What is a UV Flatbed printer? A Quick Look at the Roland LEF-12i

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  • čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
  • Find info on this specific printer here: www.rolanddga.com/products/pr...
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    Roland did not sponsor this video, but they did loan us this unit to film. I'll be sad to see it go though, it was pretty impressive!
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Komentáře • 95

  • @MAKE
    @MAKE  Před 4 lety +10

    Can you imagine one of these at your makerspace? What would you use it for?

    • @CalebKraftmakes
      @CalebKraftmakes Před 4 lety +1

      having this sitting in my space, I went through journals, keychains, laptops. I keep thinking of stuff I could put cool designs on.

    • @ISTOmaker
      @ISTOmaker Před 4 lety +1

      Print money on paper?

    • @thatguyfromca
      @thatguyfromca Před 3 lety

      They use these for cell phone cases. They can do like 10 at a time in some machines

    • @duckalienvaded
      @duckalienvaded Před 3 lety

      Phone cases, Lego and other things

    • @matthewpearson5461
      @matthewpearson5461 Před 3 lety

      How can you print on inside of laptop got printer today and its not big enough to fit a open laptop on?

  • @Dstonephoto
    @Dstonephoto Před 2 lety +19

    As someone who just found out that these things exist it’s disappointing to find out there are so few videos that actually cover wtf it is these things do and what they’re all about. Is this video as good as it gets ?

  • @thebittenmac
    @thebittenmac Před 4 lety +2

    I always appreciated Roland for their products like plotters and embroidery plotters I saw back in the 80s 👍

  • @hannahmiller3513
    @hannahmiller3513 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for making this video! It was so helpful and full of the information I've been looking for

  • @fated2pretend
    @fated2pretend Před 2 lety

    awesome video - especially appreciate you talking about the software and printing on uneven surfaces. Thanks

  • @GeekBuildersNet
    @GeekBuildersNet Před 4 lety +2

    You get to test out the coolest stuff. This is awesome.

  • @BetaOp9
    @BetaOp9 Před rokem

    Awesome video. Would have loved more samples and video of it printing this was an excellent overview.

  • @MikeCheung1
    @MikeCheung1 Před 4 lety +9

    We have an LEF 300. Keep in mind ink is ~$100/ cartridge and the printer requires constant cleaning by jetting ink into a wast bin (which it automatically does) to keep the head viable. Plan for $700 in replacement every few months whether you print or not.

    • @philhennessy7344
      @philhennessy7344 Před rokem

      Hey dude, what are the printing costs roughly?

    • @zacharysearcy
      @zacharysearcy Před rokem +1

      why would it need to be replaced if it's been cleaned and not used?

  • @fac3th3wolf
    @fac3th3wolf Před 4 lety +2

    I thought Roland made electronic instruments and related equipment. Nothing like this. That is AWESOME!!

    • @muraduki200
      @muraduki200 Před 4 lety +1

      Their two different companies, I had to look that up to. lol

  • @RTCDigitalS
    @RTCDigitalS Před 2 měsíci

    If it can print texture do you think it can be used to make embossing folders ?

  • @harveyhopkins6627
    @harveyhopkins6627 Před 2 lety

    Can it print translucent images?

  • @Willam_J
    @Willam_J Před 4 lety +54

    “Built for makers...”
    Priced for corporations.

    • @jabbaweezy
      @jabbaweezy Před 3 lety

      ^

    • @armentumhominum9931
      @armentumhominum9931 Před 3 lety

      Like 3D printers, CNC, Software and tools. They started expensive and they're cheap now. Stop whining, you're living in the best time in history.

    • @Willam_J
      @Willam_J Před 3 lety +5

      @@armentumhominum9931 - Have you priced this unit??? In case you haven’t, it’s MSRP is $18K, WITHOUT any options or accessories. I know that things come down in price, but even at half of that amount, how many individuals, or even maker spaces, could afford that? Even if they could scratch that much money up, how would they justify the expense of buying it?
      Believe me, I know that we live during good times. I’ve been an EE for 33 years, and a hobbyist for 43 years. I still can’t believe how cheap things are, nowadays. I could certainly afford one, but unless I was starting a short-run printing business, I could never justify the cost of it. Again, even if these start selling for half of this price, how many are going to be sold to ‘makers’? This machine may be worth every bit of $18K, but it’s being pitched to the wrong market. That’s the point I was trying to make.

    • @armentumhominum9931
      @armentumhominum9931 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Willam_J I missed your point, sorry about that. It makes sense, and I agree 100%.

