What Went Wrong: The Food Pyramid

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  • čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
  • In a world where everyone is looking for the perfect diet - trying to find the balance between nutrition and practicality, it's important to make sure we don't lose sight of another key aspect: individuality. Accepting that the same diet plan will not work for everyone. Today I wanted to take a step back in time and analyze the most famous attempt at standardizing nutrition: its strengths, its shortcomings and most importantly what we can learn from it. Let's break down what went wrong with The Food Pyramid
    Introduction - 0:00
    History of the Food Pyramid - 1:15
    Obesity Statistics - 4:18
    What Went Right - 5:30
    What Went Wrong: Nutrient Clarity - 7:47
    What Went Wrong: Servings - 8:21
    What Went Wrong: Protein - 8:57
    What Went Wrong: Fat - 9:44
    What Went Wrong: Micronutrients - 12:01
    What Went Wrong: Carbohydrates - 12:30
    Outro - 14:09
    #nutrition #foodpyramid #myplate #diet #nutrients #healthyeating

Komentáře • 730

  • @VladLogimane
    @VladLogimane Před měsícem +802

    Ever considered a video on the nutritional effects of food preservation methods like freezing, drying, pickling, salting and such?

    • @russianmegabot5272
      @russianmegabot5272 Před měsícem +32

      Would Love that

    • @jasperc5209
      @jasperc5209 Před měsícem +9

      @@russianmegabot5272 i think i love you..

    • @chriss3404
      @chriss3404 Před měsícem +32

      Absolutely goated topic idea.
      Even refrigeration can be interesting. Polymerization of simple carbohydrates on the nutrition side, and food dehydration on the more culinary side!

    • @ZineSG
      @ZineSG Před měsícem +27

      Add fermented food to this as well, probably another food category that we eat too little of these days.

    • @bobbyatman273
      @bobbyatman273 Před měsícem +8

      ohh what a great video/discussion would it be! I'm interested in meat curing.

  • @horstfilet9362
    @horstfilet9362 Před měsícem +858

    Babe he posted again

  • @elemair9210
    @elemair9210 Před měsícem +347

    I've been working in the food industry all my life, I'm in a high position, and I can assure you the corruption is 100% real.

    • @alexc8512
      @alexc8512 Před měsícem +9

      Without breaking nondisclosures, are there any examples? An obvious would be the use of poor quality products for financial gain.

    • @David.77
      @David.77 Před měsícem +36

      @@alexc8512 The best example is the food pyramid talked about in the video. Many corporations "buy" scientists to get results that make them look good, or others bad. Big sugar played a big hand in making fat enemy number one(low-fat approach to diet). Carbs being the base of any diet isn't good nutritional advice for the average American.

    • @parispc
      @parispc Před měsícem

      @@David.77 I have a suspicion that big food corps like Kellogs are paying Instagram influencers to promote things like "intuitive eating" and saying that "indulging" in junk food isnt a bad thing. Its scary how pervasive it is and for some reason these people are all dieticians too.

    • @elemair9210
      @elemair9210 Před měsícem +1

      @@alexc8512 in the 20st century the sugar food industry pushed for publication of studies showing fat is the enemy so that sugar wouldn't get the bad attention it deserved. after decades of demonizing fat, the truth is out and sugar is recognized as being as bad as it is.
      Also the milk. You remember after the war how they served milk in schools? today, the recommendation is to limit dairy products and milk.
      the food companies only care about one thing : making money off the consumer.
      If you want to have a healthy diet, 2 simples rules must be followed :
      - only buy raw ingredients and cook everything yourself. Don't buy processed foods
      - eat a little bit of everything. So you eat everything so long as it respects the previous rule BUT you only eat a little bit of everything. The dose is the poison.

    • @GIGADEV690
      @GIGADEV690 Před měsícem

      I am in a high position and the corruption is real thanks for telling your Sins You're still part of the problem.

  • @moblinmajorgeneral
    @moblinmajorgeneral Před měsícem +363

    The USDA is not a health organization. It is a regulatory body centered around agriculture. The pyramid was more about what farmers in the US should produce so that it would be sold and consumed. Part of the reason why grains were the center of the pyramid rather than meat.

    • @vishishtmishra9082
      @vishishtmishra9082 Před měsícem +17

      Why would meat be center of any food guideline? There should be no center every food type is important

    • @mrtalk4878
      @mrtalk4878 Před měsícem

      @@lucios_7266lying for fun. Its a 1:9 ratio for chicken 13:1 to 15:1 for pork and 25:1 for beef. A simple google search would tell you this, yet you decide to lie on the internet.

    • @mrtalk4878
      @mrtalk4878 Před měsícem +71

      @@lucios_7266the ratio is 9:1 for chicken 13-15:1 for pork and 25:1 for beef. Stop lying for fun

    • @patrickbateman1660
      @patrickbateman1660 Před měsícem +11

      Extremely dishonest way of avoiding saying corrupt lobbying.

