Higher Ed Crisis: Ask Us Anything!
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Welcome to “The Ben & Marc Show”, featuring a16z co-founders Ben Horowitz and Marc Andreessen. In this latest episode -- the final in a 3 part series on the current crisis in higher education -- Marc and Ben answer YOUR questions from X (formerly Twitter).
In a one-on-one conversation, Ben and Marc unpack the merits of a Harvard undergrad education vs. a Thiel Fellowship, discuss the benefits of trade school, and determine what college is going to look like in ten years. That and much more! Please enjoy.
* Watch Part I: • Crisis in Higher Ed & ...
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Topics Covered:
00:00:00 - Teaser
00:00:47 - Introduction
00:01:52 - Q: Given that there are some presidential vacancies at notable universities, how would you select a new president?
00:11:50 - Q: Why do we still think that it takes four years to fully bake an undergraduate student?
00:23:43 - Q: How can we convince smart young people to consider trade schools?
00:34:05 - Q: If you were 18 again and had the choice between [1] Going to Harvard, [2] 1-1 private tutor, or [3] Thiel Fellowship, which would you choose?
00:45:07 - Q: As a new(ish) father, what the hell is this going to look like for my kids?
00:57:55 - 3 question cluster on AI's impact on education
01:11:14 - Q: Can you talk more about the shift from tenured professors to adjuncts and how this might be linked to grade inflation?
01:19:12 - Q: I've been told by the chancellor of a large university that the increase in tuition is a result of the increase in needs-based grants. If this is correct, are there any alternative models for student financial aid that can offset this outcome?
01:23:21 - Q: Can you please dig a little deeper into the endowments and how they are primarily utilized and earmarked by the university?
01:28:46 - Q: What is the proper role of trustees?
01:35:34 - Sign off
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Deep background: In the medieval university, in a world without the printing press, you went to university so you could copy the lectures, and thereby have your own book.
Would love to get thoughts on this idea:
Replace the grading system with knowledge graphs and skill trees. Students don't move on to the next node until they've proven aptitude on the prereq's. Aptitude tests, course work, and projects all go towards verfication of skills, student can also provide any other form of proof of skill. You can take the aptitude tests as many times as you want, but there is a hard pass/fail cutoff. One bad test no longer has horrible repercussions. Fear a bad grades is one of the worst parts of education and is a killer of curiosity. Goodbye grade inflation. The student that needed a few more months to understand core concepts is no longer left behind forever. The Einstein kid can breeze through aptitude tests and isn't stuck twiddling thumbs with the normies for years.
Part of reinforcement verification of skill can be through teaching the skill itself. Students teach other students to get 1:1 mentoring. Educators advertise based on number of students they have taught skills to. Higher ed competes on how much they can expand a students knowledge/skill tree. Employers become verifiers of higher ed's stamp of approval for skills. Employees can replace their resume with their skill/knowledge tree (and verification). Employers can now search for highly specialized skills. Or find people that have the capability to easily pick up new skills.
Nice, waterloo being mentioned! The coop program here in Canada is growing, lots of my friends who went to other universities went through similar programs. However, Waterloo's competitive edges now are the reputation, the network you get there (half my graduating class is in the bay area now) and the waterloo coop job board has many more and better job postings.
Awesome episode :DDDD
Ben and Marc show for the win.. also for every day that goes by im just more happy to be a world class futures trader and carpenter..
Haha, this is an epic comment. Keep winning buddy 💪🏼💯
Typing was one of the most useful classes I ever took. My father made me take it as a full year course because he had struggled so much typing his thesis. I still think kids should take it.
oh I love this. Finally a method in which we can truly put the Ed back in Edtech.
epic! Thank you
only 11000 views for conversation this impactful and this important from 2 very well read and well balanced and successful billionaires is crazy. thanks for taking time off your day to share such knowledge! that is amazing. just like th fact that Charlie Munger and Buffet took the time to (ghost)-write books of their knowledge and experience.
An interesting anecdote, if you go to a general car repair shop, and ask what cars the mechanics hate working on the most, nearly universally they'll say German cars. Conversely, the easiest are Japanese. So that makes me curious what are the differences in education systems as well as on the job training differences between those two countries.
