Smash 4 is still the JANKIEST Smash game

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 5. 03. 2023
  • Look, I know there's been a whole bunch of talk about Steve and about how unbalanced Smash Ultimate is. But, I mean, do you guys remember Smash 4? That game was BROKEN! Today, we'll be looking at some old Smash 4 sets while I give my thoughts.
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Komentáƙe • 171

  • @ItzMeNido
    @ItzMeNido Pƙed rokem +481

    Fun Fact, I met Marss at this tourney (Pound 2016.)
    I was popping off with my MDVA homies because I made top 96 at my first major and Marss was like
    "Ay congrats on making top 96 at your first Major!
    I got top 8 at mine. :)"
    Been a Marss fan ever since lmao.

    • @Marss_NE
      @Marss_NE  Pƙed rokem +188

      mashers 4 life

    • @alexemp6201
      @alexemp6201 Pƙed rokem +38

      That's the most wholesome and swag story at the same time ever

    • @wollins7244
      @wollins7244 Pƙed rokem +15

      I love that Marss has just been the same for what seems like his entire life. At 17 he still has the same personality he does on stream now. Crazy that he doesn’t even seem to put on a personality

  • @mattnipitella5374
    @mattnipitella5374 Pƙed rokem +45

    I wish smash 4 still had a competitive scene. The game basically died as soon as ultimate came out. I miss this game so much.

  • @EnharmonicYT
    @EnharmonicYT Pƙed rokem +50

    The turbo teabag at the end actually had me in tears

  • @anonymous7024
    @anonymous7024 Pƙed rokem +67

    11:16 Marss really said "You go out on MY terms buddy"

  • @jaxsonation
    @jaxsonation Pƙed rokem +147

    Give the guy his shimmy tierlist already

    • @Tiznado
      @Tiznado Pƙed rokem

      Give ‘em an inch, and they’ll take a mile

  • @usern4metak3ns
    @usern4metak3ns Pƙed rokem +11

    It's Monday where TF is our monke! Do your jerb

  • @Sammechu
    @Sammechu Pƙed rokem +6

    I still think about how we really played 2 stocks and still managed to hold up Melee brackets lmao

  • @kawaharaizumi731
    @kawaharaizumi731 Pƙed rokem +33

    Marss narrating his long-ago sets like an old man reminiscing about the war.... so wholesome

  • @JackCattGaming
    @JackCattGaming Pƙed rokem +8

    You should do this more often, I'm such a sucker for smash 4 nostalgia

  • @zentember
    @zentember Pƙed rokem +4

    i feel like the fearlessness to run through shields is also a statement about how collision mechanics were different in smash 4 versus ultimate

  • @ChillestForm
    @ChillestForm Pƙed rokem +5

    Leave it to Marss to find some kind of way to have unskippable ads

  • @ohianaw
    @ohianaw Pƙed rokem +16

    Next Marss vid: "Why do I play ZSS"

    • @Marss_NE
      @Marss_NE  Pƙed rokem +11

      because the world isn't fair

  • @timmyb.3426
    @timmyb.3426 Pƙed rokem +5

    I miss being able to run through your opponent. I've been complaining about pushing the opponent since Ultimate released.

  • @rocklob069
    @rocklob069 Pƙed rokem +13

    Whatever you do, do NOT check marss set history with tweek in ultimate

    • @FujiBou
      @FujiBou Pƙed rokem +10

      No one beats marss 9 times in a row

  • @Bradyboy26
    @Bradyboy26 Pƙed rokem +4

    i miss smash4 doubles if it wasnt for cloud smash4 doubles felt so dynamic

  • @star14604
    @star14604 Pƙed rokem +5

    5:05 not in bracket but a friendly at shine and wow, there has never been a more truthful statement.

