I like both characters But I’ve done a lot of research and backgrounds and fights to know that Ben would win EVEN WITHOUT ALIEN X Cause Ben has ways of beating Hal Hal’s ring is technology so he could use Jurryrig or Upgrade to dismantle or take control of it Also he has Ghostfreak so he could posses him Also there’s Feedback and Chromastone Please don’t take this as me starting an argument just my opinion
@@leeroy3103 Indeed and Ben can also use Chromastone, Eatle and Feedback in the sameway and he can transform into Toepick and scare the hell out of Hal and he could also transform into Worst who is indestructable
I actually would've had Ben's post-battle dialogue be something like this; "Okay, where was I? Oh yeah! The newest sumo-slammer game! Gotta go get my copy!" *transforms into XLR8 and dashes off*
Love how when people do these alt ending for this fight Hal's last line has been mostly "Heh, not bad kid" as a fan of both it just feels like the best phrase to end it.
Even though both Characters are extremely powerful Just like in the video Ben would come out as the winner due to the fact that not only does the omnitrix have a fail safe for Ben but there other alien transformations besides Alien X that could’ve given AGreen lantern a much difficult time
@@jayhyperstarx6113 Hal would won trust me Might Of Geburah did research for this fight ask him Ben at best with alien X is Hyperversal but Hal Jordan Has done ridiculous shit such as Outerversal feats I'm sorry I like Ben more but he had no chance
@@fhtswstudios4260 Some of thier answers were either wrong or made up and they did skip some important questions like how the hell did Alien X clones got disappeared ?
I t don't have a lot of new things... You put them in place and just that... With a bit more of work you can do something better on the other hand I like how your edition is and the unique thing that I don't like is the fact the battle starts with them talking and end up with that text boxes
Wait a minute Is this battle an infinite time loop The battle starts off with Ben in xlr8 form then having forcefield around him by green lantern Then going back in time thing Then when the battle finishes he goes xlr8 to find grandpa max and Gwen in just the same movement as the beginning. Dun dun Duhhhh
Alien X is a godlike being, for sure, but he is not god. We’ve already seen Ben defeating a member of his race. On top of that, Hal defeated Krona, who controlled the seven entities of the emotional spectrum, so she was also godlike.
@@nicholashewitt6223 clockwork can stop time jetray is faster than Hal feedback was able to hold the Big Bang in his hands Ben can’t time out because master control and upgrade can dismantle the ring
@@tunisino35 1. Hal is immune to time manipulation 2. No. Jetray just isn't. 3. Hal is WAY stronger than a big bang and can just punch Feedback to death...Not that Feedback was able to absorb the entire big bang anyway and rather just a portion 4. Why can't Hal just pull off the ring? The ring isn't connected to his DNA anymore 5. You know Hal's ring is no longer technology, right?
@@tunisino35 Alien X being "nigh omnipotent" only means anything in his universe. Drop Alien X in VS battles and suddenly it means nothing And show me evidence Jetray can run in the quintillions times the speed of light range.
most of Hal's attack would phase through Ghostfreak and Big Chill anyway, plus Alien X would just think Hal's ring is erased and he has no powers anymore
That's cool and all but Green Lantern should have and did win. Let me guess. Kuro the Artist said -Insert dumb bias about Ben 10 being unbeatable- just remember. Kurt admitted to knowing nothing about Green Lantern. Had admitted he is not a power scaler or debater. And has even admitted he was bias towards Ben. So please don't try to use his dumb videos for scaling.
How would Green Lantern win? Ben has a failsafe that doesn't let him die, so even if he DID die, the Omnitrix would choose an alien to bring Ben back to life
@@Grag235 Straw Man, Burden of proof, and logical fallacy. It is nowhere stated that Ben's failsafe could protect him from dying every single time. Only in certain circumstances. And the whole 'bring him back with another alien' makes absolutely no sense. There is no proof that says Ben is unkillable. In fact Ben almost died to Ultimate Keven Eleven and only survived because he had a back up Echo Echo in a trunk. And almost died to Vilgax and only survived because of a secret ability that the Crystal Alien species had. Not to mention he has died in several AU. Try again.
