An Over-Analysis of From Software Boss Design: Bloodborne
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Ever since I played Dark Souls, I've wanted to toss my opinions in the great all-consuming void that is Dark Souls Video Essays - and now it's time to do a video I've not seen before. An Analysis of every Bloodborne boss. That's right - EVERY Bloodborne Boss. Even the Chalice Dungeons.
This is the third part of a series going through all of FROM Software's bosses, analyzing what each of them attempt to do, how they attempt to do it, and how well they succeed (or how it is they fail).
0:00:00 - Introduction
0:01:48 - Cleric Beast
0:06:12 - Father Gascoigne
0:10:26 - Blood-Starved Beast
0:14:02 - Undead Giant (Depth 1)
0:16:07 - Merciless Watchers & Chieftain (Depth 1)
0:16:59 - Watchdog of the Old Lords (Depth 1)
0:18:51 - The Witches of Hemwick
0:20:47 - Vicar Amelia
0:23:51 - Beast-Possessed Soul (Depth 2)
0:25:01 - Keeper of the Old Lords (Depth 2)
0:26:15 - Pthumerian Descendent (Depth 2)
0:27:38 - Maneater Boar
0:28:25 - Undead Giant (Depth 2)
0:29:31 - Blood-Starved Beast (Depth 2)
0:31:23 - Darkbeast Paarl
0:33:07 - Shadows of Yharnam
0:35:36 - Rom, the Vacuous Spider
0:38:41 - The One Reborn
0:41:26 - Amygdala
0:44:47 - Brainsucker (Depth 3)
0:46:06 - Forgotten Madman & Escort
0:47:15 - Pthumerian Elder
0:48:42 - Merciless Watchers & Chieftain (Depth 3)
0:50:16 - Undead Giant (Depth 3)
0:52:37 - Rom, the Vacuous Spider (Depth 3)
0:55:41 - Bloodletting Beast
0:57:08 - Micolash, Host of the Nightmare
0:59:10 - Celestial Emissary
1:00:04 - Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos
1:03:30 - Martyr Logarius
1:05:49 - Beast-Possessed Soul (Depth 4)
1:06:42 - Blood-Starved Beast (Depth 4)
1:08:14 - Abhorrent Beast (Depth 4)
1:09:18 - Mergo's Wet Nurse
1:12:10 - Ludwig
1:16:52 - Living Failures
1:18:53 - Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower
1:22:23 - Laurence, the First Vicar
1:24:49 - Orphan of Kos
1:28:04 - Defiled Keeper of the Old Lords
1:29:26 - Defiled Watchdog of the Old Lords
1:30:48 - Defiled Amygdala
1:32:44 - Loran Silverbeast
1:33:39 - Abhorrent Beast (Depth 5)
1:34:39 - Loran Darkbeast
1:35:56 - Brainsucker (Depth 5)
1:36:53 - Celestial Emissary (Depth 5)
1:37:54 - Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos (Depth 5)
1:39:54 - Pthumerian Descendant (Depth 5)
1:41:21 - Headless Bloodletting Beast
1:42:49 - Yharnam, Pthumerian Queen
1:45:25 - Gehrman, The First Hunter
1:48:21 - Moon Presence
1:50:35 - Epilogue
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Obviously, the Madman lost his mind and his pants at the same time. It's a package deal- the mind goes, and so do his pants. They just evaporate along with his sanity.
Bloodborne: Prepare to Cry
Deepest lore.
Is this not common knowledge? My uncle experienced this irl. Went crazy &, pantsless all in one fluid motion.
Saying gassycoins is a tough boss is complete bullshit and you know it.
You can literally stunfuck him to death with heavy attacks.
"Pants are what separate us from the animals" --some star wars propaganda parody
Context with the Moon Presence is definitely the best part. It NEEDS its mind and body controlling powers to truly be a threat. The moment it realises it won't work on you, it becomes a fight against a creature that isn't attacking with rage and fury, but instead fear and desperation.
It knows it's vulnerable now and since it's probably never had to fight before, all it can do is frantically jump around and flail at you. Get the feeling that Gherman would have ripped it to shreds if he had the three cords as well.
