Single Plane Swing Review - FINAL WEEK! - Golf Test Dummy
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- Single Plane Swing Review - FINAL WEEK! - Golf Test Dummy
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The simple fact that you said you'll be adopting the swing moving forward is all the credibility it needs. Kudos to you Chad and welcome to the SPS family. Just make you stay down on that trail foot longer for straighter and more consistent shots.
Thanks for the kind words. It's been the biggest help to my golf game in years, so I'm happy to keep doing it.
I am following the SPS and my driver shots with square stance go to left of fairway. Do you think the trail foot issue is causing this? or do I need to follow the close stance? My shoulders are closed at address.
I use SPS swing. I follow Kirk Junge. Great instructor. I tried Graves, lost distance and more back pain, especially now at 67 years young. With Kirk’s method, less pain, more consistency.
Thanks for sharing your journey on SPS with us. I’m a tinkerer thus my swing changes quite a bit since I started playing golf. To the point, since adopting SPS I lowered my HC by 6 strokes. Mainly, like you experienced, the shot dispersion is way more tight. Keep the trail foot down after impact and you will notice more accuracy. Very best to you in 2022!
Thanks Louis! I'm going to revisit the trail foot staying down since you're the 5th person to mention it in the comments, haha. Happy New Year!
Well done this year, Chad. We've all had the chance to see you test out different products and different golf swing paradigms. This has been a huge help to me. For now, I'm sticking with the single plane swing ... works well for this senior golfer.
Please keep contributing and growing GTD ... we need you.
Wishing you and your family a happy, prosperous new year =)
You're too kind George and thanks so much for being a part of this year. Happy New Year!
Love the channel Chad! Did you fully commit to addressing the ball towards the heel of the club like some teach? I’ve noticed if I don’t start like that toe shots all day! Not sure I fully understand what’s happening. Great review & continued success to you!
I started the single plane swing before I knew it was the single plane swing. Read somewhere how to hit straighter and it worked for me. Initially used it only while driving, but am trying to use it full time now.
Good deal Gary! Yeah, I can't imagine going back to a complicated swing now. There's just no reason.
Look up Graves golf I’m a single plane swing guy since this past winter of 2023 I’ve played 4 rounds this spring dropped my round from 80’s to low 70’s
Loved the video. I have the same frustration with the swing, but I have committed to it and will keep working on it.
Same here Pat, and the support is much appreciated!
Thank you Chad! Great video! Happy new year!
Thank YOU JH! Happy New Year to you and yours.
I know this was done a few years ago, I too use the single plane swing now and as a beginner last year I used the conventional swing and was over 120 per round. I saw Todd graves single plane swing videos and have hit more consistently and farther and now my rounds are between 80 to 85! I love it
Started this journey almost a year ago.
Gone from a 19 hcp to a 6.
Incredibly better ball striker now.
Will never go back to a complex traditional swing.
Now if I could learn to eliminate three putting.
Agreed. It's so simple and with just a bit of time, it can make a huge difference.
👏👏👏 After seeing GGA vids last fall, I ordered the "free" 22 page, full swing pocket guide (pay postage). I keep it in my golf bag, now. 👏👏👏
Great video Chad I've been following along the last couple of years through all the trials and tribulations of your golf swing methods.WOW gives me a headache,but I think your on to something here. I gave this one a try like the others and have shot in the 70s 3 out of the last 6 rounds haven't done that in years. I always look forward to your videos have a Happy New Year!!
Happy New Year Scott! Thanks for sticking around and congrats on the scores.
After 2 years, almost 200 rounds played (in a 6 month golf season...) and lots of practice both at the range, into a net and just practicing the swing, I am "happy" with my SPS. It feels like "my" swing. When I address the ball, it feels like the right way, for me, to approach the shot. When I video my swings, both DTL and FO look like I want them to. I did it to ease (nay, eliminate) my back pain, which it did miraculously, but my consistency and accuracy compared to my previous, painful, conventional swing, is nothing but better all around. Keep up your good work, watch the body position at address, as the hips are "behind" the ankles which affects body rotation. Get them over the ankles and it will help avoid those pushes. May we all have a better New Year, we deserve and need it.
That's a pretty great bunch of results you've had. Something to be pleased with and proud of. So glad to hear it!