@@TheWarriorVA It wasn't because of the crystal alien species, cause if it was then the Omnitrix wouldn't have been making the feedback to stop Vilgax from reaching it and the shards were going towards the Omnitrix so it was from the failsafe
@@TheWarriorVA Huh, I never knew they made a behind the scene for it sorry for misunderstanding But now that I think about it, all Ben has to do is keep an echo echo in the trunk and then he's unkillable
Judging by ur claim, im guessing u havent seen much of ben 10. No disrespect or anything, u watch what u want and green lantern can be ur favorite character, idrc and i aint gonna get mad at u for not knowing the lore of things u prob havent even seen lol. However, that DOES mean that, as a "fanboy", i should prob give u the details on y ben is on a WHOLE different level from green lantern (at least in omniverse's case) and just to warn u, this is gonna be a LONG explanation so u should prob get comf. So first i wanna establish something. Both this fight and the death battle fight r WAY scuffed. They used ben from the original series, gave him the same powers as omniverse ben, and they couldnt make up their mind whether he has master control or not. Basically im saying both this video and death battle got it wrong, but this one was very VERY slightly more accurate, and il explain what would ACTUALLY happen depending on which ben fights gl. Now, before we discuss any fighting u need to know exactly how the omnitrix actually works. First the omnitrix doesnt just change ben into aliens, it changes him into the most genetically perfect version of that race. Meaning when ben turns into an alien, he becomes the absolute best possible version of that species. So if ben fights a klingon from star trek, and he turns into a klingon, hes basically just physically better than that klingon in every way genetically possible. Second, the omnitrix was designed with a failsafe that can do 2 things: 1. It will prevent a forceful removal of the omnitrix. It can do this by use of an energy blast if someone tries to pull it off. Removing his arm also counts, and it will change ben into an alien that can either prevent the removal or make removing his arm useless. In the case of the db video, ben ACTUALLY would have turned into diamondhead to simply break the garden shears, or into swampfire or wildvine so he can regrow his arm immediately. 2. In the event that the wearer is about to die, the omnitrix will instantly change him into an alien that will save him an example being if hes about to drown, he turns into ripjaws or someone that can breathe underwater. The omnitrix is SO advanced it can activate the failsafe immediately to prevent ben's death or loss of the watch and always gives him the alien he needs to survive the situation. Now i mentioned "master control" earlier. The master control simply gives ben full control of the watch, and allows him to change into any inside the watch alien with either his voice (and i think his thoughts in the original series). Kid ben only had it for 1 episode, alien force ben only had it for one battle, and after that, azmuth (the creator of the omnitrix) said he might give it to ben on his 18th birthday. Now that u know how both the failsafe and master control work, lets look at how gl would fare against ben. The only guaranteed victory he has against ben is No-Watch ben since that ben doesnt have an omnitrix or any powers. Kid ben prime (the original series, and "ben prime" means its the ben from the main timeline, and the most powerful) has low odds, but they are still above 0. The brute force aliens ben had in that series wouldnt stand much chance against green lantern. However the ring that gl uses IS technology, so kid ben MIGHT be able to use grey matter (a galvan) to somehow shut down the ring. He also might be able to use upgrade (the galvanomorph) to possess the ring and strip hal of his powers that way. The problem with both of these is that ben might not realize the ring is technology on his own, so unless the omnitrix gives him grey matter or upgrade instead of his actual choice (which the omnitrix is very capable of doing) he prob isnt going to win this. There is also one more alien that MIGHT defeat gl: Feedback. In omniverse, they retconned the lore, explaining that feedback was kid bens favorite transformation. Feedback is also an alien that can absorb EXTREMELY HUGE amounts of energy, as in the final episode of omniverse, the failsafe turned ben into feedback, who literally caught a big bang in his hands, then proceeded to fire it like a ki blast (im not making this up, it was a legit big bang, the universe creating kind). So feedback can potentially just absorb everything that gl creates, making his ring useless. I wont say thats DEF whatll happen, just a possibility, and the only ways kid ben is winning this fight. Also kid ben