That's a great point. It's definitely one of the biggest surprise movesets compared to the intro cutscene.
Laurence, THE most important figure in the lore being nothing more than a cleric beast is the point. The beautiful phase 2 violin contrasting with whatever is left of him crawling across the floor in his own lava vomit is amazing, you truly see how he has fallen from grace.
Exactly!
so glad someone said this. while the cleric beast is optionally the first boss, he's optionally one of the last ones (and definitely scaled to be such), and his beefed up moveset really makes the fight demand every bit of skill you've learned from the game. the lore is great, the music is great, and the fight is great--I really don't think the hitboxes are nearly as bad as people always complain about, and the second phase was a shocking and cool surprise.
This is cope. It’s a reskinned cleric beast because they ran out of dev time.
@@Sbrick521 didnt know you had insider info into Fromsoftware's development cycles.
Thank you for saying this!!! I've always felt like people are WAY too harsh on what's arguably a fantastic choice when it comes to lore
The Blood-Starved Beast does have build-up and environmental storytelling, it's just easy to miss. In the cathedral earlier in Old Yharnam, where the beast patients are making that droning chant noise before they notice you, there is another BSB strung up almost like a crucifix, and that's what the beasts are worshiping in that building. Presumably the placement of the one that we fight in a church implies that it is also an object of reverence for the lesser beasts. We also know that the people of Old Yharnam during the beasthood outbreak there were treated with antidote despite the fact that the beasthood is a curse transmitted by blood ministration, so the fact that these "most special" beasts in the area produce poison from their bodies (which the antidotes do treat) invites a ton of interesting questions.
Blood starved beast does have a story! Hunter Djura looks after the beasts in Old Yharnam, believing that there is Still a human inside them capable of remembering their past selves. Blood starved beast is one of them, locking itself away in a church far from any humans it is compelled to consume. It's only the hunters close proximity where its beast nature takes over, and it attempts to devour the player.
That's actually really sad. Imagine you could talk to it through the church doors
There is also a theory that the reason it's back is cut open is because it used it's own blood to feed the beasts of Old Yharnam
Im a simple person, I see a bloodborne analysis and i click
He just like me fr fr
I love how the S tier is *exclusively* hunters.
There are beasts. There are abominations. There are gods.
But *nothing* will ever really surpass (and I know this is cheesy) the indomitable human spirit !
Bloodborne's bosses are pretty incredible when you think about they were created directly after Dark Souls 1. The leap in quality is crazy. I'm aware DS2 came out in between these games but Miyazaki did not direct it. Bloodborne added many iconic fights and invented the multi-phase boss battle. Elden Ring players that started there have no idea.
I don't think that there's any studio that we've been able to so directly watch the improvement of. The number of ideas that evolve, they way the role of a boss in their games evolve - we've been watching them evolve from fights like the Penetrator to the knights of Elden Ring in barely 15 years, which is absolutely wild.
Its a shame the Bloodletting Beast is so...middle of the road, since his model design actually hints at him being the real Laurence in the present day because of his models skull being the exact same model that you touch after fighting and killing Vicar Amelia. Then Laurence in the Old Hunter DLC is supposed to be this middle ground of Lawrences transformation, anyways great video!! can't wait to see what else you create.
Just once I would like to see Fromsoft without being seemingly limited by scope/ time constraints. It seems like every game they leave something substantial either half baked, or on the cutting room floor. It’s just crazy how it doesn’t really negatively impact their games that much.
Bro it’s a CRIME you have double digit subscribers.
Within the first minute of watching I went to sub and assumed the count would be higher given the *chef kiss* quality.
Keep at it and I know you’ll be up there w the great lore-keepers!
Made it 3 digits now :)
Exact same thought process I went through. If the views/subs were hidden I'd just assume this was from an established long time souls channel with tens/hundreds of thousands of subs/views
Theres like a million people who make these snooze fest soul videos
I totally agree with his sub number. He isnt very good at these games and he didnt do much research on the lore.
