Giving The OG XBOX Quadruple The RAM | Never Done Before!
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For the first time ever, we can increase the RAM in the original XBOX from 64MB to 256MB! That’s 4 times the original amount! This has never been done before. And previously, the maximum amount of RAM we could upgrade the XBOX to was 128MB. But now that we are able to increase the RAM to 256MB are there any improvements or increase in gaming performance? Find out in this video!
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Upgrade the CPU
Upgrade the ram
i bet future video be like "Install faster GPU"
in the end, modders accidentally create *Xbox 360* by upgrading original Xbox.
Let them cook...
That'd require a whole different architecture lol
@@SonicBoone56 i didn't mean "literally" but they upgrading original Xbox as powerful as X360
@@SonicBoone56you'll require a whole different architecture in a minute young man
If they tinkered with the development kit that used G5 PowerMacs, I believe they could create an Xbox 360 PowerMac.
I prefer downloading more ram
The only acceptable way
Would you download a car?
Same, but this mod will be great for people whose internet connection is too slow to download RAM efficiently!
It's always better.
@@nick-leffleryep
I think the actual "pro" of this mod is that eventually we are gonna run out of chips to do the classic 128mb ram mod, and this is a good replacement for that eventuality.
There will be broken Xbox's to take parts from for a good long while.
I don't think that's really the point, nor a close coming problem. Compatible ram chips are most likely still in production, and are used in low power, or low capacity computational devices.
That being said, adding more deditated wam for thuh swerver is always nice.
@@TheGamersRace Yeah, you'd be surprised how many embedded systems are using cores based on Pentium era cores (system-on-a-chip) for things like restaurant bump bars, and PBXs (once upon a time anways.
@@alext3811 Yeah a lot of people don’t understand that a lot of the little pieces that make up old school tech….make up new school tech too. Yesterdays bleeding edge laptop is tomorrows “bump bars” as you put it.
The CCPway business model: they take free and open source PCB design like this, and then some Chinese сомм unists noname garage shop produces a ton of devices for profit
I love this for the "because we can" level of upgrade.
It would be interesting to see how well Half-Life 2 performs with the additional RAM
And StarCraft Ghost
True
Doom 3 as well.
R they coded to take advantage of more available ram?
Likely no change as they dont expect the increased amounts and look for the stock amount only.
In 2008 a forum user upgraded to 256mb using chips from a Compaq Presario, but because comparisons between 128 and 256 showed that there were no significant gains, this was left aside.
Particularly, I wish there was this modification for the Xbox 360 and PS3, they clearly suffer from the memory they have, especially the PS3. As far as I remember, there was a developer version of the x360 with 1GB of RAM, but it is extremely difficult to find, and quite expensive.
Yeah, I remember when this was done on Xbox Scene. Hate seeing these fake titles.
That improvised heat shield was an inspired idea, reusable and simple!
not necessary.
@@UberMicroRepairs hot air can easily blow away the tiny filtering caps on the board with how little solder there is on their pads
@@UJustGotGamed nah. Surface tension keeps them in place
@@UberMicroRepairs ok pal
@@UberMicroRepairs to a degree but i can confirm from personal experience they don't like to hold on very well
Well I can see some scenarios where additional RAM could theoretically help
+ 720p patches
+ PC Ports or better pc ports
+ Texture improvement mods in games
+ Emulators
+ Sega chihiro games
Gonna need to combine a 1.4Ghz Pentium III replacement, plus the SEGA Chihiro GPU. Might as well think about a new motherboard. :P
@@XenonG iirc the sega chihiro gpu is just the same one as an og xbox, maybe a bit higher clocked
hopefully this can allow for i/o emulation for wangan mmt1 and 2. would be really cool to be able to finally play those games at home
There are some games patched at 1080i (Halo 2 HD, PSO) that can still run out of memory even with 128MB ram mod. (in the case of halo, he had to dial down the texture cache size to make it work) If they can fix the memory speed issue on the original kernel, it would help us run halo 2 at 1080i better (the guy who made the patch theorized the game was possibly starved for memory bandwidth). Besides that, there's also the port of ReactOS that can benefit. I would like to see where this is going.
