BMW 335i AliExpress Big Brake Kit: 12 Months Later
Vložit
- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- BMW 335i AliExpress Big Brake Kit: 12 Months Later
If you want to get a set of these i would recommend getting them straight from the source. Please mention our channel and ask for a deal.
Become a member and get exclusive discounts at www.ZeroTo60.com plus other unique perks and benefits:
/ @zeroto60tube
In Australia? Visit the Zero To 60 Shop! www.zeroto60.com
Follow our socials for BTS stuff and more car content
On Instagram: / zeroto60tube
On Facebook: / zeroto60tube
Business Enquiries: zeroto60tube@gmail.com
---------------------------------------------------------
0-60 and 100-200 Dragy timer: amzn.to/2IKMQr0
---------------------------------------------------------
Our Must Have Tools:
Car Trim removal set: amzn.to/3oQhsHe
Under bonnet led light: amzn.to/3aaDJLt
Electric Rattle Gun: amzn.to/380Eh41
3/8" Drive torque wrench: amzn.to/34aGzwy
1/2" Drive torque wrench: amzn.to/37gGUPZ
---------------------------------------------------------
Our Must Have Car Care:
Hybrid ceramic: amzn.to/2KlkMuP
Tyre shine: amzn.to/2WcRzox
XL microfiber dry towels: amzn.to/2IShFdC
Wash mitt: amzn.to/3oQM7UA
---------------------------------------------------------
Our Camera Gear:
Ultimate camera/gear bag: amzn.to/2Kj1N46
Action/vlogging camera: amzn.to/37eWawM
Non-vibrate suction mount: amzn.to/3a9vmjy
Wireless mics for in-car audio: amzn.to/3a8C1dH
---------------------------------------------------------
When we're not working on cars, we're watching the Grand Tour!
amzn.to/3qXghY4
It's so hard to find honest reviews of kits like these, so I highly appreciate the effort to make a video like this. Keep them coming!
I was very nervous about them at first. Which you may pick up on. 18 months on these things rock.
Appreciate your honesty and integrity with these brake kits! It all comes back to you in the end! I now understand where your coming from 👍
Thanks very much dude. We'll see. The ali brakes have been one of the more popular things we have done and one of the most annoying.
Good on you mate, you have held onto your integrity and stuck to your guns. appreciate it. I really do hope the next set of revised BBK for the car works out and if so will look forward to a budget option for those of us with little to spend! again great vid and well done!
On a Platform like this, I agree protect yourself. You do not want to be in the crosshairs of a lawsuit. So this review is great and I applaud you not sharing the info.
Good for you! Hope the next set is worthy of your recommendation and rebranding as 60 to 0 or Full stop with just the . On the caliper :)
i forgot the name of the manufacturer, when you said it again it made my day. Who would have thought DickArse would leave you regretting the experience..
Glad to hear you're getting it sorted, I've had a few similar issues with the same site. Will be interested to see what the bigger bosses say and do, and come up with, and if that works, I would definitely love to know contact details for them.
Does pay to stick to you guns on some things, I was always taught there are 3 things you never mess with on a car. Brakes, steering and suspension. Good, honest review after a year in.
Great review and heads up, appreciate it mate. I can't believe that people have been crapping on you..
🤬.
You (and Dave) have always been nothing but honest, open and up front about everything. It's refreshing and I love it. Keep it going.
Thanks Cocko👍 Hows your beast going lately? Get your DME sorted yet?
@@ZeroTo60Tube you honestly do deserve it buddy. This channel is the main reason I bought an N54 after all, let alone everything else.... 😉.
DME is not sorted, I'm still a wheel spinning mess with no ESC or even comfort access. The guy who was attempting a fix on the DME seems to be ghosting me now 🤬🤬🤬🤬
@@cocko1135 what's wrong? No comfort access, bad door handle maybe? Need full scan of vehicle to start.
@@igotaction my DME was inundated with water and I have swapped out DME's while mine is being "fixed". So at the moment I have a DME and CAS that are not aligned with my VIN, causes a few issues.
Thanks for the tip anyway mate, appreciate it.
@@cocko1135 CAS/DME "calibration" should just be a software function, I just had to replace my CAS for no terminal 15 output from CAS (to energize terminal 15 relay) and I remember it gives different instructions (the software) on if you replace CAS/DME, just CAS and just DME. Best of luck mate!!!
