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  • čas přidán 30. 09. 2013
  • This is a short film made by Peter Vogt in 1965 about axe making in Oakland, Maine. It documents the process of creating fine axes in the Emerson Stevens shop -- the last axe factory to operate in Oakland. Oakland was once a world-famous center of quality blade-making.
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Komentáře • 394

  • @gasfiltered
    @gasfiltered Před 6 lety +429

    Love all the BS comments about "how much we've lost" or "how far we've slipped". We didn't lose it, we gave it away. Every time you buy something at Walmart or every time you whine about the cost of an item made by an American tradesman making just enough to feed his family, you put another nail in the coffin of these people. Places and industries like this still exist, but you're too lazy and too cheap to find and support them. The cherry on top is when you make fun of young people for always wanting locally-sourced, artisan food and products. This right here is what locally-sourced artisan products look like.

    • @randydewees7338
      @randydewees7338 Před 6 lety +18

      Nonsense, you can't blame the present viewers of this old film! I don't know where or why you are bitter and blame others, but this is progress, what was once the standard method is superseded by more efficient methods and systems, simple truth and history bears this out. This outfit and ones that closed before it were victims of changing industry, simple as that. It's too bad and I suppose ironic that 50 years later guys with these skills now make a good livings. In Europe the transition was made with a few axe makers, and people happily pays hundreds of euros for "hand" forge axes. These guys were craftsmen, but they didn't have the ability to somehow sell their skill as pure skill. Same as wheel makers, arrow makers, musket makers, plow makers, whale spearmen, the list is endless.

    • @joshhill5932
      @joshhill5932 Před 6 lety +21

      randy dewees, You're right on that. There are still artisans making handmade axes, knifes, tools or what ever you are looking for. You just have to pay premium prices. I also to some extent agree with gasfiltered too. We have moved into a throw away culture and buy crap all the time and care more about price than quality. Now it seems you have the expensive handmade or the cheap Chinese made but very little in the middle. Company's focus on low price over quality cause that is what most people want.

    • @oldbloke100
      @oldbloke100 Před 4 lety +13

      Australia is the same, cheap imported goods, very little manufacturing any more. people look at price an not give a dam about quality or jobs. Its very sad.

    • @KevinsDisobedience
      @KevinsDisobedience Před 4 lety +19

      Glad to hear someone else say it. I’m a small business man, and every time I hear someone say, wow, that’s a lot, I think, yeah, compared to cheap, skilless, taxless, insuranceless, labor.

    • @InformationIsTheEdge
      @InformationIsTheEdge Před 4 lety +12

      @@randydewees7338 Friend, I think you need to read Gasfiltered again. That post is not about blaming anyone, its about calling out the hypocrisy of commenters. It's right there in the very first sentence.

  • @manson69in
    @manson69in Před 5 lety +62

    Thats my great grandfather I have some of his tools and axes

  • @Nightspyz1
    @Nightspyz1 Před 8 lety +141

    Love how he lights his pipe with the red hot metal 5:02

  • @nextinlinetoo
    @nextinlinetoo Před 3 lety +14

    Josh Burrell, absolutely right, absolutely wonderful and almost completely 19th century technology. Artwork. I wonder how many viewers notice that this used to be an assembly line of craftsmen, a row of likely water-driven workstations, overhead driveshafts, triphammer after triphammer...not just 3 craftsmen made obsolete by modernity. Maybe chainsaws are better, climate change might be the judge of that. But those hands, and those eyes, absolutely marvelous and the aesthetic loss to our culture is unimaginable and incalculable. Hammer away Josh, it is indeed important. And Peter Vogt, kudos to your youthful wisdom. Very nice visually, some shots are just gold. Black and white at its finest. 35mm film, my oh my.
    I was a Colby student in the late 70's, and later studied photography.

  • @JoshBurrell
    @JoshBurrell Před 10 lety +65

    Just wonderful, I am a full time tool maker and blacksmith, seeing a forge that well equipped makes me quite emotional. Sincerest thanks for sharing this video with the world.
    This stuff is global heritage.