    • @moblinmajorgeneral
      @moblinmajorgeneral Před měsícem +11

      @@patrickbateman1660 This isn't supposed to be a political channel, so I avoided putting my opinion on politics in general into it

  • @bradygoldblatt560
    @bradygoldblatt560 Před měsícem +138

    Maybe you should make a video talking about the shortcomings of our “nutrition facts” labels, and/or the fda daily intake recommendations. I’m always confused when a multivitamin or individual supplement has 200-300% of the dri, and it’s hard to tell when things would turn from helpful to harmful.

    • @NoiseDay
      @NoiseDay Před měsícem +15

      or when an obviously healthy item has basically no nutrients listed

    • @mandrake925
      @mandrake925 Před měsícem +1

      Definitely good topic.

    • @bj.bruner
      @bj.bruner Před měsícem +8

      The one that worries me the most is how companies can sneak trans fats into food (in the US); if a serving has less than .5 grams they can say it has 0. So something with 0g trans fat pero 1 tablespoon serving can add up to a significant amount with refined oils and other such products

    • @bradygoldblatt560
      @bradygoldblatt560 Před měsícem +1

      @@NoiseDay yeah exactly. most of the stuff talon mentions in his tier lists aren’t on there, so you wouldn’t even think some things are very nutrient dense, when they’re B tier or higher

    • @strav8337
      @strav8337 Před měsícem

      ⁠@@bj.brunerif you are worried about that you can simply read the ingredients label and check for hydrogenated oils/partially hydrogenated oils on whatever product you are worried about.

  • @starstrudel8417
    @starstrudel8417 Před měsícem +66

    This explains a lot of the survival vids I've seen. I noticed they prioritize proteins fats (they celebrate whenever they can find some fat) for survival, if they couldn't get those, they had trouble functioning and even thinking.

    • @2adamast
      @2adamast Před měsícem +3

      In Alone, living on own fat and proteins is the most common approach. One good reason to be overweight.

    • @supernova743
      @supernova743 Před měsícem +8

      Americans eat way too much. So minimizing oils is a good idea because americans have huge stores of oils. Oils are important for proper function but looking at the ame4ican diet the idea of minimizing them is a positive choice for many people. Too many Americans focus on dieting to lose weight quick instead of adjusting their diet long term. This itself is an issue and leads to cycles of losing weight and regaining it.

    • @supernova743
      @supernova743 Před měsícem +5

      Oils are important for survival but for most americans are over eating. Fats and oils take up too much of our diet so minimizing them is generally a good idea.

    • @pectenmaximus231
      @pectenmaximus231 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, if you are in survival mode, yes, fat is valuable. If you arent on day 5 on a mountainside and living off the land, just stick to carbs.

    • @amandak.4246
      @amandak.4246 Před měsícem +1

      @@2adamast but then the ones who managed to hunt animals ended up with malnutrition or constipation bad enough to be sent home, so clearly fat and protein and nothing else will harm you

  • @Gepser
    @Gepser Před měsícem +38

    What I learned here is that if you want the best for you, don't trust the government. Educate yourself.

  • @curlyfreis
    @curlyfreis Před měsícem +102

    What went wrong ? Companies: "Look at all the money we gave you for the results we want."

    • @TheSubstrance
      @TheSubstrance Před měsícem +10

      Government: How to screw you over again and again but yet convincing you we want what's best for everyone.

    • @jbach1841
      @jbach1841 Před měsícem

      Yes, just look at which foods the government subsidizes. Rarely healthy stuff.

    • @heckebruh9154
      @heckebruh9154 Před měsícem

      The biggest food lobbyist are meat and dairy. Make whatever you want out of that information.

    • @moviemaestro800
      @moviemaestro800 Před 27 dny

      ​@@heckebruh9154 But also, grain agriculture is heavily subsidized, especially corn. It's kinda mind blowing how many things contain corn by-products, including even a bunch of non-food items, because, partially thanks to those subsidies, it's usually the cheapest manufacturing option.

    • @heckebruh9154
      @heckebruh9154 Před 27 dny

      @@moviemaestro800 Most corn in the usa isn't produced for humans but used to feed livestock. I dont know the exact number for corn but 90-95% of soy produced in usa goes towards livestock and i bet its likely the same for corn. Grain subsidies are a form of livestock subsidy.

  • @bryanmasuda3517
    @bryanmasuda3517 Před měsícem +34

    talon thank you for always posting quality videos your one of my favorite creators on this platform!

  • @lovecheeseordie
    @lovecheeseordie Před měsícem +18

    Starting a cooking series of great every day meals that follow your best nutritional advice would be great! We know what we need to do but a lot of people don’t know how to do it. A “recipes in a week” might help out.

  • @TheChattounet
    @TheChattounet Před měsícem +134

    i do believe that nutrition has been overcomplicated the past few decades. It shouldn't be too complicated to eat properly, and it isn't, appart from several basic things that are easy to do and to be carefull with.

    • @Talon_Fitness
      @Talon_Fitness  Před měsícem +106

      To me the beautiful thing about nutrition is that it can be as complex as you want it to be. If you want to just be healthy, there's only a few rules you really need to follow. If you want to take it a step further you can. If you want to optimize it for athletic reasons, or need to for health concerns, you can. And different people who advise about it are going to be advising at those different levels. I just wish everyone understood that just because someone isn't at the same level as you, doesn't mean they're not trying hard enough or being too nitpicky. Because, as I hope I was able to convey at the end, it's supposed to be an individual journey.

