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basically its all about SPEED (how fast your army can move) FIREPOWER (how much damage your army can cause to others) and PROTECTION (how much damage your army can sustain if hit), the choice is pretty much chosing which army has the best of these 3 attributes right?
say you spend thousands of dollars over the yrs building and painting your army and you wanna quite, can you ever try and SELL your army and pieces? is there a website for this? do people every make money from selling their collections or is it basically dead money from a financial sense every time?
no ones ever asked you this question but who if i like every army and i just wanna collect and paint the BIGGER characters from whatever army they might be from and not play with them in competition but just out them in my glass cabinet and admire them, does anyone actually do that? just buy big characters from whichever army that just look cool and thats it?
what is BETTER to chose an army, and than buy HUNDREDS of small foot soldier type pieces or just a few foot soldior type pieces and than get 2-3 HUGE pieces like space ships or bikes etc... or armoured carriers
I have a suggestion for new players. Don't get 2k points to start but get 500 - 1k and play games with those first. You should be able to get games in still, learn the game on simpler terms and get a better feel for what units and playstyles that fit you within the faction to some degree.
@@Wes-xk6hl It was something I didn't fully consider when starting not too long ago and think someone else who is just starting could benefit from hearing.
I think the best faction to start is death guard because their durability is built in, their contagion ability is strong and easy to use, their models are forgiving to paint and they have a solid unit roster. You can play them hordy, elite or something in between. Their psychic powers are strong, their melee is great and because they aren't that hard to play, you can have a good experience in your first tournament. (You usually play atleast three games with your faction in a row so ease of play definitely is a factor here)
Best advice I can give is look into the lore and go with an army you connect with and think is cool. I didn’t do this and wound up unhappy with my first two armies. Also, DO NOT make a decision based on how “powerful” an army is. Power level will change and shift over the course of any edition … play what you find fun.
It's literally this unfortunately. This and how they feel to play. Anything other than that is asking to waste tons of money. Doesn't matter if what u think is coolest is the worst thing in the game. Don't chase that carrot. Now only if gw didn't play into this bs to steal money from people chasing meta and people like us wouldn't have to suffer
I think it's important to consider if it can ally with something else gives you some models you can put into another army. Chaos are great you can add knights and daemons with out breaking your bonuses. Less codex creep and list fatigue as your possible roster of units and play style is much broader than something like Tau, Orks or Necrons
Recently started mustering models with the recruit edition starter set painting them as space wolves. Love the Lore, Aesthetic, Playstyle, and abilities they have. I knew going in painting might be somewhat difficult but I've managed alright so far. Other factions and chapters I'm fond of as well I just couldn't pass up the space vikings that turn into space werewolves. Plus a chapter master like Logan Grimnar is hard to pass up. You've got to be a special kind of badass to go up against the inquisition on multiple occasions and come out relatively unscathed with minimal repercussions. Also TTS has been extremely helpful since I moved, it allows me to not only play test lists and models before I buy but I've been able to play with friends in different states as well
chose my armies with what i like and find interesting, be that the figures or the lore. atm i will soon be at 8 armies, 2 for AoS and 6 for 40k, the newest will be Iron warriors that i plan to use Vashtorr in when he comes out :) so the armies are Tyranids (my first 40k army), Necrons, Iron Hands, Imperial Knights, DG and soon Iron Warriors. for AoS it is Seraphons (from all the way back when they where called Lizardmen) and now also Gloomspite Gits (Squigs) :D for me i look up both models and lore about them to see if they interest me, then look at rules to see what models i want. :) ofc cool looking models is also nice, just to get and paint :D
This is great advice. I’ve decided to collect Space Marines. I was always drawn to them, mainly because I like sci-fi armies like Clone Troopers from Star Wars. They’re very reliable to use and noob friendly, plus you can make your own successor chapters. I plan to make an offshoot of the Ultramarines
This video comes at exactly the right time. At the point of jumping back in after forever. Honestly, if they were available I'd probably just go pick up two boxes of the World Eaters starter box but that does not seem to be the case. Will this video prevent me from/encourage me to go buy an alternate box tomorrow morning instead?
I’m in the situation where I’ve dug deep into the lore of everyone and love the look of every faction. I don’t know who to start collecting for my first army because for the past 6 years I’ve just come to love every single faction. Any advice would help me out a lot!
This is a comprehensive, very eloquent presentation, Trevy. If you were to ask me, I'd say picking an army is primarily about the lore. The backstory is such a massive presence in Warhammer, you gotta relate to a faction if you're gonna make them a part of your life. And since you're gonna spend perhaps 80% of the time painting and 20% of the time playing, you also need to pick an army that you think you can pull off artistically. I'm much better at painting Chaos than loyalist armies, so all my stuff is very sinister looking. I think my good guys are more "meh" .