I agree with everything you said about the cleric beast but one thing I do love about it is that Manus basically the last, most challenging boss of dark souls 1 shares a very similar design to the cleric beast. pretty much telling you through a design easter egg to get ready for this whole game to be on the same level as that dlc.
I feel like with moon presence, it fears you. it cant control you. you've killed other old gods, the music plays is your boss music. it's frantically trying to kill you like just another beast, because its true power wont work on you. its not S tier, but i feel its better than C. that context boosts it imo.
I think lots of frustrations you mention in this video are balanced out in Sekiro and outside of From Soft in Lies of P. Both have main bosses that are the actual bosses and non of them are easy. And then you habe „small bosses“, that feel outstanding compared to mobs, but are also clearly a step down from the main bosses.
Makes you realize they were still learning in Bloodborne, although it’s a masterpiece for sure.
Amygdala also takes significant damage when you hit the glowing forearms! It’s actually much safer to do so most of the time IMO rather than rushing in for the head, but the head takes more damage and has better stagger potential so I tend to focus on it anyways
Also, the weapon he's using has a vertical L2 attack!
My boi hitting us with another Analysis
Im glad to see that you included the Chalice Dungeon Bosses. There are actually quite a few good fights in them, but a lot of people ignore the fights because they find the dungeons to be tedious and boring.
I would also like to point out that during the Amygdala fights, you can attack the arms for ok damage... obviously not the arms that have been ripped off.
I can't believe you didn't mention Vicar Amelia's voice acting OR music! Along with all the other good points you made about her, her screams are chilling, and the music perfectly fits the horror of the fight. One of my absolute favourites!
I think the Loran Silverbeast is just there to establish the beastly electricity theme, being followed by an Abhorrent Beast and the Loran Darkbeast
I feel like the design of the Chalice did that - the lightning jumping around the floor and walls does a great job setting a ton. Silverbeast may technically cement it, but the area design carries enough weight that Abhorrent & Darkbeast's theme still fits.
omg i’ve watched SO MANY bloodborne analysis videos, it’s my favorite game to learn about bc playing it for me was impossible, and i loved this video! even if my next attempt to get past yarnham doesn’t succeed, i’ll feel much more equipped w this analysis under my belt…
so interesting and well made! i hope you get as much love as some of the other big souls channel, you totally deserve it
This video has given me so much inspiration for my dungeons and dragons campaign. Good bosses has been something I’ve really been trying to get right and this video has been very helpful/informative
These videos are remarkable for how quickly you seem to be making them. Well done!
I can respect your opinions, and I think there’s a lot that can (and should) be criticized with the reuse of bosses in the Chalice Dungeons. However the way you talk about Rom, Ebrietas, etc. as unique individuals that you already killed shows a certain ignorance of how the Great Ones and the Chalices actually work. And that’s fine, I get the impression that your grading system and opinions are focused far far more on gameplay and mechanics which is totally fair, but from an in universe lore perspective their inclusion is absolutely 100% justified and viable.
Absolutely agree with all the S rankings, though I’d personally place Maria as my favorite. Hard disagree on Lawrence criticisms. Apart from visually being a cleric beast I find him totally distinct and a fantastic fight. I’d grade Micolash a bit higher purely for atmosphere and that haunting, maddening music, but mechanically he really is tedious and insufferable.
Holy shit you’re on a roll with these videos. Keep up the amazing work
The big fire puppy actually takes less damage on the head until you break it. It's easier to break the limbs and use the stagger to break the head. Once the head is broken it takes a lot more damage. The real trick is just to not lock on and run and roll around it, makes for a way more fun fight imo
I'll give it a shot the next time I loop around to it!
This video confirms my theory: people dunk on elden ring reusing bosses and its asset reuse just to he contrarian and bait clicks. I see almost no video essays call out the chalice boss asset reuse.
Brilliant video, on my favorite souls game.
I believe in Equal Opportunity dunking on reusing unique enemies.
I'm coming for you, Godefroy. You cannot hide.
I suppose it could also just be the fact that some of the reused assets in Elden Ring “kind of” have a reason to be discovered, usually on accident while exploring so even casuals will find them by chance, or drop an interesting gimmick weapon/reward
Whereas in Bloodborne you have to go out of your way to do chalice dungeons, figure out which materials you need to farm to get the next layer, and on top of that mald through multiple layers with no real useful rewards for a trophy.