    • @boblangford5514
      @boblangford5514 Před měsícem +9

      @@Talon_FitnessI like the way you emphasize the individual journey, because an average Joe is going to have a very different caloric & macronutrient intake than a professional athlete. Everyone has different goals, and you have to manipulate your nutrition plan based on the goals you want to attain.

    • @berengerchristy6256
      @berengerchristy6256 Před měsícem +2

      I think the problem is people these days are too lazy to prepare food for themselves at home. I’m so glad that’s the example my parents set for me. We hardly went out to eat and almost never had food delivered

    • @ladymacbethofmtensk896
      @ladymacbethofmtensk896 Před měsícem

      ​@@berengerchristy6256I am one who tends to cook like a Michelin-starred French chef having beautiful and decadent dinners regularly. With wine, of course.

    • @paulinemoira8442
      @paulinemoira8442 Před měsícem

      With food advertisement, availability and even the lay-out of supermarkets, natural intuition often doesn't work for people. Otherwise we wouldn't have an obesity crisis and a diabetes crisis and so many young people with heart issues, high blood pressure and shitty teeth.
      Intuition failing even happed for hunter gatherers. We've found groups who died not of starvation, but because the nutrients in their diet (or lack there of) slowly killed them.

  • @Probably_Laurence
    @Probably_Laurence Před měsícem +9

    I LOVE this new format, definitely would love to see more of this!!

  • @Micr0b666
    @Micr0b666 Před měsícem +2

    Thank you so much for this video! I was waiting for it since all the teases in the previous videos from more than a year ago :D

  • @diggydoodleman3606
    @diggydoodleman3606 Před měsícem +1

    Please post more of these videos. I really enjoy your contact and I’m glad that you are someone who can provide this useful information in my life.

  • @michaelkeller5927
    @michaelkeller5927 Před měsícem +5

    These are the types of videos that are helping me improve my life. Thank you for all you do

  • @garyvee6023
    @garyvee6023 Před měsícem +2

    I loved this format. The amount of work that went into producing this is amazing..., loved the animation clips with the commentary. Absolutely love your vids..., I have lost count the amount of people I have told about your vids. 🏆

  • @too-many-phils
    @too-many-phils Před měsícem +2

    great topic for a video. I really appreciate the work you put in to help us learn.

  • @EmperorShang
    @EmperorShang Před měsícem +7

    Another banger as always, thanks Talon!

  • @markadams7046
    @markadams7046 Před měsícem +11

    I think the key point is that they have been fighting a losing battle from the start, but I think without such an oversimplified visual device, we would be eating far worse than we already are. I agree that you can't do an accurate picture of dietary needs in one simple drawing, but I also feel that no simple drawing at all would be worse, as people wouldn't even try for at least the most basic dietary requirements. I also think a lot of factors have contributed to our bad diets over the years. Like a lot of so called advertised as "healthy" processed foods becoming more prominent on the market while still being the same old processed garbage, so people think they can eat more of it. Also with the technology of more and more convivence comes less and less exercise. Why walk to a grocery store when you can have the food delivered directly to your door. I know food delivered directly to the home goes way back, but not to the extent that is done today. I know this sounds like a minor thing, but these minor little things add up.

  • @bobnewkirk7003
    @bobnewkirk7003 Před měsícem +9

    "lets go over what went right...don't worry this will be quick" deepest cut of the video.
    Honestly the food pyramid is a clear example how Big Business and their lobbyists are influencing public policy. the fact alone that Dairy is still a required section despite a growing portion of the population being lactose intolerant should be the first red flag. Beyond that the '90 pyramid was built based on the prior rationing guidelines and so it was suggested to eat the lowest cost food to stay alive, which is why we have the over-abundance of carbs in the diet.
    that all being said I've seen some "Mediterranean" diet Pyramids floating around that do a better job, but the messaging is super mixed and the number of caveats make it hard to read without a magnifying glass; There really isn't a perfect model as nutrition isn't perfectly understood yet. the one benefit that these diagrams have is that they, at very least, encourage the consumption of something other than meat and potatoes which was, and sadly still is, the diet of the audience that first saw them. Like you closed with they are "generally making progress, just very slowly"; which may as well be the slogan for the Fed at large.