Your brakes feels spongy because you have floating rotors which tend to wiggle the pads away from the rotor during acceleration minimising unwanted friction thus allowing you to accelerate faster. Now the down side is you must pump the brakes slightly to “fix” the rotor and get the pads to move closer then the next brake pump should provide a solid feel 👍
Good on you for sticking to your principles. Keen to hear about the other set you've got on the way when they arrive. My 135i has the 6-pots as standard, so not after a set (I'll be changing to decent pads and CSL discs come replacement time), but interested nonetheless.
CSL discs are awe fully sexy. Saw one at a local shop the other week. It makes the China discs look dated to say the least.
Exactly what everyone has said mate, honest opinions. Can never go wrong being upfront and honest. Thank you.
This is why is subbed one year ago... :-) Thanks for the update...
No worries man. It’s been such a weird product to talk about. And getting confidence in the seller has probably been my biggest issue. They are happy to copy a genuine part, so building my trust in them has taken a long time. Finally starting to speak to professionals at their end.
In the end all you want from this kit is the calliper bodies and brackets… braided lines, piston seals, bleeder nipples, mounting hardware, discs, and pads can all be swapped out for better quality at any point in time, as needed. It’s a good base point for someone like me.
To be fair the kit i got from them in 2021 was much better. Just ordered my third kit last week. Will see how good the stuff is now.
@@ZeroTo60Tube my concern is not getting the right bracket or rear discs (I have a hub style handbrake like yours)
@@alexbare7181 Well i can put you in contact with my contact there!
@@ZeroTo60Tube would appreciate that but I probably won’t have funds for em till tax time anyway haha
My biggest concern with the quality of metal issues you're highlighting is the overall strength within the caliper. How truly strong is the casting? I would worry that over time the mounting areas would fatigue and lead to cracks. You get what you pay for as always..
The china manufacturers should know how to make a safe strong calliper. It just depends on whether they bother with the copy products. which are no doubt sold to a price and nothing else.
This was a really interesting video, nice update! Still waiting for the spray job on the callipers 😉
Another great vid. Sorry to hear about previous rood comments! I’m keen to see more on brakes so I’ll be watching what more you’ll be showing. Many thanks.
Appreciate the concern. I’m sure they were just too foolish to understand the situation. But they are the type of people that absolutely should not be fitting brakes.
We don’t get many haters and we are generally pretty easy going on camera. So it was a shock when people were annoyed with us for not wanting to risk their life…… lol.
Good to see this a year later. I was excited when I first saw them as they look so similar, but I think it makes sense they did not age well.
In the M135i, the brakes feel a lot as you describe, a bit spongy at low speeds an a bit too grabby at crawl speeds, but at higher speeds they shine more. Big thing I noticed going from a 09 370Z to a 2016 M135i, it was not confidence inspiring until I used then at higher speeds.
You know, all your videos on these were the reason I didnt go for them, ended up getting genuine m4 calipers from a wreckers car and installed 370mm rotors.
I really appreciate how you set things out and have the truth in front, probably that and how you guys show genuine emotions is why I stuck around lol
Really appreciate it man. These were such an unknown item. Hopefully the manufacturer continues to be more transparent.
Is it possible that the pads you have work better at high speed because of the material used to make them. I believe some pads are designed for that use, they need the heat. Anyways, I appreciate the honesty. Absolutely love this channel and you really do deserve more subscribers and views. Keep up the great work because I for one do get a lot of good information from you that I can trust. Thank You 👍🏻👏
Thank you for the update!!
It’s a tough one. Seeing the genuine brembos on the m4 did make me feel better about these. But things like the brake lines and crappy quality hardware are a worry. makes you wonder what other corners were cut.
FWIW the Carillo Box the Chinese rods came in was a pretty good fake, but I was just at their office to pick up rods and pistons.
The carillo box was not fake 😳…… but they weren’t our rods haha
@@ZeroTo60Tube see I said the box looked good😉
I’m not a 100 on this but it looks like you have the right front rotor mounted behind the hub flange. If this is intentional I’m just wondering why. If anyone sees this the video is a little old at this point. Thank you for your time.
Its not. Mounted as per normal. Still have these brakes, they ended up much better than i expected.