I am 60 years old, 5 foot six tall and in reasonable shape. I switched to the single plane swing in mid 2020. At that time i was playing off a handicap of 11 - 12. By the end of 2020 I was playing off single figures for the first time in my 40 years playing golf. Got it as low as 8 but mostly playing off 9 occasionally 10. I have continued to work on it and by the middle of 2021 I was regularily playing off 7 even getting down to 5 for a round or two. To get lower I need to improve my putting and short game in general but i am living proof that the single plane swing can improve your game greatly. I hit it further , higher and straighter than I ever have. Its a revelation. I have enjoyed watching your videos and hope you stick with the single plane swing. By the way i still hit that straight block out to the right occasionally. For me its caused by the ball creeping back towards the centre of my stance at address. Club face has not yet squared up. Cheers from the Gold Coast in Queensland Australia. !!!!
Wow David that's fantastic! It has been an awesome experience for me, too. It makes everything much simpler once you get it grooved.
Thanks for the entertainment this year, hope you and your family have a great new year and look forward to your insights.
Thanks Vic and same to you and yours!
Happy new year, to you and your family! This series has been brilliant. Loved the whole process. I think you was being hard on yourself, being disappointed with your last round - we aren't machines, bud. But as you later say: your overall performance and improvement has been nothing short of impressive. All the best for 2022. Looking forward to your next video.
Mr. K you have definitely helped to enhance the channel this year and the support has been phenomenal. A very happy New Year to you and yours.
@@GolfTestDummy Thank you, my friend!
Congratulations Chad - your SPS is really progressing and I suspect when you stretch your left lateral coming into impact (5:34) you'll pick up some more yardage. Thanks for sharing - happy golf trails.
Glad I came across your channel. You are a class act. I appreciate your insights and look forward to your epiphanies. Mr. Norman has helped us all and your addition to this knowledge is accretive. All the best to you for the new year too!
Happy New Year to you, and thanks a ton. Very much appreciate the kind words.
So rewatched all the videos in the series and I’m really impressed. Your swing looks great! I feel like we’re alike in that we’re both athletic and can make almost any swing work but to me you look the best here and who can deny the results? I also feel you took the right approach in finding your own Moe swing. I was initially turned off to SPS by Todd Graves when I realized I would have to get new clubs or get my current clubs really changed. I felt once I started down the path I couldn’t easily turn back . The way you did it works for me as new clubs are not in the budget right now. Good stuff. Really enjoyed it. Going to the range to try it.
Thank you sir! So glad that you watched them all so the context makes sense. After all of it and trying different things, I'm fully of the opinion that even though there are specific methods out there, you don't have to fit in to a box. As long as you start on the single plane and finish on the single plane at impact, it IS a single plane swing. You can make it your own.
Thanks for sticking with it to do a thorough and unbiased review. I tend to agree with you that there really has to be some variation in certain single plane swing parameters… for example, stance width and distance from ball should naturally vary somewhat based on a persons height (maybe some % scale factor at least).. it seems wrong to try and impose specific dimensions at setup for people of all sizes.
Agreed. Not to mention the fact that people have different flexibility and mobility. Thanks for the comment and have a great New Year!
good review, i mess around with it too but i should stick to one method. i'm a 12-13 hdcp. and games in the 70's are sacred, thnx for the info.
Nice work on the single plane. I hung in there for about 8 weeks…😳 some very low 9’s… but I bailed and now milo lines exclusively. I bombed my irons not so much with the driver - maybe 5 yards shorter. Have a great new year 👍🏻
Thanks for sticking with me Jeff! I hope you have a great New Year and keep hitting bombs.
Happy New Year Chad. Good results and a swing method you should stick with. But I’m sure you’ll test some more. On to channel lock perhaps or Mike Austin?
Time will tell, but for now, swinging on a single plane has made a big difference, so I'll stick with it. Not signing any swing methods contracts though, haha.
The way you started describing that round I was expecting you to say you shot 81, that score when you’re not hitting it good is really impressive. Really enjoy your channel, have you done a video about what’s in your bag and why you’ve chosen the clubs and putter you use.
Thanks Jim! Surprised me too, but like I said, the putter and short game saved me, haha. I've done a WITB, but not recently. I'll do one again soon.
I really enjoy watching your videos and sharing your authentic experiences. Well done, keep it up and I hope you have a happy and prosperous New Year!
Best from New Zealand, Pete
Thanks so much Pete and a very happy New Year to you and yours!
cheers Pal, have a great 2022
Right back at ya!