128mb is enought for 720p patches, that need 900mhz at least to run... and few need 1.4ghz cpu to run. The ram is to... install a proper OPERATING SYSTEM on the Xbox making it a MODERN CONSOLE... a Dashboard that can actually act as a operating system... imagine XBox running Android by example, its possible as Android ran so well on 256mb ram phones on the past...
My gut instinct is that the stability issues are due to the interposer increasing the length of the PCB traces. I know from personal experience that one traces being just one or two mm longer can cause errors in signaling, even at the slower speeds that these old devices run at. Also this is even more obscure, but changing the width of the traces can cause weirdness with signal reflection. If the interposer uses thinner traces and doesn't perfectly length match them then that's my bet for the core problem.
I'd say it's more likely just a faulty chip or a little extra voltage is needed
I don't know if it was still a thing in the celeron era the Xbox was built on, but older PC's if you wanted to go above a certain threshold of ram, it'd actually run slower if you didn't have an equivalent increase in the CPU cache memory that stored the increased address range of the system ram. Given the whole point of celerons was same MHz with less caching for cheaper, if this was paired with the CPU upgrade mod, would that unlock the proper speed and reliability of the extra megabytes?
I'd say that is most likely the least problematic issue here.
@@mikeyjnz You're misunderstanding that concept -- that was an issue primarily with motherboard-resident cache controlled by the system chipset, lasting from the 386 era on up to the Pentium MMX for Intel, and the K6-2/III for AMD. It wasn't necessarily the cache size in and of itself but rather the Tag RAM. Once we kicked over to CPU-resident L2 cache, like on the K6-2+ and III+, every Athlon, the Pentium Pro and onward, that issue either became much less prevalent (in the case of the K6 line) or disappeared entirely.
In short, you can throw as much RAM at that thing as the chipset will address and there will be no slowdown.
You’re saying there not impedance matched but I doubt it matters that much here.
The thing to do here is to start with 2 working unmodded original Xboxes. Take the RAM chips out of one, and put them in the other, making that one a 128 MB mod; then put these chips in the other Xbox, making it a 256 MB mod.
No waste.
You mean like stacking them on top of each other??
@@England91 that's actual the method on a v1.6 motherboard, but on v1.0-1.5 motherboards there are 4 unpopulated sets of RAM solder pads, you just need to solder the 4 RAM chips from the donor board into those 4 slots to do the 128 MB RAM upgrade. After that it's just a matter of having firmware capable of utilizing the RAM.
Why?? You can get brand new RAM chips for it today!
@@fadingbeleifs For if you're like me and have 8 spare Xboxes sitting on a shelf, lol.
Gotta appreciate the continued efforts to refuse to let this console die.
The chips should come pre-bent though imo. Just to ensure a safe and consistent install.
This and the pentium 3 upgrade are crazy advances for the xbox modding scene.
And, almost as old now too.
I like that the Xbox is becoming the Amiga of consoles. Neverending performance upgrades that don't have an immediate application, CPU upgrades / accelerators, memory expansions that weren't possible when the machine was new, it's fantastic.
Where this modification will really shine is in improving the performance of current emulators that run on the original xbox. More RAM = more space to load ROMs into for a smoother performance. But they would have to each be modified to take advantage of the extra RAM.
I was about to comment the same thing. 👍
@@fenriswolfretro6729 with more ram you can use HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 at 720p ok the original Xbox... Or increase the VIEW DISTANCE on games like Morrowind, making the xbox looks like a 360 in graphics.
There is no point. We already have a hard disk and have been using it for ROM paging for years.
i want Mame on OG xbox for 3d games like Street fighter EX And more acurate speed emulation on Neo Geo
Real ram chips will always be faster than virtual memory management @@weinerschnitzel7
Why would anyone upgrade the RAM of their original XBOX if it has no use? *BECAUSE THEY FKIN CAN* - And i think thats amazing
256mb of ram would actually be so amazing for me! It's something I've been wanting for a long time!
Amazing? Yes. Practical? Not really. Dangerous to the health of your Xbox? Possibly. I mean, I can chop my hand off if I want to... but just because I can, doesn't mean it's a good idea. 😂
@another3997
It may be a good idea if you're hungry.
You may be out of food, but you're not out of options.
