Episode #9: Inside the Spencer Tombs
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A visit to the 500 year old Spencer family chapel at the church of St Mary in Great Brington, just outside of Althorp, the final resting place for 17 generations of Spencers. It is an incredible piece of history that is rarely seen, but that is so important to understanding the story of the Spencer family and Althorp.
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I WANT A NETFLIX SERIES ABOUT THE SPENCERS!!! DOES ANYONE AGREE?
No netflix has done enough damage to history.
Yes, but someone else should do it, NOT Netflix! I would prefer a British TV crew do it. Had more than enough of American Netflix thank you very much!
@@xhogun8578 bless your heart
I agree
I don't care who does it but James knows the history so deeply and I really think he should do a video chronicle sharing all he knows about the whole family. He is a true historian.
We've always been told that Diana was from an aristocratic family, but my goodness I had no idea it was to this extent. The Spencer lineage is quite impressive.
She was a direct descendant of James 2 of England
So William will be the first jacobin king of England since 1688
Amazing links to the slave trade and colonialism also!! Amazing work
Oh, yes! Diana was born at Sandringham, she was a lady before she was a princess, her family is more British than the Royal Family. As a child they cavorted with the royals. Her dad was Equerry to the Queen. Her grandmother was lady in waiting to the Queen Mother!
Much like describing Jimmy Carter as a "peanut farmer" (he had extensive naval and scientific, background including nuclear submarines). At 500 years, the Spencers do not rank as *ancient* nobility. (The earl is my 9th cousin, 2x removed). One of my great grandfathers was created the Earl of Arundel in 1138 - a title now held by the Duke of Norfolk. He is the Earl Marshal of England - being the senior earl in the kingdom. He will preside at the coronation of King Charles.
@@sharenerobertson5574Seriously, do get a life.
I will never ever forgot Earl Spencers speech at Diana's funeral. It really needed to be said. She didnt need no royal title because factually she was more royal than the royal family. Rip HRH Princess Diana.
If you are counting the illegitimate issue of Charles II.
They are more Royal than the Royal Family.
Glorified farners@@lornapalmer6426
I can’t look at Earl Spencer without thinking of his heartbreaking eulogy at Diana’s funeral. Rest in peace Princess Diana 🌹
As a lover of history, it's wonderful to hear a descendant talk about his family.. thanku Earl Spencer.
Thank you to Charles Spencer for preserving his heritage and sharing it with us.
Thank you to Charles
Glad he did something right.
beeing cause of Lady Di, especially
Americans never know how to dress for the occasion.
You can see that Charles is quite comfortable being surrounded by family, no matter their century. I love his comment about the family red hair!!
Henry "Harry" Spencer, has a nice ring to it.
@@mnm2156 Lilibet has that red hair too.
So Prince Harry had red hair
@@Samata-mo2jw
Prince Harry does have Red hair, both his children have red hair.
@@Samata-mo2jw He takes after his mother’s lineage more strongly than his father. You’ll also notice that it is recessive gene, reason why Prince William is more a blondie like his father’s (grandfather Prince Philip) side. Very odd for 2 children to both have recessive traits especially if their mother has DNA from Africa on one side of their family. Queen Charlotte had like way back Black ancestors but my did they make themselves known. Blackness tends to dominate (genetically speaking).
Thank you Charles Spencer. It’s not where your body is going that matters; but your soul. Amen 🙏
💙❤ ...a movie about this would draw a lot of interest...IMO
@Jessie a Netflix series would be better different generations throughout....
I truly think and believe that this is where Diana is buried. I have been to the "oval island." Once I saw it, I had a strong sense that she was not buried there and that it was a decoy to protect her privacy of where she truly is. This setting in this country church is beautiful. It is where she probably is. I hope so.
Wonderful video. Thanks to The Earl for producing and narrating it.
Totally agree. I can't imagine them laying her to rest away from the rest of the family. I sure hope so too.
Next to her father. Probably.
I tend to agree & at the time the stone to the below burials had been disturbed before her burial the Island as seen on TV.
I agree. She would be placed with the family. She’s just in a spot that no one can see.
Yes I also agree that Diana is probably with her family. I have been to Althorp and did think it was too remote for her. I truly hope she is with her family in the church.