What shot tracer do you use?
Great series, Chad! I don’t recall if you mentioned it or not, but if you did it bares repeating, the SPS is much easier on the back. With my traditional swing I operated at a 1:2 ratio: one day of golf to two days of back pain. With SPS that is no longer is the case. I’ve been on two golf vacations in the last six months where I played 36 holes of golf/day for three straight days and had ZERO back pain. There was no way in the world I could’ve done that with my traditional swing. And, at 58 years old, my handicap is down to where it was when I was in my late 20s. If people are not able to play as much golf as they like due to back pain, I would strongly suggest they give the single plane swing a try.
Agreed! Back pain isn't a factor for me either with this swing. Sometimes my knees get a bit tweaked, but I have bad knees.
i shot 102 last week with my old swing creeping back in, couldn't move around for 2 days without back pain after either.
yesterday i went back to the SPS and shot 81 with zero back pain today😃.
as awkward as SPS feels it works every time.
i actually lose distance with driver/3 wood but gain a full club in the irons, definitely due to finding the centre of the face.
after feeling great the day after i was straight back on these videos to make sure i stick to this method.
not just for the more consistent scores but the painless play.
i feel i could comfortably play again today with zero pain.
Thats how golf should be, in my opinion. Maybe the pain involved in conventional golf swing models is a sign that were doing something wrong.
@@GolfTestDummy being an ex rugby player i always creep back into the "power" game and try to out muscle the golf course🤦♂️
i quite often have a terrible start to a round ( maybe 5-8 holes) before i realise I'm doing the old game patterns.
It's more than common for me to go 42-46 or so on the front 9 but correct myself and go 34ish on the back 9
Hi, Chad, It's great to be a single digit handicap player. Happy New Year and expecting more vids here in 2022.
Thanks Tao! Happy New Year!!
All good stuff. I think this works for sure with the woods and hybrids. If the irons were adjusted and maybe single length you could shoot even better.
Single length may be in my 2022 future. We shall see. Need a good sponsorship from Cobra haha!
I appreciate you testing these different approaches out. I am using the Single Plane swing, but I also like the Venetos approach of being still. I think it helps me swing smoother. Subscribed!
Thanks a ton James! It's so bad for your game to change methods over and over, so eventually, I need to stop, haha. But, I feel like at this point I've tested several different "alternatives" to conventional golf, and I've learned a lot from the experiences.
Great work and Feliz Año Nuevo to you! I really enjoyed watching your process.
Thanks so much Nomadic! Feliz Año Neuvo to you, too. Hopefully 2022 will be even better.
Partner, just stay with it. I have used it for over 20 years and never stuck the ball better. If I could putt I'd be "dangerous!" lol. Moe was the best.
Your on to it Chad. Keep working on your circle. The high shot is usually the straightist . work it into your circle and go from there and it will starts making sense. Happy New Year! Golf dummy.
Thanks Nat! Same to you and yours.
The journey has been fun to watch, eager for the new season.
Thanks Jari. Happy New Year!
What were you shooting before adopting SPS?
A Happy New Year to you as well! Congrats on the progress with the single plane swing. Having 4 consistent founds below 80 and cutting the handicap in half is awesome. I never lost distance myself. That usually occurs when people over do the straight line on one hand or the other. That removes the natural leverage found in the wrists. Losing the leverage = losing the distance. As ofr the blocks check your triangles they should form a straight line essentially that is parallel to the target line. If that line crosses the target line in the backswing you will likely finish the through swing across the line as well. Also check ball position. If its a little too far back it will influence the crossing the target line. The beauty of the swing is the ease with which problems can be fixed and the consistency it allows. It seems you're finding both. It's definitely made the game more fun for me. I hope it is for you. Also lets you challenge the course instead of it being a challenge to you. Again congrats on the progess and achievements. Keep hitting them straight in the new year!
Kevin thanks so much! You're absolutely right and off days happen to everybody except Moe, haha. The funny thing is, I know there's more in the tank. It's not spent. More improvement is just sitting there waiting for me.
@@GolfTestDummy absolutely right! Go get it friend!
I adopted the SPS 2 years ago and I wont' go back, it's the real deal, an easier way to play the game... I noticed that on all shots you showed us, you are always over the top and it comes from your take away. You pull the club inside early in the backswing, then at the top you have nowhere to go but over the top. Try to start the backswing with the left shoulder only, don't pull the club back. This way, the club will be on the proper plane and there will be no more over the top move in the transition. This will produce straighter shots. All the best to you !