Consequently also probably why not many have platinumed Bloodborne
Regardless
Hats off to you my fellow hunters
@@idrawalot8000 well said
Crazy to me how far some people will go out of their way to justify bad boss designs, us From fans are pretty good at this.
Very good list, different to other people's but I agree with much of these. To me I'd say Ludwig is the only S tier fight, but that's probably not fair, it should be in an S+ tier since no other fight comes even close.
Excellent video, very observant analysis in terms of gameplay design. Great stuff, keep it coming.
Great video my man can't wait to see how far u can go brother!!
The chalice dungeons were a nice idea in theory. The main problem is that they fucking suck ass
You deserve way more than 41 subscribers! Keep it up mate, amazing work :D
this is awesome. Wasnt aware of a bunch of boss behaviors. Well done mate.
You didn't mention how the Moon Presence also has an attack that prevents you from using blood vials for about 60 seconds. When combined with the 1hp attack it's a more threatening fight, although I guess it's worth mentioning that combo doesn't happen consistently. Loved the video, Ludwig is also my favorite fight.
Keep it up man, this is high quality content!
Ty for analyzing the chalice dungeon bosses! 🥰🙏
Mad mad Noah Caldwell Gervais vibes here. Love it. Instant sub.
How do you have only a few subscribers this is incredible!! Kudos ✨
Really, really good audio mixing on this. I'm very impressed.
Great job buddy. I love the content
What an awesome video. You deserve thousands of subs
(23:51) Now I don’t know if I misinterpreted what you said but the beast-possessed soul found at the bottom of the healing church workshop also uses pyromancy like the boss variant! Also something about the Beast-possessed soul I don’t know until someone mentioned it was that if it’s grab attacks connects, it will gnaw on the player and afterwards will become buffed, which you can see because it’s eyes will glow red. Anyways great video! Just wanted to mention these things!
Loved the video! On the part about Rom, I do agree with everything you said. However, as far as I know, her reuse is justified because theorized that the chalice dungeons exist outside of the flow of time. Queen Yharnam's fight is evidence of this, as she is pregnant in the chalice dungeon, but not in the main game.
Celestial Emissary and Ebrietas is also evidence of this.
You kill them to get the Isz chalice and in that very same chalice you fight Celestial Emissary and Ebrietas again
It's a good point lore wise, but it lends the question - is Rom in the chalice as a step to introduce that lore component, or is the lore component there as an explanation to reuse Rom, Ebrietas, and the Emissary?
That said, I hadn't noticed that about Yharnam - that is a super cool detail.
@TheAkasharose The reason for why that lore exists could be just to excuse the reuse of the fights, but it does make sense, at least (in my opinion). With the exception of the Amygdala (which rhere are several of anyway), all reused great ones have a direct connection to Ebrietas in some way, or is Ebrietas herself. Ebi was found in the chalice dungeon in the first place. Rom ascended to greathood likely with the help of Ebrietas' blood. There's a petrified Rom in the Altar of Despair in Ebrietas' main-game boss room. We know the Altar of Despair has some time shenanigans going on since it's used to reverse Annalise's pulpification at the end of Alfred's questline. We also know that the chalice dungeons don't generally follow the same laws as the waking world does. It doesn't make tge reuse any less jarring, but it does open up some interesting talking points about how the powers of the great ones work.
At least the reuse is better justified than Godefroy lol
So glad to have stumbled upon this video and your channel! Listening to you has been a thoroughly relaxing and interesting experience. Subscribed, I'm going to dive into your other videos now and am looking forward to your future analysis as well! Bloodborne will always hold a special place in my heart, even though I prefer fantasy settings, and I almost feel like going back to playing it, despite bosses in and of themselves being my least liked aspect of these games in contrast to discovery, lore, npcs and gameplay, all of which I adore.
OH, and for me, the first boss I fought was Gascoigne, who I believed to be the first of this game period, and he was so difficult, every time I replay the game, even if I've learned a lot since then, the thought of facing him always fills me with dread. I also beat Lady Maria second try the last time, but in my head they are both formidable opponents.