CANNOT do multiple transformations. He can only use the one alien he gets when he activates the watch, and hes stuck with that form until the omnitrix times out, so unless he gets one of the 3 mentioned above immediately, hes prob not winning. Now up to this point id say the odds have been in green lanterns favor, however once we get to omniverse ben, gl stands no chance unless ben legit immediately surrenders without a fight, which wouldnt happen unless gl is holding one of ben's family or friends hostage. I SINCERELY doubt hal would do that tho so he rlly doesnt stand any chance. Omniverse is the latest series involving Ben Prime, where he has the complete omnitrix, which means a LOT more aliens and multiple transformations. Now i personally dont know much about green lanterns physical feats or his full power, so depending on which version of hal is in the fight, he MIGHT be able to defeat even atomix (bens second strongest alien in terms of physical power). However once ben pulls out alien x, green lantern loses, as he stands ABSOLUTELY NO chance against Ben's celestialsapian form, and simply the existence of this form is why green lantern is countless leagues beneath ben 10 To start with, not only is alien x's power level is literal infinite, but he is also the most genetically perfect version of alien x. To quote the actual show, "alien x can do anything". And they mean ANYTHING, this wasnt just exadurating. Hes also omniscient. Celestialsapiens r basically infinite in power, with only one flaw. Inside the mind of each one is 2 beings, and those beings have to agree in order for a celestialsapien to use their power. This was a weakness ben had...until omniverse, where ben convinced the 2 talking faces to just let him have "the keys to alien x". Basically ben now canonically has full control of the infinite power and knowledge. What does this mean for green lantern? Simple: he loses. Every energy beam or construct that he tries on ben will be instantly vaporized. Every force field or shield that hal conjures? All alien x needs to do is place his hand on the barrier and he would phase right through it as if it werent even there. There is NOTHING hal can do to overpower alien x because green lantern simply isnt infinite in any way. In the video when gl was disappearing like thanos snapped him? This is just wrong. If ben chose to erase him, hal is gone at that literal moment. No slowly fading away, hes just gone, and no amount of willpower or imagination can prevent it, meaning instant KO. When ben split himself into a bunch of alien xs? This was also done wrong. They arent weaker copies or shadow clones or anything like that. Each one of those IS ben, and each of them is capable of independent thought. If he did use that ability, all of them would have attacked at once. Given that gl has no defence against 1 full power alien x, 100 full power ones wouldnt turn out any better for him. Now hal already lost at this point. He lost when he got erased, but ima still explain the time travel part. Even going back in time would do nothing for hal except doom him even more. In Ben 10, there exists something called the "Sotobro Effect", which in simple terms is: "a time traveler can sense when another time traveler travels through time." Basically the moment green lantern travels back in time to fight ben, celestialsapien ben (who has infinite power and control over time as well) would be able to sense gl going back in time, and of course dont forget the infinite knowledge. Basically ben would simply follow him and put a stop to whatever gl is trying to do. So yea, green lantern really stands absolutely NO chance against ben in any fight. (And u might be tempted to bring up kid ben again, but thats like comparing kid goku from episode 1 of the original dragonball series to saitama from his fight with garou. Yea saitama would ABSOLUTELY one shot goku in that fight but its not a fair comparison so that argument dont rlly matter 😂) So yea, if uve gotten to this point and u still wanna disagree, that means u didnt read everything, so go back and actually read it lol
Basically ur sticking green lantern, by himself, against someone who can solo the ENTIRE justice league + darkseid at once with a single thought...i rlly dont mean offence but according to the lore of ben 10, hal jordan really doesnt stand a chance
