I Tested More Unique MTB & Outdoor Products
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- These mountain bike products aren't the ones you would typically find on cycling channels, although one did apparently win an award. Whether it's for your bike, your shop, or for something loosely related to bicycles in general, we've got you covered.
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6:00 Hover X1 Flying Camera amzn.to/4c2imJq
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Seth, electrical heat shrink over those zipper pulls will fix a lot of the rattling you're hearing
I cut the pulls off my bags and swap them with paracord.
As above, shrink heat wrap, works a treat
Really easy to find cord pulls with plastic tabs at camping stores or even cheaper online at Amazon (you'll get a dozen for 5 bucks or so)
Adhesive lined heat shrink for permanence!
Most of the rattling on zippers comes from the metal tab hitting on the loop. You’d need to jam something in between those two pieces to get good result or replace the tab with strings that you can get at pretty much every outdoor store.
@ Seth , I noticed the Milkit bottle was the .75l model. The company states for mtb use the 1 litre bottle. I have the 1l model seats mtb tyres every time, never fails. As you know volume is key 😉
I feel Seth, I tried this one (.75) for Road and MTB tires and had no luck.
I was about to make a similar comment. The volume isn't big in that one.
I was kind of thinking this looked more like a road product
The Schwalbe Tire Booster (licensed Air Shot) is around 1.1 liters of volume, with the same 11 bar / 160 psi may pressure. And has only failed me for really stubborn downhill tires with wire bead (which normally aren't even classified as tubeless, they took some additional "convincing")
What removing valve core? couldn't tell if Seth did that. removing the valve core gets more volume
Thanks for the feature Seth, happy to be included 🤘🏼
be thankful he didnt say he was gonna "throw that piece of..... away" like he did with the not-a-drone
I stopped watching crankworx innsbruck slopestyle for this.
You didn't miss anything at the end
@@Jessev741 I mean Godziek won, that was different
Same
@@R3ddyyg well ya, but they would have seen that part!!
same 😂
Seth, about the air canister for seating tubeless tires. I made one from an old kitchen fire extinguisher, a tubeless valve and a replacement hose and chuck for a floor pump. It is twice the volume of the water bottle you tested, so it blasts enough air in to seat the tire and it cost me $10 for the valve and $4 for the pump hose and chuck. Add $1 for the hose clamp I used to attach the new hose to the extinguisher hose. The extinguisher already has a trigger valve to release the pressure explosively. It is built to do that. If you have to replace a home fire extinguisher because it is expired, just clean it and convert it to a useful tool.
You should make a video on it! :)
You sir are a genius, I’d love to see a pic of this contraption, would prolly win the GMBN hacks and bodges!
Options to reduce zipper pull rattel, put a layer of electrical tape on your zipper pulls or tie a knot of paracord to the end of the zipper pull. Both will act as bumpers so you don't have metal on metal clanking.
I've done this for hunting backpacks and it works well to cut down that rattle
Plastidip
This! But self amalgamating tape will form a nice rubbery layer too, great stuff
Wrapping them in paracord or breaking the metal zip pulls off and replacing with paracord loops would be nicer. Unless you can get very high end electrical tape, and even then you won't find out whether it's good enough until it's too late, it'll wear through and leave sticky residue on everything after a few hundred miles.
I'd go for a bit of heat shrink rather than electrical tape. the tape will get all gross and sticky, then all hard and fall off.
I would NEVER use that milkit thing as a water bottle. Who knows what is in the lubricant used for foor pumps, it wouldn't surprise me if some cheaper ones even use a little bit of lead.
Natural selection
The funny thing is that a Milk-it Booster is like $65 on sale. Meanwhile, a Milwaukee M12 portable pump with battery and charger can be found on sale for less than $99. I can easily mount any stubborn tubeless tire with the Milwaukee with almost no effort, just remove the valve core and put on the little attachment for inflating pool toys. It is also capable of pumping up car tires, any sort of ball, and inflatable pool toys. It's also super compact, taking up less vertical space than the otherwise useless "Blaster".
Do you actually use it to fit tb tyres or are you assume it works?
@@sorenludwig3978I have used them. They work most.of the time. Occasionally a stubborn tire needs a boost of air.
$99 for the bare tool.