If you keep it up there's no doubt in my mind that in the next six months you will break par....great work, keep it up!
Wheeewwww, man I hope you're right, haha! Time will tell. Thanks a ton for the encouragement!
Thank you for your latest journey, I have over the years been a CZcams searcher for the Holy Grail of golf swings. I play off a handicap of seven, but what I think holds me back, is the trying of new swing methods. I just love trying them, but I cannot stick with one, because I see new ideas every month or so , and give it a try. Single Plane, Stack & Tilt, Right Sided, Rotary Swing, Jim Venetos, Gravity Golf, Wisdom in Golf ect ect. It would be great to include a little of each to become a great golfer, but thats the Holy Grail. Would it be possible to do a survey from your subscribers and ask, How to become a great Putter, with the mental side as well included.See the feedback and go with the majority, and give it a go. I think the majority of golfers would be average three or four less handicap, if they had a fantastic pre shot mental routine, with a good stable technique. Love your feedback. From the UK
John thanks so much for this comment. I can completely identify. I see so many possibilities with so many methods. Combining components of each CAN work, but it would likely involve only mental aspects from some, so that the physical could be compatible. I'll pin your comment in the hopes of some putting feedback.
I'll also put out a community survey post, but those usually don't get many eyes on them.
@@GolfTestDummy Thank you so much, but whatever happens with you going forward I will be watching. Then I will change again lol
Happy New Year by the way.....Channel lock or Yogi next ?
Haha, I don't know Alan. I'm pretty happy with this for now, but lots of good stuff coming.
I noticed a slight difference from what I saw in your swing prior to this video. Before, you appeared better braced against the back leg and smoother. The main thing I saw today was this little tick hitch move forward right before your takeaway. This seemed to fracture the single plane ever so slightly before going back which seemed not as connected as before. That little forward tick is your first move instead of your normal takeaway with the plane pre set. Hope that makes sense, but you’re still striking outstanding and have helped my game significantly with your on target assessments and excellent communication I can understand. Thanks!
Pretty damn good observation Ed! This last round, something was off mentally, which of course manifested physically. My mind lost its usual focus and it showed.
Chad nice job very impressed with your SP swing and the video series.
Thanks Chris! A lot of weeks, a lot of work, haha.
@@GolfTestDummy if I remember you had some pretty good results with the Gary Edwin RSS?
I did, yes. One thing I want to do this year is go back and revisit these swing methods. So, be on the look out!
The single plane swing has bad and good days as any swing because every round is a different round and your body will play different, an example will be one day you will feel the arms are controlling the swing and one day the body turn will feel like it is controlling the swing when in truth they both play a part and feel can change between front and back nine.
Good to know of that giveaway u gonna make of those clubs there.... Happy new year amigo Chad ! best wishes
Haha, thanks Guss! Happy New Year!
Keeping your swing simple and "connected" is the best way to have swing that repeats day after day !
You have certainly given it your all that is for sure. I am not sure where you were from a handicap perspective before the change, but I did like the swing you have previously if I am being honest. You have a slight Jim Furyk/Matt Wolff move in your downswing that is still there and is what I think has allowed you to maintain your distance. I would love to see some swings in slow motion - possibly from the old to now to really see what has changed aside from the straightening of your arms at address. For me, that is about all I have taken from the SPS since it seems to help me make better contact. So I am building a custom swing around that using Kirk Junge's teachings and some of Shawn Clement's drills. I don't know if you experience it, but after swinging one way for so long, trying to change is really difficult. So many swing thoughts going through your head at any given time, which can result in a lot of confusion, discouragement and some very bad days. It's really a three steps forward two steps back process - for me anyway. And I am guessing it is what causes some of your angst with the swing even though the scores are good. Just some observations from a fan of your work. Been watching your journey and have tremendous respect for what you tried or have done depending on where decide to go in the future. Have a happy and safe New Year brother.
Thanks Alan! Yeah, making the change from swing to swing is difficult. Honestly, I don't know what's harder. Getting the old stuff out, or getting the new stuff in. And inevitably, some of the old stays in for me.