@@themaskedronin okay. Let's get a few things out of the way. 1.) You clearly got all your information on DC from the DCAU and know nothing of the comics for that last statement. 2.) I am a massive Ben 10 nerd. I watched the series from OG Ben 10 Episode 1 all the way to the end of Omniverse live. So your strawman doesn't work there. Alright. Here we go. Hal Jordan held back the force of every single emotion in the entirety of the infinite DC multiverse by himself. That including his own will power. He has so much will that he can overpower the force of every emotion from every being in an infinte multiverse. INCLUDING HIS OWN WILL. The DC multiverse is larger than the Ben 10 multiverse having several stacks of infinity such as the Dark Multiverse which is in itself its own infinte multiverse. That alone puts Hal beyond anything Ben has done. Go read the fight between Karona vs Hal Jordan. He operates on another level of infinte that is absurdly above the Celestialsapiens. You present Alien X with a severe no limits fallacy as if there is no limits to their power when we have shown several times before that they do have a limit. For instance even if Ben wasnt aware the universe was being erased he would have simply been able to reverse it back to its previous state after understanding what was happening. Instead he was unable to and had to make a copy. Not to mention we see beings on the same level of Celestialsapiens are able to present a danger and a challenge to them. Look back at the gladiator fight for an example of this. Now look at the point above where I show Hal perfomimg a feat beyond anything a celestialsapien is capable of. See my point? Plus. Hal has been stated to have an infinte supply of Will Power on several occasions sooooo the whole recharge state thing doesn't work. As a massive fan of Ben 10, Hal Jordan winning is accurate. The animation? No. The conclusion? Yes. Also the ring has also shown its own failsafes. Funny you don't mention that. - Like Kilowogs ring being able to resist thr erasure of the Anti-Monitor (A being who at the time was destroying the infinte DC multiverse) and send him to another universe so that he doesnt be erased as well as reversing said multiversal level erasure to keep him alive. - Nullifying time manipulation (which further destroys your time loop idea) - Celestialsapiens were the canon reason for the retcons in Ben 10? Thats funny. The Green Lanterns are canonically immune to retcons of the DC Multiverse. You may know alot about Ben 10. But its clear that you know nothing of Hal Jordan. The Green Lantern wins.
This is a real ending to be honest Ben would have easily beat Green lantern without Alien x
I agree
No, without Alien x it would be very hard
@@zadtoon2799 toepick and ghostfreak can scare Hal,which also makes him powerless
@Society he litterally scared a being of fear
@Society ghostfreak isnt the scary part, its his insides. Beside, I was talking about toepick who literally scared pure fear
I like both characters
But I’ve done a lot of research and backgrounds and fights to know that Ben would win EVEN WITHOUT ALIEN X
Cause Ben has ways of beating Hal
Hal’s ring is technology so he could use Jurryrig or Upgrade to dismantle or take control of it
Also he has Ghostfreak so he could posses him
Also there’s Feedback and Chromastone
Please don’t take this as me starting an argument just my opinion
Indeed he can defeat Hal I like Green Lantern to but we should be honest :)
Exactly honest not biased *coughs* Screwattack *cough cough*
@@spectraphantom5870 :)
every one knows that he can even use upchuck to eat all of green lantern's energy beams and send it back to him
@@leeroy3103 Indeed and Ben can also use Chromastone, Eatle and Feedback in the sameway and he can transform into Toepick and scare the hell out of Hal and he could also transform into Worst who is indestructable
I actually would've had Ben's post-battle dialogue be something like this;
"Okay, where was I? Oh yeah! The newest sumo-slammer game! Gotta go get my copy!" *transforms into XLR8 and dashes off*
this......puts a REALLY BIG SMILE ON MY FACE
X2
Id like death battle to explain how stopping some half way through you being erased magical brings back the already erased part
also how did Alien X's copies got destroyed, they aren't shadow clones that will poof away, they are real beings
@@theamazingspooderman2697IN ADDITION THEY ONLY ATTACKED 3 ALIEN X AND NOT ALL,THERE WERE MANY BUT THEY ONLY ATTACKED 3
Damn where did ben learn to hold back this much
Loving the extra scenes added
This is always satisfying :)
Thx
@gola hotel :)
Rather Ben 10 vs Green Lantern: *Accurate/Realistic* Ending
Love how when people do these alt ending for this fight Hal's last line has been mostly "Heh, not bad kid" as a fan of both it just feels like the best phrase to end it.
He doesn't need to recharge his omnitrix like the green lantern ring.
You are awesome dude can't wait for Steven killing star
Thank you for your response I really appreciate it and I am going to make Steven versus star
Yeahh
What ? Steven lost against star
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING DEATH BATTLE!!! THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD HAVE ENDED!!!!
mmhmm
Hahaha indeed
Hello Rath, aren't u angry that no one used u.
Hal: TIME. Heh, thanks for the tip pal.
4:29
Alien X: Your TIME
4:34
Alien X: is over, pal.
