he is moving
Just wanna say, Thank you for making this.. I feel much better now seeing this
Now this is more accurate
True ending
yes stronger than steven star
Better
@@retrohero8622 my bad english 😅
@@umutpool6033 that’s ok.
Nice work
I love this ending much more than than the original
Yep.
I love this video
Glad to see an alternate ending to this.
Perfect
Honestly I agree with this one not the original
Im a Steven fan, and I’ve tried to debunk people who think star wins, and i cant get anything through their thick heads. Do you have any reasoning on how steven wins?
Thank you for making my day better
Man steven did a omni man move he just smashed her through object through object into a ketchup head, he even laughed when he killed her :0
To be fair he was in chad form.
Impressive! Oh one more thing, I debunked Ultraguy's blog who said Star wins... I'm SVTFOE fan but I know she can't be universal and beat Steven, DB, G1 and he only used a lot of Ad populumm fallacies xD
May I see
Yeah that guy was clearly biased towards star and just came up with so much bull shit we never saw use one bit
@@theflyguy2133 True, and I will show you a little, because in another video I answered some of the things that Ultraguy is wrong, only if they want of course
Also, I'm more SVFOE fan than Steven Universe, but even I KNOW, that she is not universal and that the planetary attack would not work
@@TaiyoCrystal yeah thank you! I love both shows but for some reason people always wank Star up to universal or even multiversal… Star should be capable of destroying a large planet at max and being planetary at minimum and I’m glad someone else has acknowledged that(I also think Steven wins)
Not to mention she couldn’t even defeat a star level enemy without help. Also she’s never destroyed a universe. Also Steven’s shield can block ANY type of magic, that includes the attack she one shot toffee with. Steven wins because if his durability, defense, strength, and powers.
I like the original version but mad bc Steven Universe is the only show I like on Cartoon network
The result is just wrong Steven has stacked up to an actual planet killer the cluster and beat it easily. True that was kaiju form but that’s basically Steven without any restraint. Star on the other hand couldn’t beat a suit of mechanized armor that wasn’t even a fraction of the cluster’s strength. She does not have world destroying power that was obvious exaggeration or a lie. Another problem with Star is that you can’t even rely on the writers of their show as they have contradicted each other so what can be counted is only what was seen on screen.
So you don’t like adventure time, regular show, Amazing world of Gumball, Ben 10, Powerpuff girls, Craig of the creek, samurai jack, or Ed edd n eddy?!
@@triforceofcourage100 EXACTLY,You do analysis better than death battle
@@marshyhmr7766
Ben 10 is my goat. With steven universe in second place.
Regularshow and Adventure are masterpeices in my eyes
i think the amazing world of gumball and the powerpuff girls are great
i havent seen samurai jack yet
Craig of the creek is just ok
the only one i dont really care about is Ed, Edd, N Eddy
Why couldn't steven just slow down time and kill her? I thought steven shield can reflect lazer? Did death battle didn't include steven advantages against star?
Yea true
Good job man
I feel better now.
Thank you 😊😊😊😊
I Wish Death Battle Stayed Canceled Forever.
Dont let one episode of the series ruin it for you! Remember Iron Fist vs Po? Or Aang vs Edward? Or mario vs sonic? The list goes on.
@@marshyhmr7766 those there are still good. But this one is not.
@@ZekeyX2004 I agree. this one isn’t the best, but don’t let this ONE episode bring down an entire series of 153 episodes
@@marshyhmr7766 I mean the fight is Decent, Until the End, that's why the ending FUCKING SUCKS!
@@ZekeyX2004 i agree. But do you really think the whole show should be cancelled because of this episode? Also i get it. When steven died i scremed NOOOO and threw my phone across the room.
XD👏👏👍
This fight started because star wanted too make steven happy :(
Hoping for a rematch in 2028 or in a few years!
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Doubt it and even if they did Star would still win unless Cartoon Network wants to milk Steven more and make a new season from a show that had a finale or get ready for Star vs Steven Universe GO Steven
Joltscene or instead of a rematch, they will probably make this a remaster!
@@C.E.A.S.R I doubt that to
@@Joltscene ehh I heavily disagree Star being universal is contradicted by so many things and she herself has never been stated to be capable of destroying a universe or of scaling to people who can her best feat is blowing up a planet so I’d say it is safer to put her at large planet level instead plus her durability is so low that if she could destroy the universe then the explosion would kill her and her speed is so much lower that Steven could blitz
Yes 100% yes
Steven universe the winner.
Thank you thank you thank you!
Why did you remake it
The old one wasnt so good, it was rushed
Steven is stronger
To make it where Steven wins
I feel better :)
Steven Should Have Won
i feel way better now
Well,... this is more like it.
0:56 wen the battle start
Now I’m not made
I do love Steven but no one realizes that in the book of spells one queen who held that very wand nearly broke the multiverse which is a much higher feat then any of Stevens, roses, or pink diamonds so this is actually unrealistic. Not trying to be rude but In this star has a book that told her how to use her power while Steven didn’t know a thing for a while, her powers include breaking time and space, and destroying a cosmic force
This makes more sense.
Nice remaster but star winning was still pretty accurate it was mostly a curbstomp for star but still nice job
@cloud_zz yea she is even if she wasnt she would still beat steven
@cloud_zz probably cause she is not a dick head and actually likes her life and has had actual spells that could destroy dimensions and universes
@cloud_zz she has read the page as that’s also we’re the warnicore stampede spell was in and the whole “StAr DoEsNt KnOWe ThE WanD aT FoLl PoWR” excuse is stupid because yes she has mastered the wand WAYYYYY before the series ended and the wand isn’t like some weapon you need to master in order to use it’s full potential it’s more of something you need to get use to which she easily did and actually learned magic without her wand. Also all that Star has to do is activate the Dimension destroying spell which she doesn’t in the series because she has no opportunity to do it.
@@Joltscene that was one time but she was still lazy to read the hole book and she never got to read the hole thing sence it was destroyed and she hasn't done anything to prove she can destroy a dimension or a universe like at all so saying she didn't have a chance in the show I can say Steven can sneeze and destroy the outerverse but never had a opportunity to do it
@@theflyguy2133 it doesn’t matter if they dont have the Opportunity to do it if it’s in their arsenal and is stated they can do it.
I wanna star vs shaggy😎
Ok so by your logic, Steven beats Naruto
he might, for having a great defensive system
@@leo3543 Naruto is literally capable of destroying 2 suns
@@khanyacruz8032 wut💀
@@leo3543 yes
Steven wins
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No star butterfly can beat Steven universe , Danny Phantom , bloom , Jake long this wrong
Nah
You clearly don’t know much about Steven or Star
@@Nomorevideos-f5p who? Me? Hahaha
I watched both Show full
Svtfoe: i saw All 4 seasons
SU: i saw the movie, classic Show and future
Steven universe fans just be mad 😎
@@leo3543 wasn’t talking to you? so maybe you should just ask who I’m talking to before you say your facts that I didn’t need to hear about hahaha
Do you have proof if Steven can win
defense, only one spell can brake it
and for that steven can just slow down ti.e