Logic Pro 11 // Stem Splitter vs. LALAL.AI (3 Songs Compared)
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- In this video I demonstrate using Stem Splitter in Logic Pro 11 and LALAL.AI for ripping stems from fully mixed tracks. Enjoy!
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Chapters:
0:00 Overview
2:59 Badly Recorded Metal Song
14:22 Pop/RnB Song
24:23 Rock Song
30:33 Conclusions
In this video I demonstrate using Stem Splitter in Logic Pro 11 and LALAL.AI for ripping stems from fully mixed tracks. Enjoy!
Right Stripped ➛ www.rightstripped.com
Restless Lioness ➛ czcams.com/video/0pXnTBtu-yY/video.html
Ash Lexandra ➛ czcams.com/video/pHH-1iCI5Tw/video.htmlsi=DYEVrPlR3clCOxmK
Download my 35-part Logic starter course here! ➛ www.logicproguide.com
For mixing/mastering work, contact me at my website ➛ carneymediagroup.com
Follow MusicTechHelpGuy on Instagram ➛ instagram.com/musictechhelpguy
Support the channel on Patreon ➛ patreon.com/musictechhelpguy
Chapters:
0:00 Overview
2:59 Badly Recorded Metal Song
14:22 Pop/RnB Song
24:23 Rock Song
30:33 Conclusions
I found that if you take a stem that has been split, that might be kind of noisy from extraneous frequencies or whatever, if you run it through the stem splitter again it will sense the noise as another instrument and separate it.. I recorded guitar and base with a boss OC3 octave divider and was able to separate the tracks. The bass was kind of noisy With some weird frequency on it, So I split the base stem and it took out the frequencies. Stem splitter must’ve sensed that as some other instrument or whatever. Kind of like having to wash your socks twice to get the dirt out!
Interesting
Logic just keeps getting better but I'm still waiting for a damn polarity button on the channel strip.
Just use the gain plugin
@@DepthsOfOblivion666 Every mixing desk in the history of the world has a polarity switch. It's an essential recording and mixing tool and I'm tired of having to instantiate a damn plugin every time! I've been using Logic since V3 so I've been very patient. There's even a little space for it above solo.
How would you know a track might need that? Just by ear?
@@storiesreadaloud5635Look in to "phase" - it's a whole can of worms!
Just the comparison I was waiting for. Thanks to Lot Music Tech Help Guy
I discovered LALAL a few weeks ago and was impressed enough to purchase 500 minutes of stem-splitting. However, I found that my Logic Pro now includes stem-splitting. With the comparisons I've tried, LALAL has the edge over Logic Pro 11 with vocal splitting. However, Logic's convenience is likely to win over in the end.
I'm in the UK, and my ISP blocks LALAL's functionality, so you might need to use it via a VPN as I do.
Hey I just wanted to say thank you for this and many other videos. You've definitely have given actionable, sound advice and comparisons over the years. I often refer you and WPLR to folks who ask me questions because you've already done the video. Keep Rockin Josh.
I luv your passion and your teaching template. Its a breath of fresh air. You Rock!!
Excellent! Thanks! I expect Stem Splitter will keep getting better over time, though so, no doubt, will Lalal.
Nice how you enjoyed those memories when playing your song. I can relate. Cool
Cool stuff. I really wanna see a remix/remaster done with stem splitter!
Good video, well explained Enjoyed this.
You can do two additional tests. How the track sounds putting the stems back together, which one sounds closer to the original master? The second test could be to mute just the vocals, then invert the phase, play it with the original master and see if you can get a cleaner vocal track.
Interesting. I wonder how it compares to Spectralayers 10. I’ll have to play around a bit. I’ve had some stunning results using it as ARA. It even splits up individual drum parts too. Really impressed so far. Amazing/frightening how fast the AI tech is advancing in such a short time!
good job. tenks.
you should try using uvr as well
I’ve been using Moises and one feature it has is the ability to pull in iTunes tracks that I purchased, is there anyway to do that with the stems splitter that you would know of?
Stemverter has worked very well for me.
Interesting. Presumably you’ve used the Izotope RX separation tool over the years? Were you not satisfied with the results you got from it?
I predict that Logic’s stem cell separator will improve noticeably when the new OS is released.
Mac OS hasn’t truly released it’s AI capabilities and how the M series chips can process AI. Logic will definitely take advantage of the new system wide improvements.
Moises is better than Lalal but I wonder how it compares to stem splitter!
I had Moises. Canceled my subscription cuz stem splitter is better!
@@BlacTrac I found Moises slightly better on some stuff, less artifact in after splitting, but I don't think Moises is worth the extra cost if you have Logic.
I use Moises it does what I want which is split the tracks. I have an intel mini mac so I dont get stem splitter on Logic PRO 11 as it is silicon macs only!!!
Been using LaLal with logic for years and had no idea logic had this function! 😂
this function is new with Logic 11
You should do it with the izotope apps 👀
thanks to stem splitter you have 337.000 soldiers. stem splitter is the GODzilla shaping human history since 1970's and LALALA is lalala, it will stay LALALA, they can't compete together...first of all stem splitter is for free
Music ! more like noise vs noise
Have you considerd you might be making a bad assumption about the quality of the recording and the mix makinhg a difference to the result? The way AI works, it could easily have nothing to do with those things. It might be that the AI system was trained on songs and voices that sound more like your “better recorded” examples and less like your old recording. That could also explain the difference.
It's not really an assumption. I've tested out lots of songs over the years on stem splitters, and the ones that are limited heavily, have lots of saturation, lots of timebase effects, and were badly mixed/recorded, tend to be the ones that don't work as well, because there's too much noise for the stem splitter to distinguish between noise and musical sound. Rock music with heavy guitar in particular doesn't do well. But I guess the training songs is a possible explanation too.
First! 🎉
I’ll alert the media.
IMHO all the stem splitters suck. They can’t help it because they are splitting a full mix. There are so many dropped bits and missing micros. Its only viable purpose is as practice tracks for new recordings. Remastering off those extractions (they don’t qualify as stems) will be a waste of time.
Maybe 30 years from now you will think what you did at 19 was your best work ever. 😒