I got M3 master and full depth pads. Stops better than originals. I took the risk on these and it payed off. Not the best quality but look a lot better than stock.
Thanks for sharing
@@ZeroTo60Tube There seems to be only 2 main supplier of these type replica brakes. I contacted the supplier you got yours from but they wouldn't do custom brackets. So i went with other supplier. They must be getting the blanks from the same foundry as I have the same issues as yours. They even gave me the long brake lines in the rear. Issue with dealing with Dicase factory is they don't speak English.
What brake pads did you get? Do you have a part number ?
@@cptrey No part number. Matched to original 335i discs.
I made the mistake of purchasing Chinese made rotors from a “reputable” shop that told me they were great and inexpensive…. After 1000 miles I have to say the rust just throws off the look of what should be a luxury vehicle. Akebono and Zimmerman are what I should have went with from the get go (non big break kit). Brembos are great but greatness always comes with a hefty price point. Andrew if I may make a request, a draggy 1/4 mile time upload would be amazing 👍🏻. I bet she’ll do low 10’s possibly crack high 9’s. Thanks in advance.
I always wanted to do a 10 on a unprepared surface. But i don't think i can get it to launch fast enough. 1/4 run will be on the cards soon-ish.
Look up tofu buildings in China. Diet instead of concrete beams ,rebar that you can snap. There's a middle ground that isn't isn't cheapest or the most expensive
@@Michael-lg4wz after watching that in speechless 😶 another reason why I dislike high-rise buildings
Few of us in UK have these with the updated rear brackets,
Agreed the supplied bolts are garbage, I also used stock bracket bolts,
The nipples leaked very bad, the nipple seats were not true so it didn't matter if you used oem nipples, or tightened them down hard, still leaked, so we had to use seat repair kits ,
The standard black pads are absolute garbage too, we were supplied with some red higher temp pads which are much much better, and the initial bite is much better, you're right the black pads bite is terrible.
The only real problem I've ran into is the pads have started to click about when going from reverse to forward, there's a bit of movement and it's not a nice sound / feel in the pedal, yet to figure out what that's started to happen.
All in all, to me these brakes were better value still than sourcing a rusty old set of 380s from an M, touch wood.
Bit weird also that people were rude to you, strange
Looking forward to the new brakes!
"Nice rusty ring" lol
Hey Dude, Just a tip heat those rusted bolts up and then put them into oil.. This will rust proof the bolts.
I've been thinking about just replacing them to be honest.
....and another one. They ask the client what logo they want on the calipers. As for chipped paint on calipers, my Maserati has original equipment brakes, the brand you mentioned in your video, and they are all chipped in 40k miles.
Just got my 335i, gonna get MHD tomorrow 😏
Great to hear an honest review. I can only think it will lead to a better product down the track. Now on to the paint and rusty parts, have you considered getting the parts Cerakote(d). Works well for motocross and they have a high heat product specifically for brakes.
Is it possible to get cerakote for consumers in aus ?
If the new kit still have the same looking bolts, I think I’ll just nip to the hardware store and buy some decent ones. It’s only the 8 bolts that bolt the caliper to the bracket so not too bad
Why am I getting the vibe that you think that they did pretty good for how much they cost? I mean you’re still running them. That said I am 100% against them putting Brembo on the caliper. But it seems like Dicase is a good alternative to $4000 brakes!! At least that’s what I see a full front and back big brake kit costing. Question is, if they used better materials could they make a quality brake kit for a lot less than some of these companies that are charging prices that you would need to be either sponsored or rich to buy? I’m never going to spend $4k on a big brake kit for my VW Gti. If I had it like that then I wouldn’t be driving a Gti.
I was very hesitant at the time these were installed. But they are actually fair damn good. Calipers and rotors have been faultless. Some of the hardware was iffy. But newer versions this has been rectified.
Sounds like they are using cheaper tool steel for the hardware with low or no chromium content. Also some china stainless isnt stainless because the chemical composition can be a bit all over the place and not have enough chromium compared to say German or Australian steel. Also stainless is really expensive compared to high carbon tool or blade steel like 1060, 1070 or 1080 series steels. Thats where a lot of the cost on genuine stuff goes. Materials that can be 3 or more times the cost and be much more sensitive to heat treatment processes.