There is no silver bullet or magic pill. At the end of the day, we all have to execute. To err is human and we will err. Even Moe never attained the pinnacle as Woods or Nicholas. What you are doing is a great service to us in giving light to these separate methods. Its up to us to pick a lane. You keep telling us that, but we don't seem to listen. That being said, I'm a SPS myself and can play a round and still come home and mow/weedeat the damn yard without taking an ice bath.😆 I'm 53 years old and things don't move as good as they used to. Or rebound. Thank you and I do look forward to what you bring to us next.
Lots more in the library Steve, and thanks a bunch. Things are slowing down on me, too, but I'm starting to think it may be a good thing. Too much gasoline on the fire when you're younger.
Hi Chad great job! Glad it’s working for you. Maybe I missed it on previous videos but did you make any changes to your clubs to accomplish this? That was my main concern when looking at this. Happy New Year!
I had the same concerns prior to starting, but no modifications needed. Go back and watch the series. Good stuff in there!
@@GolfTestDummy I’ve watched part of it. Will watch again. Thank you.
Happy New Year Jawjuh!
keep with it. Keep your back foot down a little longer through the ball and the accuracy will come back.
Thanks Steven! Happy New Year to you and yours!
Quick question. Since making the transition to single plane, my irons are cracking! However, the driver has gone further south from already substandard. Any wisdom you might share in going to a 1 iron length or 40” driver to greater align with my iron performance? Thank you, sir.
Ed the latest video on the channel deals with my yardages and my driver woes specifically. This week, a new video is scheduled to try and fix it.
Hi there, this is the first vid I've seen so sorry if its been asked many times. But just wondering where you got a lot of your swing ideas off? I've been watching Kirk Junge and i really like his approach and it makes me want to attempt this but i know it needs commitment. Your swing and setup looks a lot like his. Are you still using single plane to this day?
I'm not, no, but not because it's not great. It is. But the channel has had a theme for over 4 years now of experimenting, so I moved on to the next one. I watched a lot of Kirk and Todd Graves, but honestly, I watched as much Moe as I could, more than anything.
Love this one ❤
It loves you back 😘
I hope you gonna look into Count Yogi next year.
I've read Yogis book twice, haha. Have a copy in my nightstand by the bed.
@@GolfTestDummy its my little bible. I am 59 playing hcp 4 with an easy yogi swing. Would love to see you explore it
I've actually done 1 video on what I think might be the Counts real secret. It was a few months back. The thumbnail pic has a black and white spiraling circle. I'll do some more Yogi stuff here and there I'm sure. 2022 isn't written just yet! Haha.
@@GolfTestDummy ha ha i look it up. Lets share some golf fun coming year 💚🏌🏻♂️⛳️
@@ChiTherapie what is Yogi golf?
Single plane >> than 2 plane swing. That is my story, and J am sticking to it
Did you ever go to a graves golf school or online coaching?
Can you try the Larry Rinker, upper core swing?
Wow, I actually havent heard of that one. That's rare that someone mentions a swing method I haven't at least got on my radar. I'll search that one up and see what I can find.
He’s got great content on CZcams. Also hosted a show on the Golf Channel.
That's it. I'm buying it
Two thing i seen. Keep Trail foot down longer and line clubs up of the heel. Should see a difference.
Thanks Benjamin!
Congrats on the scoring and overall improvement. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy and all the best for the new year to you and yours. I much appreciate your candor and openness in every respect with regard to your golf journey. What I thought about the swing in this recent video is that you were being hampered by your old friend; the takeaway. If you look for example at 4:27, you are somewhat early bowing and hooding your lead wrist (club quite closed) and the trail arm is still straight (not folding right from the start) when the club is parallel to the toe line. If you compare Todd's position in this video (czcams.com/video/FWFXikbZ7Es/video.html at 2:39 and 3:13 is a closeup of the same position) when the club shaft is even with the toe line to yours at 4:27 when your shaft is at the toe line, you can see virtually all of the differences that cause the across the line move and most likely certain inconsistencies. Notice his lead wrist is not hooded and is fairly straight, the toe of the club is less closed, the trail arm is much more bent and the trail elbow is tracking more with the trail side or his torso as it moves back (yours is still way forward). Significantly the club arm unit is also significantly higher as the shaft is crossing above his knee (because it is travelling more up the plane line). From your hooded wrist position with straightish trail arm and low club position, the club is definitely going to work upward from there and ultimately cross the line. You are still doing a lot of things very well but I would say that if you get your takeaway ironed out you will make big strides forward toward perfecting your technique and improving (even further) your results. I also think that your hips are a little over active for a SPS but I think that is partially, at least, caused by the takeaway issue. So the pattern is that you are significantly (much more than Todd who is a little low like Moe) below the plane line and hooded on the way back and the over the plane line significantly with a cupped (open) lead wrist in the first half of the downswing and then you manage to have it quite on plane from shaft parallel down to the ball (at the cost of losing your spine angle a bit, I believe). I think that some of these things have been at least partially fixed in earlier videos but of course, the golf course always puts more stress on our games and old habits return more easily. I think that some kind of feedback that helps you determine how accurate your takeaway pattern is would be helpful. For example, swinging with a coat hanger along the grip will let you look down and see if the top of the hanger is moving with the pattern that you know is correct (having determined it beforehand). If you use a brightly colored one, you can easily spot if the pattern of movement is right or not. Or perhaps having a plane line drawn somewhere such that you can trace the line with the clubhead on the way back and verify the open/closed status as well. As I have mentioned, I believe that the takeway is one of THE keys to a great golf swing and it pretty much pre-determines the swing with rare exception. I hope that this is helpful as that is its intention. Cheers.