  • @gabrieljorquera4953
    @gabrieljorquera4953 Před měsícem +4

    I thought you would mention the fact that dairy is even considered a separate food group.
    As a kid, looking at the pyramid, seeing dairy, and remembering that more than half of all humans are lactose intolerant, told me everything I needed to know about how seriously I should take the food pyramid, and how corrupt the agriculture business is. If we even keep the broad "protein" group, dairy should be part of it, not its own separate category. I find it dissapointing that a country supposedly so proud of its diversity pushes everyone to drink milk even when it literally hurts them (like how the only beverage offered in the lunch line is milk, or chocolate milk)

  • @TitanBait
    @TitanBait Před měsícem +2

    I hope some day you do a snacks tier list! Ingredients are great but people also consume a wide variety of snacks that contribute a lot to our societal diet. There are often more than 2 isles of just snack type food in grocery stores so I think it is an important corner to cover. I would think a lot of stuff could be generalized like gummy worms or chips, but you could talk about stuff you haven't mentioned before like dried fruit, popcorn, chocolate, fruit cups, etc. things that wouldn't need a tier list alone but all together could be very interesting to explore!
    This was a really great and informative video! I have really started to watch you consistently and it's helped me make better choices or validate the research I have done myself. Your videos are more than just content!

  • @noahleveille366
    @noahleveille366 Před měsícem +2

    Thank you Talon you have motivated me to eat better, previously smoked half a pack a day, ate like crap, and drank two energy drinks a day.
    Now I cut both the energy drinks and smoking in half, and eat more greens and less candy. Only been about a month, but I already feel better due to my body not being abused so harshly everyday.
    Gonna keep working it day and day, see how much more I can improve. Thank you!

  • @petrhanzl8399
    @petrhanzl8399 Před měsícem +1

    As much as I love your videos from the informative side, I must admit I fell in love with the grafics and animations.

  • @QuetzalcoatlOdin
    @QuetzalcoatlOdin Před měsícem

    Thank you. You do an excellent job with information and delivery.
    You are awesome

  • @Maxwell-be4wt
    @Maxwell-be4wt Před měsícem

    love the format, feels like a great way to explore topics that dont fit the tier list model.

  • @cottonfluff1317
    @cottonfluff1317 Před měsícem

    Thank you for making this one, I know SOOO many people who still think that the OG pyramid is the real deal, even though it's so very flawed and outdated. I really appreciate this channel.

  • @JohnBainbridge0
    @JohnBainbridge0 Před měsícem +80

    1:27 Make Butter a food group again.

    • @MZRFaith
      @MZRFaith Před měsícem +4

      It's animal secretion

    • @verminlady
      @verminlady Před měsícem +7

      it's included in dairy

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster Před měsícem +6

      @@MZRFaith point being?

    • @cancermelon6950
      @cancermelon6950 Před měsícem

      ​@@MZRFaith delicious animal secretion

    • @rebeccaanne9863
      @rebeccaanne9863 Před měsícem +2

      @@MZRFaith That is entirely false! It's made from an animal excretion.

  • @jhamisoncarvalho2635
    @jhamisoncarvalho2635 Před 28 dny

    It's like having a personal nutritionist. Man I'm so grateful that my old man scared the bejesus outta me for failing English language at 10. Now I can watch and understand great content like this. Been +2 years that your videos are helping me through my brain disorders and overall body health. Thank you so much Talon.

  • @joeybhangdia4529
    @joeybhangdia4529 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for making this video and others, you always explain details in such a great way! Video idea -- have you ever thought about making a video about the differences in quality of certain foods, how those differences affect utilization in the body, costs pertaining to those differences, and if/when those differences might be either negligible or significant? For example, pasture raised vs cage free vs free range eggs; wild caught vs farm raised fish/shrimp; grass fed beef, milk, yogurt vs grain fed? I have learned a lot about these differences and appreciate the nuances between them, but there is still much that is difficult to parse out. Just a thought. Thanks again!

  • @landon2614
    @landon2614 Před měsícem

    this is a really good format. it would be interesting to see this type of video discussing popular, yet widely hazardous, diets. as long as you minded your words like usual it would be very neat to see. kinda hard because most claims about nutrition aren’t one size fits all, and thus hold a lot more water than the food pyramid ever did.

  • @marcroszyk5937
    @marcroszyk5937 Před měsícem +2

    Great video! This information is super helpful. Could you please do a video on sweeteners? Specifically for drinks like Mio. 😊

  • @lacsativ1
    @lacsativ1 Před měsícem

    Even as someone who does mostly low to zerocarb due to general intolerance to most foods that contain carbs, I very much appreciate your videos and opinions. Very fun and informative, great video format as well.

  • @BerniiGames
    @BerniiGames Před měsícem

    Very great video! Enjoyed it!
    I like the simple editing.
    Your voice is nice to listen to. Ever thought of doing a podcast?

  • @skip5971
    @skip5971 Před měsícem

    I like this new approach away from the usual series, although those are great too

  • @user-rd6ds5pw5j
    @user-rd6ds5pw5j Před měsícem +1

    Incredible as always, Talon

  • @CedricAda
    @CedricAda Před měsícem +7

    Definitely keen on a BMI what went wrong video

    • @howardhamaker2708
      @howardhamaker2708 Před měsícem

      Waist to height is a better indicator of health. Always found it funny Dr offices have scales that are hundreds to 1000's of dollars but a tailor's tape would work out better. Dr office scales are also always 10 to 20 lbs off.

    • @ballsackschrader218
      @ballsackschrader218 Před 27 dny

      ​@howardhamaker2708 shortcomings of bmi has more to with how normal people use it rather than how doctors use it. I've never heard of a doctor calling a muscular person unhealthy because their bmi is too high.