Glad to hear you like the video!
And yeah - the atmosphere that Gascoigne brings to Bloodborne is incredible. Easily one of the best introductory bosses in any game. And I think that feeling of Dread is one of my favorite parts of Bloodborne - maybe it's because it's the FROM Soft game I'm probably the worst at - but so many bosses still make me terrified to fight them again in the best way.
You sir, earned a subscriber. Ane many more to come!
2 minutes in i thought to myself "dude i gotta see his version of this to dark souls 3" but you haven't uploaded it yet, how dare you? Subscribed and hyped as fuck, gonna watch the whole series, tysm for the great content
My hope is to post them every other week on Sundays! One week I do my Pathfinder 2e Podcast, other one I do one of these! I have DS3 ready and just record Sekiro, with Demon's Souls scripted out. Elden Ring is probably going to have a longer gap, but I'm hoping to have the remainder series done by the end of May!
Consider me a new fan mate. Looking forewarda
Oh Boi do I have news for you
There was not a clip of saying "no" to Ludwig after talking about it in the video.
I just went to go watch it. That's so sad :'(
Watching you fight some bosses have me gritting my teeth, I wanna scream "let me do it!" and take the controller.
It hurt watching myself do some of these fights over and over again with some fights in editing. Nothing like watching yourself and thinking 'Wow, I absolutely deserved to die there'.
@@TheAkasharose wish I could relate. Anyway, good video. I found that all the Hunter fights (Father Gascoigne, Gehrman, the First Hunter, Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower) to be the best, most exhilarating fights in the game.
I think another major feather in the insane cap of Gascogne’s design is that he begins to break established rules in phase 2. He starts to slide in blunderbuss shots where there should be gaps and actively switches in an instant between the trick mode of the axe to dodge and fire and shows that he’s something you’re not. You’re bound to the rules of your move set and need to work in and around the gaps your move set leaves while Gascogne rips the gaps apart and starts to just slam against you like a beast which he’ll soon become. He’s an amazingly designed boss and it’s insane he’s essentially the tutorial of bloodborne especially since I’d fully expect him to act as this game’s Solaire with him even being a special summon to fight against the cleric beast
Nice video, I always love Bloodborne content. Even though it always sends a shiver down my spine when someone pronounces the word 'Vicar' wrong. 😅
I personally would rate Darkbeast Paarl and One Reborn an A tier, as they allow me to do my most favorite thing in the game ever, breaking bones. Everytime I beat Blood Starved Beast I immediately rush to the secret route straight to the first Snatcher to get kidnapped and go to Darkbeast Paarl, all so I could get that sweet satisfying limb breaking action. I love just breaking each of his limbs as he's about to get up. Its so satisfying.
Amygdala can also be damaged well via hitting its arms- thought not the ripped off ones in the third phase.
Parroting what everyone else has said, holy crap this is such great production quality for someone with no subscribers. Keep up this quality and you’ll have a ton soon. Once you get a video to hit the algorithm you’ll blow up!
I beat bloodborne recently for the first time and i cant stop thinking about it, i always enjoy these long analysis for souls games and you definitely need more subs than this
You do know the emblem you can buy for 10k is optional since a different path opens up as a result of killing blood starved, and that path loops around to connect you to the rest of the church.
Amazing video, enjoying it so much so far, but I have to comment on the watchdog analysis, as you said that his weak spot is his head and you stood in front of his head trying to hit it but kept getting hit by the flames. He’s a beast boss, which means his legs are the weak spot, and gets staggered when you break his legs, and the best position to be in is to either of the sides where you can choose which leg to hit since he’s built like a rectangle. It’s a pretty cool boss but not great
And rippp I loved the cleric beast but I can see why you gave it such a low grade haha
"Convinced to buy a Playstation 4 by the blood." 😂😂😂😂😂 What a line, what an intro!
Unfortunately I couldn't and still can't afford a PS. Bloodborn on PC when, person who is responsible for that desicion? I finally wanna play Bloodborne too.
Aren’t PC’s more expensive than a 11 year old console?