    • @Willam_J
      @Willam_J Před 3 lety +1

      @@armentumhominum9931 - Thank you for letting me clear that up. I understand your reaction, though. The comment sections are always full of people complaining about being broke, but who also haven’t made any effort at getting a job, either. Back when I got started, I rode my bicycle around the alleys of Chicago, looking for discarded electronics. (We weren’t poor, but we weren’t well off, either.) Then, I went to a local TV shop and asked if they had any abandoned electronic items that they’d like to get rid of. Boy, did they! My father and I had to make two trips with his station wagon. I spent most of my time stripping equipment for components and sorting them. I couldn’t afford to go to Radio Shack every time I needed parts. Those stripped components allowed me to make many great projects. I even etched my own PC boards, when I had enough money for copper clad board and etchant. I could only dream of things like $3 Arduino boards. Hell… At the time, Radio Shack wanted almost $2 for five resistors.
      Trust me, you’re not alone. I’ve also had the same reaction, when people complain about the cost of components, tools and test equipment. If they were any cheaper, they’d be free! 😂

  • @fruechtekorb
    @fruechtekorb Před 4 lety +2

    @make: Did you guys try to use it as a resist printer for etching?

    • @MikeCheung1
      @MikeCheung1 Před 4 lety

      I’ve tried with clear primer for salt water electrolysis and it didn’t work. Might work for ferric chloride though.

  • @mmouseav8r402
    @mmouseav8r402 Před 4 lety +1

    Durability of the prints?

  • @koloasurf2012
    @koloasurf2012 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi, what you don't mentioned is that the user need to know how to use Photoshop and and illustrator or Corel draw to use this machine. Making the a print is slow and the actual print is very slow. I have one and it took a while to get it setup correctly and still difficult to use.

  • @praveen8
    @praveen8 Před 2 lety

    Can it print on plain white "cricket gloves"?

  • @eshratsohail2820
    @eshratsohail2820 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi i what print on polythene small size bag it posible

  • @IVAN_ENT
    @IVAN_ENT Před 4 lety +19

    thought you were wearing a bathrobe if you had more grey hair you would be the dude haha

  • @samikhalid2507
    @samikhalid2507 Před rokem

    how much price

  • @BaconbuttywithCheese
    @BaconbuttywithCheese Před 4 lety +9

    Need a business model to afford just the operating cost, never mind the initial or ongoing outlay.

  • @carramba86h77
    @carramba86h77 Před 4 lety +7

    Hey Lebowski, dude.

  • @karimabdi9373
    @karimabdi9373 Před 3 lety

    Can print on latex balloon?

  • @noorzada3225
    @noorzada3225 Před 4 lety

    👍👍👍👍

  • @volkhen0
    @volkhen0 Před 4 lety +1

    There are also bigger models LEF2-200 and 300.

  • @vkjnrokis
    @vkjnrokis Před 4 lety +10

    The price is insane.

    • @JO-ly3hi
      @JO-ly3hi Před 3 lety

      $17,995.00 for the 12" model

    • @armentumhominum9931
      @armentumhominum9931 Před 3 lety +1

      It will drop in a few years, like everything does. The age of whinning, god damn.

    • @arnaldofernandez
      @arnaldofernandez Před 3 lety +2

      @@armentumhominum9931 excuse us, Mr. Billionaire 🤣🤣

    • @armentumhominum9931
      @armentumhominum9931 Před 3 lety

      @@arnaldofernandez State your case as to why the product is overpriced then. "I can't afford it" isn't a valid argument.

    • @nick066hu
      @nick066hu Před rokem

      There are quite usable Chinese alternatives in the 2500-4000 USD price range. They usually have a printhead form EPSON.

  • @kennydeco
    @kennydeco Před 4 lety

    What UV printer company do you recommend

  • @FredMcIntyre
    @FredMcIntyre Před 4 lety +1

    😃👍🏻👊🏻

  • @arnaldofernandez
    @arnaldofernandez Před 3 lety

    I was waiting for a few seconds of the printer doing its job, to hear the sound, etc.

  • @HaddytheCreator
    @HaddytheCreator Před 3 lety

    this thing is amazing- id love to own one... but 18k aint no artists pocket change...

  • @Henchman1977
    @Henchman1977 Před 4 lety +3

    Big Lebowski vibe....

  • @ChrisPrefect
    @ChrisPrefect Před 4 lety +7

    I still don't know how a UV Flatbed printer works. Is it like an inkjet printer just with more splash-range? And where comes the UV part into play?

    • @ZappyOh
      @ZappyOh Před 4 lety +6

      How fast is it? ... does it smell? ... is it toxic? ... How much ink does it use? ... etc. etc.
      Tons of questions unanswered.

    • @ManScoutsofAmerica
      @ManScoutsofAmerica Před 4 lety

      The UV part probably has something to do with instant curing.

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Před 4 lety

      Yes, I want to know aswell!. And how do you remove it?

    • @michaelcopeland9713
      @michaelcopeland9713 Před 4 lety +1

      A scratch test with a fingernail would be nice to see. Do u need to clear coat prints?

    • @drehscheibchen
      @drehscheibchen Před 4 lety

      The uv light cures the ink immediately - so whatever you print comes out pretty much dry. That's how it works :) the ink isn't suited for objects that come anywhere near your mouth though.