  • @LoKing1337
    @LoKing1337 Pƙed rokem +31

    Man I fucking love smash 4

    • @dogyX3
      @dogyX3 Pƙed rokem +7

      It's was such a cool looking and stylish game

    • @snowarmth
      @snowarmth Pƙed rokem +7

      It just looks and felt so smooth and polished. I loved the size of the roster, it was my favorite thing about it, because when the roster is too large, it's hard to get good against everyone, but when it's too small, not everyone finds their character. I think 4 had the perfect size :3

  • @DerRiese625
    @DerRiese625 Pƙed rokem +2

    Watching marss analyze his sets will never get old. pure gold

  • @TheCaptainBlackimar
    @TheCaptainBlackimar Pƙed rokem +2

    Shoulda played that Abadango set. Nair footstool down B looked crazy af at the time

  • @dokutah7374
    @dokutah7374 Pƙed rokem +2

    I feel like I’m the only one who misses the extra game modes that were in 4

  • @gamrage
    @gamrage Pƙed rokem +4

    You know people have complained about Smash Ultimate being super janky from the start. All of them are janky. It may be subjective which one is the most.

  • @betchaos7383
    @betchaos7383 Pƙed rokem +26

    I miss smash 4

    • @user-jh1ov8cc7m
      @user-jh1ov8cc7m Pƙed rokem +15

      Imo smash 4 is the best in the series by far. I can't even play the new one with how weird the buffer system is. Smash 4 felt way smoother.

    • @alanaguero5486
      @alanaguero5486 Pƙed rokem +2

      Feel you, bro. I like playing Ultimate at times, but it's not for me. Physics are garbage and some mechanics are insufferable. Glad for those who adapted, but i just can't.

    • @willycheez7218
      @willycheez7218 Pƙed rokem +12

      Sm4sh was THE time to play. So chill, Smash YT content was insane during Sm4sh I miss it

    • @alanaguero5486
      @alanaguero5486 Pƙed rokem +3

      @@jaydenhohman2590 Imo it was a good system. The way you can airdoge and then attack or jump makes the game very dynamic in air movement. And it's not like it was hard to punish either.
      Fun fact: Playing as C. Falcon. If you jump and airdoge at the same time, you have the perfect timing for a grounded knee.

    • @user-jh1ov8cc7m
      @user-jh1ov8cc7m Pƙed rokem +1

      @@jaydenhohman2590 the air dodges in ultimate are wack because they leave you vulnerable for so long that they are almost unusable.

  • @danigoruff536
    @danigoruff536 Pƙed rokem +3

    Smash 4's kirby air dodge was so perfect 😭

  • @sinno96
    @sinno96 Pƙed rokem +2

    I miss crossing up shields so bad


  • @SeaOfPixels
    @SeaOfPixels Pƙed rokem +3

    U gotta do a vid like this for your doubles Lucario

  • @bibbyboxx2219
    @bibbyboxx2219 Pƙed rokem +1

    Amazing video

  • @MrBleer123
    @MrBleer123 Pƙed rokem

    Suprised we didnt see marss and pugwest combos in here, they were the first super sick doubles team

  • @AT-yz4eo
    @AT-yz4eo Pƙed rokem +2

    This isn't Monke Monday....

  • @blason56
    @blason56 Pƙed rokem +1

    Smash 4 : Player gets his - Crowd goes wild.

  • @nedcurfman3486
    @nedcurfman3486 Pƙed rokem

    Hearing Marss and Jersey in the same sentence explains so much

  • @FuriousFear
    @FuriousFear Pƙed rokem +4

    Marss will change in a lot of ways over the course of his life but he will always be funny

  • @dteragon
    @dteragon Pƙed rokem

    marss light smash 4 doubles was absolute degen lmao

  • @ChozenSakuga
    @ChozenSakuga Pƙed rokem +5

    marss super smash bros

  • @99wins31
    @99wins31 Pƙed 28 dny

    9:28 Feel good

  • @Trapjrt
    @Trapjrt Pƙed rokem +2

    1:37 the first shimmy?