My advice is to choose the army off aesthetics and lore first. Then consider the work involved (number of mini's, difficulty to paint), cost if that's important, and playstyle in the game. I would also do your best to "finish" an army. By finish I mean to clear your entire pile of shame for that army or hit a milestone where you can clear your mind of the need to work on that army. I've been enjoying my Drukhari army for 3.5 years (finished) and Seraphon from AoS for 1 year. I'm a few months away from finishing the Seraphon army and my next project will be Ossiarch Bonereapers which I've just started building.
Those are the 2 armies I play hahah. Can recommend both and both play "similar", since WE are 99% melee, and Dg are generally a lot more melee based than shooting. If you want too be able too play the game in more than just the charge and fight phase, go with DG. If all you care about is charging and slapping people with axe's and chain swords go WE 😂
Step 1: paint some squads yellow with checkerboard pauldrons Step 2: convert model for FW character Step 3: character is made legends Step 4: cry Step 5: get *really* mad Step 6: pick Flesh Tearers
another consideration that helped me, as someone who has been in the hobby for a while and couldn't decide and army hoped for a whole edition. All the models didn't really stand out anymore as I'm used to what they look like so, I took influence from other games that I enjoyed like league of legends or magic the gathering. I enjoy twitch and shaco and blue black decks from MTG, so it was apparent that I just enjoyed messing with people. So harlequins was a good fit for me. Just another angle for people to think about.
I’m new to the game.. as an OG StarCraft player I’m going Zerg all the way. Tyranids is the way to go !!! Good or bad, it’s just different from all the other factions
I started with Nids/GSC back in what. 2nd? Around 89-91 time frame. So back when zoans had legs and bunny warriors. Picked up chaos (Night Lords and 1k sons) throughout the years. Went Dark Eldar with the Pirates of Darkwater meets Hellraiser in SPAAACE during the revamp. When 1k and GSC got their own new books o guess counts as picking up, th ough never dropped them. Armies I played but dropped over the years. Sisters of Battle, Orks and Dark Angels. I just started Necrons. Always liked them but their old model range was uninspiring. With the difficulty of getting Tomb Kings I've needed to scratch that itch and started to work on adding Necrons to my way too many armies. And that's only for 40k, not including how many armies I have from Fantasy... I would have also started Squats but...They're lore, model design and concept are utterly boring to me. Which is sad as dwarfs are one of my Fantasy armies. Anywho. My suggestion is...pick the models you like the look of. Don't worry about competitive or you'll be stuck chasing your tail and making GW richer with whack a mole balance. Take models you like and try to make them work. Some of my favorite experiences in game is playing underpowered models and factions and outplayed or figuring out how to win. Mostly my Beastmen and Tomb Kings... Also don't feel you need to chase the most up to date codex and rules. Play older editions if you like how an army plays previously. So ya. Short and sweet choose on if you like the models or lore/concept. Painting? You'll get there. Practice, practice, practice. Competitive? Get better at playing the game and ignore the math hammer arm chair generals. Playing a game is vastly different than just running numbers rhat are bias as they generally only take considerations that would support what their argument is.
Play what you like not what’s meta. It’s a crummy tactic that GW did this edition by outrageously buffing some factions just to make a buck and then nerf them later. I play marines and they were done dirty all edition. It sucks more that codex factions never got their supplements at all.
Yeah I came into the game late 8th and have been hearing about and it’s been nothing new. Still is crummy business tactics to take advantage of your customer base to do so.
@Jason completely. They also do the old Nintendo tactic of creating a need for products by hyping them up and then short supplying them so they sell out quickly. Makes people more likely to impuse buy when they find items in stock. I really spent too much time in retail 🤣
Thanks for watching! Good luck starting your new 40k army!
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basically its all about SPEED (how fast your army can move) FIREPOWER (how much damage your army can cause to others) and PROTECTION (how much damage your army can sustain if hit), the choice is pretty much chosing which army has the best of these 3 attributes right?
say you spend thousands of dollars over the yrs building and painting your army and you wanna quite, can you ever try and SELL your army and pieces? is there a website for this? do people every make money from selling their collections or is it basically dead money from a financial sense every time?
no ones ever asked you this question but who if i like every army and i just wanna collect and paint the BIGGER characters from whatever army they might be from and not play with them in competition but just out them in my glass cabinet and admire them, does anyone actually do that? just buy big characters from whichever army that just look cool and thats it?
what is BETTER to chose an army, and than buy HUNDREDS of small foot soldier type pieces or just a few foot soldior type pieces and than get 2-3 HUGE pieces like space ships or bikes etc... or armoured carriers
I have a suggestion for new players. Don't get 2k points to start but get 500 - 1k and play games with those first. You should be able to get games in still, learn the game on simpler terms and get a better feel for what units and playstyles that fit you within the faction to some degree.