@@DionPanday Maybe. But they last longer and don't have generations like the PS. You can play stuff on PC no matter when it came out. One can maybe play the old stuff on the new PS (is that even correct?) But you can't play most of the new stuff on the old consoles, if I am not mistaken. Lastly - most people have a PC anyways. It's much easier and cheaper to buy a PC you can also play games on for years and years if you buy one anyways, than having to keep updating your console. And I don't think that the PS5 is 11 years old. The first PS may be, but again - console generations.
@@AiorosSagittarius im pretty sure people who bought a pc even 10 years ago can’t play games like Cyberpunk or Elden ring. And that’s why consoles exist, because of the exclusives. You can either keep asking for a PC port wich will never happen as Miyazaki himself said or just buy a cheap used ps4 and play it that way.
@@DionPanday A well maintained PC can last years. And I don't think I can play the Demon's Souls remake on PS4. Or the new Final Fantasy 7, if I were fan. Let's agree that it is impossible or very difficult for many people to have both at the same time. I'm growing tired of this discussion.
@@AiorosSagittarius When did demons souls get into this discussion? If you want to play that you should buy the original demons souls wich is superior in every way except for graphics. They’re called exclusives for a reason. And no there are minimum pc requirements for certain games so if you spend 1k now you might have to spend an additional 500 in a few years just to be up to date.
New video, woo Hoo!!!!
I just realized how much of a missed opportunity it was to not give us Logarius's weapons. Imagine the scythe doubling as a catalyst when transformed that scales with arc and dex or something. Using quicksilver bullets to shoot the spells. That would be badass
Dying to the One Reborn 7 times made me delve into the Chalice Dungeons, I had so much fun with those that when I finished, I breezed through everything else in the game, it got that easy
Chalice loot is no joke
Pthumerian Descendant: "It's hard to point out anything he did wrong."
His parry frames make no damn sense! I've lost count of the number of times I've managed to shoot him right in the middle of that lightning-fast backhand swing, and he doesn't even flinch let alone get parried like he's supposed to. Other times I've shot him while he was running around and not even attacking at all, and he got knocked to his knees. Not to mention how annoyingly cheap it is to get stun-locked to death if he manages to catch you in a combo. Mash that circle button all you want, you're not getting out!
Don't lock on to large-sized beast enemies to get rid off camera issues and to enjoy limbbreak system at its best
amazing video, like honestly love the level of detail, my one pet peeve is how you pronounced vicar, the r is silent, more like vic-uh
No it isn’t
There's a pretty consistent way of avoiding the Shadows of Yharnam's Snake Summoning. First focus completely on the Katana Guy. Once he's dead you kill the Pyro-Katana guy. Then you kill the pyro guy because he got the least health of the three. With him it's very important to stay up close to him and Interrupt pretty much everything he's doing, that way he can't summon the snakes. Also important to note, if you do it that way, the pyro guy only starts summoning once the others are dead.
Great video! Just... in your mind, how does Pth make an "N" sound?
I... I don't know. It just always did, and now I'm questioning how I got that while playing the first game.
I'm gonna go stare at a mirror and wonder what's happening in my brain.
@@TheAkasharoseI'm so sorry lmfao
An arena shaped like a cage or ring would suit cleric beast better. Even if it was less area than the bridge.
100% - that Bridge takes so much away from the Cleric Beast it's almost sad. I wish the Cleric Beast showed up in the Chalices over some of the other bosses, just so I could fight it in those circular rooms.
just so you know for future playthroughs, if you stand in front of them you can dodge toward the watchdog's bite attacks to get to their side for a free couple hits. you can get limb breaks on them, so even though the damage is less on their sides it's still worth it
Great work on this! I finally posted MY Bloodborne boss review a few days ago and I love seeing what other small channels have to say! Can’t wait to see more from you!
Loved the video but don't you dare disrespect the threaded cane again.
Ludwig is still MY FAVOURITE BOSS FIGHT OF ALL TIME
I really wish we had gotten more information and time spent on Loran. There’s potential there, I can FEEL it!