  • @Creepo_J
    @Creepo_J Pƙed rokem +16

    I fucking miss smash 4 how buttery and smooth the game was
    you could do so much cool shit like reverse sliding ftilts and footstool stuff
    and that was me playing on 3ds, it was a good time

    • @LuisGonzalez0505
      @LuisGonzalez0505 Pƙed rokem +7

      Reverse slide up tilt with fox looked so smooth, I miss that too! Link had some cool slide tech with his bombs too. Bayo killed the good time though lol

    • @Creepo_J
      @Creepo_J Pƙed rokem

      @@LuisGonzalez0505
      I never got the dlc for smash 4 or played comp back then but yeah

  • @AArchunBestGOD
    @AArchunBestGOD Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +1

    That even Worse @Marss & Cloud

  • @barbecuesauceeyebrows8254

    10:53 that game was soo good

  • @yorkie4295
    @yorkie4295 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    hadn’t thought about how much fun the game is when there’s no bodyblocking. if they’re just doing nothing then just run through em lol.

  • @rgonzalez789517
    @rgonzalez789517 Pƙed rokem

    More smash 4 origins plz

  • @benjaminobi
    @benjaminobi Pƙed rokem

    TK and EE should do the BOdied thing again lol

  • @jacobhardin1089
    @jacobhardin1089 Pƙed rokem +555

    Day 79 of protesting for a shimmy tier list.

  • @BeeBN
    @BeeBN Pƙed rokem +1

    honestly i miss being able to run through opponents, thats a change in ultimate i dont like

  • @warrenlwolfe
    @warrenlwolfe Pƙed rokem +1

    this game's knockback physics were soooo dumb lmao

  • @MarkSchmidtTheRecoverySystem

    If it wasn't for their voices, I wouldn't have recognized TK or EE. Both guys have glowed up like crazy.

  • @Matpit18
    @Matpit18 Pƙed rokem +3

    I wish I knew about competitive Smash 4 because this Marss was like 10x more toxic 😂

  • @David-bh1rn
    @David-bh1rn Pƙed rokem +1

    I'm so good at smash 4 I pick mario and do down throw up tilt up tilt up tilt up tilt up tilt and then do an up air combo and win

  • @MelvinStFleur
    @MelvinStFleur Pƙed rokem +1

    Nah 11:15 is disrespectful AF đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

  • @name-tx5qu
    @name-tx5qu Pƙed rokem +1

    I’m insulted marss called sephiroth dlc

  • @HackX1824
    @HackX1824 Pƙed rokem +3

    Uhm ackchyually you uploaded at 1:59 not 2:00

  • @DumpsterM0nkey6
    @DumpsterM0nkey6 Pƙed rokem

    Wait, why was Smash 4 Doubles 3 stock?

  • @playte9860
    @playte9860 Pƙed rokem +4

    Smash 4 more like...
    Idk I got nothing

  • @A_man_not_your_man
    @A_man_not_your_man Pƙed rokem +4

    Glad to see she went from trash in Smash 4 to garbage girl in Ultimate

  • @LunaireTD
    @LunaireTD Pƙed rokem

    Smash 4 mars was absolutely UNHINGED

  • @michael13849
    @michael13849 Pƙed rokem

    Sm4sh dubs was beautiful

  • @researchinbreeder
    @researchinbreeder Pƙed rokem

    Marss sounds mad at Tweek for losing half the time 😂

  • @LUMRei
    @LUMRei Pƙed rokem

    More funny smash 4 please

  • @cabbages982
    @cabbages982 Pƙed rokem

    I always think of young Tweek having longer hair so it’s disorienting seeing buzz cut young Tweek cause my brain says that’s current Tweek but also baby face

  • @AArchunBestGOD
    @AArchunBestGOD Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +1