    • @IssaMeZane
      @IssaMeZane Před 17 dny

      BMI is a good indicator for someone who doesn't have a lot of muscle mass or none at all. Other than that, it isnt.

  • @MRS320able
    @MRS320able Před měsícem

    Very awesome video keep up the good work really eperciate it

  • @shioramenrabbit
    @shioramenrabbit Před měsícem

    The way you delivered the line "let's go over what they did right, don't worry, this will be quick" has been making me giggle on and off for like half an hour

  • @SpaceZeee
    @SpaceZeee Před měsícem +1

    Your videos have drastically helped me look at food differently.
    I eat foods based on tier now. Nothing bellow B tier

  • @rienn8559
    @rienn8559 Před měsícem

    ive been waiting for this one 😋

  • @vezmike6836
    @vezmike6836 Před měsícem

    Love this, thank you!!

  • @spaltmass
    @spaltmass Před měsícem

    Incredible value! Thx

  • @elsamu9458
    @elsamu9458 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks for understanding. May god bless you

  • @chuckchumbucket
    @chuckchumbucket Před měsícem +1

    Could you do a tier list on types of exercises/sports? Such as swimming, running, cycling, etc.? Great video btw. I really appreciate your specificity and infographics.

  • @wizdiz04
    @wizdiz04 Před měsícem +1

    Awesome breakdown man, I'm loving the information/content. I entirely agree that there is corruption in the food industry, I know General Mills was lobbying to promote sugar as a health food, sorry for no reference.

  • @AndrewPick6
    @AndrewPick6 Před 24 dny

    Hey talon, have you considered doing a tier list of preworkouts? Their formulas vary greatly and I think it’d be super informative to know the exact differences in each one and the desired effect of each of those ingredients.
    Thanks!!

  • @3trilogy
    @3trilogy Před měsícem

    Talon, I love your videos. They are food for thought. That being said I only know what has been working for me. I live in the deep south and work outdoors, and yes its murder this time of year. Melons and citrus fruits are a life saver, and while I am not a big believer in the hype of "Super Foods", kale is a real difference maker. Still like to start the morning off with steak and eggs. Avoiding processed foods helps a lot.

  • @IanFooteBased
    @IanFooteBased Před měsícem +2

    I grew up with the food pyramid.
    We ate little gel coated capsules of cod liver oil on a regular basis. Loaded with vitamins A and D and Omega 3.
    I bit into one once. It was horrible. But, washing down a capsule with a glass of milk on a regular basis keeps you healthy. As long as you don't overdose.

  • @SebiStr99
    @SebiStr99 Před měsícem +2

    Trying to think of super easy universal guidelines right now on the spot... Kinda hard but here goes: (in no particular order, these are points that I try to follow and that I encourage my family and friends to follow)
    -) as little (industrial) processing as (reasonably) possible
    -) variety is key (make meals as colorful and varied in texture as possible)
    -) no extremes (as everywhere else in life...) (meaning no extremely salty/sweet/fatty foods)
    -) drink mostly water (except if carb and/or electrolyte intake is necessary)
    -) supplementation is a crutch (but might be necessary e.g.: Omega 3s and Vit. D)
    -) stimulants are not your friends (caffein, nicotine, alcohol etc.) (should be avoided, some more than others)
    (optional and not applicable for everyone)
    -) have fun with food, experiment with new flavors or combinations, take the time to be creative (try new recipes you find online or just improvise)
    -) grow your own herbs/veggies/fruits (depending on your situation ofc.) (having fresh herbs available is a game changer)
    -) prepare meals in advance (to remove impulse control from the equation entirely and for convinience)
    That took quite a while and isn't easily visually represented... No wonder the food pyramid isn't any better xD

  • @RebaKennedy
    @RebaKennedy Před měsícem

    Hi Talon Fitness, First - thanks so much for the time and effort you invest in this channel. It's fabulous. I am so happy each time I see a new video from you is out! Really appreciated this one -- and now, I have a couple of requests (if you're looking for topics LOL)....
    1. Would you help us with getting the most bang for our buck with food purchases? For instance, I've discovered that sunflower seed kernels are inexpensive and provide so much re Vit E, for instance. Ditto bell peppers and Vit C and chia seeds and walnuts for Omega 3s.
    2. Would you explain WHAT is up with al the B vitamins? There are so many -- and I just learned that choline used to be "Vit B4" until that changed for some reason. Wassup with that? I'm especially interested in how to get enough B1 each day. I'm consistently falling short on my chronometer diary.
    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS CHANNEL!!!!!!!

    • @Talon_Fitness
      @Talon_Fitness  Před měsícem +1

      For the first option, I've been wanting to do that for years, but given how much more expensive things keep getting, I feel like it wouldn't be accurate for very long. As for the second one, all of the vitamins are going to be getting a True Nutrient video at some point. I just wanted to do the minerals first

  • @dishcleaner2
    @dishcleaner2 Před měsícem +17

    Nice. You should do a video on how to make restrictive diets like vegetarian and vegan align with what you think is best for the body. As a vegan, I would recommend whatever you put out to my friends.