Such a short video! What a pity XD I look forward to seeing how this small measly little tiny morsel is!
Brevity is my greatest quality.
@@TheAkasharose I just finished the video a couple hours ago, and that was a very great showcase and examination of BB'S bosses! My 1st video I've seen of yours. I will have to check out some of your others for sure. Thanks for sharing.
Not many like the Bloodstarved Beast, it's often neglected in these discussions. Great analysis
The cleric beast slams have a small ground wave attached that is a small multiplier when he clips you thats why it seems he doesnt do a lot pf damage sometimes because of your spacing
Ah hell yeah more long form Souls content 🎉 Keep up the good work man, this video was great! Can't wait for Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring videos
i wonder how many hour plus long videos ill watch about bloodborne until i play it
Lady Maria is my personal favorite from Bloodborne due to the excellent character reveal backed by the story buildup, fantastic music and original phase changes. It's just a shame she's so easy to parry and she needs way more HP, something like Orphan of Kos' massive health pool.
I do think that there is a bit of characterization that also comes from Maria being a Glass Cannon - it adds to that feeling of equal footing, feeling like you're fighting a Hunter who's just more skilled then you.
Bsb probably has my favorite theme in the entire game, it's so stressful and unnerving!
Damn just begun the vid and Cleric Beast just got done dirty 😭
I actually like the watchdog, fights with it are tense, slapping it's knees can break them and it will stagger which is relatable. It's flame aoe slashes are an opportunity to back up and heal or buff. Wearing the charred hunter set will heavily reduce the damage it deals (the gear's stats do matter, this is more than just fashion souls). Stand in front of it and it will charge forth with very effing lethal, one time it charged just to get away from me since I was beating it's side/rear/flank so hard it couldn't do anything.
The blood starved beast is scary until you gain insight and learn that all you gotta do is parry him the whole fight
See, all you've got to do there is be like me and suck at parrying the Blood-Starved Beast. Then it's always scary!
32:00 You can actually reach Paarl and the unseen village right after defeating the Blood-Starved Beast. I usually do this as the twin-shards you can find in the area let you upgrade a weapon to +6 before you fight Ameilia.
to me, lady maria is still the best fromsoft boss to date. Friede and Malenia would recapture _some_ of what made her so great but she remains in a league of her own as far as I'm concerned.
Don't get me wrong, I really like Ludwig, but he just didn't resonate with me the way he seems to with a lot of other people.
Maybe it's that, by either luck or a quirk of my build, Ludwig actually only took me a handful of attempts on my first playthrough, so I never really had to learn his moveset properly the way I did with Maria, who stonewalled me for _dozens_ of attempts before I managed to take her down.
I first tried both of them but i agree ludwig while one of my favorite just doesn't hit the same as maria and gherman. And orphan is a level of difficulty i really enjoyed.
My favorite part of amygdalas fight are the weakpoints arms and head make it such a rewarding fight when you risk hitting its weapons lol.
Also lil art note his arms are scratched to hell and like hes been scratching them out of crazy urge and it draws attention to to smack em when the legs dont work
I love bloody crow so much, he really seems like the only truthfully imposing npc with presence understandable ranking tho
Good video but i have one problem
Rom is no great one she drops kin coldblood and not great one cold blood
Call me crazy but Defiled Watchdog is an easy S for me. Nonetheless, love the video! Part of the fun of these games is hearing how everyone has different experiences.
53:02 rom is just a man made old one. The only true old one bosses are amygdala, ebritas, moon presence, orphan of kos. You actually see another rom corpse in ebritas battle area
I thought they were called the Great Ones?
Man, I will never forget the feeling of playing the DLC. Beating Ludwig on my second try, and Maria and Orphan on my first tries. The pure adrenaline and emotions of the fights, I dare say it's From's best dlc.
I prefer ringed City, but Old Hunters is a heavy contender for the title - and both are among the best DLC ever made for games in general.
Someone probably said it already, but your comment about the damage variance you take during the Cleric Beast fight depends on counter-damage. Bloodborne has a mechanic where your character will take 2 to 3 times the damage if they get hit while dodging, attacking, or running. That's why it seems off. But for me, overall your analysis was solid. ☺️
How you gonna talk about my boy "watchdog of the old lords" like that.