    1:00 Another♿Worst♿Worst♿

  • @Havoc_279
    @Havoc_279 Pƙed rokem

    Go back to Frostbite 2017, best tournament in my opinion

  • @elijahmims1928
    @elijahmims1928 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +2

    Knockback was so weird looking in Smash 4. It looks like they're in witch time and flying away in slow motion 💀

    • @BigMamaSSB
      @BigMamaSSB Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

      Remember when brawl was a goofy game with tripping

  • @mlgpuppyman4011
    @mlgpuppyman4011 Pƙed rokem +1

    Up air combos into itself never before seen mario:am I a joke to you

  • @softchirps
    @softchirps Pƙed rokem +3

    Thanks!

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 Pƙed rokem

    11:54 fax

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 Pƙed rokem +1

    I really think this is the worst one. I hate down throw up air.

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog Pƙed rokem +2

    Wait for Ultimate to end up like Smash 4 when the next Smash game comes out where everyone suddenly hates it

    • @rixenoshivaz
      @rixenoshivaz Pƙed rokem +8

      everyone already hates ultimate

    • @wolfdragox5563
      @wolfdragox5563 Pƙed rokem +3

      @@rixenoshivaz nobody hates smash more than smash players lol

    • @snoopybishop
      @snoopybishop Pƙed rokem

      ​​@@wolfdragox5563 I play king of fighters. I hate ultimate. 😂

    • @boundlessaether392
      @boundlessaether392 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

      Smash 4 barely has any notable features and feels very soulless. Smash Ultimate feels like what Smash 4 should’ve been. I doubt it will ever end up like its predecessor.

  • @jiyucy
    @jiyucy Pƙed rokem +1

    4 > Ult

  • @xzynta
    @xzynta Pƙed rokem +1

    You on the duolingo or what never seen you speak this much Spanish lol

  • @kestrelynn
    @kestrelynn Pƙed rokem +1

    I know alpharad said to void to brush up on sm4sh for a content thing he's planning do this analysis might come in handy

  • @cephlo4933
    @cephlo4933 Pƙed rokem +1

    You say Tweek plays dlc bs when he plays one of the worst dlc characters

  • @Torchy0033
    @Torchy0033 Pƙed rokem

    💀

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 Pƙed rokem

    W game

  • @nstruja
    @nstruja Pƙed rokem +1

    😂

  • @AArchunBestGOD
    @AArchunBestGOD Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +1

    S4 has Better matches Than Ultimate Worse Worse Cloud Btw Yes

  • @Gllerm_
    @Gllerm_ Pƙed rokem

    Disgusting behavior

  • @wampty8298
    @wampty8298 Pƙed rokem +1

    This video is just proof that Marss isn't actually good at the game, but the luckiest player of all time

  • @Tonjit41
    @Tonjit41 Pƙed rokem

    Firfst

  • @draw_neos-5064
    @draw_neos-5064 Pƙed rokem

    nah, melee was worst

  • @Hihello13919
    @Hihello13919 Pƙed rokem +2

    First

  • @user-jh1ov8cc7m
    @user-jh1ov8cc7m Pƙed rokem +6

    Nah ultimate is by far jankier. I can't even play it because of the new buffer system. Smash 4 felt so much smoother in comparison. Brawl is still the worst game in the series though.

    • @diegootero6095
      @diegootero6095 Pƙed rokem +4

      With time I've gotten used to ultimate, and many trash characters are now actually usable, which is amazing imo. But still going back to Smash 3DS feels amazing. The movement options are pretty fun. Perfect pivot goes crazy too. Even for glory was better than the trash we have now

    • @Sergio-wc1wn
      @Sergio-wc1wn Pƙed rokem +12

      You can say anything about ultimate movement not being the best but Smash 4 is easily more janky and unbalanced than smash ultimate.