  • @cabotbluegill
    @cabotbluegill Před 8 lety +85

    Thank you so much for preserving this piece of history

  • @jeffreyhill5178
    @jeffreyhill5178 Před 9 lety +43

    It's sad when I drive through Oakland and see the spots where the factories used to be, even the buildings are gone. Proud to say I own more than one axe made by Emmerson and Stevens! They sure don't make them like they used to.

    • @JohnDoe-pv2iu
      @JohnDoe-pv2iu Před 3 lety +4

      I love the old Axes. I have a beautiful Collins Ax and a Nice Council double bit Ax from my Family's home state of North Carolina. Council was still in business in 2019, not sure of now.
      One thing people don't get. You take one of these fine old Axes and you can split a Lot more wood, in a given amount of time, than with a cheap imported ax. After you sharpen the old ax to a point that it will shave the hair off your arm, you can split wood all day and easier than trying to cut wood with a piece of garbage Ax that isn't tempered for crap. You can't get a cheap ax very sharp and it won't hold whatever edge you can get on it, for very long.
      Great video.
      Yall Take Care and be safe, John

  • @42musket
    @42musket Před 9 lety +67

    Its amazing that you had the foresight to make this video / film when you did back in 1965. Thanks for posting it.

    • @andrewvida3829
      @andrewvida3829 Před 3 lety +5

      Actually not really that amazing. In 1965 blacksmithing was all but extinct and its prospects looked even more so.
      It wasn't until ca. 1975 when an old blacksmith named Francis Whittaker helped establish the Artist Blacksmith Association of North America (ABANA) where the art and craft of smithing was drawn back from teetering at the precipice. Today there are tens of thousands of blacksmiths across the land and the globe in fact who are keeping the art of smithing alive. I started in 1975, coincidentally, when I was 17 and forged my first cold chisel in school. Been doing it ever since.
      But in 1965 things looked truly grim for the art and craft of the smith. All the new-fangled tech appeared poised to send smithing right into the dustbin of history. Francis was one of but a few remaining smiths and through his tireless efforts right up to his death at age 93, he continued to wield a hammer and tell the whippersnappers they were doing it "wrong". :) He was a good old soul, now whooping it up in blacksmith heaven.

  • @petervogt123
    @petervogt123  Před 10 lety +22

    Josh, that kind of reaction warms the heart!!

  • @toblid4280
    @toblid4280 Před 6 lety +8

    I never comment on youtube but... I really miss this kind of filmmaking. This is excellent!

    • @twoZJs
      @twoZJs Před 6 lety +1

      Welcome aboard Tod. Commenting grows on ones and many create ideas for others to build on, maybe by you too over the years since '95, when the web time began to get cheaper. Adding, installing the blade end was new to me.

  • @paulbookbinder4899
    @paulbookbinder4899 Před 6 lety +24

    I can only echo what others have said - what a magnificent video of magnificent workmen, and what a terrible tragedy it is long gone. Thank goodness the film remains for us to see. thank you

  • @hermannstraub3743
    @hermannstraub3743 Před 10 lety +31

    Beyond the Information, the filming is very good, as well as the postprocessing.

  • @TomScherbluk
    @TomScherbluk Před 10 lety +20

    Magnificent - it's wonderful to see such a well-documented account of craftsmanship from a bygone era.

  • @robertburgess9374
    @robertburgess9374 Před 10 lety +10

    Many thanks - sadly if we had known how many small industries etc would disappear at that time, how much more could have been recorded... The end of an era, but thankfully Peter's film/video has saved a glimpse for future generations...

  • @ironcladranchandforge7292
    @ironcladranchandforge7292 Před 3 měsíci

    For most people today this is special to watch, especially to a Blacksmith like myself. To these men it was a another day on the job doing piece work. They make it look so easy. I've made axe and hammers before, it's not as easy as it looks, especially if you're not making them everyday as a job. They know exactly where to strike, how hard to strike, along with every other process like robots.

