The Heads Of The EXECUTED King And Queen Of France

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  • @edr.3229
    @edr.3229 Před 11 měsíci +372

    Funny thing is that (Maximillion Robespierre) the biggest trouble maker who pushed for all the executions met the same fate about a year later.👍👍👍

    • @donsarde
      @donsarde Před 11 měsíci

      The plebeian psydo Duke paid the just price ,he murdered hundreds of his own people.

    • @hectorfleed7
      @hectorfleed7 Před 10 měsíci +28

      He wasn't precisely the biggest troublemaker. Marat , Hebert and many other were far worse . History gave him that reputation but if we study the events more in details...

    • @benoitpisarchick6866
      @benoitpisarchick6866 Před 10 měsíci

      well deserved for this scumbag

    • @whoaitstiger
      @whoaitstiger Před 10 měsíci +15

      @@hectorfleed7 Amongst the top echelon Saint-Just and Marat were the most bloodthirsty by a country mile in my opinion.

    • @hectorfleed7
      @hectorfleed7 Před 10 měsíci +12

      @@whoaitstiger you can add Jean-Baptiste Carrier in Nantes, also Fouquier-Tinville ( that liar told he was obeying Robesspierre orders but the same day of Robesspierre's fall he didn't stop the execution of 50 persons and he knew the last news in the Convention) and Fouché the Lyon's Butcher . The last one didn't pay for his crimes even if he had to leave France during thr Restauration for voting King's death.

  • @richardw3470
    @richardw3470 Před rokem +506

    It wasn't just supporters of the monarchy who lost their heads. The revolutionaries wound up killing many innocents and then their own.

    • @jsi4064
      @jsi4064 Před rokem +40

      They usually do

    • @joyplummeridge6940
      @joyplummeridge6940 Před rokem +65

      Yes, ordinary people were executed simply for referring to others as Madame or Monsieur instead of Citizen.

    • @jamesthefirst8790
      @jamesthefirst8790 Před 11 měsíci +69

      Even Robespierre was decapitated... The "Reign of Terror" started and ended with him.

    • @igibon8
      @igibon8 Před 11 měsíci

      @@joyplummeridge6940
      Imagine the scale of execution in Cambodia after communists took over. This is much fewer numbers.

    • @XX-sp3tt
      @XX-sp3tt Před 8 měsíci

      @@jamesthefirst8790 Then came the backwash of the White Terror.

  • @pleiades.puppets
    @pleiades.puppets Před rokem +354

    I always found it interesting that Louis was sent to the scaffold in a carriage, whereas Marie was taken in a cart.

  • @vollhov2370
    @vollhov2370 Před rokem +386

    I feel I will soon get tired of leaving a true story about her under every video about Marie-Antoinette.
    All expenses of the queen, for the entire period of reign - about 7 million. livres (Napoleon's wife, Josephine, spent 6 million on herself PER YEAR!)
    Of these, about 3 million were spent on various outfits and entertainment, and other "Trianons". AND 3.2 MILLION LIVERS WAS SPENT ON CHARITY.
    For reference: the budget deficit of France, in 1789, was about 300 million livres.
    How much the queen was guilty of this shortage is easy to calculate ...
    Home "Antoinette's feature:
    The queen did not love cakes, and not even outfits. She loved children.
    Throughout France, with the money of the queen, orphanages and prototypes of the Children's Homes were opened (by the way, during the revolution, many of these shelters were closed, and children were simply thrown out into the street, into street children)
    The queen herself had several adopted children who were brought up on an equal footing with her relatives, as well as many scholarship holders, to whom she paid for education. She gave dowries to the girls.
    In the hungry winter of 1787, the queen not only gave all her personal savings to the parishes of Paris to help poor children (500 thousand livres), but also gutted the piggy bank of children (70 thousand livres), persuading them to refuse new outfits and gifts ...
    Philippe Huisman et Marguerite Jallut "Marie-Antoinette, le imposible bonheur"
    I beg you to stop taking information only from Wikipedia, or at least go to the French Wikipedia and take information there.

    • @fritzbasset8645
      @fritzbasset8645 Před rokem

      Murdering Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette accomplished as much as murdering Nicholas II and his family in Russia: nothing or less than nothing, as worse folk came to take the reins of government (Reign of Terror - War Communism, anyone?) and more people suffered in the long run - in Russia, far more. Most revolutions weren't like the one on the North American continent.

    • @jsi4064
      @jsi4064 Před rokem

      Thank you.
      Great women are always heralded in HIS-story as demons. They turned Mary Magdalene into a whore. And call womens history, or HER-story 'hersery'.

    • @jannydots3870
      @jannydots3870 Před rokem +49

      Very well said. Wikipedia or whatever it is called, is the worst place for information

    • @vollhov2370
      @vollhov2370 Před rokem +32

      @@jannydots3870 The French Wikipedia has the most information, but I still advise you to read Philippe Huisman et Marguerite Jallut, as well as the mimoirs of Jeanne Louise Henriette Campan, who was closest to the queen.

    • @billieford9683
      @billieford9683 Před 11 měsíci +32

      Finally someone who has read and knows history

  • @catholiccrusader5328
    @catholiccrusader5328 Před rokem +165

    It is ironic that Madame Tussaud nearly missed being guillotined herself! She was spared at the last minute.

    • @donsarde
      @donsarde Před 10 měsíci +12

      I believe that madame Tussaud was in exile in London shortly after the Queen's death ?

    • @ML-eq6ll
      @ML-eq6ll Před 8 měsíci +12

      I have never seen that funny sticker before. What is it? Only for IPhone users?

    • @raisa_cherry33
      @raisa_cherry33 Před 5 měsíci +2

      👀

    • @kaidanalenko5222
      @kaidanalenko5222 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@ML-eq6llno it is on PC

  • @MamaOfTwo
    @MamaOfTwo Před rokem +242

    I have always loved this period of history but I fully believe the lavish lifestyles of those that ruled before these two played a very, very large role in the revolution and execution of these two. They were only products of their environments and at the end of the day most of the problems they faced were inherited and I feel so bad for the way their stories ended.

    • @cplmpcocptcl6306
      @cplmpcocptcl6306 Před rokem +22

      Very well said.