Try adding an 18v Milwaukee battery plus an 18v charger to that equation.
It does work pretty well though and can usually seat a bead.
I dont understand the bike industries aversion to air compressors. A small pancake compressor can be had cheap. It feels like an elitest bike thing. The resto fo the world uses compressors to fill all tires. Why cant we join the team?
@@jeffer9499 minimalist apartment dwellers who like to keep a mobile life style and not be tied down to a physical house with a garage in suburbia. Thats who would prefer something like an air shot. I think it makes a lot of sense for them, and while I was one of them for years, I always got great results from a similar product.
It's also handy on a road trip to be able to mount your own tubeless tire if necessary.
Giving the lubricants used in pumps, should you be drinking water out of the same thing? OR do you think that isn't an issue in any way?
That's what I thought as well.
The air that comes out of my pumps smells quite badly (some chemical smell) . I don't want whatever causes that smell to come in contact with my drinking water.
Well this is a place i didnt expect to see to 😅
Merely a consolation prize for when you discover its uselessness as a bead seater.
Can't you wash the water bottle after pumping filthy air into it?
Imagine forgetting some water in there and then pressurising to 160 PSI
Going to get my first bike today because of you really love the vids, keep up the great work
8:50 As with many things in life: "The easier it is to use, the more likely you will use it"
I used to seldom play sim racing games or VR because of the faff of getting them out, setting them up, only for a whim to play an hour or 2. Getting a dedicated sim rig makes me use it a lot more as it's there and ready to go at a moments notice.
This drone might not be the best footage quality but the ease of use means you'll have way more amazing shots with it than a $1000 drone that takes 30 mins to set up...
I've had an Airshot inflator for a few years and think it has a few advantage over the product shown here. First, it can screw onto the valve, giving you a better seal (better than what Seth shows here). Second, the pump can stay attached to the inflator, so you an add more air as you like once you've release the inflator. I've seated a number of tires so far with the Airshot, and I really like it and would recommend.
6:17 "This is not a drone" also: "I still call it a drone." Love it!!
Ooh I really like how slick that accessory mount tool kit is!
You're supposed to add water, not wooder :)
A bicycle bag brand I highly recommend that's affordable is Tourbon - they're like half the price of most of the big names, they make a TON of different bags for different mounting styles, they look nice - a lot have a very pleasant city/retro look and they're insanely durable, with real canvas, waxed canvas, real leather and good quality nylon on some. I've been wailing on a pair of nylon saddlebags on my E bike for over a year, through a seattle winter and I haven't even felt the need to silicone spray or sno seal or wax them.
Highly recommend them as a budget brand to look at for people who need luggage and don't need or like the ugly black/hi vis aesthetic but still want it very functional.
Love you seth. Your goal of getting people into mountain biking is working. My nephew and I have bought helmets tools and I got a new bike. We've had 4 amazing weekends going out into nature and exploring. Thank you for my new healthy happy hobby.
To easily make the tubeless tire sit on the rims. Once the tire is in place, spray the sidewall (both sides) first with a mixture of soap and water. Then just pump it normally. Works for me every single time
I absolutely love that you took the attention to detail to have the jingling of the zippers in the shots with the “drone” camera.
4:50 was the cutest thing ive ever seen! thanks for the cool product im gonna have to get one of those axles
Happy Father's Day to you!! Keep being involved in your kiddos lives!
I got a bike hack for you. Put electrical shrink tube around the zipper pulls to quiet them down.
I've been using an Airshot in my van for like 5 years and it works perfectly for all the stubborn tires that I can't do with a floor pump. The Airshot's locking design seems to be much better, you thread it directly where the valve core was and release the air only once it's secure. Additionally you can leave the floor pump on, so for truly nightmare tires you can release the air the keep pumping for non-stop airflow.
When I had my nightmare stan's conversion tubeless kit airshot was the only thing that worked 👍
I just made the EXACT same comment before I saw yours'
Never tried using something flammable like they do on car tyres?
I've been looking at those Crankbros tools. Thanks for reviewing them, they look super cool.
i love compressed towel tablets!
Great for travel use in a bind
The Hover X1 like a little dystopian guardian angel!
That drone really made me think "damn the future really is now"
Looks straight up of a 90's futuristic movie
Yeah, the video quality as well unfortunately. 😄
But it's getting there.