Sorry there is arsholes who bug you... Any way can you do the brake flush video as it's something I'm looking to do ASAP... Love the channel keep up the great work!!!
I’m not saying in anyway your wrong with what your saying. But take a look at your ball joint bolts. There all rusty and if you like keeping your car clean by washing it I’d love to see a brake disc not have rust on it and metal bolts unless they have rust protection on them.
Hey Andrew, sooooooo can I buy your brakes? 🤣 great review though mate honest and upfront 👍
No worries Tim, I have no problem risking your life. Can I have your turbos if you do get killed by the China brakes?
@@ZeroTo60Tube thank you for making me feel special I'm amending my will as we speak.
I'm laughing my ass off listening to your Chinese aftermarket brake parts adventure man. Not sure if you're trying to bee funny but it's f@cking hilarious.
Mocking aside, they actually turned out better than expected. Nearly 2 years on over 700hp on this car, track days, daily use, have them on my other car as well which is over 800hp. DICKASS actually made a decent product once the fitment issues were rectified.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Don't get me wrong I did just spend some time tracking myself down a set for my e92 335i. I'm guessing the calipers are bound to show up with "brembo" logos on them but I intend to paint over them with my shop logo either way...justifies a tax write-off and removes the guilt lol.
Has anyone ever bought the carbon ceramic discs from aliexpress?
That's pretty normal for rust . even the clear coat wear.. The hardware is definitely not stainless-steel i would buy kit replace the hardware..
they are stainless. just not 304. three out of the four diff grades of stainless are magnetic and have less anti-corrosive properties. can't blame them for not giving you top their hardware with their price. i've had genuine gt6 on my g35 and the hardware and nipples did the exact same things.
With the price being, I prefer this made in china set over the Aussie/ American made ones.
Good job bro youre the man dont give in to the idiots
Thanks dude.
You can not buy cheap brakes for motorsport use and complain about a product that is not intended for motorsport.
These are not for racing purposes. What's the reason to write a bad review about this product if it didn't meet
your expectations for the purpose you bought them?
Front brakes are 900 to 1200 delivered to your door. Why didn't you purchase original Bremb... equipment paying 4k or 5k per wheel for front brakes?
You were expecting the same quality product 10 times cheaper than the high-end brake kit?
And all these just for some rusted bolts and brake hose protection springs issues, instead of spending 200 on the internet to replace the hoses and bolts.
I think you have missunderstood, although i do appreciate you taking the time to comment. Everything i mention people looking buying these brakes should be aware of. Thats why its mentioned. Also people should not put brembo logos on these and then try to sell them as genuine.
Hi, do you mind making a short video for what is like today? 24months after, do you see more issues with it?
Thanks!
Looking forward to the new ones :)
So I’m currently in the market for big brake kit for my e92 coupe. It will be for my daily so no massive speeds or anything like that. It’s mainly the look and wouldn’t be using floating discs. Would you recommend these or should I not bother?
Thanks a million. Keep up the great work
I would really recomend them. I have 3 sets now.
So "shit ass" will be the brake logo? Hahaha. Thanks for being real about em. I'm running chines slotted/drilled rotors and akibono ceramic pads on my e90 335, they are awesome on the street. Not sure how a track would treat em tho
One thing I will never cheap out on is suspension and brake. That’s a no no for me
Thank you for that review Andrew... thank you for pointing out all the s@#$% stuff... i actually got the same kit, different pattern... a few months after you did your install... but mine seem to hold up better... to be fair my brake lines were different from the box... no springs... but my pedal feel is exactly as stock... and at high speeds as you said really controllable... i did change the pads to a genuine pads a few weeks ago though... and it even better now.... my worst 2 experiences are the rotor wear.. i mean for 10 months of use you can already feel a lip developing around the edges... which inthink is too early a time... but metal quality is the name of the game i suppose... and these are cheap metal... and the other thing is the rear brackets... after 2 revisions i still had to modify them at a local machine shop to get them to fit perfectly... and yeah... i wouldn't recommend these... especially for i high performance track car...i mean for just looks you will get away with it... even for drag races and roll racings where you push them for a short distance... but for an actual track i wouldn't trust these.... cheers for your honesty mate and for being responsible and holding your ground.... cheers from Beirut...