  • @EdFlecker1
    @EdFlecker1 Před 6 lety +4

    People simply do not suffer enough for their craft anymore. I am a classically trained Butcher ( hanging meat not boxed up bullshit). The skills that used to be commonplace are long gone now. The training that most "craftsmen" in the workforce today is nothing compared to the toil and pain endured by our predecessors. That type of hardship "separated the wheat from the chaff". Thus ensuring that those remaining in the craft cared about and took pride in what they do. There are also many countless things that a craftsmancannot understand unless they are hands on throughout the entire process. Thank you for preserving this.

  • @SIXGUNSAM
    @SIXGUNSAM Před rokem +1

    One of the Best Historical Videos on the Tube👍🇺🇸 thanks for Sharing

  • @rmcnabb
    @rmcnabb Před 10 lety +24

    Wonderful. They'd be able to stay open today - I can see a small handmade axe shop like this staying backed up with orders.

    • @jimc4731
      @jimc4731 Před 5 lety +4

      Perhaps OSHA had something to do with the closing of the business.
      I think the chain saw was significant in the plant closing. I have several old quality axe and hatchets and can not recall the last time I used them.
      Maybe the owner died and there was no interest in Maine to continue,
      Maybe the equipment was too worn and no one available that knew how to repair it. Maybe the skilled men wanted to retire and there was no one to take their place.
      Just sayin, JIM

  • @lctccc
    @lctccc Před 8 lety +138

    My grandfather- Stowell- owned this ax company!

    • @MCPetruk
      @MCPetruk Před 8 lety +9

      Is the building still standing?Are the machines operational?

    • @DrewDubious
      @DrewDubious Před 7 lety +13

      we really appreciate the craftsmen who made these axes. :)

    • @DarrellD.
      @DarrellD. Před 6 lety +6

      Great looking axe! Any idea where I might find one?

    • @egg2
      @egg2 Před 5 lety +4

      @@DarrellD. It's not cheap, but Brant & Cochran make an axe called Allagash Cruiser using the same methods seen in this film.
      www.bnctools.com/products/the-allagash-cruiser

    • @jimrichardson8852
      @jimrichardson8852 Před 5 lety +11

      @Stephen Stephe This was in 1965 in central Maine. There were a lot of people making a lot less money.

  • @Donny_Buysall
    @Donny_Buysall Před 7 lety +8

    This is extremely well done! Thank you for taking the time to film this when you did and also for getting it to YT!

  • @artgaff
    @artgaff Před 10 lety +5

    Thank you Peter Vogt for your vision in 1965

  • @Strafnaya
    @Strafnaya Před 10 lety +14

    i appreciate that axe much more than industrial made modern axes..

  • @oldschool3484
    @oldschool3484 Před 2 lety +1

    I dont know why but this hit my heart. These guys were real tradesmen.. Actually today these guys would be Highly sought after.. Each man had a special skill.. Even the tempering was an art. These guys made it look easy. Back then when this was filmed, they were not as appreciated as in former times or present..Thank you for sharing this.. Its a Real American Story, craft and way of life !

  • @BuckinBillyRaySmith
    @BuckinBillyRaySmith Před 7 lety +154

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS

    • @PatrickWagz
      @PatrickWagz Před 6 lety +5

      Buckin'..... I was about 2 minutes into this video, when I thought....."Buckin Billy Ray would absolutely LOVE this video!"
      Glad that you got to see it.

    • @georgfrese669
      @georgfrese669 Před 6 lety +4

      Just found the video, and was thinking of you ;-)
      Keep on......

    • @nivrat1975
      @nivrat1975 Před 6 lety +4

      Great video I love seeing how things where made when people made things
      Buckin’ do you have any Pioneer Axes.

    • @donnywt3195
      @donnywt3195 Před 3 lety +1

      I was about to send to you buckin until I read comments. I love these old videos

    • @bissoondathramlal2311
      @bissoondathramlal2311 Před 3 lety

      Thank god these types of products are making a comeback locally. Today at Home depot you could find good quality tools made in the good old USA. However don't blame people for the capitalist who went abroad for cheap labour and big profits. Put that on the shoulders of your elected officials.