    • @saudu-seuziramazanow7146
      @saudu-seuziramazanow7146 Před rokem +19

      In modern feodalism you don't see similar lavish lifestyle in one side and poverty slave work in other side? Nothing essential change since long period

    • @trawlins396
      @trawlins396 Před 11 měsíci +10

      What a juvenile and simplistic way to look at the situation. 🤦‍♀️

    • @trawlins396
      @trawlins396 Před 11 měsíci +9

      MA was not simply a "product of her environment". She frivolously spent way too much with no regard for her subjects. SHE did that. She's not blameless.

    • @MamaOfTwo
      @MamaOfTwo Před 11 měsíci +30

      @@trawlins396 not once did I say either of them were blameless but the monarchs before them did the same thing so…. I respect your comment but also disagree as there were many many years of monarchs frivolously spending with no regard for their subjects long before these two even thought of touching that throne. I also think you need to work on your wording or your respect for others just to toss that out there. Have a wonderful day!

  • @paulblack5883
    @paulblack5883 Před 11 měsíci +78

    The French revolution had untold numbers of people executed..pretty dark times

    • @cynhains
      @cynhains Před 11 měsíci +5

      america needs a revolution likes this

    • @PaulAngileri
      @PaulAngileri Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@cynhainsNo it doesn’t, Fascist.

    • @Music.cigars.2024
      @Music.cigars.2024 Před 3 měsíci

      @@PaulAngileriwell at this point some sort of action is needed

    • @PaulAngileri
      @PaulAngileri Před 3 měsíci

      @@Music.cigars.2024 Yes, but the people in the US typically talking about needing a revolution that involves executions have zero interest in restoring democracy, good governance, improving the judicial system, or generally reforming anything that helps everyone who isn’t a middle class+ white papers-carrying Christian Republican. Revolutions can be accomplished without slaughtering people on fabricated charges because a minority of voters have rage fantasies about crimes they can’t define.

    • @nabuyabrenner5584
      @nabuyabrenner5584 Před 8 dny

      I believe so not so much clued up with their history just did the basics on school and read the book Tale of Two Cities.

  • @mygreatescape9617
    @mygreatescape9617 Před rokem +81

    It was NOT Marie Antoinette's fault for any of the peoples low income problems, the French helped us, Americans with the revolution against Britain etc.

    • @marrtenvan338
      @marrtenvan338 Před rokem

      the aristocracy accumulated wealth and spent it -- a revolution was inevitable

    • @vollhov2370
      @vollhov2370 Před rokem +9

      Nor did you help the King and Queen!!!
      The question is, did the United States repay the loans of those years?

    • @mygreatescape9617
      @mygreatescape9617 Před rokem +5

      @@vollhov2370 honestly I don't know if we did or not, I've never gotten that far into Marie Antoinette and Louis and again it's not our fault either, it's what the French did not us, yes we asked for help but by the time the French arrived the war was almost over.

    • @danwilliams4096
      @danwilliams4096 Před rokem +19

      @@vollhov2370 Deduct the cost of support for the American Revolution from WW1 and WW2

    • @trawlins396
      @trawlins396 Před 11 měsíci +6

      ​@@mygreatescape9617of course it wasn't her "fault" but she didnt try to help her subjects. That's the problem!

  • @pimpompoom93726
    @pimpompoom93726 Před rokem +53

    The Monarchy was an outdated institution by the 1790's, but the mob violence perpetrated on the Royal Family was utterly appalling. They may have been naive and uninformed about the suffering of the peasants, but a lot of that was institutional. Anyone who has toured Versailles and the 'layers' you had to go through to visit the King and Queen can understand how isolated they were. The Monarchy was rightfully deposed, but their murders were bestial and unwarranted. As for Madame Tussaud, her story of taking a wax death mask of the Queen and King is hard to believe-probably more myth than truth. But the caricatures are close facsimilies.

    • @QueekHeadtaker
      @QueekHeadtaker Před 10 měsíci +5

      lol, "Institutional" does not excuse their misdeeds. Glad to see justice done in France.

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@QueekHeadtaker So was Robespierre, until it was his turn. Mob justice is not justice, it only appeals to the lowest common denominator. You may take a bow.

    • @byus6928
      @byus6928 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@pimpompoom93726 "mob justice" isn't justice to you. get it right

    • @ehpaf
      @ehpaf Před 6 měsíci +1

      Effectivement, madame Tussaud n'a pas fait les masque mortuaire de Louis XVI et Marie Antoinette. Vous avez raison de le rappeler. Louis XVI avait pressenti le besoin de réformes et la nécessité de les appliquer rapidement. Malheureusement, la haute noblesse si opposait et, influencé, il se rangea de leur côté ce qui provoqua le renvoi de Necker. Il manquait certainement d'information sur les conditions du peuple mais je n'irais pas jusqu'à dire qu'il fut naïf. Faible, c'est certain. Rien a voir avec notre situation actuelle et notre président qui lui, est totalement déconnecté des réalités.

  • @kathyh4804
    @kathyh4804 Před rokem +101

    Excellent video!
    It never ceases to disgust me how evil people can be! Throughout history people would bring their families, lunches etc and watch peoples lives being taken! As in France, they carried white napkins to catch the blood of the executed! People can be so disgustingly evil

    • @DenaInWyo
      @DenaInWyo Před rokem +14

      Well, but...here you are? No blood to dip, but you're obviously interested in the heads of executed French kings and queens. I do indeed have a snack next to me while I watch this video. I think calling those people evil is a bit much. Good ol' human nature to be morbidly curious. There's also the idea that they may have felt they were watching justice being done and that was a good and moral thing. It's really hard to remove modern social norms from our opinion of people who lived 500 years ago.

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Před rokem +10

      @@DenaInWyo 230 years ago, not '500 years ago'. As for 'morbidly curious', ok fine. But Mob Justice which is what the executions of the King and Queen were is never a pretty site. As predictable, the Mob turned on it's own at the end and Robespierre and others ended up the last victims of the guillotine. The Reign of Terror may be a curiosity, but it was also a terrible time when many innocents lost their lives in a uncontrolled Mob rage-nothing to be proud of. And the morbid curiosity is expressed by those who didn't experience the terror, that says something to those astute enough to discern it.