I legit misheard "Prehistoricman" to "PrehistoricNAND"
I thought it was prehistoricman until I read this 😂
😂😂😂 i like "Nand" a lot more
PrehistoricRAM
Both are accurate at this rate
As you were bending the pins, I was like oh this is not good.
I like the videos, but every time I look into doing any mod myself the parts aren't being sold anymore.
Could you imagine the possibilities with a 1.4ghz processor upgrade and 256mb of ram on an original xbox? Holy smokes! I bet if there was a proper bios for something like that, it would be able to do alot more.
Exactly because the stock cpu is 700mhz with 128mb cache and the tualatin 1.1 to 1.4 are 512k cache and faster speed. A faster ram like that could help emulators for shure :p
Awesome video Tito! New out a 1.2 Ghz CPU upgrade in it too!
Don't you mean 1.4ghz
@@David-gr8rh 1.233 pentium 3 or 1.3ghz Celeron tualatins are way cheaper than the 1.4-1.5ghz ones.
Damn. I really want an og xbox. Maybe sometime in the future
Their clear green xboxes were very cool, really the most appealing console at launch considering it was playing pc games that needed systems that cost three times as much as an xbox.
Ive been seeing the prices slowly rising these past couple years. Id say the sooner the better
@@0JayDoubleUAgreed.. even a basic model would be ideal..
@@garystinten9339 absolutely. Especially since they have a fairly easy maintainance and easy to mod if u wish
i've got 3 of them i want to do all these mods to, but they keep adding to the list. the fiends. making them obsolete before i can even get them.
Maybe if this mod came out 20 years ago it would have some real potential, at least for making a better homebrew/media center Xbox, but can't imagine any developers doing anything with this in 2024.
It did, right along with the 1.3Ghz PIII mod. The difference was you either scraped the Chips of a doner board, or you bought a batch of 'em to do it. Problem is after Twenty Years of NON PRODUCTION, supply finally went the way of the Dodo as they say. This update (To that Mod), address that last issue. As to what you'd use it for?
That would likely. Be one of two things
Sega Chihiro (i.e. Virtual Cop), or a full XBOX SDK environment. Again. Same today, as it was Twenty years ago.
true... the box is dead af.... also the mod szene for the og box
You don't like the idea of using the Xbox as a classic Win98 & DOS PC?, I do, got to say, being able to just plug in an Xbox to my VGA monitor or CRT TV and firing up my favourite late 90s PC games sounds incredible, setting up a Win98 PC can be a little tedious, both from a hardware and software point of view, the OGXBOX literally has everything under the hood for complete 80s through to 2003 PC support, imagine not having to mess with drivers and settings, and turning retro PC gaming into a plug & play console experience, yes please on that for me, even Amiga OS could be run complete with MIDI and soundbanks audio compatibility.
@@Wobble2007
That sounds interesting. Has there been developments ademend stuff like Dosbox to utilise the memory?
@@Wobble2007Can you do a dual boot setup with that? Like switching freely between the Xbox retail mode and the "PC mode".
This would of been a cool *256K subscribers special* if you had waited just a day or two ❤
This is pretty cool, one thing is for worth thinking about, it could open up allot of possibility's for the home brew community with PC ports ETC. I will probably stick with my 128mb build for the foreseeable future, but I will be keeping a close eye on this project. I know JCRocky5 has been moving in this direction with his softmod, I think he has even considered 512mb support. It's crazy that even after this console has past the 2 decade mark, it still has such an active community.
a 3D printed template of some sort for bending the pins would be cool.
Create mounting holes on the PCB that lock in to pins on the template. The template would have beveled edges to press the "legs" onto with a length of firm plastic.
Thank you for this video. I am going to dust off my Crystal Xbox and do this at some point.
At around the 9:00 mark. If you prep the motherboard pads with a thin coat of solder before tacking the chip, the chip installation will go easier. I would have prepped the pads, added more flux, then tacked a few pins as you did. I would hot air this into place only because I have a board pre-heater. I get why you did it how you did. I'd have drag-soldered it too without a board heater , just with the pad prep steps I mentioned earlier. Great job all round. Subbed!
For context, micro-soldering has been my job since 1989.