4:42
This is really awesome and great
That should be the ending of death battle
Even though both Characters are extremely powerful Just like in the video Ben would come out as the winner due to the fact that not only does the omnitrix have a fail safe for Ben but there other alien transformations besides Alien X that could’ve given AGreen lantern a much difficult time
Death battle must be ending like this
The true ending
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Thanks dude
Awesome
Now this... this puts a smile on my face
Wow this is awesome
Beautiful
Not bad my freind
😓Thanks I struggle with this video😓
@@jayhyperstarx6113 just wanna say Hal(Green Latern) Winning is accurate it's just the way he did that pissed people off
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 Are you a hal Jordan fan I want to make a joke this time it will be bad Hal the hell did Hal win lol not funny
@@jayhyperstarx6113 Hal would won trust me Might Of Geburah did research for this fight ask him Ben at best with alien X is Hyperversal but Hal Jordan Has done ridiculous shit such as Outerversal feats I'm sorry I like Ben more but he had no chance
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 but how tho can you show me where does that say that actually if hal outerversal
In brightest day, in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evil's might, beware my power-Green Lantern's light
In blackest day in brightest night
Beware your fears made into light
Let those who try to stop what's right
Burn like my power----Sinestro's might
Alien X-whatever, I'll take that ring.
@@aves_green4923 This is over
@@aves_green4923
Expect he couldn't.... , Hals will is to strong and he's immune to being erased.
@@l0sts0ul89 I didn't say anything about erasing him. Taking that ring is something even Batman can do.
Death Battle is a very inaccurate channel. The way they just ignore Ben's feats and let green lantern win says a lot about their channel.
Yup
They made a Q and A for this battle if you want explanations.
@@fhtswstudios4260 Some of thier answers were either wrong or made up and they did skip some important questions like how the hell did Alien X clones got disappeared ?
The parts that werent from the original where made perferctly
Wow! Just wow!
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The true outcome
Better
I t don't have a lot of new things... You put them in place and just that... With a bit more of work you can do something better on the other hand I like how your edition is and the unique thing that I don't like is the fact the battle starts with them talking and end up with that text boxes
Wait a minute
Is this battle an infinite time loop
The battle starts off with Ben in xlr8 form then having forcefield around him by green lantern
Then going back in time thing
Then when the battle finishes he goes xlr8 to find grandpa max and Gwen in just the same movement as the beginning. Dun dun Duhhhh
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someone stole your video this video is yours and someone stole it
Name of the channel?
Death battle video : Most false and fakest ending
This guys video : The true and real ending /best ending
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How? Green Lantern destroys alien x
@@JohnnySUS49 ru on drugs
@@Gohan_blacky wdym bru alien x has 6 appearances yet the best he did was make a universe hal can do much more then that
This I how it was supposed to end
nice
hrm...i would of wanted it too be a goryer death for hal...just for some...Extra satisfaction
This shouldve been the fight
It's Awesome
I think the sounds out of sync.
Why didnt he do this earlier
that is exactly what Ben would have done
Man i watched kuro debunk
Then the Q&A
And then his response, kuro is a great guy btw, people should stop being toxic from both sides
Expect he's biased and got things wrong.
Kuro's a great guy sure, but he is biased towards Ben 10, mostly focused on the animation and he literally knows nothing on Hal
Alien x le gana
VERDAD
Nice
This is over
Reasons why Ben should win:
-Ben can't die.
-Alien X is literally GOD.
Alien X is a godlike being, for sure, but he is not god. We’ve already seen Ben defeating a member of his race. On top of that, Hal defeated Krona, who controlled the seven entities of the emotional spectrum, so she was also godlike.
@@fhtswstudios4260 But Ben still can't die.
@@guywithaface887 Well he has already died a few times in the animated series hasn't he ? . Wasn't he killed by a Time bomb ?
@@guywithaface887 Well he has already died a few times in the animated series hasn't he ? . Wasn't he killed by a Time bomb ?
@@fhtswstudios4260 Correction, he *almost* died, the Omnitrix's failsafe protected him.
real ending
Exactly
Ben could've just transformed into Clockwork and make Green lantern turn to dust
Hal is immune to time manipulation...And Hal just straight up kills Clockwork before he tries that anyway.