Do u enjoy saying the most obvious thing u can think of?
@@Wes-xk6hl It was something I didn't fully consider when starting not too long ago and think someone else who is just starting could benefit from hearing.
@@Wes-xk6hl really getting mad at someone giving good advice
I have more than 2k points and one model painted. I've only bought value box sets...
@@crazykev5 you can slapchop or do something artistic if painting isn't you thing... or maybe you have a friend that likes pizza 😉😁
I think the best faction to start is death guard because their durability is built in, their contagion ability is strong and easy to use, their models are forgiving to paint and they have a solid unit roster. You can play them hordy, elite or something in between. Their psychic powers are strong, their melee is great and because they aren't that hard to play, you can have a good experience in your first tournament. (You usually play atleast three games with your faction in a row so ease of play definitely is a factor here)
Best advice I can give is look into the lore and go with an army you connect with and think is cool. I didn’t do this and wound up unhappy with my first two armies. Also, DO NOT make a decision based on how “powerful” an army is. Power level will change and shift over the course of any edition … play what you find fun.
Play whatever you think look the coolest
It's literally this unfortunately. This and how they feel to play. Anything other than that is asking to waste tons of money. Doesn't matter if what u think is coolest is the worst thing in the game. Don't chase that carrot.
Now only if gw didn't play into this bs to steal money from people chasing meta and people like us wouldn't have to suffer
Huh?
I think it's important to consider if it can ally with something else gives you some models you can put into another army. Chaos are great you can add knights and daemons with out breaking your bonuses. Less codex creep and list fatigue as your possible roster of units and play style is much broader than something like Tau, Orks or Necrons
thank you. this reallly helped me decide my new army for warhammer. keep up the great videos :)
Recently started mustering models with the recruit edition starter set painting them as space wolves. Love the Lore, Aesthetic, Playstyle, and abilities they have. I knew going in painting might be somewhat difficult but I've managed alright so far. Other factions and chapters I'm fond of as well I just couldn't pass up the space vikings that turn into space werewolves. Plus a chapter master like Logan Grimnar is hard to pass up. You've got to be a special kind of badass to go up against the inquisition on multiple occasions and come out relatively unscathed with minimal repercussions. Also TTS has been extremely helpful since I moved, it allows me to not only play test lists and models before I buy but I've been able to play with friends in different states as well
chose my armies with what i like and find interesting, be that the figures or the lore.
atm i will soon be at 8 armies, 2 for AoS and 6 for 40k, the newest will be Iron warriors that i plan to use Vashtorr in when he comes out :)
so the armies are Tyranids (my first 40k army), Necrons, Iron Hands, Imperial Knights, DG and soon Iron Warriors.
for AoS it is Seraphons (from all the way back when they where called Lizardmen) and now also Gloomspite Gits (Squigs) :D
for me i look up both models and lore about them to see if they interest me, then look at rules to see what models i want. :)
ofc cool looking models is also nice, just to get and paint :D
This is great advice. I’ve decided to collect Space Marines. I was always drawn to them, mainly because I like sci-fi armies like Clone Troopers from Star Wars. They’re very reliable to use and noob friendly, plus you can make your own successor chapters. I plan to make an offshoot of the Ultramarines
I’m taking* Nids to a GT this weekend
Won my last Local GT back in November, will see how I get on
This video comes at exactly the right time. At the point of jumping back in after forever. Honestly, if they were available I'd probably just go pick up two boxes of the World Eaters starter box but that does not seem to be the case. Will this video prevent me from/encourage me to go buy an alternate box tomorrow morning instead?
Did it?
I’m in the situation where I’ve dug deep into the lore of everyone and love the look of every faction. I don’t know who to start collecting for my first army because for the past 6 years I’ve just come to love every single faction. Any advice would help me out a lot!
Just play TTS and switch your army every week
This is a comprehensive, very eloquent presentation, Trevy. If you were to ask me, I'd say picking an army is primarily about the lore. The backstory is such a massive presence in Warhammer, you gotta relate to a faction if you're gonna make them a part of your life. And since you're gonna spend perhaps 80% of the time painting and 20% of the time playing, you also need to pick an army that you think you can pull off artistically. I'm much better at painting Chaos than loyalist armies, so all my stuff is very sinister looking. I think my good guys are more "meh" .
My advice is to choose the army off aesthetics and lore first. Then consider the work involved (number of mini's, difficulty to paint), cost if that's important, and playstyle in the game. I would also do your best to "finish" an army. By finish I mean to clear your entire pile of shame for that army or hit a milestone where you can clear your mind of the need to work on that army.
