How To Add New Languages & Avoid The Dangerous Polyglot Trap | Daily Language Diary 029
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2020
- Is there a "right" way to add a new foreign language? Does it change after you add a third or a fourth language? How to maintain languages while adding new ones? These are all great language learning questions that we tackle in today's episode of the daily language diary!
We also cover my thoughts on what I think is perhaps the biggest "trap" that a lot of polyglots fall into. Let's make sure you're prepared and don't make that mistake! 💪🏼
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I do think that people get addicted to those first few weeks of rush that they get from learning a new language. I have had it 3 times now and it feels like the best part but if you keep doing it I feel like it's somewhat lazy. Additionally, I think it's like getting through 4-5 seasons of a 10 season TV show and then just wanting a new TV show, when if you'd just stuck with the same show for the last 5-6 seasons, you'd see how amazing it becomes. I am starting the 6th season of Swedish now haha.
how interesting! I never thought of this as 'dopamine rush' for learning new languages but it explains why so many 'polyglots' will make videos adding sooo many languages and not truly enjoying or getting to the depths of those languages. this makes me feel less guilty about aspiring for fluency / proficiency in 7 languages and not 20!
I've been stuck at B2-ish with Spanish for a very long time. I just had no contacts and didn't seek any. Then a friend of mine wants to learn Spanish so I've been giving him a few useful words, phrases etc. It's weird but it's fired me up to get off my backside and to move onwards.
It's given me a real boost by helping him, now I feel like I can try and tackle the long road to Spanish in C1. It's also helping me with my Italian, using the one I'm familiar with to support the other !
Hi Brian, I'm a native Spanish speaker from Venezuela and I´d be glad to help you practice your Spanish while you help me practice my English.
Some people say there's a point where a language kinda "clicks," and you've achieved enough that you can feel certain you won't ever lose that basic core of it, at least in terms of your comprehension of it... And that's the point where it's kinda "safer" to add new languages, if you desire. Maybe that's somewhere in the B1-B2 range... I don't know, though. I've never got to that point yet.
Coffee and languages ❤
Such a wonderful combination ☺️ ♥️
I've just started my polyglot journey and I'm finally leaving the dopamine rush of French. I am still making amazing progress, but it's going a wee bit slower.
Stay the course, change method and resource a million times before you switch Language or give up or get "bored" and you'll get there.
I’m going to miss your videos so much after the 30 days!!
Don't worry Lindsay! Some VERY exciting things are coming after this and I think you're going to LOVE what is next! ❤️🚀
Yeah. I've been focusing on French for a good while. Studied Russian for a while, but stopped because 2 language + full time school is too much. But, now I'm visiting Brazil next year, and then Japan the next, so I gotta focus on those, right after getting that comfortable B2 Frenchhh.
And, 3 weeks into Japanese, I'm like, suddenly checking out Mandarin videos and podcasts.
I should also do some Spanish italki...
Someone needs to slap me.
oh i feel you
I couldnt agree with you more. I've always wanted to learn many different languages but I always find myself wondering whether to add a new language or just keep improving the two foreign languages that I have already learned.
Like all of us who love languages, what's the point in learning languages you're never going to need or really use? I don't know the answer. But, we need to realize it invoves enjoyment and some practicality, not impressing anyone, including ourselves.
When i learned english, it opened a whole new world that wasn’t accessible to me before and i hope that with the more languages i learn the more i discover new things, cultures and get more opportunities and knowledge :)
thanks for this comment! It's exactly this reason i have stopped with mongolian, hungarian, and polish although i used to live and teach english in each country, it is so silly but just for this reasn i felt so obligate to keep all 3 when i wasn't enjoying any of them. i actually DO enjoy Russian so very much even though I didn't teach there. so i realized, life is too short to be worry about 20 languages when i can enjoy a more do-able number of 7. BUT I want t really get GOOD at those 7 languages.
Thank you so much for this 🙏 I’ve been through a few videos on YT on the same subject but yours is the one which makes most sense! ❤️
I enjoy thinking about these topics too. Thank you Robin for providing such encouragement. It's great to have language learning made exciting. I would like to add a couple of thoughts to the discussion.
1) I think that it is very important that one is mindful of one's personality and how this works both for us and against us. It's very difficult to harness the enquiring mind to a restricted diet when by nature it wants to experiment and synthesise. Ultimately these are the linguists that play with cognates and provide other lectures on what they have learned in their journey.
2) The role of disappointment is often at play. Picking a language up again as you sadly put it down yesterday. Staring at the book, one's made a start with French now Turkish is jumping off the shelf. Competing lovers so to speak.