  • @brunosmith6925
    @brunosmith6925 Před rokem

    ... So where do we see you actually using it?

  • @GrahamToal
    @GrahamToal Před 4 lety +1

    Looks like it includes white ink for dark materials. That is just the ticket for making Vectrex screen overlays!

  • @nick066hu
    @nick066hu Před rokem

    I heard UV printers are meant to be used regularly, so the printheads do not get clogged. For an occasional user (as I would be) it would be an expensive nightmare replacing the very expensive printheads after each printing pause lasting more than 24-48 hours or so... Is it really so?

  • @bioshock6935
    @bioshock6935 Před 2 lety

    wow having something like this you can start up your own business if i was rich that's what i would like to do

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 Před 4 lety

    DOOD!

  • @xit1254
    @xit1254 Před 4 lety

    If the government doesn't interfere, market competition will drive the price down.

  • @ZappyOh
    @ZappyOh Před 4 lety +4

    18K? ... Not for me then :/

    • @CalebKraftmakes
      @CalebKraftmakes Před 4 lety

      yeah, it is a serious investment. On par with something big like a cnc router. Probably not many home gamers in line for it, but makerspaces and other facilities can make sense

    • @daa3417
      @daa3417 Před 4 lety

      They aren’t marketing it at you, nor is the one they sell for $150k...

  • @revelthemad
    @revelthemad Před 3 lety +1

    WHERE'S THE MONEY LEBOWSKI?!

  • @williamhuang5329
    @williamhuang5329 Před 3 lety

    Hanzhen harmonic drive gear , over 30 years epxerience in industrial robot arm gear reducer

  • @OutletFlow
    @OutletFlow Před 4 lety +2

    aaand i will never be able to afford it

  • @debeunhazen7632
    @debeunhazen7632 Před 4 lety +2

    looks like the cybertruck tho...

    • @volkhen0
      @volkhen0 Před 4 lety

      Hahaha, that's a good one.

  • @samikhalid2507
    @samikhalid2507 Před rokem

    ....?

  • @phantomxmods3095
    @phantomxmods3095 Před 2 lety

    700$- Hell yeah what a steal
    1,700$- Not bad at all...I'll just pay in installments every month
    7,000$- ....I guess if I sell the cars and charge to the emergency credit card we can get it
    17,000$...oh and the ink is like 400$-....Alright somebody is getting punched in the face

  • @chialor1945
    @chialor1945 Před 3 lety +2

    Can it print money? Lololol

  • @djal1030
    @djal1030 Před 4 měsíci

    this is not for the DYI.

  • @JD2jr.
    @JD2jr. Před 4 lety

    17k? geez, I was thinking like 1k...

    • @daa3417
      @daa3417 Před 4 lety

      And then you woke up right? This is clearly meant for professional print shops not hobby makers.

    • @JD2jr.
      @JD2jr. Před 4 lety

      @@daa3417 I realize that once seeing the price, but since you can get other related techs (3Dprinting, CNC, lasers) of a similar size (only about a sheet of paper+ some height) for a few hundred to a couple thousand, I thought it would perhaps the same (especially since you also need crazy expensive ink). I'm guessing if this becomes popular, the prices will plummet soon, since 90% of the machine is already cheaply available by way of these other areas

  • @octapc
    @octapc Před 4 lety +5

    An idea of wash ability or durability or dishwasher safe etc etc. thumbs down 👎🏻

    • @MikeCheung1
      @MikeCheung1 Před 4 lety

      Nicholas Heidl medium durability. Not affected by water, but can scratch similar to paint.

    • @octapc
      @octapc Před 4 lety

      Mike Cheung what is your experience with this printer?

    • @MikeCheung1
      @MikeCheung1 Před 4 lety

      Nicholas Heidl we have the biggest one for about a year and a half now. It’s kinda temperamental and needs us to stay up on its maintenance, but results are amazing. We use it every day, and it paid for itself within about 6 mo! Super happy we got it.

    • @MikeCheung1
      @MikeCheung1 Před 4 lety

      Nicholas Heidl printed this on a big slab of acrylic, front and back only instagram.com/p/B4FzZl-AMTJ/?igshid=1slabczq2qb93

  • @antonypoppins
    @antonypoppins Před rokem

    Worst printer i hav can't print on metal or plastic. And also the ink price is too high. I several times complained the service person about this and now the mother board is dead delay of ink supply and parts it's not only our problem same machine was bought after us by our recommendation they having Same situation it's really a worst product from Roland and hear after wil newr suggest ur printer especially flatbed 😔😔😔 newer expected this from ur brand

    • @fineprints132
      @fineprints132 Před rokem

      Really?.....not plastic...plastic pens etc...? What can it print on...what type of / material surfaces do you use it on

  • @karimabdi9373
    @karimabdi9373 Před měsícem

    can print on latex balloon?