I've been enjoying my Drukhari army for 3.5 years (finished) and Seraphon from AoS for 1 year. I'm a few months away from finishing the Seraphon army and my next project will be Ossiarch Bonereapers which I've just started building.
I’ve been stuck trying to pick between world eaters and death guard for a short while now.
Those are the 2 armies I play hahah. Can recommend both and both play "similar", since WE are 99% melee, and Dg are generally a lot more melee based than shooting. If you want too be able too play the game in more than just the charge and fight phase, go with DG. If all you care about is charging and slapping people with axe's and chain swords go WE 😂
Does your cat just sit there and watch you through the crack in your door?
Step 1: paint some squads yellow with checkerboard pauldrons
Step 2: convert model for FW character
Step 3: character is made legends
Step 4: cry
Step 5: get *really* mad
Step 6: pick Flesh Tearers
I would love to do this but i am poor :( maybe one day in the future
Even in this vid, DG can't get no appreciation!
I can't even commit to making 1 army
U missed the end of that sentence like 500 times.
"Try it" IN TTS
another consideration that helped me, as someone who has been in the hobby for a while and couldn't decide and army hoped for a whole edition. All the models didn't really stand out anymore as I'm used to what they look like so, I took influence from other games that I enjoyed like league of legends or magic the gathering. I enjoy twitch and shaco and blue black decks from MTG, so it was apparent that I just enjoyed messing with people. So harlequins was a good fit for me. Just another angle for people to think about.
Which army are you going to start? We all know nids are dead.
Chaos Knights 😍🤩
They just won a big tournament though
Are they really dead?
@@ashraven4990 no. I'm just memeing Travy has like 10 videos crying about the nurfs. My army cannot complete with the nids so I'm pretty happy.
I’m taking them this weekend
Anyone know what army that was at the time-stamp 5:03 ?
If it was the golden one it's Custodes
I’m new to the game.. as an OG StarCraft player I’m going Zerg all the way. Tyranids is the way to go !!! Good or bad, it’s just different from all the other factions
I started with Nids/GSC back in what. 2nd? Around 89-91 time frame. So back when zoans had legs and bunny warriors.
Picked up chaos (Night Lords and 1k sons) throughout the years.
Went Dark Eldar with the Pirates of Darkwater meets Hellraiser in SPAAACE during the revamp.
When 1k and GSC got their own new books o guess counts as picking up, th ough never dropped them.
Armies I played but dropped over the years.
Sisters of Battle, Orks and Dark Angels.
I just started Necrons. Always liked them but their old model range was uninspiring.
With the difficulty of getting Tomb Kings I've needed to scratch that itch and started to work on adding Necrons to my way too many armies.
And that's only for 40k, not including how many armies I have from Fantasy...
I would have also started Squats but...They're lore, model design and concept are utterly boring to me.
Which is sad as dwarfs are one of my Fantasy armies.
Anywho.
My suggestion is...pick the models you like the look of. Don't worry about competitive or you'll be stuck chasing your tail and making GW richer with whack a mole balance.
Take models you like and try to make them work. Some of my favorite experiences in game is playing underpowered models and factions and outplayed or figuring out how to win.
Mostly my Beastmen and Tomb Kings...
Also don't feel you need to chase the most up to date codex and rules. Play older editions if you like how an army plays previously.
So ya.
Short and sweet choose on if you like the models or lore/concept.
Painting? You'll get there. Practice, practice, practice.
Competitive? Get better at playing the game and ignore the math hammer arm chair generals.
Playing a game is vastly different than just running numbers rhat are bias as they generally only take considerations that would support what their argument is.
World Eaters go brrrrrrr!
This makes me really depressed, can't afford to collect anymore due to cancer and disability.
Man, fuck cancer. Hope you can get the care you need stranger
@@EliteDarkAssassin thanks stranger, appreciate it
Play what you like not what’s meta. It’s a crummy tactic that GW did this edition by outrageously buffing some factions just to make a buck and then nerf them later. I play marines and they were done dirty all edition. It sucks more that codex factions never got their supplements at all.
That's nothing new. They've been doing that for at least 15 years. One of the biggest frustrations for many players.
Yeah I came into the game late 8th and have been hearing about and it’s been nothing new. Still is crummy business tactics to take advantage of your customer base to do so.
@Jason completely. They also do the old Nintendo tactic of creating a need for products by hyping them up and then short supplying them so they sell out quickly. Makes people more likely to impuse buy when they find items in stock.
I really spent too much time in retail 🤣
I'm all about the new Tyranids. Hoping they drop a starter army & codex as soon as 10th comes out.
Wish granted.
Go orks. Paint em red, go faster
nice nose rudolf