I strongly believe that our Queen of hearts is resting here next to her late beloved father and surrounded by her legend ancestors .Rest well in your eternal sleep Princes Diana .You are forever in our hearts .
You think so?
She isn't actually. She is laid to rest on the Althorp Estate but not that church. She is laid to rest at Oval Lake Grave.
@@ElineQ07 I doubt she's on the island. Water table issues and logistics to get a lead lined coffin across the lake.
Me too. I can't see her being buried on that island or maybe she was, but she's not there now. The area in that church where she would be is all heavily secured now.
I don't believe she's on the island in the middle of the lake. It's just something to tell people so the church doesn't get bombarded day in day out. There's several videos on youtube touring the church yard and discussing it
I love the story of the Spencer history, its fascinating. The Earl has done a great job of looking after the family heritage.
Listening to what Charles said at the end, I suppose Diana must be in the chapel, like the rest of her family, not on the lake.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
She's buried on an island on the estate.
Charles 👎
@@cmc495 i think shes with her dad
I some times think the same but also Diana was a larger then life person people were enamored with her they may of buried her on the island but as long as she resting in peace
I am sure that the remains of the Late Diana are in this church Bless you Diana
🙏❤💔
Nope, she's buried on an island on the estate
Fascinating family history, Althorp must be a very interesting place to visit. I really hope that in reality Princess Diana is buried in the vault with her parents. It’s very sad to think that she is on that lonely island away from everyone, when all her life she strived to be with people.
@@franklinstephen3268 crappy old scammer
Most think she is with her Dad.People in the village reported that late that night of her funeral,the church and crematorium had the lights on for hours.As for the island,the water table is too high for a heavy wooden coffin.
Her Mom is buried all by herself in a cemetery in Oban, Scotland
Fascinating. I love history and it’s awesome that Charles Spencer is so in touch with his family history
History is my most favorite channel. I love watching it cause i learn alot from it.
You are a wonderful son, grandson..great grandson, father, brother and uncle:) You are a keeper of the faith and history of your family!!! I respect you immensely :)
But not husband !!!
A true Royal family with a very long history and of course one of the most famous woman in the world ..
Lady Diana Spencer ..
The Queen of our hearts 💕💕
Aristocratic, but NOT Royal.
@@abbatrouble I stand corrected .
Long live the King 👑
@@abbatroubleDiana was a beautiful soul.
@@dspenceruk Everything you think you know about Diana is the result of a carefully composed PR campaign .If she was truly a beautiful soul she would never have cheated on her husband with so many men and then used the media and Andrew Morton to pretend that he cheated first or alerted the photographers every time she had a charity event after having ordered a very expensive designer outfit for phot ops. She was a sweet shy soft-spoken girl in public and a shrieking paranoid jealous monster in private!
I love history and to hear Charles talk about his family, really makes the people come to life. I wish he would write a book about all the past Spencer’s.
I thought the same thing.....a book
I am sure he has written a book about the Spencer family .When I visited Althorpe to visit Princess Diana,s home ,you could buy a book about the family ,or a copy of the address from Diana,s furneral .I bought a copy of the speech from the furneral ,Earl Spencer was in the gift shop at the time ,and I asked him if he would sign it for me ,which he kindly did .We had a conversation about Princess Diana ,and I said how sorry I was about her death .He is a very charming man to speak to .
He did. It’s on Amazon.
@@tlynn7043thank you, I just ordered it 😊
There's a show called Secrets of the Dead: Archaeology at Althorp (season 20 ep1) you would like, it's very good
I am a Spencer, and I absolutely love this video. I could hear Charles talk about the Family forever. I have been working on my Family Tree and DNA, so hearing these names that I have seen within my tree is absolutely wonderful.
It's a fantastic way to learn history. That's why I enjoyed "Who Do You Think You Are" show. History is just something significant happening to someone's family, when you think about it. I love to look at old documents that lists family on them and wonder what THEIR story was all about. History is amazing and the older I've gotten, the more I love it.
Yes there are a lot of American Spencers that are distant cousins to them. Abigal Spencer the actress is their distant cousin.
@@peachygal4153 oh cool I didn't know that I love her
@@zzz...3837 well hello Cousin. It's funny, I had the reddish undertones in my natural light brown with natural blondish streaks in it as a child. I then hated it. In the last 2 years I have grown my hair out to see what was going on naturally, I am now embracing it, plus some of my 'Irish whites' as I call them on the crown of my head. I am finding out the beautiful white hair instead of grey is also on my Father's side.