Hey I can see your comments again, haha! No idea what happened in that last video, but for some reason, I'd get a notification, click on it, and it would say "comment is no longer available". Anyway, you're right in this comment. I knew it on the drive home, lol. Mentally, some perception was off. It got better as the round progressed, but it was almost like a fog that robbed some part of my focus. Happy New Year Timothy!
@@GolfTestDummy Yeah, I tried to comment again and then delete and recreate comments and nothing worked so I gave up. We all know fogs happen in golf to the best of them and especially under pressure and I would find it pressure-filled to "file a report card" so to speak on something complex that I had been learning in front of an audience. Oh and by the way, you're also the test administrator! So you've been doing great. I also wanted to compliment you on your sartorial presentation for the round since I'm sure you put some thought into it. Nice accents and color coordination! :-) Cheers.
This method looks like a keeper.
Agreed. And the great thing is that you can make it your own. You sent have to fit in to someone else's mold.
get all your information from Todd Graves. He is the finest teacher of the Single Plane Swing
I have done some sps lately, why? Well I tried it earlier this year and the first thing I noticed was the sound of the impact, it was that "click" the pure hit in the sweetspot, I havent experienced that before. So two rounds ago, I Just went back to wide stance, high hands and that static kinda swing and the sound came back, click, took the ball almost clean, and I felt that I could handle the clubhead much better with higher precision.
I dont know about that flexed leadleg post impact though, it feels awkvard. Guess I need some more training.
If you don't need that knee, I wouldn't worry about it. If what you're doing works, stick with it!
Excellent vid. Thank you. The last comment about staying planted on the trail foot indicates that you were predominantly following a specific 'method'. As a matter of interest, did you look at the work of Kurt Junge who is not quite as dogmatic about having to duplicate Moe in any precise sense??
I did, yes. Kirk Junge, Todd Graves, Moe himself, etc. Thanks, Bill!
Like Todd says! Wake Up Everyday And Know Your Going To Hit It Good! Four rounds under 80 has to be fun!
This swing review has been a blast and I couldn't be happier with the results so far. Gotta keep pushing though and see how much better I can get before 2023!
I do not see how one could lose distance on the single plane swing. I gained 10 to 15 yards on every Club
Cutting your handicap in half is amazing! Congrats! I’m not sure how you can expect anything better…Remember that Moe hit thousands and thousands of balls to perfect his swing. Not sure how anyone can expect to come close to that unless you’re practicing for hours a day 🤷♂️
Haha, exactly right! Managing expectations is crucial. I'm thrilled so far, but no way am I going to sit on my laurels.
It ain’t the arrow, it’s the Indian. Crossing the line at the top with that loopy loop thing going on.
I think you had some paralysis by analysis on the course.
The better test is to do 5 rounds(if you can do more that would be better) and then based on that data you can better gauge where you are as one round is too small of a sample size.
Look forward to your videos in the New Year!
PS could you do a video next year on the Lag Shot or G force club? I was wondering if using the tool and following the videos/drills where your game could improve. There has been some good vids, like Mr Shortgame, but no long term reviews. I bought the Lag shot myself for Xmas so curious what a golfer like yourself thinks of the product.
Thanks Brent! I'd say there's a good chance I'll be trying some products in the upcoming year. I haven't looked at the price of the Lag Shot, but if it's affordable, I might buy one to try.