    • @DenaInWyo
      @DenaInWyo Před rokem +5

      @@pimpompoom93726 That's an impressive display of your historical knowledge, but you appear to miss my point entirely. Of course the event addressed in the video wasn't 500 years ago. I was talking about the culture of watching executions as a whole, and your disdain of the practice. Calling the people having lunch at such events evil is an example of placing modern social norms on people that lived back then. They weren't evil. They were a product of their society in ways that you and I will never be able to understand, living as we do in this day and age. How many things do we do as a society that people 500 (yes I'll use that number again) years from now will think is barbaric? No way for us to know, because right now we think they're perfectly normal. My protest is you calling society at large in that age "disgustingly evil"..when really that's just what humans DID back then.

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Před 11 měsíci

      @@DenaInWyo I didn't suggest society at that time was especially evil, they displayed the same character flaws mankind has always had. We saw similar evil in the death camps of WW2 and the lynchings in the South USA in the early 20th century. This is why we have laws, because a society turned loose without constraints is very likely to turn to mob violence when confronted with problems. The Reign of Terror was Mob violence that was allowed and encouraged by the leaders at that time because they felt they could control it, that proved false-it got worse and worse and pretty soon was beyond the control of anyone. This was finally recognized by enough people and some semblance of order was eventually established, along with a sense of contrition by many French people who recognized they'd allowed their worst instincts to take over. The Reign of Terror was the populace of Paris allowed almost unrestrained barbarism, the folks most responsible were the top Republican leadership like Robespierre who promoted the violence and had no empathy with the victims. It was just desserts he finally was treated with the same ending he sent so many others to, IMO.

    • @shahrulamar5358
      @shahrulamar5358 Před 11 měsíci

      Louis was executed exactly 200 years before Bill Clinton took the oath as US President 🇺🇸

  • @shesaknitter
    @shesaknitter Před rokem +18

    Louis XVI was the last absolute monarch of France, but actually I think Louis-Philippe was the last monarch of France, though not an absolute one. Thank you.

    • @renaultellis6188
      @renaultellis6188 Před 10 měsíci +4

      All monarchs after Louis XVI were like lousy epilogues or failed sequels

    • @ErickHumboldt
      @ErickHumboldt Před 3 měsíci

      Louis-Philippe is not king of France but king of the french

  • @miavanauwelaer9530
    @miavanauwelaer9530 Před rokem +68

    It would be interesting if you would have showed us their death mask

    • @jenniferdonahue4895
      @jenniferdonahue4895 Před rokem +11

      I agree. She did show, but only for a second or two.

    • @animalyze7120
      @animalyze7120 Před rokem +8

      @@jenniferdonahue4895 Yep, Pause is a wonderful if unknown option to more impatient.

    • @animalyze7120
      @animalyze7120 Před rokem +4

      They were shown, at the very beginning and before each persons life history. Was it too hard to follow?

    • @BJones-yw4dd
      @BJones-yw4dd Před 11 měsíci +13

      @@animalyze7120 Thanks for the info, but a more polite / realistic consideration would have been that, in truth, plenty of people do NOT sit around and stare raptly at every second of YT videos, but are working as they listen.
      I, too, wondered at the seeming absence of the alleged photos, because every time I glanced up expecting to finally see what the narrator was explaining: Nada.
      So I appreciate you at least mentioning about where to look for the photos -- which are The Reason we all clicked on this in the first place.
      Time stamps: 1:22 for Marie Antoinette and 8:06 for the K Louis (note: like for Marie, no warning, just one photo (i.e. artist's rendering).
      I hope the makers of the video note that showing fewer historic drawings and paintings would allow them time to properly show viewers at length what their title promised us. One image each among hundreds of others seems a bit clickbait-y. However your audio presentation was indeed quite good. Much appreciated.

    • @mywifesboyfriend5558
      @mywifesboyfriend5558 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@benoitpisarchick6866Sounds like a threat. Reported.
      No replies will be seen

  • @doriannewton8440
    @doriannewton8440 Před rokem +104

    They murdered her. It's to their great shame.

    • @trawlins396
      @trawlins396 Před 11 měsíci

      They murdered the King too. Duh. And no one in France feels any shame today lol. Revolutions are messy. 🤷‍♀️

    • @jeanbartsammy4224
      @jeanbartsammy4224 Před 10 měsíci

      If she ever was « queen » of France she was a traitor as her letters clearly demonstrates

    • @fabs8498
      @fabs8498 Před 3 měsíci

      Like in Russia. They killed the royal familly to be sure they will never come again with the support of the rest of european monarchies, beginning of the napoleon wars to defend revolution and the country.

    • @leggoentertainment2947
      @leggoentertainment2947 Před měsícem +1

      Liberté, égalité, fraternité: _viva la France!_

  • @michaelwhisman
    @michaelwhisman Před 11 měsíci +17

    Throughout France many tombs and graves of royalty and nonles are empty. The bodies were removed and destroyed in various ways.

    • @donsarde
      @donsarde Před 10 měsíci

      And the Basilique St Denis was desecrated too.

  • @jimallison6125
    @jimallison6125 Před rokem +30

    Very shameful.

    • @189951
      @189951 Před 20 dny

      Honteux de guillotiner des profiteurs du peuple ou de les laisser mourir de faim ?

  • @boombasett6038
    @boombasett6038 Před 6 měsíci +8

    When the people have had enough, they've had enough. It can happen in the present day as well.

    • @WorthlessDeadEnd
      @WorthlessDeadEnd Před 5 měsíci

      Is that something you look forward to, stranger?

    • @gregmilliken9659
      @gregmilliken9659 Před 3 měsíci

      The World is again to the point where people have had enough.