3). Finally I concur with others who have commented here already; just a drip wears the stone away over the years. In another video Robin speaks about setting the trajetory and that's really helpful. If we dial into the trajectory on a daily basis that drip will eventually be a puddle and then maybe a lake with perseverance. The nature of life is contraction and expansion in all things.
If you are also a Portuguese speaker, life is too short to learn German. Go for Italian, French, Spanish, Romanian... No just kidding! Yeah I use to go up to B2 level. Just english I broke through this. But yeah I do like you said Robin! I try to practice the language with "leisure learning". Music, Whatsapp groups, movies... they do a bit rusty but yeah.. no worriessss
You are absolutely right, dude
Thank you!
You videos are very explanatory! Great content :) I wish you success through your learning process! Cheers!
I enjoyed this video, I speak spanish and english and i'm learning my third language, hebrew
With so many to choose from, I've narrowed down my choice of languages to a particular geographical area. At least that way I'll find practical uses for those languages. I'd rather get more into dialects of a language that I'm already quite familiar with rather than to keep adding new ones.
Umm If you what you mean by dialects are local slags from different countries, not even native speakers know all the dialects of their language. I'm a native spanish speaker and I only know the slags from my own city (Not even from other cities within my country) and some mexican ones. (We spanish speaker can understand each other 90% to 99.9% depending on how may slags are used by the speakers) So, I prefer to focus on one country and try to sound and speak like people from that country. well that's just my humble opinion.
Great video. Absolutely OK with you.
Love this video so much. I can't agree more. YES the need to control the number of languages is crucial if we want to progress and reach the profound depth of a language that makes for such a rewarding experience!! I think 8 - 10 Over the course of a lifetime is absolutely possible. But I feel like working on one new one at a time is a must.
I've been learning French for some time now and I would like to add Italian but I was unsure about when the right time to do it was, this video had some great advice! These daily videos have been great, it's going to be weird not finishing the day watching one!
I’m in the exact same position! I’m starting to learn some Italian from french directly because a lot of the grammar is similar (être-avoir/essere-avare) etc... I’d maybe give that a go when you do try because it can also help expose your weaknesses in french as well so you can tackle them
I say the languages I want to learn but I'm taking care which languages I want to learn because my mind is constantly changing ))
That's a great videoooo
I am kinda in that same situation. All the best.
Totally agree with you 👍🏻
Hola! Soy Elena de Cali Colombia. Ahora vivo en Alemania. Gracias un por tus tips!
Exactly my philosophy. My first language is German and at the moment I’m studying Spanish and English...but when I started studying languages about two years ago I found myself with beginners textbooks of Greek, Mandarin, Dutch, Portuguese and Italian and therefore I barely had enough time to study all of them in a sufficient way. So I decided to throw them all away and to push my English to a native level (a goal I’m still far away from). Then I started to go after my Spanish skills on which I’ve been working for quite a while now...that appears to be just way more beneficial to me. I’d rather like to be proficient in 3 or 4 languages than at the beginners level in 12.
Hi I'm a native Spanish speaker from Venezuela and I´d be glad to help you practice your Spanish. do you listed to music in Spanish?
One resource that would help compliment Robin's method of the "tier" system and balancing multiple languages is to use the website/application called "Habitica". It lets you make daily goals or do to lists and I've found that it's really helped me balance my varying types of hobbies while also feeling extremely rewarded with the progress I have made in my languages. For example, I in addition to recording my resources in my language resource sheet, I also feel really rewarded when I check off a book I wanted to read in x language in my "To Do" list on Habitica. This application has also helped me evaluate if I'm burning myself out with too many resources and which resources those are, or which resources have been the most useful to me! I've been using Habitica for around a year now and it's definitely helped me become a more organized person.
Habitica is great! There are also language guilds on there and challenges that can be good for motivation.
good video, Gruesse aus Australien. Ich lerne auch viele Sprachen und Deutsch ist meine lieblings und beste Fremdsprache, die ich gelernt habe. Es ist schwierig, viele Sprache zu lernen aber trotzdem interessant. Es kommt darauf an, WARUM du eine Fremdsprache lernst.. Es gibt viele Gruende dafuer.. Manche beherrschen eine Sprache und andere versuchen viele zu lernen... Viel Erfolg beim Sprachenlernen!
I've been learning Hebrew for a little over a year. I have noticed that I do get more interested in other languages when I am frustrated with Hebrew for whatever reason. The one big thing that brings me back to Hebrew is the fact that I hate being an absolute beginner in a new language. I've gotten to the point in Hebrew where I'm advanced enough to be able to find comprehensible input. I'm just not advanced enough to enjoy it yet. I don't think it can truly be integrated into my life.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO last episode!!!!!!!! I am really enjoying your daily diaries, with coffee, and now you said " the last episode" Thanks Robin! thanks a lot for you efforts and all your videos.