    • @burntbeansoup
      @burntbeansoup Před měsícem +26

      I don't think it's physically possible to be a healthy vegan without supplements. You're mainly low in complete protein, calcium, iodine, zinc, and *especially* heme iron. Our ancestors way far back before society ate bugs and fruit, and our not so distant ancestors ate meat and foraged grain and fruit. Because of this, your diet is not natural at all. I'm not saying unnatural is bad - it's just that in this case it can be, because you're at increased risk for malnutrition, hypothyroidism, anemia, and depression (caused by lack of energy).
      The best thing for you to do would be to consume whey protein if you can - it's the protein leftover from milk. I know that's not "vegan" but a diet doesn't have to be absolute. Even then, you'd still absolutely lack the iron and zinc you need.
      Honestly, I don't know what to tell you. I don't think he will make a video about it because there is no way to be vegan and include everything you need in your diet naturally.

    • @bobbyatman273
      @bobbyatman273 Před měsícem

      I feel sorry for you, you haven't got a clue what you are doing, just 1 thing is you don't understand bio- availability, some plants do have nutrients BUT you are not a cow with totally different digestive system, maybe you'll get 5% of what's in vegetables, not to mention poisons they have as a defense mechanism against bugs, ...here's an addition (incomplete) to your shopping list;
      b12
      b6
      d3
      k2
      iron
      retinol vit A
      dha omega3
      carnitine
      CoQ10
      taurine
      creatine
      collagen
      coline
      you'll find them everywhere (most in some stripped chemical form)
      Just do me a favor, when you get old and sick don't waste my tax $ on "govt" sponsored "healthcare" ...that will do anything to "get rid" of you anyway... good luck

    • @nestor4895
      @nestor4895 Před měsícem +9

      ​@burntbeansoup all of those are either easy to get enough of, or a minor supplement. "Complete protein" is not a problem as long as you don't eat the same food over and over again.

    • @burntbeansoup
      @burntbeansoup Před měsícem

      @@nestor4895 I never said it was difficult, I just said it cannot be acheived naturally through diet alone. And complete protein is indeed a problem; you need to get every essential amino acid, which is difficult from plants alone. The only significant source of complete plant protein is soy.

    • @frankchen4229
      @frankchen4229 Před měsícem

      @@burntbeansoup You have no idea what you are talking about; calcium is abundant in many items including seeds, soy, blackstrap molasses, leafy greens, etc. and iodine is actually richest in various seaweeds. Heme iron isn't a problem at all considering vitamin C drastically increases absorption of non-heme iron. Also, literally EVERY whole food (with the exception of gelatin ironically which is an animal product) contains every essential amino acid.
      There's no way to have a healthy diet naturally in the first place considering agricultural systems are MANMADE and food security literally relies on numerous manmade products INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO supplementation of farm animals.

  • @josilistens
    @josilistens Před měsícem

    I really like the visual for the new Canada food guide. Still a bit carb heavy perhaps, but it's a decent reference. It uses a plate like the US but it's a photo with a big variety of foods that encompasses many different diets, highlights a lot of top tier foods, and even shows fish!

  • @lastnamefirstname2390
    @lastnamefirstname2390 Před měsícem +4

    Wow. You literally read my mind. I was thinking about this yesterday: what would a proper food pyramid look like? I'm glad you released this. Basically, eat more fruits and vegetables, avoid carbs, and protein is king. Thanks!

    • @Talon_Fitness
      @Talon_Fitness  Před měsícem +8

      Kinda. No. Not really

    • @lastnamefirstname2390
      @lastnamefirstname2390 Před měsícem

      @@Talon_Fitness what's the problem?

    • @Talon_Fitness
      @Talon_Fitness  Před měsícem +20

      If you were to put a basically on it, it should be: there is no proper food pyramid. Everyone's will look different. I also never said to avoid carbs, they have their role to play. I might be sounding a bit nitpicky there but the less I let miscommunications like this slide the better

    • @lastnamefirstname2390
      @lastnamefirstname2390 Před měsícem

      @Talon_Fitness Yeah, I suppose it's a bit nitpicky. I get where you're coming from. Everyone is different. I approached it moreso as a rule of thumb for the average American.

    • @abaddon1371
      @abaddon1371 Před měsícem

      That sounds close to what Keto does, and it is not without its caveats. Also, a lot of fruit is not healthy either. They contain enourmous amounts of sugar. In my own view, just eat a balanced diet. A bit of everything, or as the saying goes, too much or too little of something, is not good for you.

  • @sasaciz8758
    @sasaciz8758 Před měsícem

    Great video! May I ask your opinion on the carnivore diet? Maybe it could be a whole theme for next video, if you have a lot to say about it, or I'd love, if you just replied your take on this topic. Thanks!

  • @FruitsNFasting
    @FruitsNFasting Před 27 dny

    Love the vids, when are you doing the fruit #2

  • @sissitOoO
    @sissitOoO Před měsícem

    Hey! Really apreciate your content do you have any cook book recomandations.