  • @ericlee4455
    @ericlee4455 Před 10 měsíci +29

    This very condensed account of the French Revolution doesn't take into account that France , during Louis XVI , was actually enjoying the most prosperous times France had known up to that point in time compared to other nations. According to historical accounts, after the slaughter of the nobility of France during The Reign of Terror , France suffered a huge catastrophic collapse of it's economy. It took France quite some time to recover from the communist-like revolution that was known to have been fomented by an elitist group of mercantile classed wealthy men. It amounted to a huge power grab by getting the French common populace to get into a frenzy of mob mentality. This type of mob mentality fomented by disinformation and rumors can be seen all through out history, the Soviet Proletariat revolution, Cambodia, etc and their end results ... The truth is that there will always be inequality and poverty, but the real question is are the powerful good stewards, or are they truly unjust? Any system run amuck becomes a plutocracy, oligarchy. King Louis apparently loved his subjects a bit too much? He utterly refused to use military force against the revolution mob, even though his commander of the guard insisted on this as the mob entered his courtyard. Apparently, huge transitions were taking place, the beginning Republic. This opened the door for the beginning of Socialist Republics. And we know the rest of the bureaucratic tale!

    • @vollhov2370
      @vollhov2370 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Since when did the Jacobins and Girondins become Communists ? Even in Russia, at first the revolution was not Communist but Bourgeois, and then Bolshevik, and only then communism was established.

  • @catholiccrusader5328
    @catholiccrusader5328 Před rokem +21

    King Louis was basically a good man but the man should have known better. Surrounded by all those clerics at least one of them should have told him that his reign was a sad joke. His sin of omission caused his demise.

  • @Chuck0856
    @Chuck0856 Před rokem +8

    First you say he walked the breadth of the scaffold, yet later say he 'then left the carriage'. -- doesn't make sense.

  • @davidhabert
    @davidhabert Před 3 měsíci +2

    It's interesting that you mentioned that the royal couple tried to flee to Austrian Netherlands in 1791, this was known as the *Flight to Varennes.* The royal couple were arrested in the small town of Varennes-en-Argonne by the local postmaster Jean-Baptiste Drouet. He was alerted by a message from the neighbouring town of Sainte-Menehould when the royal couple stopped at the previous night and Louis tried to buy something at a shop. Louis was recognised by a merchant and then the merchant then alerted the authorities of there presence.
    Oddly enough, I know that region of France quite well because I have a lot of family who live in that area, from my mums side. Because of which, I'm half British and half French.

  • @atlantisrising100
    @atlantisrising100 Před rokem +33

    So what changed for the French after Nopelean made himself Emperor, more deaths more poverty, I don't think he did much better, he got himself booted to an Island.

    • @JonathanBresnihan77
      @JonathanBresnihan77 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Napoleon was arguably France's GREATEST ever leader and emperor who turned the country into a glorious empire that ruled the continent of Europe for over a decade.

  • @Invisibleplqnetsmusic
    @Invisibleplqnetsmusic Před 10 měsíci +35

    Poor Marie. She didnt deserve that end.

  • @michaelwhisman
    @michaelwhisman Před 11 měsíci +17

    I'm surprised that Austria allowed her to be killed. She was Austrian.

    • @gunterangel
      @gunterangel Před 11 měsíci +7

      Ironically it was just the failed attempt by the Austrian monarch, Leopold II., to bring his sister, Marie-Antoinette, and his brother in law, Louis XVI, back to reign again thru the threat of a military invasion of France by Austrian and allied armies, that would eventually speeded up the violent deaths of Marie Antoinette and the King of France.
      In the declaration of Pillnitz from August the 27th. 1791 Kaiser Leopold, King Friedrich Wilhelm II. of Prussia und Prince Karl de Artois, the brother of Ludwig's XVI., threatened France with a military intervention in case the French monarchy wouldn't be restored.
      This radicalized the girondistes even more, who were initionally in favor of a constitutional monarchy and wanted the King alive; and on April, the 20th.1792 France declared war on the Habsburgian empire.
      That would be the beginning of over 20 years of wars between France and the Habsburgian monarchy and its allies.
      And it led to even more hate of the French against their Austrian queen as now her image as traitor of France to Austria seemed completed and her fate finally sealed, as was her husband's.

    • @benoitpisarchick6866
      @benoitpisarchick6866 Před 10 měsíci

      @@gunterangel La honte et la damnation éternelle sur ces salopards de républicains, les mélenchons d'antan

    • @vollhov2370
      @vollhov2370 Před 2 měsíci

      @@gunterangel France declared war on Austria, not the other way around. Although Louis 16, after declaring war, used the veto a lot, and because of this they began to think that Marie Antoinette controlled him and began to call her Madame Veto.

    • @gunterangel
      @gunterangel Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@vollhov2370
      Where did I write otherwise ?
      Please, read my post again !
      I quote myself:
      "...and on April, the 20th.in 1792, France declared war on the Habsburgian empire."
      Kind regards !

    • @vollhov2370
      @vollhov2370 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@gunterangeloh I seem to have missed that.

  • @sephmanatac8569
    @sephmanatac8569 Před rokem +10

    Why is the nose of Marie Antoinette different from all of her painting portraits to her death wax face!?

    • @rafaelroma1657
      @rafaelroma1657 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Cuz of paintshop. The majority of paintings in the past don't reflect the reality. If many people "enhance" their photos today, why the rich wouldn't do that in the past as well?

    • @kandidole2487
      @kandidole2487 Před 7 měsíci +2

      It was the style of art in those days. Plump lips, wide eyes etc. She always said, none of her portraits actually looked like her.

    • @vollhov2370
      @vollhov2370 Před 2 měsíci

      he mask was made when Marie-Antoinette was an old woman due to illness and terrible conditions, and a person’s nose grows with age. In addition, it all depends on the master who made the mask; if you post in a museum, you will see that the masks are different.

  • @vollhov2370
    @vollhov2370 Před rokem +36

    According to legend, as soon as the guillotine knife touched her naked neck, all the roses in the gardens of the Louvre, Versailles, Tuileries and Saint-Cloud withered, as if mourning their queen.

    • @colinglen4505
      @colinglen4505 Před rokem +9

      Yeah, well that never happened.

    • @alancrisp1582
      @alancrisp1582 Před rokem +3

      ​@@colinglen4505🤫 Eat cake 🎂 !.....

    • @williamjavier1653
      @williamjavier1653 Před rokem +1

      Old folk story ....... beloved by some , hated by my many . Ironically sleeping her way to the Top coming from the bottom of Society she drew untold hate from the French Gentry.The poor though saw the dichotomy of the elite ruling over the masses and celebrated her.....