    • @user-jh1ov8cc7m
      @user-jh1ov8cc7m Pƙed rokem +2

      @@Sergio-wc1wn I think the balance is about the same. Sure Bayonetta was easily #1, but I think Steve is just as busted only he is harder to play as. The rest of the cast I thought was more balanced than now. Smash ultimate has an even bigger difference in character size and reach and I think that makes it extremely difficult for characters with low reach to even get close enough to hit their opponent.

    • @itsjustsincere1004
      @itsjustsincere1004 Pƙed rokem +2

      Unnecessary brawl hate 💀

    • @Sergio-wc1wn
      @Sergio-wc1wn Pƙed rokem +4

      @@user-jh1ov8cc7m Steve is not even close to as busted as Bayo. Also I disagree with you; almost every character in ultimate except Ganon and maybe Little Mac can top 8 a major in this game currently, while in smash 4 that was nearly impossible.

  • @alanaguero5486
    @alanaguero5486 Pƙed rokem +5

    You made me remember why i like Smash 4 better. Ultimate is so fucking garbage.

  • @yurazah
    @yurazah Pƙed rokem

    hot take (actually maybe not, maybe cold) smash ultimate is still smash 4, its not a new game its a patch, like how street fighter games had like 3 new game (patches) that had drastic game balance differences. another example i use is dragon ball fighterZ, I would consider its current patch more different from the initial release then smash ultimate is to 4 and fighters is still just considered 1 game

    • @schwany6703
      @schwany6703 Pƙed rokem

      brainless take

    • @blackghostcat
      @blackghostcat Pƙed rokem +2

      Yeah that's a cold one. Physics were reworked. (Faster in general) every character was rebalanced and made faster. Shield was reworked, grabs were changed, new hitstun and better combos, better movement because of dash dancing. I could go on. That's a bit more than a patch so this makes no sense.
      Only thing not changed were the graphics and sounds sorta?

    • @yurazah
      @yurazah Pƙed rokem

      @@blackghostcat your idea of a patch just isnt broad enough, the street fighter versions are just as if not more drastically different in all those categories but are still all considered street fighter 2 - edit: also you know waht a hot/cold take is right? hot means its a controversial unpopular opinion. if you dont agree you should say its not, being cold means everyone agrees with me.

    • @blackghostcat
      @blackghostcat Pƙed rokem

      @@yurazah sorry I mean bad hot take. But do you understand that all they did with street fighter 2 was increase the speed of the game with no engine adjustments?

    • @theobserver4214
      @theobserver4214 Pƙed rokem

      @@blackghostcat SF2 was radically different with each version, yet still the same. It’s hard to describe but CE is not nearly the same as HF or WW.

  • @ytcmbt2505
    @ytcmbt2505 Pƙed rokem +1

    remove rage, bayo and cloud and smash 4 is better than ult

  • @kev5227
    @kev5227 Pƙed rokem

    Pretty whatever content I won’t be subscribing

  • @magicxxrjxx536
    @magicxxrjxx536 Pƙed rokem +1

    too bad tweek's miles ahead of you now *yawn

  • @drunkdos
    @drunkdos Pƙed rokem +2

    Yep smash 4 still the worst. Even 64 have more charm. Brawl have the projectM/+ to remove the jank. Smash 4 have nothing
    Ps. Melee not need a mention for obvious reasons

    • @lmao2302
      @lmao2302 Pƙed rokem

      Project M DOESN"T COUNT

    • @nathanm6372
      @nathanm6372 Pƙed rokem +6

      Melee god-tier đŸ˜€đŸ˜©

    • @bobthebuilder609
      @bobthebuilder609 Pƙed rokem

      you're incorrect, but judging from that you think anything positive about a game where kirby's uptilt is larger than ultimate ganondorf's forward smash... you must be a dumbass? Seems fairly obvious to me.

    • @rixenoshivaz
      @rixenoshivaz Pƙed rokem

      melees the worst game dont @ me

    • @RainLion10
      @RainLion10 Pƙed rokem

      @@rixenoshivaz @