@@GolfTestDummy @lagshotgolf - send this man some equipment to review!!!!
Isn't that right foot supposed to stay down till after the hit?
It depends on which SPS teacher you follow, haha. Some say yes, some say no. I've experimented with both, and both have worked for me. That said; Always a work in progress.
Moe Norman who used this swing decades ago kept his foot down thru impact. It actually creates a limitation into the impact position
I’m seeing a few pulls sir. Is this the fault off the tee that you’ve noticed most?
Generally speaking, most of my misses are blocks, but with driver, I c an get it going left occasionally. I think it's an over correction to prevent a block when I'm not swinging great.
So whats the Master Move?
Haha, well, Moe said the master move was to let the club fall behind you, while you slide forward, and lean away from the target, while pulling a wide open clubface down the target line then up to the sky. That was his feel, but not the real. In any event, that worked for him. For me, my master move is making the circle and trying to do it on plane. Period. Really simple.
@@GolfTestDummy The "Abridged" Move :D God bless and the best for the new year
Sounds like you had a bad day. If I can shoot in the 70’s, count me in. I wouldn’t mind a bad day now and then if for the most part I break 80. Moe Norman hit hundreds of balls a day. He was consistently great…
Your right elbow is still flying outward, should be tucked more to the side of your body.
I know, I know, but I've been working on the single plane swing with Moe Norman and Todd Graves for the past couple of years.
Chad
With all the swing systems that you’ve tried and shared with us all and most appreciated for the effort
I’m just wondering why you’ve not shown JH’s Channel Lock here
Just wondering
It's a great question and the truth is, I was actually planning on that just before Shawn Clement reached out. Once I started that one, it went on for a few months and I just lost the plan. One issue I was trying to reconcile was which version of Channel Lock to try. The original with open foot line? The Tennesee Triangle? I feel like the open foot line and back ball position, the original, was the best version. When you set up the triangle, you drop the trail foot back, and you're essentially square again aren't you? In any event, I was going to go through both and address all of that, but got sidetracked with Shawn. That said, 2022 isn't written yet, and Channel Lock may very well get done.
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The original is the original
What was tried to be added to Channel Lock like the triangle was not the original CL and was discarded
Looking forward to your showing of CL
Very simple and it works
SIMPLE>>>>>>>>>>>you stand up thru the shot, which will not allow you to release properly!!
The only thing that is holding you back at this time is your mental game. You clearly have the game to post a score of par or better. You have to remember it's still golf and not every round is going to go as you hope. PGA Tour players have bad rounds all the time and they are best in the world. I believe you need to stop going out with a score in mind and only concern yourself with making a quality swing on your next shot. To many variables in this game that you cannot control. If you change your mindset, I would expect you to post multiple scores in 2022 of par or better.
Totally agree. Early on in the round, there was almost a fog mentally that I couldn't put my finger on. Something was just off. My opinion is that shot results or outcomes found their way into my brain. My best comes when I just think about making a good circle. Period. Everything else is noise that loves to sabotage.
Chad, it looks like your coming up too soon on the trail foot. Just an observation.
BTW Happy New Year, let's pray for better days!
I've tried keeping it down and letting it come up. The results have been mixed. I'll keep working on it.
Thanks Bill, and better days are coming!
Looks like you followed Todd Graves? I naturally had a single plane swing and had decent ball striking, but when I looked to correct a few things, I started watching Todd and for me my ball striking went down hill badly. I couldn’t get his method to work for me, I then moved on to Kirk Junge because his swing looked exactly like my old swing. Now I’m not saying anything negative about Todd, just saying his strict adherence to be like Moe in every way just didn’t fit me. Moe himself said make it your own. So the incoherent babbling I’m making leads to…. There is more than one way to achieve a single plain swing. Bryson Dechambeau’s single plain swing isn’t exactly Moe Normans single plane swing, far from it.
I didn't try to stick with any of the coaches really, and I agree totally with you.
@@GolfTestDummy 👍and no matter your swing chipping and putting is where your really going to improve your score! Good Vid
Your lower body is too fast. Feel like you’re standing still and you’ll hit it straighter.
This is all complete and total nonsense.
Gotta ask; Why is that?
@@GolfTestDummy …. If you don’t know then I certainly can’t explain it to you. It would be like trying to explain what “logic and discernment” are.
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