Well, wait until you see the specs. Can't keep up with an eBike, not even the european 25km/h version. Max. flight height 15m. Max. 28km/h wind speed and stabilization is not guaranteed. And can't be controlled with gestures.
Awesome idea, very very limited usability for a ridiculous price. Very unfortunate, I'd sell my Mini 3 Pro for a decent flying camera...
@@Bouncy8864
Obviously it's one of the first of it's kind, like with anything you should never be a first adopter.
But just the concept of a camera that flies and follows you automatically, that knows to land in your hand and etc feels futuristic to me, imagine telling people that even 20 years ago.
Coming from the freak bike fleet video:
For the unicycle, in order to free mount the bike try stepping on the pedal so the crank moves in a forward stroke and then put your other foot on as fast as you can.
The Robert Axle Project is amazing. axles for trainers, trailers, or just replacements in every size imaginable.
Ive used a Robert Axle on my high end road back to haul my 90lb dog around for years. Works great. Even when Im not using the trailer I just leave the Robert Axle on. Just take note of the weight limit on your wheels. Had an issue with my carbon rims not being rated for the extra weight and basically ripped apart a hub. Not the axles fault tho. They also have an index of about every bike on the market so you get the right one.
Thank you so much for the thru axle replacement for bike trailers
Sounds like they just made the strongest water bottle ever. Probably way more durable considering it has to be able to contain 160 PSI without exploding.
To me, it serms they took an existing water bottle design and only designed the new "cap" with the valves. Then they just send you the normal cap because the manufacturer of the bottle is including it in the deal
I just use a floor pump and grunt a bit when going tubeless. Good to see these sort of products being shown off as they're much more portable and cheaper than using a compressor.
Oh a Berm Peak Express with Seth video........stopping everything to watch............Great video! I love the testing videos to show you things you might not ever know about if not for Seth and Berm Peak videos! Awesome!
I find that when trying to seat a tire bead, it helps to put a strap on the tread, which keeps the rubber expanding easier where you want it at the bead. Done this with motorcycle tires for years, especially when changing out tires on trips in the front of a hotel. Makes smaller pumps more useful in that regard.
For the rattling zippers, maybe try covering the zipper tags with shrink tubing?
Old 2kg fire extinguisher, auto valve, small fitting from 1/4' to 6mm, 60cm of PVC pipe. Pumped to 6-7 Bars works flawesly every single time.
New to this channel and the sport. Love the content, informative, and entertaining. I am looking forward to buying my first mtb and trail riding. 😊
Seth we absolutely love all of your contents and we really do appreciate your effort for making our days better with your videos
On the subject of camping/hiking stuff. Take a water filter on long rides! Out in the country in high heat? Don't wanna carry more than 1 or 2l of water? Take a 50g water filter and fill up from a river. Just requires a tiny bit of planning.
On 2hr+ rides I always take my £30 sawyer water filter, fill up after that long hill.
Thanks muchly for showing the axle will be using one for a bike build
The robert axle project is great. They make axles for just about any bike or fork so you can use an old man mountain rack on basically any bike. OMM also ups the load capacity if you are using an axle instead of normal rack mounts.
2:53 seth just flpped us all
Yes he did! He was pissed at that milk it bottle.
again at 5:37 hes mad
I was just gonna make this same comment 😂
@@LaidBackGolf and again at 14:45
Great review. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Crank Bros makes a floor pump that switches between high pressure mode (like a normal pump) and high volume. The high volume setting makes it super easy to seat tubeless tires. I actually own an air compressor but I haven't even bothered to use it since I got the Crank Bros floor pump.
I don't know how they construct that air bottle, but I don't think I'd try putting 160psi into a regular water bottle.
longtime lurker here, i actually use the milkit booster (exclusively for gravel- and road bikes tho). it works realy well for me because i don´t own a compressor and i can take it with me on a trip. another good milkit product is their suringe to fill the milk directly thourgh the valvestem.
Been carrying the compressed towels for over a year now. Give them out too. You can see one I gave to Macky in Syd and Macky's Continental Divide ride about 6 months ago. First experienced them in an Asian restaurant I used to work for. They are awesome! :)
I am starting to feel a bit lucky to seat every tubeless tire pretty much first try with a 30€ floor pump since 4 years now (Maxxis, Conti, Schwalbe, Pirelli) :D
This is an awesome video seth thanks for the hard work to make such good content.