PS. My Crystal Xbox is my Guinea pig machine. Anything that proves good on that makes it's way into my green machine..
well i dont think ive clicked on a video so fast. I freaking love this channel
The CCPway business model: they take free and open source PCB design like this, and then some Chinese сомм unists noname garage shop produces a ton of devices for profit
Wouldn't this be a good alternative to do the 128 MB RAM upgrades for Xboxes that are 1.6 motherboards? Since they only have four slots because this would work better versus trying to double stack RAM?
If this would alow us to do 128mb on 1.6s with 4 regular chips that would be amazing!
Amazing video as always! Along with the ModXO modchip this is probably the best modded XBox on earth. The only thing missing would be the replacement of the processor for the 1GHz that Retro Renegade Repairs made. Great content Tito!
All we have to do now is put a PCI slot in and replace the Processor and we have the most powerful Xbox ever modded 🤣
@@ffviifakeremake9997 imagine if we could tap into the motherboards chipset to add another IDE channel so that the DVD drive and Hard Disk can be ont heir own IDE controllers (and allow SSD upgrades to run at full speed while the DVD drive is being accessed)
Also PCI would be interesting but I doubt that could be done like my idea for another IDE Controler
@@nekomasteryoutube3232 You never know man... Most of these mods were just a dream at some point and look how far the modding scene has gone. Maybe it's a matter of time? *crossing fingers*
Throw in an HDMI mod and it gets better.
Or make a custom mobo with a SATA controller so we can use XB1 BluRay drives
One game I know of that runs into RAM limitations is Out Run 2... the first one, not Coast 2 Coast. There's a certain hill in one stage that can get a little juddery when you go over it and it lasts maybe a second. At least I'm assuming it's main RAM since it was originally made for the Xbox arcade hardware... not sure if there were any GPU or VRAM differences in that. Of course the game would likely have to be hacked to take advantage of any extra memory.
BTW was the Xbox outputting at 8K in your video? Or was it just playing an 8K file downscaled internally to 480p or whatever?
i enjoy your videos man
In fact the interposer pins should be shorter than the original 2001 ram chips. That allows to solder the pins without the need to bend them too much or the interposer could be designed with the pins on the pcb and that could help to solder on a 90° inclination
i would love to see someone like Modern Vintage Gamer chime in on things dealing with this ram, as he wrote the N64 emulator and some others on the Xbox, and the ram could be put to better use as shared VRAM with a rewritten BIOS and Kernel ie not just replacing a dashboard, but rewriting the implementation of binary executables like heavier emulators and DosBox or other ways to run things on it, like say a VM environment to let one boot OLDER operating systems like Windows 98 so one could run older PC games with the addition of a Keyboard and Mouse. Linux would be easy, as one could simply port a low-footprint distro like a 32 bit Puppy Linux version but built with modern 32 bit packages from Debian, for example. You could make it into a server for things like Insignia, with the extra ram being there to host other players on private games. Im suspecting with how the performance with the 8k video that cut to 1/4 ie 1080p one could possibly get the hardware to run that level of video using the extra memory as Vram. As well, Texture upgrade packs and upscaled ports could also be a thing, BUT pair this upgrade with a better CPU like the upgrades that can be done now to double that CPU speed and you could really have something there!!!
You can already boot Windows 98 on the Original XBOX, naturally the additional memory would help, especially when running other applications.
always love to see your vids on new life being brought to the xbox... ive been a fiend for the xbox since 2002 and still play on my childhood 1.0 model regularly! ive even opened it up a few times to fix the dvd drive and replace that pesky clock cap...... keep up the good work!!!
That is some nice soldering action!
This mod could really help emulators specially N64, if i remember correctly there is a memory problem when cartridge games are to big for 64mb so the emulator store some files in the HDD slowering the overal performance.
Using a modified xblast chip would allow you to test each memory module one at a time installing it. Refer to Modzville's xblast videos. Popping all 4 chips off and roux chambeau'ing the install of 8 and assuming you'd get them right on the first shot is ambitious. What should be done is remove each stock chip one at a time testing functionality of each in xblast. Replacing them in order, then proceeding to the empty slots. Another thing not covered was emulation and 3rd party software. This is known to have significant performance leaps with a 128mb console. Its also worth noting that module stacking has existed.
Having two games run at the same time would be useful for a quick resume fucntion, while the suspended game can be partially unloaded to allow for the main game to take up more resources, having a quick resume function would allow you to swap between games quickly. Not very useful in practice, but a neat function all the same.