    • @vollhov2370
      @vollhov2370 Před rokem +12

      @@williamjavier1653 Not ordinary people killed her, but lies, gossip and intrigues of the Vesrals court. It was the Aristocrats who spread all sorts of terrible rumors about her, which later went to the common people, but not all the common people believed in these rumors. After these rumors were used by the revolutionaries in their propaganda, and those who were against her execution could not do anything because they were in fear of being in her place.

    • @cplmpcocptcl6306
      @cplmpcocptcl6306 Před rokem +9

      @@williamjavier1653 Who in the world are you talking about? Because the Queen came from a royal house, and she did not sleep around.

  • @ai3674
    @ai3674 Před 11 měsíci +15

    Sadly We know the truth and how shamelessly the King and Queen were treated after being arrested by the rabble! Both stayed dignified until the end. May they both rest in peace🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺

  • @donsarde
    @donsarde Před 10 měsíci +27

    Marie -Antoinette was also very ill, had cancer and was bleeding the day she was executed.

    • @joelledemonredon3386
      @joelledemonredon3386 Před 6 měsíci +5

      it may have been rather a fibrom : most female cancer doesn't bleed .Fibrom does

    • @vollhov2370
      @vollhov2370 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@joelledemonredon3386 If there was severe inflammation before the cancer, it bleeds. But judging by the fact that after the last birth in 1787, which was difficult for the Queen, she asked Louis that this was the last child and that he should not approach her again since she was feeling very bad. (Cancer has one symptom: when you want to make love, you do not get pleasure, but pain during the process).
      In addition, in the 18th century it was very difficult to establish an accurate diagnosis, but judging by how much her appearance had changed in recent years, it still looks most likely that it was cancer and already at the last stage. No matter how much stress you experience, without such a strong illness you will not turn into an old woman, and she turned into an old woman.

  • @NateButlerFresnoCA
    @NateButlerFresnoCA Před 8 měsíci +8

    Wait wait ... I just watched this whole video hoping for a good look at the promised heads. But you only showed the heads briefly, in split-screen, in the first 8 seconds, and ... that was it? Gosh.
    The historical information was all very nice and well-presented, but I still feel like I've been click-baited. Mind you, I'm not morbid -- I didn't come here looking for gore. But I did want to see what the legendary Madame Tussaud did with the heads ... and I feel like I wasn't shown that, like, at all.

  • @amsan7710
    @amsan7710 Před 14 dny

    Hi all
    Greetings from France
    Thanks a lot to all ones who restore the memory of His Majesty King Louis XVI and Her Gracious Majesty Queen Marie Antoinette.

  • @marsbearmcw3050
    @marsbearmcw3050 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Shame they don’t treat the current british Monarchy the same.

  • @BigBirdCEO
    @BigBirdCEO Před 11 měsíci +36

    I was shocked to find out I'm blood related to King Louis the sixteenth. A considerable relation, meaning we have an ancestor in common. My grandfather was Dutch, and I find it interesting that there is a Netherlands connection there. Very interesting indeed. I'm from the UK, so naturally thought it was from the UK that the connection existed, however, this may now not be the case.

    • @donpetazaragomatuta9988
      @donpetazaragomatuta9988 Před 11 měsíci +3

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @donpetazaragomatuta9988
      @donpetazaragomatuta9988 Před 11 měsíci +3

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @adb2165
      @adb2165 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Take revenge..find out who the bloodlines of those responsible for their execution.if you do this you will also be part of history and will always be remembered like your ancestors..your story can be a Netflix series in d future..

    • @Little-fl4jg
      @Little-fl4jg Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hahaha Nice Lie bud, louis the seventeeth was 10 years old.

    • @mgivens8844
      @mgivens8844 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Everyone has royal blood in their family.

  • @nightowlslounge
    @nightowlslounge Před 8 měsíci +41

    It’s so sad what they did to these two. They didn’t have to kill them. They could have exiled them. It’s so awful.

    • @Unbought
      @Unbought Před 7 měsíci +9

      It awful for others that have died in similar ways as well.

    • @nightowlslounge
      @nightowlslounge Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@Unbought yeah but aren’t we talking about this particular video? I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

    • @guyfawkes8384
      @guyfawkes8384 Před 7 měsíci

      Yes, they did have to kill them. The people were finished with Royals ruling over them and if they wanted to start a new country they would need to end any royal lineage to the throne that could come back and contest it.

    • @maryvandananker3562
      @maryvandananker3562 Před 7 měsíci

      Thats history an aweful memory of truth n justice.no body smiles to know what's happens when you piss ppl. Off.

    • @Mmjk_12
      @Mmjk_12 Před 7 měsíci

      not really, if they were exiled they would rile up domestic and foreign support and just be reinstated by the other european powers which is what happened anyway. What they and the monarchs did to their people was much worse. They got off easy...

  • @chrisanduncensoredjapan6627
    @chrisanduncensoredjapan6627 Před 11 měsíci +14

    As an 8 year old on my first visit to London, my uncle took me to Madame Tussaud’s. I insisted we go into the Chamber of Horrors.
    What I saw has stayed with me…(including a guillotine depiction) and wasn’t surpassed until I visited the atom bomb museum in Hiroshima.

    • @NintendoTransformer
      @NintendoTransformer Před 5 měsíci

      When I went there around that age I got scared so bad we had to leave lmao

  • @AlphonsodeBarbo
    @AlphonsodeBarbo Před rokem +23

    ...and the French have NEVER recovered!

    • @toulaeccles1119
      @toulaeccles1119 Před 11 měsíci

      Yeap! They lost a lot after they murdered their royals.

    • @janetannerevans2320
      @janetannerevans2320 Před 6 měsíci

      now it's too late. They have been invaded by the East.

  • @febinfrancis2441
    @febinfrancis2441 Před 11 měsíci +12

    It is not French Revolution but Fanatic revolution

    • @lebonnetdespatriotesnet
      @lebonnetdespatriotesnet Před 4 měsíci +2

      the jacobinist "illuminated" revolution.

    • @hectorfleed7
      @hectorfleed7 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@lebonnetdespatriotesnetI would say "Montagnards". Jacobins in fact never existed.