  • @grizzly22485
    @grizzly22485 Před 8 lety +14

    I saw this film at a blacksmith's meeting in the late eighties. Wonderful of you to share it with us. Thanks.................Ross

  • @tikitavi7120
    @tikitavi7120 Před 4 lety +1

    All that skill, passed down through generations, died with those guys.
    One of those axes, in great shape with the sticker, would be worth a thousand bucks.

  • @thebertt
    @thebertt Před 8 lety +6

    Wow, it's obvious those two have been working together a long time. Bend, twist, hit, punch.. the wordless interplay's intriguing. Then again, maybe it's just Maine.. ;-} Thank you for posting this.

  • @cgarby
    @cgarby Před 10 lety +7

    thanks so much for posting this. It's a great look into an industry that was already in its last throws in the late 60s. Maine axes are some of my favorites to use on the trail.

  • @clintwalton319
    @clintwalton319 Před 8 lety +5

    That generation of Americans were awesome craftsmen! thanks for sharing this video.

  • @Vance_Hinds
    @Vance_Hinds Před 10 lety +7

    I think that is the coolest video I have ever seen. That was awesome. Great film, great history. Thank you Peter Vogt.

    • @Vance_Hinds
      @Vance_Hinds Před 10 lety

      ***** Many I would imagine.

    • @jwdougherty3798
      @jwdougherty3798 Před 6 lety +1

      Fewer than you might imagine. The wheels and the trip hammers are most hazardous and are the ones that require the greatest skill. And you'll note the wheels turn away from the user rather toward him like a modern powered wheel does. There's no hazard of the wheel throwing the axe back at the fellow doing the work.

    • @andrewmarvell982
      @andrewmarvell982 Před 6 lety

      Vance Hinds Nijmegen

  • @chriswouse7713
    @chriswouse7713 Před 10 lety +13

    5:02 now that s how you light a pipe! Good stuff very interesting!

  • @not2fast4u2c
    @not2fast4u2c Před 9 lety +7

    A Great old film on how they made axes back then

  • @ianhobbs4984
    @ianhobbs4984 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks that was really interesting and shows the superiority of Handmade over mass produced products.

  • @BM205
    @BM205 Před 3 lety +3

    What a great video! I have an Emerson and Stevens axe that was my great grandpa's.

  • @jiveturkey9993
    @jiveturkey9993 Před 6 lety +2

    Documentary film makers need to revive this style.

  • @DrewDubious
    @DrewDubious Před 6 lety +2

    I've got a few E&S HandMade axes in my collection 1928 being the oldest. They get handmade handles here and I make sure to take them out for a swing whenever I can.

  • @Lacombe57
    @Lacombe57 Před 8 lety +1

    Thanks for documenting this.

  • @barkebaat
    @barkebaat Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for making & preserving this film !

  • @Czech6ix
    @Czech6ix Před 10 lety +6

    Impressive film, and documentation. Thanks for posting it up!

  • @manipalakkadan9270
    @manipalakkadan9270 Před 8 měsíci

    thanks for such a wonderful video

  • @tomwaite4594
    @tomwaite4594 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank You...Exceptional quality

  • @mikemuenze5390
    @mikemuenze5390 Před 5 měsíci

    Much gratitude for this.

  • @TheRunAndGun10
    @TheRunAndGun10 Před 3 lety

    This video is a true treasure. Thanks!

  • @danelobe2524
    @danelobe2524 Před 3 lety

    That was an incredible experience, thanks for sharing this documentation.

  • @arthaiss3125
    @arthaiss3125 Před 10 lety

    Fantastic piece of recorded local history.
    Thank you for posting this.

  • @amishschulze8424
    @amishschulze8424 Před 10 lety

    What a great film. I could watch hours of your work.