Hello cousins!
Thank you, it is lovely tribute to the Spencer family.
Thank you Earl Spencer (princess Diana little brother) for allowing the world to have a glimpse of your family's burial site. Resting in a church, may God watch over you all.
All of the tombs are so beautifully preserved, and indeed reflect the period when each family member lived. I see a clear family resemblance in so many of the faces, especially the eyes. The stories are fascinating. We are fortunate Earl Spencer is willing to share his family history with us.
Charles Spencer is a really wonderful gentleman and the whole family have their feet firmly on the ground. He has done his best for his family and the staff who work for him. It’s one big family all doing their bit to carry the name into the future. When you meet him he is down to earth and incredibly knowledgeable. His love for his family both present and past he can share the lives with you. I found him to be a true gentleman and friendly.
Love listening to the history of the Spencer's. I never knew about this Spencer church. When he said he would be dead down there in the underground vault with all the generations I have little doubt Lady Diana is down there too & not out in the middle of that island by herself. She would be very well protected down in the vault
Protected from what? She's dead
I like how you include stories of the women in your family. So much of what we hear about history is men's stories.
Charles, Earl Spencer is a marvelous storyteller and family historian. I hope his children will look after Althorp with as much care and attention as Earl Spencer has. Althorp is a treasure trove of history and priceless artwork. Princess Diana did not step into foreign territory upon her marriage to King Charles.
"Storyteller". Anything to sell books.
I know how Earl Spencer feels about it being comforting to know that he will be with his family. We have a family cemetery, not near as grand as the Earl's, lol, but I've known since I was little that I would be there one day, and that gives me great comfort.
many thanks Charles Spencer for the lovely tour of your ancestors and your safe keeping of our people princess ❤❤❤
Wonderful to share history so well taken care of and preserved. Thank you for sharing
History is obviously my favorite program i learn alot from it.
Hey there! I came across your comment and I just had to reach out and say hi. Your perspective really caught my attention and I would love to get to know you better. Would you be interested in chatting sometime? Looking forward to hearing back from you!😊
Charles is so relaxed and deeply proud of his family’s lineage. This is interesting to learn about this side of the Spencer Family. I think Prince George looks like Charles, Diana’s brother.
Prince George looks just like Charles Spencer, especially the eyes
I love these little shorts #1508 about the Spencer family history - thank you for sharing your world with us.
Love this. I loved lady Diana Spencer. Love hearing about her family.
AMAZING!! No one knows the history, completely love it,Diana im sure is proud of her brother. ❤️
Even tho she wasn't speaking to him before she died after he had refused to allow her to return to live at Althorp
Incredible! Whole story of this aristocratic family is incredible! And then Diana!
Seeing the carving of their faces, and especially the portrait of Penelope really brings their names to life. Thank you so much for sharing. What a beautiful place to lay in rest for eternity along with your ancestors. 🙏
From my understanding, the Earl Spencer was protective of his sister and so hurt by the way she passed, This has to be where she was buried, I always thought how impractical it was to bury or entomb someone on a small island. I hated the idea of putting Diana in such an isolated place, especially since she hated being isolated in life. After seeing this and hearing what he has to say about family, I am convinced Diana i actually buried here. I can see why they would build a decoy burial spot for the public to visit.
I’ve always though Diana was buried here.
Yes, it makes perfect sense. She did not feel protected while alive plus she would be with family this way. The island is for the fans and for tourists.
It's long been a theory that she is entombed here.
ALL the Spencer family are in the church.
Fascinating and interesting to see how interwoven the Spencer's are to English history.
Althorp is such a wonderful place. It´s good to know it´s in the best hands.
I’m loving these Spencer 1508 videos. It’s so wonderful to see an American embrace British culture with curiosity and respect instead of slamming it because they don’t understand it and won’t make the effort to understand it either
Bang on
They are in the minority, sadly. Most Americans are ignorant of history, including their own limited history as a country.
@@hgodvilla00 I don’t think that’s true, what you seen on social media is not a reflection of the US. Just like the disgusting British tabloids aren’t a reflection of British people.