German engineers will over engineer it. Where a bolt doesn't exist, create a whole industrial supply chain for one bolt and stick it under the engine. If a customer does something and it breaks, their support is "This is not how to use this tool and it operates in these parameters. Good day."
Japanese engineers will figure out how to make it work with the bare minimum parts. If its optional, its not there. Then they will go over it and throw idiots at their products. Everything the idiots figure out, they change the design so it wont happen. When an outside idiot comes up with better idiocy, "Here is how you fix this. Thanks time to change the whole thing."
@@xrunner55 that sounds brilliant 🔥
I’m in a programming class. I move quickly. It’s flipped classroom, group-based and I’ve gotten behavioural penalizations for not staying behind with my group. Capping speed is incredibly frustrating.
what is your skincare routine
31:43 People on Extremestan have no use for university. They learn faster and they do more outside of the university system as the most extreme success cases show: Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, John Carmack, many others. Actually most technology "extremers" were dropouts. For these people spending 4 to 5 years in university would be a waste of precious time, once they figure out what they "have to" do, they will learn much faster by themselves. People who have these innate characteristics common in innovators and founders don't need university in this day and age, where information is widely available on the internet. University is really only good for mid management people, that is the right end of the Mediocrestan bell curve.
I have worked in blue collar skill job like been a manager of a large farm commercial truck driver equipment operator but I also founded My own start up went through techstars raised VC money and sold it then I work for a unicorn Agtech company as its division manager with a pay package so like 180k a year. I found that my family and friends that I was way higher status when I worked in tech then what I do now which is started an excavation business/truck driving and crop spraying in the summer summer. My purchasing power is actually higher now than it was when I worked in tech but it's seen as needed and good to be blue collar but it's just not the same status as being a white collar manager mostly due to it being more intellectual being white collar.
A bit of information, back in ancient times (1971) the faculty of Johns Hopkins gave president Lincoln Gordon a vote of no confidence (money was tight, he was cutting faculty and hiring administrators) and he resigned. Check Wikipedia.
The new Alexander Payne (director of sideways) movie The Holdovers touches on a lot of these themes
Marc are you ever going to tell Ben how to pronounce Illinois?
As a lecturer with 5 years experience totally agree. AI wil do a poor man's job if it will substitute University education.
In which a16z rediscovers the British public school.
Pretty sure Gavin Wood actually built the first version of Ethereum (from the book). Probably a better programmer.
Non-tenured faculty make up between 2/3 and 3/4 of university instructors, i.e. a large majority.
For what kind of institutions?
That would be all higher education institutions together; only 1/4 to 1/3 of current university instructors are tenured or tenure track. That Marc claims "there are not that many adjuncts" reveals a staggering level ignorance.
@@williambanks6624 anecdotally I can say for the "top ranking" research universities, most classes are led by tenured track professors
and because they are such a pull of world talent, like the US is for global workforce, Marc's discussion naturally revolves around them
@@williambanks6624 im curoious where you got these numbers. i'm having trouble finding them online.
marc should ask himself if he would be where he is today if he'd had a private tutor. highest status outcome my ass.
Its time to reconsider the value of Universities. Among the new idea is to discontinue the federal funding and focus on propaganda
Kids of the rich will have teachers. The poor will be chained to a computer. I would like to hear Marc's thoughts on sex segregated early education.
awww poor them. first world problems.
Its also high status because your wealthy parent kids are probably never going to apply for a W2 job and be graded by an anonymous HR department 😂
I appreciate your take, but you don't seem to consider the concept of public good. While there are certainly public bads that are byproducts of our current model, we must not destroy what was a crown jewel of our culture. Was America a better place because Jefferson learned to read ancient philosophers in their original language?
A withdrawal of federal funding should be a day 1 task for the next Republican president
You hit it with one investment, facebook, and now you two get to try to inspire change in our society and become celebrities? but you disabled the dislike button through the optional plugin for returning dislikes to youtube???? HOW FRAGILE ARE THESE CAPITALISTS????????
These guys only ride. Never walk. Ask David Chapelle
Can you explain what you mean by that?
Great interview, expecially the Harvard, Thiel, Waterloo comparison We build bridges between Gen Z AI talent and AI companies via JeezAI. Hopefully one day, partnered with a16z :)