Man, I will never get tired of the console animations in your videos. As always the rest of the video is great but the animations... Wow!
Been thinking about this a bit lol. Using flat flex like that is not ideal. I'd suggest castellated terminations for the next interposer revision. The connections would be more secure and the extra real estate can be used to address some of the issues regarding the RAM timings!
The issue is that none of the accessible PCB manufacturers will do castellated edges on such a fine pitch… hence the hack
@@jdownj That very well could be a problem. I know it's possible because I've seen fine pitch castellations, but they were on ITAR regulated assemblies.
@@Sun-ut9gr that brings up an interesting point. I have no idea if PCB technology is regulated in any way… BUT the board manufacturers that can work down to that small are probably busy doing stuff that is more profitable for them than a hobbyist project like this…
Impractical, but why am I tempted to do it all the same? Who can I tell to shut up and take my money?
Yeah, me too.
this opens the door up to kickass Morrowind modding. Between cpu upgrades, the ability to overclock the front bus (which got several of my OG's to over 800mhz), and the large amount of ram, homebrew just got a kick in the ass to pave the way to more fun weekends!!
Thanks for this information:)
Damn Half Life 2 might have benefitted from more RAM. Well, a Pentium 3 would be the actual upgrade that would make Half Life 2 work very well.
@@DavitTheCore you can overclock every original Xbox to 900mhz fsb 133 to 166 the max of the XBOX Nforce2 chip, and HalfLife2 runs flawless even in 720p with 128mb ram... But with 256mb you can USE HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 like the PC... the only that the XBOX port lacks, it uses SD textures because of the low ram.
@@SargentoDuke I guess that could very well work! I'm not sure the end result would be as good as a Pentium 3 modded Xbox (just like shown by modern vintage gamer).
@@DavitTheCore Xbox had a way better Motherboard than a pentiumIII and way better optimized software
What could an Xbox do with such memory
Finish the video
my taxes?
Nothing, literally.
Nothing useful. Each home-brew app, each game must be modified to utilize additional RAM. As there are no devs working on software patches and the mod itself is not trivial, it will never gain meaningful user-base. One day you may see some random game patched, or some app with 256mb support released, but that's it.
Run StarCraft Ghost
This is so interesting, your last video on the Raspberry Pi Pico blow my mind. Which Raspberry Pi Pico should I pick up to mod the original Xbox? I've seen one called the Raspberry Pi Pico W and I'd like to see more Raspberry Pi modding in the future 👍
This is what the scene is all about doing mods with less the stellar results to hopefully one day be stellar results lmao
Think this is the earliest I've ever caught a video after upload😂
The PCB design is really nice! Would be really cool if you could add higher storage ram modules. Like a 512mb chip to the PCB. End up with 4gb of RAM haha
Doesnt have the same architecture so it wont work...
Hoping this sparks some interest back into the modding scene to have someone patch software to add an option to tweak variable ram usage so the system itself can determine (equivalent of adjustable bar like more modern pc systems today) the ideal amount of ram as well as manual slider option for tweakers to get the ultimate setup.
I’d never try this mod. But I love stuff like this great video man!
So we have a mod now for both a faster processer and more Ram for less faster loading and less crashes.
Just something as a console gamer that throws me off since I am very old school.
We have CPU upgrades, we have RAM upgrades, we have DVD ROM upgrades, and we have SSD mods…
Now we just need a GPU upgrade.
At this point we might as well go all in with a custom mobo running a modded Xbox BIOS. There must be a surplus of older CPUs and GPUs out there with similar architectures like Core2Duo and certain Nvidia GPUs that we could plop onto said board with a skt775 DDR2 memory controller and a GB or 2 of RAM
That would probably do more for Ops 1fps YooTube at 8k woes. Least we forget the XBOX basically had a gForce 2GTS Chip inside it. Which was already old by the time they put it there.
RTX 4090
@@AmaroqStarwind might as well buy a new PC
@@Ichijoe2112 The NV2A is basically a GeForce 3.5, closer to a GF4 which is a powerful GPU relative to its generation, it is more than enough for games of that era, especially considering that GPU was designed with 1024x768p to 1280x960p in mind, and the OGXB only needs to render @ 240p-480p, add to that almost zero OS overheads, fixed hardware optimizations and the bare-metal API, you could say it squeezes at least 50% more performance vs its desktop equivalent. It's just starved of RAM, unfortunately.