Glad to hear, I have sent over 1000 messages to my contact and now Dicase directly since I got my kit trying to work out the issues and convince them change things. They say they would but you never really know. Looks like you got some of the upgrades back then which is great.
I don't if i got upgrades... it might be i just got lucky... 😃
Is it just me or does Dicase sound and look a lot like Dickase from their branding online ? I hope it works out in your favor
Great update! thank you. Dicase is the mfg, the K is from the caliper series - Knight. So translation happens and get dicKass. LOL
How did you get the exhaust tips so clean?
Nice!
Where is most problem with these? Rusty bolts or discs? Then for do this review really good…You need to compare to original brembos. I can promise You after so many big companys BBK…You will not see difference😆
Off the topic but how was the idle afrs issue you had lately fixed?
It came good eventually. I think it was a mix of incorrect injector settings and then doing 87 adaptation resets in a row and not letting it properly adapt.
Hello bud. I was looking to get 6 piston calipers for m340.. Brembo. Fake. Or. Dickcase what would you recomend?
I really can't fault dicase. Check out the link in description and speak to them directly at the factory.
@@ZeroTo60Tube dicase performing better?
Why didn't you just get the 370mm brembos of the newer BMW 3 series.
Good point.
I assumed you hadn't told anyone as you were unsure on the safety and quality of them and didn't want to be held responsible if something happened. It didn't occur to me it was because people were being rude!
The quality was the main issue, but peoples attitudes to getting the copies is why, i legit lost interest in talking about them. However, every week even now the original video series still gets multiple comments and questions. So figured i would do a vid while the car was on the hoist and i was finally fitting the new rear brake lines. My take last year, was ordering these is pretty easy, you need to know what you need in the kit, you need to know rotor and caliper specs and it shouldn't be too hard to work that out and make sure who ever you order from will provide the right stuff. If you struggle with that, you absolutely shouldn't be fitting brakes at all and will need help through the entire process. Something i can't do for everyone.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I understand what you are saying regarding "if you don't understand simple specs? Leave well alone" but that's a part of your channel isn't it? Specing cars out, modifying, learning as you go?
@@DG-ox6bg Personally i think you absolutely should not learn as you go with brakes. Brakes and even certain parts of suspension work (if a bolt comes loose) can kill someone. It's very different to playing with power mods or fixing oil leaks. At least if a power mod fails, you get misfires or break down or in a bad case maybe a fire. Brakes is something you must understand to be looking at. With unknown braking components you need to be able to look at something and know if its going to work and be certain every time you touch the brake pedal it's going to work. If i was confident that every set coming out of china was the same it would make it an easier path, but so many things need to be checked in the supply chain. Its really a bit of a mess and the reality was i got the feeling no one cared in that supply chain. It inevitably comes down to the installer to know things are right.
@@ZeroTo60Tube you don't have to tell me, I'm an engineer, but I semis that's why people ask you what brakes you use and who you bought from, so they don't have to guess.
But it's your channel. You can tell people what you like...or not.
You may not know but in the early days I got lied to by the seller, then they wouldn’t fix the issue, they also don’t send the same stuff every time. My bleed nipples never actually leaked, but I know of people who bought before and after that did. So my particular set has a different nipple.
We wouldn’t have been recommending the same product without overseeing the entire purchase process.
It was a very difficult situation to want to put yourself in the middle of. To this day these are the one product I was genuinely worried about.
But you are also right, it is our channel, we don’t have to share anything, we don’t have to answer comments or engage with the audience. But we do try and help the DIYer and money savers where we can.
Your integrity is what we need so much more of in this crooked world. The people out there that think lying is fine if they get away with it are sorely mistaken. Thank you!! Oh yea and......... They did after all change their name to "DicfAce" to clear up any confusion or rude ideas about their name.....lol. If they would just not try to use a very popular brands name after all is said and done a lot of us could have been quite happy knowing they were just a much cheaper version of a big brake kit IMHO. They actually do sell many versions of big brake kits under new names for very cheap so anyone wanting them is able at any time to buy and use etc at their leisure.
Thanks Greg. It’s been such a weird thing watching people get but hurt over me not helping them buy something I’m not confident in. I’m now at the point where those people just get hidden from the channel. They are so thick, I would make money giving them a link to buy them. All I have done is cost myself money by not recommending the brakes.