I thought it was Americans and other foreigners who were more interested in the British royal family and aristocracy than actual Brits?
@@commonomics I suspect the original post was a vailed swipe at Prince Harry’s wife.
Thank you both for sharing your home, your family history and your love for Althorp with us.
That is such a beautiful resting place full of Spencer family and English history. Lovely to see it.
Thank You very much. Charles Spencer that was so interesting. To have such a large, tangible connection to your ancestors, spanning centuries, is marvellous and fascinating.
I could listen to Charles all day , I love how he talks about his family's rich history , such a beautiful Gent ....Thank you 🇨🇦
Much respect to Sir Charles Spencer, he has dedicated his life to preserving his family estate and their history.
The correct form of address is the 7th Earl Spencer.
Diana was such a lovely lady ,RIP princess Diana😢,you will never be forgotten ❤
Charles looks very happy Karen I think that you're contribution with all the hard work you do means alot to the family
Yes he looks after it withgreat passion
Fascinating history.....thankyou Charles so much. I love this series 💝
The history is amazing. The tomb’s magnificent
He’s a excellent historian.the art work is beautiful
Just beautiful.
I got to see Althrop first year it opened after Diana passed. It was lovely to pray for her around the oval. Shame I did not get to the Church. Such beauty on the estate. Enjoy these video’s immensely.
Prince 🤴 George is a Spitting Image of Earl Spencer. Looking more and more like him daily.
You need new glasses.
Fascinating to listen to Charles and to see the vault. I'm still convinced Princess Di is in the vault with her ancestors and not on the island, especially after Charles said *all the Spencers are there*
I agree
All I can say is WOW. Now that's a family history. Thank you for sharing this.
Love this program as an avid history lover. The Spencers are an old aristocratic family. Yes Diana is resting with them. ❤🙏💐 Helen from 🐨🦘🦜
Love hearing about the Spencer family's history..Charles sir,you need to put a book together about the history of all the Spencer's & what they did & how they contributed to the family,and would love to hear about their hobbies etc if any.Thank you for bringing us this channel 👍🏻
He did write a book years ago - I have a signed copy. Available on Amazon (unsigned).
I would, as a Spencer would love a signed copy of Charle's book. I thought of buying on Amazon, but I am hoping maybe someday he will be near Boston and I can go get one and get it signed. William was just here, but I am recuperating from a second ankle reconstruction. I truly wanted to go to just say, I am so proud to be a Spencer and be a kin to you and your immediate family. According to me ancestry tree and dna, Charles is my 8th cousin, twice removed. His Daughter Kitty and my Daughter Kaili bear a striking resemblance. I could watch clips like this all day. Thank you for sharing.
@@mamakat114 It would be great if you could visit Althorp. It is well worth the trip even for those of us with no genealogical connection to the Spencer's. I'm in Massachusetts, too. I am going to go look thru my bookshelves & make sure it is the story of the family that he signed (I have a huge royal family collection going back to my grandparents). I'll be back in touch once I locate it because I am trying to downsize & am engaging in gifting items to people who'll appreciate what I have. Hopefully it will bring me good karma. Meanwhile, I bet if you contacted him & mentioned your family ties, he'd sign something for you.
@@hltvieira6354 you are so sweet. I thought about contacting him myself. Thank you for the push, I think I will. Knowing how much he loves history of not just the Family, but all history I love watching him talk of all history.
@@hltvieira6354 I have other royal family connections as well as it sounds like you do. Wouldn't it be cool if we were so close and related. It's strange, my 16th Great Grand Father, Thomas Kitson is obviously my Daughter's 17th GGF. However, on her Father's side, he is her 14th GGF, and also a GGF of her StepMom. Kaili said, "ewe, that's weird, that's probably where my mutant green eyes came from." She doesn't have the "Spencer Blue Eyes" like I and my Son, Anthony, (different Dad) have. Her Father has dark brown eyes. It is all so fascinating. Being out of work from surgeries since April, all I could do for Christmas and what the kids wanted were ancestry dna kits. So I did mine first to be sure it lined up with the tree I worked on for all 3 of us, plus my Stepdaughter, which is how I found out her Mom has the same GGF. It is all so fascinating.
Really enjoy learning about the Spencer family history
It's really interesting watching this. History is actually my favorite program 😊
This was excellent and deserves an in depth series.