For your bag zipper noise, put some electrical heat shrink tube on. Stops the noise and provide a grippy surface to grab
A place I used to work at had a promo item that was a beach towel pressed into a small puck... It was meant to be dunked in water at the beach, it would pop out and you could leave it out to dry while you went swimming...
The building we were at had a roofing issue and the roofers were working on it but they goofed, had to call it quits for the day and left the sketchy roof on it's own for that nights monsoon-level thunderstorm!! When I got to work the next morning, word got out that the IT company on the 2nd floor had suffered water damage, so I ran to the warehouse and was relieved to find both open crates intact with a massive puddle of water next to them... We were litterally inches away from towel apocalypse in the warehouse!!!
As a person who play football this lil drone camera is so perfect!! Must have
Man, yesterday i got injured riding a DIY track and your video saved me from boredom,Thank you Seth.
The camera drone gaslighting you when it runs into things is hilarious 😂
I use (big) plastic clothing pegs to seat my tires, just put them on the opposite side of the valve (if the tire is big enough you can form an M to reduce volume), then take a normal floor pump and pump as fast as you can, after 10 pumps the clothing pegs explode (you can gather and fix them later) and the tire seats. Only tried this 3 times, but worked every time.
You should try the granite stash tool and/or ratchet. Far quicker access as it's in the steerer with a little cap you twist. And unlike the one up edc, it comes with a headlock setup so you just have to remove the start nut. I love mine and I have their crank mounted plug kit too
@14:53 is the best part of the video. Saving the best for last. Haha!
The tyre inflator doesn't look very impressive. I bought a floor pump which has a pressure chamber on it for about 30-40 quid. So about 20-30 quid cheaper than the bottle with an adapter. The advantage of the pump is that I can pre-load it with pressure to inflate and seat the tyre, and if it needs extra I can just add a few more pumps to get it to pop into place.
I would really love to get Seth's perspective on Gravel bikes. I plan on getting one sooner or later, primarily for commuting (which I only recently started, using my hardtail MTB. Alas, this is far from optimal, as I have lots of flat sections where something a bit more aero would really help, like a drop bar. Also, the rather fast tires I put on as my commute is 99% asphalt really limit the hardtail's usability for MT-Bing).
I'm one of those folks with out a compressor. Invested in a charger pump a few years back and was well worth the price, even came with a compartment in the handle for a ball inflator needle and one of those mattress inflator ends. Digital display is nice as well.
Best thing is being able to blast the tyre full of air then quickly keep pumping to get that last little bit to snap onto the rim.
you can buy a 26 gallon compressor for WELL under $200 used. go buy one.
Seth, can we please have more trail building videos!
Love your videos Seth! Could you make a video testing out tire inserts like cushcore?
I've wanted to use special tools for seating tubeless tires. Since discovering you can seat them just fine with a tire lever I haven't looked back. Use tube to seat the tire, remove tube but leave one side seated. add your sealent then take your tire lever and go around the tire and lift the bead onto the rim. forms enough of a seal for the pressure to pop the bead the rest of they way
My "entry level" Specialized came with an in-frame storage where I can put all the CO2 cartridges in the world as well as a bottle cage with an integrated multi tool. Provided it's not as fancy as Crankbrothers or One Up, but still.
I've used airshot I got from amazon and it works pretty well at seating my tires. I've also got the same crankbrothers battle cage thing. I've been using it a lot and it's great!
I'd like to see how the mechanism on the Crank Bros tool behaves after a few weeks or years use in mud. It's a recurring problem with all the bolt to the bike style tool kits - they seem to all be designed for people who never ride in wet, muddy conditions.
Potentially in the firing line of loose rocks/stones/gravel etc too
As a Bike mechanic, my tip for mounting tubeless tires!
Just buy and use, only Maxxis tires for tubeless MTB! They're made for mounting with a floor pump, or just a pump. So you don't need any special boosters!!
Airshot tire canister has been fantastic for me. I have seated both mtn and road bike tires with ease... I have had absolutely ZERO luck seating a mtn bike tire with a floor pump with my setup. Ended up begging a shop in Moab to help me out before I had one.