    • @lebonnetdespatriotesnet
      @lebonnetdespatriotesnet Před 3 měsíci

      @@hectorfleed7 whatever you call them. Jacobinism existed. Read Abbé Barruel.

    • @hectorfleed7
      @hectorfleed7 Před 3 měsíci

      @@lebonnetdespatriotesnet Le club des Jacobins existait oui, seulement tous les députés n'y étaient pas membres. Les Girondins y faisaient parti et on connait tous leur fin. Voilà pourquoi j'ai toujours trouvé ce concept de Jacobinisme troo vague.

    • @lebonnetdespatriotesnet
      @lebonnetdespatriotesnet Před 3 měsíci

      @@hectorfleed7 Oui, tous les députés n'étaient pas membre, cela n'empêche pas le jacobinisme d'avoir existé.

  • @joshuamartin8721
    @joshuamartin8721 Před 10 měsíci +12

    Marie is, like most women in history, blamed for things that she had no control over. I so wish that the world over would embrace these amazing women instead of villanize them. Vive la reina ❤

    • @stephenmorris9382
      @stephenmorris9382 Před 10 měsíci +1

      What was 'amazing' about her ?

    • @joshuamartin8721
      @joshuamartin8721 Před 10 měsíci +6

      She lived in a patriarchal society where a woman's role was limited. She was educated and wasn't use to the French way of life having come from her mother's court in Austria. Though given a poor label for being Austrian she did her best to fit in. She and her sister in law gave food to the poor, sought out education where they could and tried to be the best that they could be given their limited abilities. Imagine a world where all you do is limited bc of your gender identity, race, religion ,equal orientation, etc such is the case in our country. It is important to have people like Marie try to break through those barriers. Marie was the first to introduce a woman to the academy in France. Madam Elisabeth Vigee LeBron. While Marie may not have been able to openly preach women's liberation or helping orphans she was able to do what she could given her station and assigned gender. All I'm saying is that she gets a bum wrap which she doesn't deserve.

    • @jimakisspd
      @jimakisspd Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@joshuamartin8721 The question is however: did she actually give military information to the Austrians during the war in 1792?? If yes then she was rightly accused for treason by the Jacobins and thus sent to la guilotine. If not, then she is innocent and her execution was unfair, more symbolic rather than as a person!!

    • @joshuamartin8721
      @joshuamartin8721 Před 2 měsíci

      I think she was an easy scapegoat given her former nationality and familial ties she was a prime target for everything the republic was against. Now, it has been proven that she wrote her Austrian relations begging for help, because she, rightly feared what the revolutionary government would do to family and herself. She most likely would have had no knowledge of military movements even her husband, was kept in the dark about most matters of the revolutionary government. For a time he was granted veto power but then that too was stripped. The revolutionaries intentionally most matters, at best, vague with the former king. As marie was no longer queen she had no political rights, the only thing she became solely responsible for was the care of her children and trying to lift her husband's spirits if anything for the sake of their children. Thank you, for asking, I very rarely get to talk history. What are your thoughts on the matter?

  • @tjsogmc
    @tjsogmc Před 10 měsíci +8

    19 minute video and only one or two seconds of the death masks. Where are they now? Are they on display somewhere? Any modern photos?

    • @ThomasGilmore-fi6gb
      @ThomasGilmore-fi6gb Před 10 měsíci

      Everyone pads these vids with annoying intros and frequent recaps of what's already been said to pad them for extra length. An interesting thumbnail becomes 2 seconds of anticipated interesting info along with 19 plus mins. of clickbait padding. Seems like a case of desperate little money grubbing scum.

  • @belle.m
    @belle.m Před 11 měsíci +14

    Where are the death masks now? I would have liked to see them. Don’t get how you make a video about the masks but don’t show them or tell us what happened to them or where they are.

    • @gunterangel
      @gunterangel Před 11 měsíci +3

      Madame Tussaud had taken them with her troughout their life, and when she finally emigrated to England the masks would be the basis of her famous wax exhibition in London during the 19th. century.
      But out of growing protests from royalists and new piety concerns they were finally removed from the public exhibition and went to the archives of Tussaud's, where they still are stored today, hidden from the public view.

    • @WorthlessDeadEnd
      @WorthlessDeadEnd Před 5 měsíci

      @@gunterangel So what of the images in the thumbnail and beginning of this video? Are they just an artist's rendering?

    • @gunterangel
      @gunterangel Před 5 měsíci

      @@WorthlessDeadEnd
      Allegedly Madame Tussaud on both cases went to the graveyard, where the corpses of King Louis XVI. and also later his wife Marie Antoinette were about to be buried, and she was allowed to take plaster masks from their dismembered heads only hours after their execution.
      And then she created the wax models of the heads after these gips masks. Thus these wax models were actually absolutely naturalistic !
      Probably it was just this 1:1 gruesome naturalism of these wax models that led to the recent decision to ban them into the archive and never put them again on public display at Madame Tussaud's in London.
      And yes, the pictures in the thumbnail are in fact the actual masks. I once saw them in a TV documentary about Madame Tussaud's, where they have been taken from the vault and shown to the camera, but only very briefly.

  • @ericoberlies7537
    @ericoberlies7537 Před 11 měsíci +22

    Louis XVI wasn’t actually the last King of France. There would be Louis XVIII and Charles X (his brothers) after the Restoration, as well as Louis-Philippe (the Citizen King, a cousin).

    • @langedubonheur
      @langedubonheur Před 10 měsíci +4

      He Was the last "king of France"....but he Was the first "king of frenchs "...a little bit différent between the 2 concepts

    • @ericoberlies7537
      @ericoberlies7537 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@langedubonheur True.

    • @GreySwordsman-gy2qt
      @GreySwordsman-gy2qt Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@langedubonheurwait, while you're right about Louis XVI being the first king of the French, Charles the X was the last king of France and Navarre. You could make the argument Louis XVI was the last king of the ancien régime but his brother was the last titled king of France.

    • @bitspieces5668
      @bitspieces5668 Před 8 měsíci

      Yes but the last king before the Revolution

    • @ericoberlies7537
      @ericoberlies7537 Před 8 měsíci

      @@bitspieces5668 Did this specify?

  • @lilgeorge34
    @lilgeorge34 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The same is happing here now the poor are staving and the Royals and MPs are living in luxury.