All I can say is wow. The Spencer family is so rich in history, it's just astounding.
Wow i didnt realize how nice this man is. Also eloquent words.
It really is amazing. So much history behind this family.
This is where (imo) that Diana is interred. And it makes sense. It would be a terrible idea to have actually placed her in a grave subject to the water table on an island; (like trying to bury someone below ground in New Orleans, Louisiana. The grave would not last & if there's flooding, the casket would not remain. Your secret is safe with me( I saw all the security cameras in the Spencer section).😉 r.i.p. Diana🕊Princess Of Wales😇
As a lover of history, the thing I respect the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish for is their extensive written history. The love of their history and their country is most admirable. I hope they never lose it, like we are here in the US.
I can only go back to my great grandparent, on both sides of my family. I wish I could go back further. I wish my ancestral homes were available to me with a knowledge of them, my family and their history.
In the UK, homes, that are hundres of years old and still standing, can be seen in sketches as they were and sometimes still are, in the Domesday Book. Their extensive history of the ownership of properties makes our title companies look like a joke!
Wow cant even imagine 500 history of one family line in one chapel. And what a chapel and tomb. Must of cost a fortune even back in the day. How beautiful it is. Exquisite craftsmanship of the carved individuals. Love the history. TY for sharing.
The idea of all the family (17+ generations) being together in one place is amazing to me. My family members are buried in many Philadelphia PA cemeteries(Dad’s side) and towns and family farms in the U.S.A., and in the case of my immigrant ancestors, in England, in the Netherlands, in Germany, in Ireland, and in possibly in other countries.
What a lovely piece of history.
I I’ve recently found some old photographs and one painted portrait going back 7 generations of my family and I think that his amazing and it still is only about half way as far back as this goes.
Incredible!
I stumbled over your site, and found it a memorable read. I studied British Empire history in graduate school years ago. My mother’s father and ancestors hailed from Somerset in the latter 1800s. Grandfather George came from a farming area and had 12 siblings. They came to the US at the time of the 1890s world depression. The eldest came first, found jobs in industry or in the dairy farms of the Ohio Midwest. Then they sent for siblings, and one by one brought the entire family over from England. My mother’s side came from German nobility and served in the Courts of the Russian tzars, the females served as ladies in waiting to the tzars. I was very obvious by the 1880s that they needed to get out before the world exploded in their faces. They were well off. They sold everything off those final years in Odessa and came to North America. Some of the siblings came to Seattle, Washington. The others traveled on to Winnipeg, Canada, a large farming/ranching region with German speaking Russians that they knew. They were considered to be millionaires judging by the number of buildings on their land and livestock herds. I was fortunate to have a second cousin to my mother write a history of the family and produce enough books that she sold them to all the relatives. Although we sort of held nobility titles in the Russian Court or ancestors would not be ladies in waiting. I found it fascinating to learn that tzars picked their brides from certain German Duchy noble families. Catherine the Great was a German born rindless from one of these Duchies (late 1700s). My Great Grandmother Elizabeth Schmidt married and moved with her husband to the United States and settled in northern Ohio on a dairy farm. Several f her siblings followed suite. Some came farther south from Canada to the Dakota Territories because land was relatively cheaper and occasionally less severe winters. Whether wealthy, landed aristocracy from a noble family as yours, or one of simpler background but with similarities, I found it fascinating to see we all live in a similar microcosm where family, ancestors, and heritage matter, and how we honor them in death.
Julie Watson.. Thank you Julie for sharing your story of your family history!! Fascinating !!
That is way too cool! How fascinating that his ancestor was ennobled by Henry VIII! Thanks for posting this gem!!
I really think Diana is where her brother is going under the floor I don’t believe she is where they say she isxxx
She's definitely with her family.
@@annechris2677 yes I think so also she was more Royal than the royal family
I think you could be right.
I think thats true, somehow i managed to catch what i think is a glimpse of her iconic silhouete..check the floor on 2:03.. I think thats diana
Thank you for this history. Such a beautiful church,and very interesting historical accounts of the Spencer families.
I would never be bored! How fascinating!
My first love of a subject to study was history with a B.A. in history from a University in the University of Texas group. My specific area of study was Modern European History. The grounds and buildings of the Earl of Spencer’s holdings fall in this period. Delicious to study! ❤
The title of the family is Earl Spencer,. There is no 'the' in the title. Charles Spencer talking here is the 7th Earl Spencer.