@@nicholashewitt6223 clockwork can stop time jetray is faster than Hal feedback was able to hold the Big Bang in his hands Ben can’t time out because master control and upgrade can dismantle the ring
@@tunisino35 1. Hal is immune to time manipulation
2. No. Jetray just isn't.
3. Hal is WAY stronger than a big bang and can just punch Feedback to death...Not that Feedback was able to absorb the entire big bang anyway and rather just a portion
4. Why can't Hal just pull off the ring? The ring isn't connected to his DNA anymore
5. You know Hal's ring is no longer technology, right?
@@nicholashewitt6223 you know that alien x is nigh omipotent right and jetray is faster then Hal
@@tunisino35 Alien X being "nigh omnipotent" only means anything in his universe. Drop Alien X in VS battles and suddenly it means nothing
And show me evidence Jetray can run in the quintillions times the speed of light range.
Cool ending! In my opinion, GL clearly stomps Ben 10 but I'll just shut up and be happy that the Ben 10 fans got their victory with this video!
most of Hal's attack would phase through Ghostfreak and Big Chill anyway, plus Alien X would just think Hal's ring is erased and he has no powers anymore
That's cool and all but Green Lantern should have and did win.
Let me guess. Kuro the Artist said -Insert dumb bias about Ben 10 being unbeatable- just remember. Kurt admitted to knowing nothing about Green Lantern. Had admitted he is not a power scaler or debater. And has even admitted he was bias towards Ben. So please don't try to use his dumb videos for scaling.
How would Green Lantern win?
Ben has a failsafe that doesn't let him die, so even if he DID die, the Omnitrix would choose an alien to bring Ben back to life
@@Grag235 Straw Man, Burden of proof, and logical fallacy. It is nowhere stated that Ben's failsafe could protect him from dying every single time. Only in certain circumstances. And the whole 'bring him back with another alien' makes absolutely no sense. There is no proof that says Ben is unkillable. In fact Ben almost died to Ultimate Keven Eleven and only survived because he had a back up Echo Echo in a trunk. And almost died to Vilgax and only survived because of a secret ability that the Crystal Alien species had. Not to mention he has died in several AU. Try again.
@@TheWarriorVA It wasn't because of the crystal alien species, cause if it was then the Omnitrix wouldn't have been making the feedback to stop Vilgax from reaching it and the shards were going towards the Omnitrix so it was from the failsafe
@@Grag235 If thats your headcannon. I had the DVD and watched the Behind the scenes where they talked about that exact scene.
@@TheWarriorVA Huh, I never knew they made a behind the scene for it sorry for misunderstanding
But now that I think about it, all Ben has to do is keep an echo echo in the trunk and then he's unkillable
How Ben 10 fanboys wished the fight went.
Well yea, we wish it went this way in the original video because this is way closer to how it would ACTUALLY have happened 😂
@@themaskedronin Hal Jordan stomps. Hate to break it to ya.
Judging by ur claim, im guessing u havent seen much of ben 10. No disrespect or anything, u watch what u want and green lantern can be ur favorite character, idrc and i aint gonna get mad at u for not knowing the lore of things u prob havent even seen lol. However, that DOES mean that, as a "fanboy", i should prob give u the details on y ben is on a WHOLE different level from green lantern (at least in omniverse's case) and just to warn u, this is gonna be a LONG explanation so u should prob get comf.
So first i wanna establish something. Both this fight and the death battle fight r WAY scuffed. They used ben from the original series, gave him the same powers as omniverse ben, and they couldnt make up their mind whether he has master control or not. Basically im saying both this video and death battle got it wrong, but this one was very VERY slightly more accurate, and il explain what would ACTUALLY happen depending on which ben fights gl.
Now, before we discuss any fighting u need to know exactly how the omnitrix actually works.
First the omnitrix doesnt just change ben into aliens, it changes him into the most genetically perfect version of that race. Meaning when ben turns into an alien, he becomes the absolute best possible version of that species. So if ben fights a klingon from star trek, and he turns into a klingon, hes basically just physically better than that klingon in every way genetically possible.