  • @Sebboebbo
    @Sebboebbo Před měsícem +1

    Da nutrition king is back baby he neva miss we're eating good today y'all

  • @NancyFalla
    @NancyFalla Před měsícem

    Thank you very much for this video. As usual, very helpful. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @red.a.v212
    @red.a.v212 Před měsícem

    Thanks alot for such videos ❤

  • @zilongliu2037
    @zilongliu2037 Před měsícem

    Love your video!

  • @the_audsquad661
    @the_audsquad661 Před měsícem

    I like the new format. ❤

  • @airlox9470
    @airlox9470 Před měsícem +8

    I would enjoy a exercise/ physical activity tier list

    • @khronos2213
      @khronos2213 Před měsícem

      What do you mean by tear list? Like sports and activities ranked? I don't think that's possible, what's best for you is what you enjoy the most.
      I guess weight lifting is the best aside from that most other things are ~equal. Some even require resistance training themselves.

    • @airlox9470
      @airlox9470 Před měsícem +2

      @@khronos2213 more like the benefits of specific exercises along with potential risks. Specific things like squaring, running, benching, dips, etc.

    • @khronos2213
      @khronos2213 Před měsícem

      @@airlox9470 The injury ratios are meassured per 1000h. Weightlifting/powerlifting have one of the lowest injury rates out there, only above yoga (other sports are at times more than 10x more injurious). With running it depends on which level you are, novice, amateur, pro (it gets higher).

    • @IssaMeZane
      @IssaMeZane Před 17 dny

      @@airlox9470 Potential risks you can't really rank... You don't need to rank running for e.g just fucking run

  • @pattrout3571
    @pattrout3571 Před měsícem

    appreciate this video. l have all the ones you did on grading individual food groups. I agree with 2 strong points you make. One fats and carbs are needed. You cannot shove them out but you have to choose wisely. it's like trying to eliminate cholesterol ,we need some. 2nd point I have for about 2 years of my life advocated for myself. I am 75 years old and have changed the way I look at food and supplements. I express my feelings and thoughts to my doctors. We make decisions together. if your doctor won't at less listen to your thoughts and feelings, find another doctor. Keep up the good work, bringing us new research and choices. Know that your body tells you how it feels. LISTEN thanks😊

  • @jumbolarge108
    @jumbolarge108 Před měsícem +1

    Would be interesting to see how you would make a “better” food pyramid. You should make a video on that!

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon Před měsícem +2

    In the my plate diagram, I'd lump dairy into the protein section because that is a protein source that is similar to eggs, ie it's made by an animal to nurish its young & we happen to steal it for ourselves.
    In a sense we're all vampires for we drink other species' milks.

  • @MrWill830
    @MrWill830 Před měsícem +1

    I reckon that an interesting topic would be analyzing the diets of elite-level athletes in certain sports and how they're not necesseraly healthy, either for the average person or even for the athletes themselves, long term.
    Ultra-marathon and iron-man runners as an example, typically rely heavily on carbs and sugar to get enough energy for their endurance feats and seem to be neglecting food that is slower to digest, i.e. proteins as a whole. Now, getting veyr accurate info about that might be tricky ... but who knows :^)

  • @tyson6260
    @tyson6260 Před měsícem

    Another great video

  • @teal.9710
    @teal.9710 Před měsícem +33

    babe wake up new talon fitness series !

  • @wynelf1532
    @wynelf1532 Před měsícem +1

    I have always treated the food pyramid as gospel until this video, especially since rice is a staple of my meals in my asian household. Very good to know!

  • @SuperJTX1056
    @SuperJTX1056 Před 14 dny

    Hey Talon, I feel like you should make a protein supplement tier list. The more I look at different protein powders, the harder it feels to make a good decision especially with how many of them are loaded with sugar.

  • @MaveRick01
    @MaveRick01 Před měsícem

    Hey mr. Talon, could you do a tier list on all the most popular diet types? How hard is it to definitively rank a specific diet? And could you also mention the diet Jordan Peterson follows (only meat, salt and water or something like that)?

  • @helmsley2071
    @helmsley2071 Před měsícem

    Thank u for posting

  • @brennanmccarthy3969
    @brennanmccarthy3969 Před 23 dny

    Hey talon you should do a video going over phytonutrients or photochemicals whatever people want to call them and what they are, how they benefit us, and when they’re good or even when they can be bad

  • @donveppy5391
    @donveppy5391 Před měsícem

    Great video!

  • @niko31
    @niko31 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you so much for these videos. Healthy eating is very overwhelming for me, but you make it so much simpler!

  • @l0vexaile
    @l0vexaile Před měsícem

    I would love to see you do a BMI video with this format!

  • @daregularperson
    @daregularperson Před měsícem

    I am inspired to design something more akin to what you’ve described! And then have major aside areas like more carbs for more exercise, some things like that

  • @Zygonisia-ez4qn
    @Zygonisia-ez4qn Před měsícem

    Thank you for the informative content.🙂
    I live in Europe, grew up with the false food pyramid depicted in each and every one of my biology textbooks and believed in it's practical value. It was only recently that I have learned that it promotes unhealthy eating habits...