I am learning English!!!!💪🏼👍🏻
Good Luck !
Thank you Kalifa for ask exactly what I was wondering myself, I am Brasilian, and I've been studing english for almost one year, and a Two months ago I started to learn Italian, For me a romancist speaker, Italian is really correlated to portuguese, But I was wondering myself "Italian can stuck my english? or Can I learn a new language without mixing them up?".
And Robin answered exactly what Luca Lampariello and Steve Kauffman says all the time, "You need to be focused and not get you in a trap, Enjoy this process!".
But of course in him point of view, Thanks Robin, excellent channel! one more subscriber!
As a fellow Brazilian who's learned 5 languages, I'd say you shouldn't worry that much. Keep consuming English content in your leisure time every now and then and focus on the new language that you want to learn. That said, I'd advise you to first reach a level high enough where active study isn't needed anymore, otherwise you'll be active studying two languages at the same time, which is really frustrating because, as you'd expect, progress is much slower.
Moreover, don't be afraid to "forget a language", such a thing doesn't happen. What can happen though is that you can get rusty at a language you haven't used much and that's completely normal, a quick conversation in that language and you'll be exciting those old neural pathways in no time.
Finally, do whatever you feel like doing. If you trap yourself into a particular language that you're learning, when that's not what you feel like doing, and force yourself to study it, you'll just be harming your own progress. You'll gradually lose motivation and achieve no results, until you ultimately give up learning the language altogether. No one is going to criticize you if you spend a few days or months learning Italian or some other language. Sometimes a fresh perspective is all we need to progress in the language, but that requires some time away from it.
@@chicoti3 Man ... Thank you very much for your motivacional comment.
I am good enough to have a active study and conversations in english, and now I can can correct myself in English, of course I am not perfect, but I can see when I'm doing something wrong. In Italian, I love their History, and your culture, and for me is a good way to acquire a new language.
Again bro, thank you for you comment and I will strive every day to become my best version. A Brazilian "Tamo Junto" for you. 👊😉
Getting to B2 in Mandarin considering both Simplified and Traditional character sets and different accents 😂😂😂
The only think I know it's I want to learn korean, thai, japanese and chinese and enjoy media in those languages but it will take long time haha and I don't have that patient x.x
Bro, love your videos!!! Do you have Instagram?
Ok
Just put the cup down... !
Hola, soy de Argentina. Mi experiencia con el ingles y el alemán fue que empece a adquirirlos (no a estudiarlos) a través de la música que escucho, estoy enamorada del ingles desde que tenia 12 años aproximadamente.
Soy capaz de entender, leer y pronunciar el idioma, siento que me falta muchísimo por aprender. Mi pregunta es, si es bueno adquirir solamente o si me convendría llevar un plan de estudio y practica? Que me recomiendas? Muchas gracias.
Hola, yo soy de Venezuela y he logrado aprender tanto Ingles como Italiano y me parece que estudiar los idiomas es muy importante para poder, no solo adquirirlos, si no evitar cometer los tipicos errores que se cometen cuando se desconocen las diferencias gramaticales que existen entre tu lengua nativa y la lengua que estas aprendiendo. Por ejemplo el tipico error de los hispanos de decir "People IS..." en lugar de "People ARE.." Eso sucede por desconocer que en Ingles a diferencia del español, "PEOPLE" es un sustantivo contable y por lo tanto usa los verbos en plural (En cambo en español "GENTE" es incontable y usa los vervos en singular) y asi hay mil ejemplos más. Saludos.
I want that cup
I basically abandoned my B2 German to learn Japanese. I purposely decided not to incorporate german in my life to give Japanese the best chance possible to take root. For many years. I thought that someday I’d use german again but I’m not. I think I need to take a trip to Germany to respark the love I had for the language and culture. After getting Japanese to a B2 I did decide to get another language so to speak but this time I’m making sure not to stop using Japanese. If that means Korean takes 10 years to get to B2 then that’s fine. 20 years? No problem. Never? Also ok. I’m not going to give up Japanese like I did German.
Who's the author of the "Tartine Bread" book on the bookshelf?
Chad Robertson.
@@PetraStaal Chad.....
What's happening with the app?
Almost there! 🤩☺️😄 Updates coming soon!
can you do a video in Spanish? I want to hear you speaking for 10-15 minutes :)
Why? That feels like a challenge to his Spanish... but 10 to 15 minutes? That's a freakin' long video (and I am accustomed to making long videos).
But he has a couple videos speaking spanish, if you do a review on him chanel, you can find it
Are you vegetarian? Being one's could be the solution for your acne for sure. A lot of gratitude: useful advises.
Ok but what does that have to do with language learning