Second, the omnitrix was designed with a failsafe that can do 2 things:
1. It will prevent a forceful removal of the omnitrix. It can do this by use of an energy blast if someone tries to pull it off. Removing his arm also counts, and it will change ben into an alien that can either prevent the removal or make removing his arm useless.
In the case of the db video, ben ACTUALLY would have turned into diamondhead to simply break the garden shears, or into swampfire or wildvine so he can regrow his arm immediately.
2. In the event that the wearer is about to die, the omnitrix will instantly change him into an alien that will save him
an example being if hes about to drown, he turns into ripjaws or someone that can breathe underwater.
The omnitrix is SO advanced it can activate the failsafe immediately to prevent ben's death or loss of the watch and always gives him the alien he needs to survive the situation.
Now i mentioned "master control" earlier. The master control simply gives ben full control of the watch, and allows him to change into any inside the watch alien with either his voice (and i think his thoughts in the original series). Kid ben only had it for 1 episode, alien force ben only had it for one battle, and after that, azmuth (the creator of the omnitrix) said he might give it to ben on his 18th birthday.
Now that u know how both the failsafe and master control work, lets look at how gl would fare against ben.
The only guaranteed victory he has against ben is No-Watch ben since that ben doesnt have an omnitrix or any powers.
Kid ben prime (the original series, and "ben prime" means its the ben from the main timeline, and the most powerful) has low odds, but they are still above 0.
The brute force aliens ben had in that series wouldnt stand much chance against green lantern. However the ring that gl uses IS technology, so kid ben MIGHT be able to use grey matter (a galvan) to somehow shut down the ring. He also might be able to use upgrade (the galvanomorph) to possess the ring and strip hal of his powers that way.
The problem with both of these is that ben might not realize the ring is technology on his own, so unless the omnitrix gives him grey matter or upgrade instead of his actual choice (which the omnitrix is very capable of doing) he prob isnt going to win this.
There is also one more alien that MIGHT defeat gl: Feedback. In omniverse, they retconned the lore, explaining that feedback was kid bens favorite transformation. Feedback is also an alien that can absorb EXTREMELY HUGE amounts of energy, as in the final episode of omniverse, the failsafe turned ben into feedback, who literally caught a big bang in his hands, then proceeded to fire it like a ki blast (im not making this up, it was a legit big bang, the universe creating kind). So feedback can potentially just absorb everything that gl creates, making his ring useless. I wont say thats DEF whatll happen, just a possibility, and the only ways kid ben is winning this fight.
Also kid ben CANNOT do multiple transformations. He can only use the one alien he gets when he activates the watch, and hes stuck with that form until the omnitrix times out, so unless he gets one of the 3 mentioned above immediately, hes prob not winning.
Now up to this point id say the odds have been in green lanterns favor, however once we get to omniverse ben, gl stands no chance unless ben legit immediately surrenders without a fight, which wouldnt happen unless gl is holding one of ben's family or friends hostage. I SINCERELY doubt hal would do that tho so he rlly doesnt stand any chance.
Omniverse is the latest series involving Ben Prime, where he has the complete omnitrix, which means a LOT more aliens and multiple transformations.
Now i personally dont know much about green lanterns physical feats or his full power, so depending on which version of hal is in the fight, he MIGHT be able to defeat even atomix (bens second strongest alien in terms of physical power). However once ben pulls out alien x, green lantern loses, as he stands ABSOLUTELY NO chance against Ben's celestialsapian form, and simply the existence of this form is why green lantern is countless leagues beneath ben 10
To start with, not only is alien x's power level is literal infinite, but he is also the most genetically perfect version of alien x. To quote the actual show, "alien x can do anything". And they mean ANYTHING, this wasnt just exadurating. Hes also omniscient. Celestialsapiens r basically infinite in power, with only one flaw. Inside the mind of each one is 2 beings, and those beings have to agree in order for a celestialsapien to use their power.
This was a weakness ben had...until omniverse, where ben convinced the 2 talking faces to just let him have "the keys to alien x". Basically ben now canonically has full control of the infinite power and knowledge.