  • @k8lyn87
    @k8lyn87 Před rokem +8

    This video was amazing, interesting from start to finish 👏 thank you so much for posting so many great videos!

  • @henkhemming6674
    @henkhemming6674 Před rokem +12

    you should have included images of the death masks

  • @yvettelyn66
    @yvettelyn66 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You can’t throw a lavish food party with bread.
    When the people you rule over are severely starving and poor.
    A huge slap in the face. Boasting over what you have in front of those who don’t.

  • @joseeallyn9950
    @joseeallyn9950 Před 11 měsíci +19

    Read Nancy Mitford's book. The lavish royal banquets at versailles were open to the public. The facts are not always as common gossip portrays. Marie Antoinette was a good and fond mother and wife.

  • @MartinHomeVideo
    @MartinHomeVideo Před rokem +9

    Society based on heartless brutality is damned from the start.
    Greetings to USA, Russia, China and others.

    • @alancrisp1582
      @alancrisp1582 Před rokem +3

      ​@@Alanik06😱😷 Yes and I say so ✌ too !.

    • @ARedMagicMarker
      @ARedMagicMarker Před 11 měsíci +2

      I agree. Those who fail to see will suffer the same fate. As they're ALL about that heartlessness and brutality. I guess it can't be bred out of some people.

    • @AlexanderTch
      @AlexanderTch Před 11 měsíci +1

      Your country does not have heartless brutality ?

    • @AlexanderTch
      @AlexanderTch Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@ARedMagicMarker Each man is product of society where he lives and educaiton. Brutal people awlays are products of brutal life in that society. So, if you want to change people and breed out brutality from people then change society to make it more human and kind

    • @janetannerevans2320
      @janetannerevans2320 Před 6 měsíci

      what others? Germany, Japan, Laos, Congo, Nigeria, Egypt, Iran, UK, Norwegians, some of those others???

  • @spazmonkey3815
    @spazmonkey3815 Před 7 měsíci +3

    You're not going to show me the heads that were casted?

  • @cheriem432
    @cheriem432 Před 7 měsíci +4

    If you, a British person, are going to talk about French people, please learn to pronounce their names and other french words properly. There are too many errors to list.

  • @brianscoffield584
    @brianscoffield584 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I know your voice and delivery. It has improved. Keep improving.

  • @edwardkornuszko4083
    @edwardkornuszko4083 Před rokem +10

    God restore the sacred Catholic Bourbon throne of France.

  • @TheOnlyCodara
    @TheOnlyCodara Před měsícem

    Fun fact, the Megadeth song A tout le monde is wrote about the speach that King louis xvi tried to make before his execution to try to show empathy for his people before his death

  • @jozephjacobs9758
    @jozephjacobs9758 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Famous phrase of the queen:Let them eat cake.

  • @TheJollyRogerPirate
    @TheJollyRogerPirate Před 8 měsíci +4

    It’s pronounced GEE-YUH-TEEN. The Ls are pronounced as a “y”. Just thought you should know :)

  • @rajichelliah1743
    @rajichelliah1743 Před rokem +20

    Both were victims of circumstances.

  • @louielouie22
    @louielouie22 Před rokem +8

    Did the French really outlaw beheadings in the late 1970s?? 😮

    • @alancrisp1582
      @alancrisp1582 Před rokem +4

      ​@@mikecollon100😢 Wow, you must be the life of any party Karen, talking like this !...NOT

    • @gunterangel
      @gunterangel Před 11 měsíci +5

      Yes, indeed!
      The very last execution with the guillotine was done in France as late as in September 1977.
      It was the last execution in Western Europe.
      Four years later, in october 1981, the death penalty was finally abolished in France.
      I'm old enough to still remember, when all this was in the news of the time period.

    • @sovafps6381
      @sovafps6381 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@gunterangel im a supporter of capital punishment in certain cases, but guillotine was barbaric imo
      Because its literally mutilation of human body

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning Před 11 měsíci +4

    Outstanding video and presentation.

  • @cfroi08
    @cfroi08 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Disgusting behavior fit for a disgusting government system we still have today.

  • @istoppedcaring6209
    @istoppedcaring6209 Před 6 měsíci +4

    symbolism matters, if your people starve you ought to both tighten your own belt and seek to alleviate some of their suffering.
    instead she just kept living her lavish lifestyle

  • @MrReiCap
    @MrReiCap Před 10 měsíci +2

    I've learned about the king's execution by playing AC Unity.

  • @araj4200
    @araj4200 Před 2 měsíci

    This is a very interesting video. I wish to correct you on the pronunciation of "Vive la République" -- it is "vive" in French with a silent 'e', not "viva" as in Spanish.

  • @georgeblackley6028
    @georgeblackley6028 Před 6 měsíci +1

    It will never be herstory, it will always be history.

  • @AmandathePandaBooks
    @AmandathePandaBooks Před 11 měsíci +5

    She was The foreigner. The ppl of france did not respect foreigners.

  • @RobertTaylor-sw7wj
    @RobertTaylor-sw7wj Před 10 měsíci +2

    How is that lot any different from the Royals in England??!!

  • @user-pq4hx6jh3o
    @user-pq4hx6jh3o Před 5 měsíci +1

    Its not the history , what happened is done . Regardless of wether the victims deserved it or not Its just hard to believe how many actually justify and rationalize a bloody gory stone age justice .

  • @terry63lee
    @terry63lee Před 11 měsíci +7

    is it interesting that the word "scapegoat" has a completely opposite meaning today than it had back in Biblical times?? the origin of the word is that the scapegoat was the goat that was let go free without blame into the woods. today scapegoat equals the same as sacrifice.

    • @terry63lee
      @terry63lee Před 11 měsíci

      scapegoat or 'scapegoat or escape goat

  • @dragonclaws9367
    @dragonclaws9367 Před 5 měsíci +1

    She never said let them eat cake. They hated her from the beginning. For nothing. See Volhov's comment.. Ask Benjamin Franklin what the French financed.

  • @tomperkins5657
    @tomperkins5657 Před 2 dny

    Did not know they had photography then.