As all ways i am entertained.Thanks Seth for the videos you put out,and Hope you had a great Fathers Day.
I love these videos. Many of the products I've purchased were because of your reviews.
I have the Schwalbe Tire Booster, equivalent of the milkit product. Different from the Milkit booster, the Schwalbe comes with a hose to connect it to the tire, which I think is way more convenient.
For me, this works very well (unless I botch the rim tape, like in my last try 😆).
If you're talking about the Robert Axel you should do a review of Old Man Mountain racks on a full suspension bike.
3 SCFM air compressor. Best "MTB" purchase I've ever made. Use it almost every day.
Instead of buying one of those tubeless air can things, I ended up buying a floor pump with one built in (Bontrager Flash Charger) because I needed a new floor pump anyways, it works super well.
Dakine gripper bag fits everything I need, those multi purpose cages are for your surgeons and dentist types 😂
Wow the way this video starts is SO slick
That bottle looks 100% like a swiss made Sigg bottle just with the adapter for the tyre. Not sure if they´re pressure rated though. Worth a try?
I have a different brand of the air pump "booster". It works great for smaller volume tires. You probably need a bigger one for anything over ~50mm.
Love these videos Seth.
If you’re living out of a van you should probably carry an air compressor for the van’s tires.
Cliff bar joke had me for a second. Dad jokes on point.
That second crank bros tool set would be ideal on my Marino full suss
If you're going to be out far away from good toilet options (this is my experience while hiking), some kind if wet wipe - either those tablets or a small pack of baby wipes, and some hevyay duty dog poo bags are absolutely worth carrying.
2:00 it just seems like it doesn't have enough volume to be able to do it. If it was a bit larger it probably would be able to do it. its also going to be dependant on the tire like tire size, width, and how hard it is to seat the bead.
The bigger the tire and the wider it is its going to take more volume, and if the tire is one of those thats very difficult to set the bead on that is just not going to be enough.
You could takes some dish soap and rub along the tire where it's going to have the most friction when setting the bead to make it a little more slippery, plus ot will help seal when you're trying to set the bead.
Nice! hehehe! finally a user feedback for Hover Air... hahaha!
pumping in a bottle to then empty it in the tire sounds legit
The compressed towel tablets are much cheaper if you buy them in bulk, there’s lots of companies that make them and they’re super cheap.
Hover X1 is awesome! I hope it gives at least 2.7K in the future version. AND I WISH they come out with a new version..
Airshot makes an awesome inflator that works for me when a floor pump won’t work.
got a bag of 100 compressed towels on aliexpress for like 3.40€ (sale price, usually they are around 5 bucks) they are pretty usefull as you can soak them with many kinds of liquids to serve special usecases or just help to keep your hands clean in case of a dropped chain.
I'm getting those towels for RAGBRAI, thanks man
I use the Airshot instead of this MilkIt tire seater (pretty much the same product), and the Airshot works every single time I use, so not sure why Seth was having so much trouble here... These are great for people like me who live in a small condo where an air compressor is just too loud and bulky to consider.. I have never been able to get a tire seated with the floor pump alone, FWIW.
Need to take the valve core out first, I have had the zefal version (tubeless tank) for years and works perfect. I use a regular floor pump, not so heafty as yours
I bought something like 20 of those compressed towels for the equivalent of about USD$2, and keep a couple floating around in work bags and the like for emergencies. If there's a "Daiso" near you check them out.
I bought three similar products (and then returned them) to inflate my tubeless tires. Got a great work out, but no luck with the tires.
Little soapy water applied with a sponge around the bead pops it on every time for me. And yes, with a simple floor pump.
Seth, I agree with your Hover review. But you should talk about its big limitation for MTbers. Accent, decent speed. I have found it just cannot keep up with any of my mountain bike riding, because, my trails are not flat. as soon as you go up, or down at any reasonable speed, it just falls behind..
If you are on flat roads, it does fine. I dont know the maximum speed, But it will not keep up if you are going downhill at all. I have found anything more than a brisk walking pace, with a vertical change will fail. It just falls behind....
such a bummer, because it is really good. But not for MTB following.
See
I use the Robert Axle for our indoor trainer.
My fave type of Seth’s Bike Hacks video