What does this mean for green lantern? Simple: he loses. Every energy beam or construct that he tries on ben will be instantly vaporized. Every force field or shield that hal conjures? All alien x needs to do is place his hand on the barrier and he would phase right through it as if it werent even there. There is NOTHING hal can do to overpower alien x because green lantern simply isnt infinite in any way.
In the video when gl was disappearing like thanos snapped him? This is just wrong. If ben chose to erase him, hal is gone at that literal moment. No slowly fading away, hes just gone, and no amount of willpower or imagination can prevent it, meaning instant KO.
When ben split himself into a bunch of alien xs? This was also done wrong. They arent weaker copies or shadow clones or anything like that. Each one of those IS ben, and each of them is capable of independent thought. If he did use that ability, all of them would have attacked at once. Given that gl has no defence against 1 full power alien x, 100 full power ones wouldnt turn out any better for him.
Now hal already lost at this point. He lost when he got erased, but ima still explain the time travel part. Even going back in time would do nothing for hal except doom him even more. In Ben 10, there exists something called the "Sotobro Effect", which in simple terms is: "a time traveler can sense when another time traveler travels through time." Basically the moment green lantern travels back in time to fight ben, celestialsapien ben (who has infinite power and control over time as well) would be able to sense gl going back in time, and of course dont forget the infinite knowledge. Basically ben would simply follow him and put a stop to whatever gl is trying to do.
So yea, green lantern really stands absolutely NO chance against ben in any fight. (And u might be tempted to bring up kid ben again, but thats like comparing kid goku from episode 1 of the original dragonball series to saitama from his fight with garou. Yea saitama would ABSOLUTELY one shot goku in that fight but its not a fair comparison so that argument dont rlly matter 😂)
So yea, if uve gotten to this point and u still wanna disagree, that means u didnt read everything, so go back and actually read it lol
Basically ur sticking green lantern, by himself, against someone who can solo the ENTIRE justice league + darkseid at once with a single thought...i rlly dont mean offence but according to the lore of ben 10, hal jordan really doesnt stand a chance
@@themaskedronin okay. Let's get a few things out of the way.
1.) You clearly got all your information on DC from the DCAU and know nothing of the comics for that last statement.
2.) I am a massive Ben 10 nerd. I watched the series from OG Ben 10 Episode 1 all the way to the end of Omniverse live. So your strawman doesn't work there.
Alright. Here we go.
Hal Jordan held back the force of every single emotion in the entirety of the infinite DC multiverse by himself. That including his own will power. He has so much will that he can overpower the force of every emotion from every being in an infinte multiverse. INCLUDING HIS OWN WILL. The DC multiverse is larger than the Ben 10 multiverse having several stacks of infinity such as the Dark Multiverse which is in itself its own infinte multiverse. That alone puts Hal beyond anything Ben has done. Go read the fight between Karona vs Hal Jordan. He operates on another level of infinte that is absurdly above the Celestialsapiens.
You present Alien X with a severe no limits fallacy as if there is no limits to their power when we have shown several times before that they do have a limit. For instance even if Ben wasnt aware the universe was being erased he would have simply been able to reverse it back to its previous state after understanding what was happening. Instead he was unable to and had to make a copy. Not to mention we see beings on the same level of Celestialsapiens are able to present a danger and a challenge to them. Look back at the gladiator fight for an example of this. Now look at the point above where I show Hal perfomimg a feat beyond anything a celestialsapien is capable of. See my point?
Plus. Hal has been stated to have an infinte supply of Will Power on several occasions sooooo the whole recharge state thing doesn't work.
As a massive fan of Ben 10, Hal Jordan winning is accurate. The animation? No. The conclusion? Yes.
Also the ring has also shown its own failsafes. Funny you don't mention that.
- Like Kilowogs ring being able to resist thr erasure of the Anti-Monitor (A being who at the time was destroying the infinte DC multiverse) and send him to another universe so that he doesnt be erased as well as reversing said multiversal level erasure to keep him alive.
- Nullifying time manipulation (which further destroys your time loop idea)
- Celestialsapiens were the canon reason for the retcons in Ben 10? Thats funny. The Green Lanterns are canonically immune to retcons of the DC Multiverse.
You may know alot about Ben 10. But its clear that you know nothing of Hal Jordan. The Green Lantern wins.
The true ending