I'm just funnin around but seriously, I don't know why but I really enjoy the fight. I remember how damn long it took me to beat the one in the FRC dungeon. But for me it was a lot of fun to learn his moveset and finally beat him.
Finally, someone who hates Laurence as much as I do. It's not even that it's hard, it's that it's boring! I don't mind hard bosses as long as they are hard in some exciting way, but a boss I have literally already fought with new particle effects and an extra helping of bullshit is NOT exciting. Not even a little bit.
If you're going to make a boring boss, and least stop it from ever one shotting me.
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This is not an intended mechanic , and gives the impression you just rushed the whole game to make this video.
Ok so there is a kinda lore reason why Rom is in the dungeon tho I have a issue. The Rom we first fought is Rom’s like, astral form. All the great ones have two forms. The one in the dungeon is her actual body while the one in the lake isn’t. The one in the lake can’t actually die unlike the one in the dungeon. I do wish the dungeon one was different and made that aspect of the lore more obvious
Okay, that response makes a bit more sense - and the ethereal of the nature of the lake makes that feel a bit better.
I still think the rematch takes a lot away from the fight. That grey and constrained arena just drains so much of the magic from that first encounter.
@@TheAkasharose I agree. I wish they were different showing that one is physical and the other isnt
Vicar is pronounced VIH-kur. Sorry was driving me crazy.
I found that during editing - felt so dumb.
I'm starting to record Sekiro today... and oh boy I am not excited for how bad some of those pronunciations are probably going to end up.
Watching you struggle with the cleric beast was painful.
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Weird, In my playthrough, there were 5 living failures in the arena at the same time.
If I may give some criticism. The music is a bit loud overall. It sometimes overtakes your voice in terms of volume. I think if you had much softer music, this could be a good video to listen to in the background of something else.
I just wanted to throw this out there because I see a lot of potential in your channel and I want to see it grow. (Consider me subscribed btw)
Always appreciate the constructive criticism! I've gotten this note a couple of times, so I'm definitely trying to find that right balance level as I edit the next vids together.
@@TheAkasharosethas perfectly understandable. Take your time.
I would suggest making it loud enough to just barely drown out any moments of silence.
I know I'm late to the party here and I did this the first boss you talk about but I'd like to get it out of the way now cleric beast doing extra damage randomly thing is because there's a counter hit damage mechanic in bloodborne
I was in fact convinced to buy a ps4 just by the blood. Pretty much just a Bloodborne machine now
Maria is my favorite but yeah I can’t argue with your points on Ludwig. In my opinion, Ludwig, orphan, Maria are some of the best FROM has ever given us.
Not far into the video as I write this comment, but the reason you take so much more damage on some attacks in the Cleric Beast fight is due to the dodge timing. If you dodge and get hit during the start up or wind down frames of the dodge, you take something like double damage from the attack that hits you. The same applies if you get hit while jumping.
Edit: watching your Watchdog fight was sort of painful. Hearing you complain about it not being "fun" while watching you dodge *away* form all of its attacks was a bit wild to see. You get way more consistent openings to hit the head if you just dodge towards the thing rather than away.
Edit 2: I was surprised watching the Amygdala fight when you said "you have to hit its head" and didn't mention anything about how much damage the Amygdala's arms take. Breaking the Amygdala's arms in incredibly effective. It was also strange to hear you reference "counter-hits" later in the video when you were confused about the damage you were taking in the Cleric Beast fight.
There seems a be a general echoing that I've been doing Watchdog wrong - I didn't realize that the legs breaking is what caused the head to take more damage, and my struggle to avoid his bite to his side meant I felt like I needed to stay away from it. I've played a lot of the base game at BL4, but never the Chalice dungeons - and it's amazing how many of the small mechanics I've missed, even in five or six playthroughs. I feel I've always hit the first Watchdog so early that I just R1 Spammed and never learned the fight, which meant when the boss could one shot me, I would stay away rather than ever taking advantages of weaknesses he does have that I just never learned, even after doing the Chalices four times at this point.