The Threshold Model of Clinical Decision-Making (Strong Diagnosis)

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
  • An introductory qualitative discussion of the threshold model of clinical decision-making, including the definitions of "rule in" and "rule out" as it pertains to establishing or eliminating diagnostic possibilities.
    For more reading about the threshold model:
    Pauker SG, Kassirer JP. The threshold approach to clinical decision making. NEJM. 1980;302:1109-17. (pubmed.ncbi.nl...)
    Djulbegovic B, et al. When is rational to order a diagnostic test, or prescribe treatment: the threshold model as an explanation of practice variation. Eur J Clin Invest. 2015;45:485-93. (pubmed.ncbi.nl...)
    Djulbegovic B, et al. The threshold model revisited. J Eval Clin Pract. 2019; 25:186-195. (onlinelibrary....)
    For more reading about diagnosing UTIs:
    Bent, S, et al. Does this woman have an acute uncomplicated urinary tract infection? JAMA. 2002;287:2701-10. (pubmed.ncbi.nl...)
    Deville, W, et al. The urine dipstick test useful to rule out infections. A meta-analysis of the accuracy. BMC Urol. 2004;4:4. (pubmed.ncbi.nl...)
    Lammers RL, et al. Comparison of test characteristics of urine dipstick and urinalysis at various test cutoff points. Ann Emerg Med. 2001;38:505-12. (pubmed.ncbi.nl...)

Komentáře • 24

  • @StrongMed
    @StrongMed  Před 3 lety +14

    I forgot to include an important disadvantage of the threshold model: It doesn't accurately predict the decisions of clinicians and patients in real life! This is partly a consequence of insufficiently accounting for differences in patient risk tolerances or other more idiosyncratic patient preferences (e.g. a patient who is relatively adverse to one specific test or treatment). It is also the consequence of how clinicians and patients alike don't always make "rational" decisions in practice as would otherwise be predicted by expected utility theory (which is an implied foundation of the threshold model). Expected utility theory and analysis (including its shortcomings) will be the topic of a forthcoming video in part 3 of this series.
    Another minor omission regarding "rule out" thresholds: An additional consideration to make before ruling out a serious diagnosis is how able and reliable the patient would be to return to the clinic or hospital should their condition worsen. For example, if you are ruling out a heart attack in a middle-aged patient in the ER, and the patient lives with their spouse a few blocks away, your threshold to rule it out would be different than if the patient was elderly, of limited mobility, and lived alone up a windy mountain road an hour from the nearest medical facility.

    • @martinemanuel7919
      @martinemanuel7919 Před 2 lety

      Good history good exam make your impression use the golden hour well

  • @williammccormack4618
    @williammccormack4618 Před 3 lety +3

    These videos are incredible! A big thank-you on behalf of the Australian junior doctor community who absolutely love your videos on clinical reasoning! Can't wait for the next installment in this series on the assessment of clinical reasoning :)

  • @cornelbacauanu1544
    @cornelbacauanu1544 Před 3 lety +1

    It could not be said better. Medicine is the art and science of dealing with uncertainty and every tool we have can help the reasoning process. Thank you.

  • @spookygreg
    @spookygreg Před 3 lety +2

    It’s so sad that money pays a factor in running certain tests.
    Also, I really appreciate how you talk about STIs. A doctor broke the news that I had syphilis really terribly to me and just left me crying. I thought I was in a monogamous relationship like your example. I wish I had a doctor who was more understanding!

  • @hyguruprep
    @hyguruprep Před 3 lety +4

    please more videos like this!

  • @Amulya5654
    @Amulya5654 Před 3 lety +3

    Dr. Strong your dedication is commendable. Words cannot describe my gratitude. ❤️

  • @user-fd3tq8vd3t
    @user-fd3tq8vd3t Před dnem

    Doctor I hope you will. And I want to till that we NEED you to complete this course

  • @alexandrachoque1523
    @alexandrachoque1523 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks to this video you can understand more the reasons why doctors ask for some type of decision. Likewise, doctors must feel under a lot of pressure since sometimes the evaluations and decisions they make will decide whether the patient lives or not since every decision the patient makes doctor will be important to save the life of each patient

  • @jinghuang2000
    @jinghuang2000 Před 2 lety

    Dr Strong, Thank you very much for this enlightening video. I am wondering if you could do a threshold model analysis of Kidney or Bladder cancer for the present case? The age, unintentional weight loss combined with the symptoms are red flags indicating that we should not miss the malignancies for this patient. I am still not sure what is the best timing to initiate all tests for cancers? the answers will be variable based on the factors mentioned in the video but will be more helpful if there is a sample analysis from you. Many thanks!

  • @tuckerprice9663
    @tuckerprice9663 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for this wonderful series! I am a little uncomfortable with the term “risk averse” for a patient who prefers testing at a lower probability than average. Would “disease risk averse” be more accurate since they are choosing to weight risk from untreated disease more heavily than testing/treatment risk, but actually taking on additional testing risk? I am concerned "risk averse" gives patients or clinicians a false impression that potential treatment/testing harms are less "risky" than potential disease harms. "Uncertainty averse" could be another way of characterizing these patients.

  • @picfunmedicosis1187
    @picfunmedicosis1187 Před 3 lety

    Great Sir very much appreciated

  • @openyourmindtomedicine

    Amazing information

  • @elmejorcanal931
    @elmejorcanal931 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks dr strong, do you have any recommended readings on this topic ?

    • @StrongMed
      @StrongMed  Před 3 lety

      There are some relevant papers in the video description.

  • @pushpikachathuranga7338

    Thank you sir!

  • @hidgik
    @hidgik Před 3 lety

    Shouldn't you be saying 'risk averse' rather than 'risk adverse'?

    • @StrongMed
      @StrongMed  Před 3 lety

      Lol. If I said that, I'm gong to blame it on the last vestiges of my Philly accent.

    • @hidgik
      @hidgik Před 3 lety

      @@StrongMed My comment was made in perfectly good faith. I hope I have not offended you. If I did, please excuse me. I am sorry.

    • @StrongMed
      @StrongMed  Před 3 lety

      No worries. Not offended at all! ;)

    • @hidgik
      @hidgik Před 3 lety

      @@StrongMed Thank you! I feel relieved. Especially since I watch most of your videos and learn something new.

  • @martinemanuel7919
    @martinemanuel7919 Před 2 lety

    Just like yesterday wahslla in hospital

  • @julianzapatarojas2502
    @julianzapatarojas2502 Před 7 měsíci

    I feel safer controlling my genetic test

  • @lomba2dias
    @lomba2dias Před 3 lety

    Oil