  • @Alejandrocj12
    @Alejandrocj12 Před měsícem

    Cheers for the vid, love it when i find a chanel that cuts through the crap

  • @verywell290
    @verywell290 Před měsícem

    I love this new art style

  • @Wakssbm
    @Wakssbm Před měsícem

    that is one quality video if I've ever seen one

  • @alexc8512
    @alexc8512 Před měsícem

    Good point about sugar. My take is there should be almost no separate sugar consumption because most of it will be gained from unused carbs and natural sugars in your other food groups.

  • @ibrahimkholy9860
    @ibrahimkholy9860 Před měsícem

    visually your videos are fantastic

  • @HS-hx8ti
    @HS-hx8ti Před měsícem

    Next tier list should be all those different diets you listed!

  • @dustydasugo8240
    @dustydasugo8240 Před měsícem

    Thank you!

  • @KartoffelBaterie
    @KartoffelBaterie Před měsícem

    What about a video about complete meals such as some porridges for example which include a lot of top tier foods that complement each other very well nutritionally? I think that would be cool if you are willing to come up with some recipes...

  • @samvankan6060
    @samvankan6060 Před měsícem

    Hi Talon, have you considered doing a video on the concept of "cheat days" and how effective they are?

  • @Shacomidlane
    @Shacomidlane Před 28 dny

    Perhaps you could make a video on different diets and critically analyse them with their pros and cons

  • @georgemas
    @georgemas Před měsícem +1

    The pyramid that reached my elementary school a long time ago actually had vegetables on the bottom and grains etc above... Interesting

  • @StefanMuller-cf3cy
    @StefanMuller-cf3cy Před měsícem

    Thank you very much for this video!
    Can you make a video about keto and carnivore diet?
    And how can saturated fats be so bad when people like Mikhaila Peterson, Dr. Ken Berry and Dr. Shawn Baker only eat food sources that are rich of saturated fats?

  • @quinnwalson9942
    @quinnwalson9942 Před měsícem

    What are your thoughts on vitamin supplements? It seems pretty agreed upon that they don't do anything if your diet gives you the vitamins you need but what if it doesn't? For example school lunches that you mentioned in this video. Do they have any value or are they just snake oil?

  • @SpontImagoSoul
    @SpontImagoSoul Před měsícem +1

    Yes! I feel lile the average "food pyramid" is off, everyone may have their own structure to follow based on deficiencies, activity levels and especially age and genetics too (mostly in regards to inherited traits and things such as IBS, Enemia or even celiac to name a few)

  • @filipsobota6839
    @filipsobota6839 Před měsícem +2

    Would be nice to see a video about gluten. Seems like a lot of people could benefit from knowing a bit more about it and the reasons behind gluten intolerance

    • @lesliehardy1843
      @lesliehardy1843 Před měsícem +1

      Humans have been eating grains for eons. It's not the gluten, it's the pesticides and herbicides sprayed on grains that you are reacting to. Seeds and grains are high in Omega 6 and too much Omega 6 (out of balance with Omega 3 and 9) causes illness. All part of the big plan to keep us sick and buying big pharma products.

  • @Lychnuchus
    @Lychnuchus Před měsícem

    Make a "my plate" or food pyramid video that shows how you think it should look like, incorporating the most important information from your nutritional tier lists

  • @damianpiotrowski114
    @damianpiotrowski114 Před měsícem

    Amazing video

  • @Padamslifts
    @Padamslifts Před 23 dny +1

    Could you make a video of what you would recommend an American to eat daily since our environment is so poor and our access to nutritious foods are bad and we don't know what to look for in our diets like most countries do.

  • @sebastianmalburg271
    @sebastianmalburg271 Před měsícem

    Top quality

  • @mrtalk4878
    @mrtalk4878 Před měsícem

    Great video

  • @chacho28x
    @chacho28x Před měsícem +2

    Hey Talon,
    Can you please do a video on BMI? Or leave some of your thoughts here? Your comment at the 5 min mark had me wondering. I’ve always considered it a good target and haven’t heard any criticisms thus far. Thank you -

    • @SebiStr99
      @SebiStr99 Před měsícem +1

      I know you asked Talon for his thoughts, but I'll leave mine here as well, just in case anyone is interested.
      The BMI is effectively just a comparison of your height and your weight. That means that for statistical purposes, such as measuring an entire population it's pretty well suited, because it's easy to measure and any variation based on individual differences gets averaged out.
      That being said, for any 1 individual it's a flawed metric, because their proportions will differ from the average.
      Here's an example: 2 people have the exact same amount of body fat and muscle mass and therefore body weight, but one is taller, the other one has a wider bone structure.
      The taller one will have lower BMI, even though their body composition is identical.
      Similarly someone with a lot of muscle mass will have a comparatively high BMI, which might indicate being overweight.
      Someone who is tall, low muscle mass, but high body fat proportionally might have a BMI that's considered "normal", even though their body composition is far from ideal.

    • @chacho28x
      @chacho28x Před měsícem

      @@SebiStr99solid response bro, i appreciate it