Tito is the Mr. Rogers of the modding scene and I am here for it!
another great video brother!
almost 20 minute video and you're not gonna show any games running with the ram upgrade? not gonna show 720p video playing on it at full speed? what a waste of time.
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Agreed. A lot of fluff dressed up nice
720p needs a CPU upgrade to run... or overclock the stock CPU to 900mhz, or change the CPU to 1ghz or more with a 370 interpoder, that is WAY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THIS RAM UPGRADE, having a new ram modules that are DDR2 adapted for the original xbox is awesome, as its a "new part" not like the CPU that are "limited old hardware". Anyway, all XBOX can run at 900mhz even 1ghz from stock, overclocking by software.
There are no patches for use that ram, but for example games like MORROWIND you can use 256mb de ram to increase the VIEW DISTANCE.
Recommend spending a little more time finding an actual use case to demo this. Playing an 8K video is an utterly useless benchmark.
Which is exactly what he said in the video... but he also said, there's nothing that can take advantage of the extra RAM at this time. I guess listening and comprehension aren't your strong points. 😆
Great idea! Keep going !!
i am astonished that this works from both hardware and software standpoints
5 views in one minute? bro fell off
3 likes in 3 minutes? Blud fell off
Why so toxic
@@Maximus20778 it's a joke :/
Can't wait to see where this ram mod takes us in the future
I’m so happy to see the scene still thriving! Long live the greatest modded console
Nice! What temperature was your heatgun at when desoldering the RAM chips?
Great watch as always. Hope you will consider doing a video on the new Benn Venn GGHD IPS screen. I would like to see your perspective on this new version compared to the older GG IPS screen from a few years back.
A real cool mod that doesn't do much of anything. Bummer... great job on the sweet work!
It seems like a 3d-printed jig for bending the interposers gently and evenly could also prevent the issue. I do wonder if just making the interposer a flex PCB instead of a solid PCB wouldn't also work though.
As someone of whom the art of soldering is lost upon, you sure did make the process look easy.
Dude, you have the best intro music on CZcams. Just my opinion. ❤
Pretty sure this has been done before, but it's still rare and difficult. Good job accomplishing this.
Actually with the 256mb of ram it might be possible to do what the new xbox does and that is keep a running game running but in the background while being able to open up and run another game. and be able to switch back and forth between the two. Or even a website loaded in the background.
I upgraded the hardware so it uses nvidia rtx 4080, 64gb ram, nvme ssd, now it run windows too, then can play xbox games.
Wow, this is an amazing mod. Can't wait to see what else comes of it.
ReactOS can run on the original Xbox. 256MB of RAM is more than enough for a normal ReactOS install on a normal PC. If ReactOS got further support, it could eventually be an option for treating your Xbox like a Windows XP PC
Your music selection 🤤🤤 its proper
Many years ago, I bought 4 extra RAM chips for the Xbox. After the struggle to put them in, and it makes sense, there was no benefit from what I saw. The software I ran had all been designed for 64megs and had no idea the other memory was there. Maybe some emulators will be written to use it, but most of the older systems already fit into the 64 megs already installed. Would be nice to be able to make a RAM disk as a cache but that seems like a lot of work for very little return.
I remember people doing this a few years back by stacking the original ram modules on top of each other, so even this is a far easier install comparatively. Would love to see where this project ends up once a bios is built to really utilize it as well as some game mods to hopefully make use of it
Great video once again.
Just a tip when using the hot air gun, the nozzle you had on, although it worked, it can be a pain as the hot air is narrowed down to a small spot, for something like the RAM chips, its actually much better to have no nozzle at all or a large one, that way you get more surface coverage and will lift in one with less chance of pulling/tearing off a trace.
Might feel like god to be an expert at hot air nozzles and nick-picking others with your special knowledge.