What sway bar end links are you using?
Just stock.
@@ZeroTo60Tube 4:01 didn't know the stock ones are adjustable.
Not enough chromium in the stainless is why it's rusting all of the cheap stainless steel does it.
What's every ones opinion on the chinese turbos for the 335i
Nothing but love for the price mate
I think they are great for the money. But the money doesnt stop with the turbos. You have to keep that in mind.
@@ZeroTo60Tube what do you mean
@@derekporter66 The cost turbos are irrelevant in comparison to what you need to put on the car to make the vehicle a reliable and fast package. I did cover this in more depth in a video last month.
@@ZeroTo60Tube will check it out. Thanks
60 to Zero big brake kit 😆 !
Ahh yes the gatekeeping until you benefit is strong on this one.
He obviously could’ve benefited already but chose not to promote them
@dangelo Must be nice living in a bubble. The most monetary gain would have been had promoting these, so many fools would have clicked the link and I would have made hundreds out of each sale. However how many people would have been subjected to dangerous brakes, being supplied the wrong parts, never getting what they order….. but make the stupid comments to make yourself feel better. I never stopped anyone from doing some research and buying these themselves. The only thing I stopped was making money myself out of recommending them.
Please try not to make silly uneducated comments in the future.
I am not brave enough to install such kit on my car 🙂
Cheers man, u definitely made a good move with the Rick roll lol just think, if u wouldve advocated these or given out the link, those who ended up buying this kit wouldve suffered these same issues and more than likely wouldve blamed YOU or talked shit about YOU for giving out the link... that's just how idiots think and react.. good on you for not 🤘😬
Man i forgot about the rick roll link..... Just checked its over 3600 rick rolls now. hehe. It was so bizzare, people got mad with me because i didnt want to make money out of them buying cheap brakes....
If brembo tried to shush you blink twice 😳
Maybe try like dickass or other brands that dont reall copy 1:1
A nice rusty ring 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sorry just had to
The original Brembo on my M135i were absolute shite, and Eurocarparts sell so called original Brembo. All crap. So don’t think original is much better
I think a lot comes down to pad compound. The 135i brakes are small as well. Smaller than the 335i non brembo. They look cooler tho.
Why would give oxygen to a product that was an illegal copy?
2 main reasons. Firstly people think for some strange reason Brembo actually make these brakes in China. Meaning people think the cheap fakes are real. Secondly too many people are buying these from China and then selling them locally to unsuspecting victims. Also in case you didn't realise, early every aftermarket standard replacement part is a direct copy of an OEM part. You can buy aftermarket discs, pads, steering joints, wheel bearings, brake lines, tail lights, head lights and so on that all look exactly the same as the OEM ones. The only thing that actually makes these illegal is people saying they are made by Brembo (and putting that sticker on them). I think people need to be aware these exist and keep it in mind when buying brakes not through proper channels, like second hand or even dodgy shops.
I'm pleased you haven't promoted counterfeit products, that would just be extra fuel for the fire against the right to repair movement and the car industry push to make people think non-genuine products are all dangerous and fake.
The biggest danger there is to the car makers balance sheet.
Legal in Australia to promote copies? And we are talking about safety.
Did you actually watch the video?
@@ZeroTo60Tube Yes I watched it, I acknowledge your sincerity to say there are copies with trademark usurpation. But in some countries it is illegal to buy copies with trademark usurpation and even more you are aware about it. My point you should not make video about it mainly because these products never passed any certification proving they meet standards of safety. Some people would buy this product after watching your video just considering the low price.
Would you be fine with it, if the logo wasn't on them? Because i think that sticker is the only thing customs would or even could have anything to say about, but Brembo being an Italian company they probably wouldn't care, just like when people get back from bali with the fake LV bags rolling through customs. However, I do get where you are coming from. Maybe take in to consideration the people that have been sold these fakes by actual crooks on facebook marketplace. There are way too many getting sold these as genuine and most people still don't know the copies exist. I feel it's more important to make people aware instead of letting people get conned. Makes you wonder how many shops are out there selling these as genuine........
Chinese loooooooooovve to lie!!!
If that statement offends you then let me put it this way.
People of oriental dissent simply like to tell you what you want to hear.
They have repalced the dodgey used car salesmen of the1970 and 1980s lol
First