  • @davidweston6653
    @davidweston6653 Před 6 lety +1

    Great to see the film and subject matter. Thank you

  • @Wettonbunker
    @Wettonbunker Před 3 lety

    Absolutely wonderful bit of film!

  • @stuartosborne6263
    @stuartosborne6263 Před 3 lety

    What a wonderful record, thankyou for sharing.

  • @clayriness6870
    @clayriness6870 Před 6 lety

    That was simply terrific. Thank you, Peter.

  • @paliacho9
    @paliacho9 Před 6 lety +1

    Fabulous. What a treasure of preservation.

  • @oldsteamguy
    @oldsteamguy Před 8 lety +3

    wonderful video. sure would love to be able to buy some of those today.

  • @Tekninentyo
    @Tekninentyo Před 8 lety +8

    Very good and informative film. Nice that You shared it with us.

  • @ThePepper1976
    @ThePepper1976 Před 6 lety +4

    Thank you for posting and sharing a piece of history. Love the old axes far more than the cheap chinese metal nowdays

  • @bengluyas4104
    @bengluyas4104 Před 3 lety

    Awesome stuff. What a workshop! ❤️

  • @andrewvida3829
    @andrewvida3829 Před 3 lety +1

    That was very well done, however short it may be.
    It was interesting to see that those guys placed the bit in what I consider to be the better way. Most smiths I know who have made axes leave the body split and place a wedge of steel into it and weld like that. The way shown here is WAY better. It leaves no room for cold shuts, all else equal, allows for better control of the weld, makes easier provision for any size bit... it's just the better way. I'm glad you showed this because other than myself, I have never seen a smith do it this way prior to seeing your film.
    Well done and thanks.

  • @MrMisaKulicka
    @MrMisaKulicka Před 3 lety

    Incredible and overlooked piece of history recorded well, thank you.

  • @Vandal_Savage
    @Vandal_Savage Před 5 lety +1

    great little movie here - thanks for the upload!
    :)

  • @RickShort21
    @RickShort21 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely excellent. Thank you so much.

  • @QCVT
    @QCVT Před 8 lety +7

    Wonderful. Thank you.

  • @sinistershenanigans965

    We to have plenty of films like this so satisfying. True craftsman.🇬🇧🇺🇸

  • @aarondalton2223
    @aarondalton2223 Před 3 lety

    Beautiful documentary.

  • @stephenrice4554
    @stephenrice4554 Před rokem

    Many a true word . Great film . 👍🇬🇧

  • @Syncop8rNZ
    @Syncop8rNZ Před 3 lety +1

    Wonderful!
    Such skill, such teamwork, such danger.

  • @allenhuling598
    @allenhuling598 Před 6 lety

    Great little movie here, Peter....thanks for this!!

  • @JohnSmith-me2vq
    @JohnSmith-me2vq Před 3 lety

    As an arborist who spent his whole life in maine, I appreciate every second of this video!!!

  • @garrybeard7718
    @garrybeard7718 Před 3 lety

    Awesome just awesome I love old documentaries thanks and well done.👍🍺🇬🇧🤘

  • @P61guy61
    @P61guy61 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you very much for posting.

  • @davidconaway2830
    @davidconaway2830 Před 5 lety

    Just awesome. Reminded me of films we used to watch in middle and high school.....back in the 70s.

  • @tomhollis2685
    @tomhollis2685 Před 3 lety

    Thank you, Peter! This was a nice Christmas morning treat in my CZcams suggestions! Very well done.

  • @raghavendraraghu4988
    @raghavendraraghu4988 Před 3 lety

    Every Hard working human know how much hard work it is and the satisfaction seeing his products in action

  • @dezertraider
    @dezertraider Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you Peter,Great video!73s

  • @meduffer
    @meduffer Před 6 lety +1

    That was great! Thank you.

  • @libsead
    @libsead Před 6 lety

    We need this kind of craftsmenship now!! It's a work of art that you can use!

  • @ERLong-ww7yn
    @ERLong-ww7yn Před 9 lety +5

    Very nicely done

  • @oldergeologist
    @oldergeologist Před 3 lety

    Beautifully done.