  • @IDK_leavemealone-i3
    @IDK_leavemealone-i3 Před 3 měsíci

    K first of all why would you show a photo of a king and queens head after being cut off I can see the blood

  • @user-tp4zk1df4v
    @user-tp4zk1df4v Před 3 měsíci

    Article about casts of the heads of the king and queen. Where are the normal images of these masks? I would like to see it in detail

  • @nickcampbell5740
    @nickcampbell5740 Před 11 měsíci +3

    There is a lot of misinformation/myths within this video. Nice :-(

  • @TryTheBLT
    @TryTheBLT Před 8 měsíci +2

    As much as I love tales of history I always find it difficult to continue listening after the person has mispronounced several words. It's very off-putting. It happens too often on these kinds of channels. It makes me question how educated or well read they actually are.

  • @iangillman1528
    @iangillman1528 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Revolutions always consume their own. Remember Cambodia, Russia, for example.

  • @Kyle-uz1rp
    @Kyle-uz1rp Před 6 měsíci

    These monarchs were actually noble and did not deserve this at all.

  • @avginkel
    @avginkel Před 5 měsíci

    Quite a historical error you committed here. Louis XVI was NOT the last king of France. After his death, his younger brother the Duke of Provence became king in 1814 with the name Louis XVIII. Another brother succeeded him, becoming Charles X. This one was the last king of the Ancien Régime and was dethroned in the 1830 Revolution. After him came a nephew, Louis-Philippe, who reigned until the 1848 Revolution and became truly the LAST French king.

  • @rosyclown
    @rosyclown Před 6 měsíci +1

    Poor Louis and Antionette. They were kids. They helped us during the Americaan Revolution.

  • @paulgrandflickshow
    @paulgrandflickshow Před 5 měsíci +1

    But where is the head?

  • @Gremory_666
    @Gremory_666 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Her mouth and eyes where half opened after decapitation.

  • @js2749
    @js2749 Před 11 měsíci +1

    When they say ‘taken into custardy’ does it mean being dipped in custard?

    • @yourmom-ug9ot
      @yourmom-ug9ot Před 25 dny

      Thats truly a more gruesome fate than execution my friend!

  • @davidbutler9808
    @davidbutler9808 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Poor Antoinette, she was a “looker”. Unfortunately, she got tied up with a loser who wasnt perceptive enough to “see the writing on the wall” and “get out of Dodge”.

  • @rinzler9775
    @rinzler9775 Před 13 hodinami

    Perhaps we should add the treasonous king Charles to that collection.

  • @JosephJohn-fb9wx
    @JosephJohn-fb9wx Před 4 měsíci

    The Queen of France has enormous "soft power" and could have had an enormous impact on the crisis and she should have done. I cannot consider her an innocent victim of the chaos that ensued. There was much she could have and should have done even as a "first lady" of France. If nothing else she had great influence at court.

    • @GCFutrell
      @GCFutrell Před 3 měsíci

      Any political idea that she had her husband rebuffed, her she didn’t really have any political power and she did give money to charity

  • @Paul26525
    @Paul26525 Před 3 měsíci

    I once wondered why the cut the heads off of the King and Queen; after all they had already been deposed. What pissed off the French that much. Then I visited Versailles. It was all clear after that.

  • @gponce1717
    @gponce1717 Před 5 měsíci

    To think there must of been family hairlooms of the bloody rags of the last king of France.

  • @TheSaltydog07
    @TheSaltydog07 Před 6 měsíci

    Read up on Marie. She was not the monster she is reputed to be by people such as this narrator.
    Merci.

  • @piotrgrabowski5024
    @piotrgrabowski5024 Před 6 měsíci +1

    9:19 Louis XVI was NOT the last king of France.

  • @renaschlener4919
    @renaschlener4919 Před rokem +5

    Where was any discussion of what the death masks looked like?

  • @vranco
    @vranco Před rokem +1

    W O W it’s almost you were there . . . .

  • @derekcccp
    @derekcccp Před 6 měsíci

    The title of this mini documentary is misleading. At no point are we shown the heads as made from the plaster casts by Toussaud after the executions. The narrator even says, “here is the head “ for both the king and queen, and we see no such thing. Disappointing.

  • @deaconsmom2000
    @deaconsmom2000 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Furniture and parties? Maybe, but let's not forget the French financed the American Revolution. That probably wasn't a popular move, considering the French were in such a bad way. Thanks though.

  • @Marcfj
    @Marcfj Před 10 měsíci

    I was surprised to learn that Louis XVI and I are distant cousins.

  • @LindaMerchant-pm8vn
    @LindaMerchant-pm8vn Před 11 měsíci +1

    Reign of terror not only the sovereignty executed also nobles even revolutionaries common criminals

  • @larss337
    @larss337 Před 8 měsíci

    The queens head is shown with long hair. I'm quite sure that her hair was cut off before the execution. But maybe it was on purpose to make her head look nicer.

  • @SqueakyOojine
    @SqueakyOojine Před 10 dny

    Look at what happens to their nation after the monarchy ceased to existence.

  • @Scarcheeze
    @Scarcheeze Před 8 měsíci +1

    wow i never thought that french in the past are bloodthirsty croissants.

  • @Taisiya87
    @Taisiya87 Před rokem +7

    🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🙏

  • @Lepercurtidoo
    @Lepercurtidoo Před 7 měsíci +2

    What a waste of time clickbait ! Another channel to avoid ...

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yeap. I just downvote the videos, report the videos as misleading text, and then block the channels. After awhile it becomes second nature, and the content you did see in your feed becomes a lot better.

  • @2001Tavis
    @2001Tavis Před 10 měsíci +2

    ALLLL ELITES!!!! FEAR THE WORLD 🌎 IS COMING... REVOLUTION ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

  • @ruggiero541
    @ruggiero541 Před 3 měsíci

    Things like this will happen in America before long.

  • @clairebreuleux2928
    @clairebreuleux2928 Před 3 měsíci +1

    We haven't seen much of the masks.

  • @davidemmet7343
    @davidemmet7343 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Today the royals, the billionaires and the Jacobins are one in the same.

  • @BLiNd_ize
    @BLiNd_ize Před 6 měsíci

    If you've ever been to the Palace of Versailles, you'd understand exactly why disparate peoples of the era mangled these sycophants!