It is tremendous to listen to someone who takes so much interest in his family history and shares it with not only his family but all who are interested. As a just retired teacher, you both are tremendous teachers for the coming generations, giving the young and old fascinating stories to make history come alive. Thank you and please continue sharing with us.
Thank you for this! I find history truly fascinating and you're so very lucky to have your family history so well documented and to be able to be surrounded by all of that history is absolutely amazing to me.
Loving the history of #1508!! Would love a job like this!!
OMG WOW THIS IS INCREDIBLE!
Beautiful family history. Thanks for sharing ❤
@@franklinstephen3268 ok. I don’t know how a short comment like mine was so interesting
@@franklinstephen3268 ok thank you 😊 I don’t mind speaking to real people and not spammers
Thank you so much for sharing your family history with us.
It's so nice to know about such past history. Hope all is well with you?
This is a lovely channel; I look forward to more episodes. The current Earl and Countess make a beautiful couple.
Many say Diana Is actually buried here with her family 🤍
Such an interesting video. I was fascinated to hear about the knighthood bestowed by Henry VIII. Earl Spencer is such a good story teller. 👍
It was so cool to hear that from Charles himself. I had learned that on my ancestry journey, so it let's me know I am on track with my tree as a Spencer and my dna journey. I can't wait to watch the rest of your content.
I am so enjoying this series. I love history and find these videos about the house, grounds and family utterly fascinating. Thank you for sharing with all of us.
Thank you sir, for sharing such interesting and personal insights about your family and it's connection to England. When you speak of past generations, I can feel as if I'm part of the story. What a beautiful place where everyone is buried and remembered. I hope you can share more stories of everyday things because you are a passionate historian and storyteller.
This is just so interesting! I would love to visit one day!!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
How wonderful of charles to live respect his family dear Diana back in arms of her loving family..away from the evil people she married into .rip.
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I am impressed that over the centuries the family fortune is still intact..
At one point, Diana's father was being taxed by the government at about a 95% tax rate. It's a miracle they fought through it
Love all the historical content. I wish I could visit, but I don’t think I will ever be able to afford it. But with these videos, I feel like I’m there. Thank you for the posts.
Hey there! I came across your comment and I just had to reach out and say hi. Your perspective really caught my attention and I would love to get to know you better. Would you be interested in chatting sometime? Looking forward to hearing back from you!😊
Very special thank you!
Amazing. I love the "stories" of family and history. So happy to have found your channel.
What an amazing family and now lady Spencer your contribution brings alot of interest which is invaluable in making us understand the history of this incredible family
Greetings from Maryland, USA! Thank you for the very interesting tour! I am connected to the Spencer family through Mary Capell Somerset's grandfather Sir Henry Capell and his wife Theodosia Montagu who are in my mother's direct paternal lineage. The Capell family members were originally from Rainshall, Essex and Hadham, Hertfordshire, England.
Happy New Year to all!
Oh wow so impressive..you also related to the Aristocratic Montagu family ?
@@salanietabanuve5448 Yes! I wish I could have shared the family history with my beloved grandfather before he passed away. He knew more about his maternal grandfather's side of the family (Westaway) who originated from Torquay, Devonshire, England. Per my understanding, the Westaway ancestors in England all originated from Wales.
I have read all of Charle’s books. Soo good.
I want to know SO MUCH MORE!! Please Charles Spencer, do a series or documentary of your family history! This is beautiful!
Wow, súper interesante!!! Por esto Diana era más de la realeza que los Windsor, la dinastía Spencer es más royal.
Hello, I'm looking forward to this video ❤
Same here, such an amazing video and i love watching history
I just love the close up on gable hood.
Amazing- Thankyou for sharing with the word earl spencer ❤
A fascinating look into family history.
Thank you! I recently found out through Ancestry that I’m a third cousin of Earl Spencer from a Spencer-Washington union, which the English Washingtons are also buried at Upper Brington so they were once neighbours to Althorp, which I’ve had the pleasure of seeing before I knew I had roots there. I really appreciate getting to see the Spencer crypt, as that is of course off-limits to visitors. I’m now having a great time getting acquainted with these people from a different perspective that they are now “family”.