  • @christopherjeffries7538

    Excellent video.

  • @snobear41
    @snobear41 Před 3 lety

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS. TOO MUCH OF OUR HERITAGE IS LOST FOREVER

  • @inkydoug
    @inkydoug Před 3 lety

    I am glad that this excellent film exists, it's like a day from 1891 that lasted until 1965 in that noisy shop somehow. Danger and pollution everywhere! I'm glad for modern health and safety standards.

  • @pnwRC.
    @pnwRC. Před 3 lety

    Fantastic video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @yogabeeutiful
    @yogabeeutiful Před 10 lety

    Beautiful film.

  • @steersman-zv2ng
    @steersman-zv2ng Před 8 lety +10

    I like how the edge bit is an onsert rather than an insert .Possibly stronger? Most likely easier to forge!

    • @joshhill5932
      @joshhill5932 Před 6 lety +2

      Most of the American axes use to be made that way. It is way stronger cause doesn't put pressure on the welds

    • @jwdougherty3798
      @jwdougherty3798 Před 6 lety +4

      Almost all good axes are made that way. The body and poll of the axe are softer and can absorb force without damage. The bit is harder steel, more expensive, and thus the less you leave as dust on the floor the better. Older blacksmith made axes have the bit steel inserted between the two cheeks of the body and use considerably less high quality steel.

  • @just-dl
    @just-dl Před 6 lety

    Thank you, Peter, for making this. As a "Mainuh" - this touches me deeply.....

  • @lukelofgren4108
    @lukelofgren4108 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome old video!

  • @otahu26
    @otahu26 Před 3 lety +1

    Would be nice to see an old foundry like this back open.

  • @brianphilbrook5262
    @brianphilbrook5262 Před 7 lety +9

    I'd love to have gotten one of those axes

  • @americanaxetoolco2076
    @americanaxetoolco2076 Před 6 lety +1

    Very good video!

  • @eliprice138
    @eliprice138 Před 3 lety

    That is so awesome!! Thank you

  • @jlpservicesinc1452
    @jlpservicesinc1452 Před 4 lety

    As a blacksmith who specializes in Colonial type hardware and tools videos or movies like this are such treasures.. Luckily Peter you recognized taking the film needed to make this.
    Thank you.. It must have been an interesting conversation when you asked to shoot the film.

  • @hectormcarmonadiaz9184
    @hectormcarmonadiaz9184 Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks very interesting,very instructional.

  • @pttkstaszow
    @pttkstaszow Před 3 lety

    Good film! Thank You!

  • @bettyh3747
    @bettyh3747 Před 3 lety

    What a treasure!! Thank you!

  • @younggermanpreppers1435
    @younggermanpreppers1435 Před 10 lety +2

    Great Film ! :)

  • @peteremerson4150
    @peteremerson4150 Před 4 lety

    Very interesting film, thanks.

  • @dshurak827
    @dshurak827 Před 3 lety

    Awesome Video Thank you

  • @Pushyhog
    @Pushyhog Před 6 lety

    Thank for show our forefathers and our America we need to preserve some how.

  • @fuzzlenuff
    @fuzzlenuff Před 6 lety +1

    What a beautiful axe.

  • @jamesmuir7840
    @jamesmuir7840 Před 3 lety

    Such Twilight Zone vibes from this film. Ron Serling would be proud. Excellent content, thanks for posting

  • @tedmartin5402
    @tedmartin5402 Před rokem

    I just can't help watching this over and over

  • @tomoakhill8825
    @tomoakhill8825 Před 3 lety

    You tube has videos of people hand making axes, primarily for axe throwing. The point is that many trades died in the decades after the end of World War II: artisan bread, craft beer, hand made furniture, and axes, among many. Now they have all come back. E.g. In 1933 there were 710 beer breweries, by 1983 there were only a total of 80 breweries, run by only 51 companies. By 2020 this had grown to 7,000. So Peter Vogt was documenting one craft industry dying of many.