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@@user-yk1cw8im4hstop being rude, big nozzle = wider area, it's like a hose. It doesn't take a gods knowledge to know that, just simple physics
@@stevenbryant1011 That guy clearly doesn't watch or listen to the videos, I hear a lot "Im not an expert in soldering, any tips will be helpful" and you know.. someone thinks i'm been a "god"... I just don't entertain people with a sad life that they have to put others down for helping in future projects, damned if you, damned if you don't with them kind of people.
tito uploaded a new video?
0k, time for my weekly therapeutic session.
These interposers are quite cool and definitely have applications outside of xbox upgrades. Many retro devices using that the SGram or SDram package type could possibly take advantage of them. Retro graphics cards for example.
Watching someone with this level of soldering skill is mesmerizing
You really need a chisel tip when installing RAM. One of the reasons I bought a TS-101 from Ali, it comes with 7 different tips (which are replaceable UK side for £12 each if you burn them out). I cringed when I saw a pointed tip because coverage to the pins is limited (hence your fractures when you attempted to solder them). Doing the 128mb, I don't even remove the heatsinks, just fly through it, just a tip for the future. Keep the solder limited and feed same as you was doing. Certainly interested in the process, will have to reach out see if I can try a set UK side. As always thanks for a nice clear vid and tut. Time to sub
Might want to stake those modules down with some silastic/RTV or even some hot glue after verifying they work.
As far as the stability issues, it could also be the mapping of the traces on the interposer itself. More testing would be needed to figure it out. This is an awesome project though. Amazing work!
This dude can solder
Thank you for your video 🤩
Ok, taking old bios into modern one would be interesting 🎉, though I very much appreciated the efforts
Damn, I watched this video and saw your sub count is at 255K, woulda been truly insane if it was magically at 256K for this video, like poetic almost haha, oh well!!...
So did you only put four new RAM chips on the top side and not on the bottom side I really couldn't tell. Is there more slots open on the bottom side?
This is such a cool mod! Been thinking bout trying to upgrade mine to 128mb but didn't get to it yet tho. I'm curious what the future holds for a 256mb xbox tho.
Fun fact: There's a certain model of PlayStation 1 (SCPH-5000) that you can upgrade to 8MB of RAM for better homebrew compatibility.
Not being individual pins I think it helps a whole lot better to bend them all at once and it does looks more modern
It's always cool to see people finding something new with og xbox when you think everythings been done
Seamus Blackley is smiling right now
Instead of rigid flex, you may be able to use castellated edges as the connection. This would completely solve the bend problem and make the mfr process cheaper.
God, the OG Xbox community has never stopped progressing at all. Never died, never slumped. I wish I could say the same for other beloved consoles, but truthfully most console scenes go dead for awhile, like the PS3 community currently. And some consoles have yet to have a vibrant homebrew and modding community, like fact the Neo Geo Pocket Color has no modding or homebrew development aside from IPS and flash cart mods. Makes me wonder what exactly keeps the OG Xbox community still thriving.
this isn't the first 256 mod u could place 16 chips on top of each other, but i am glad to see this as its a more fordable and less hassle way to do upgrades these days.
That heat shield is awesome
It’s cool to have more RAM but it only benefits homebrew apps at the moment.
But at least you can be future-proof for something like a potential modded BIOS that can improve official game performance.
For now, I am waiting for the ultimate end-game mod to play my “legally purchased” game backups
I’ve heard of 128MB upgrades but never 256MB! This is amazing! Do… do… you do mail-in upgrades for disabled fans?
Not to mention the ultimate 1+GHz CPU upgrades (1.5GHz)
Then a 4TB SSD upgrade, upgrade the VRAM, a Blu ray optical drive, and dual boot the mod launcher/or Linux or FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD.
Biggest issue rn is needing someone to reverse engineer the nvidia driver / hardware to properly merge it into the Mesa or Mesa Amber nouveau project for OpenGL acceleration on Linux/*BSD, etc.
(Honestly would love to see SerenityOS with X11+Mesa full 2D/3D acceleration)
So then… run one of those operating systems on here… and then have an Xbox emulator running on that… so emulating the games on upgraded native hardware via a UNIX-like OS that also gives us a full desktop OS experience to be used as a Plex front end, TUI Discord frontend, and many more modern but light weight solutions.
I'm sure another application would be mods that change textures. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see coupled with the CPU upgrade.
Now that the 1GHz CPU Upgrade and the HDMI mod and we got a perfect Xbox