Lewis Hamilton & Mercedes 'Not Accepting Reality'
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I have been saying that Mercedes was doing the different setups for Lewis Hamilton, as a means to test the chasis and aero to get a handle on that new 2024 chasis. It turns out likely that Lewis Hamilton has been freelancing and doing his own setup experimentation. Still, if Mercedes has no clue why they are slow, what purpose would Hamilton serve other than merely a driver in a crap car? I don't blame Lewis Hamilton for doing what he is doing. If your team has no clue, then you try to find your own answers then give that info to the team. All in all, what I've been saying is exactly what's been happening. The difference is that Mercedes are unlikely the ones making such changes, rather it's Lewis doing it to find speed.
I don't know if this is good or bad. You can genuinely argue for both yes and no. But not every driver is as good as Niki Lauda with car setups.
Your upload schedule is unmatched
I'm sure the newborn deserves some credit as well đ¶
I think bro reads an article and tells his wife, " honey I'll be back in 30min, have to go up the ladder"
I feel like Mercedes already kinda accepted they're not back to the top until maybe 2026.
They do like to say "Our car sucks" quite a lot though.
They do like to say that, but I feel their attitude still doesn't match their reality
Must be so demoralising for the guys back at Brackley
As someone with a fully adjusted suspension system I can say messing with anything from camber to caster to ride height can drastically alter your drivability. Once he ran so well in the sprint he shouldnât have changed anything.
I donât really buy the whole âwe changed the set upâ excuse. The Mercedes has shown to be incredibly sensitive to temperature. Almost any time the car is out on a colder track, with colder air temp, the car works much better. This explains why it did so well in the Sprint Quali and Race. It then lost performance in regular quali, and his lock up in 14 meant he lost 6th tenths to Russel.
Simply put, it makes much more sense to be a wind direction change and driver error that caused him to fall out in Q1, not a set up change after their best result.
@@joshuafleckenstein351 I hear you but I can only take the information they say and process that. Itâs on them if they canât be honest about their true issues.
@@underSTATEDexcellence thatâs fair, Iâm just always skeptical of Mercedes because Toto has made it very clear he tries to protect Mercedesâ image and value as he is a shareholder. And Hamilton works in his own self interest, as any driver would, so itâs easier to blame a set up change than a lock up.
@@joshuafleckenstein351 very true.
I like how your voice becomes more British as you start reading quotes đ
I also love the ahem, I started doing it in real life on some occasions
Itâs indicative of their struggle⊠with reality.
You left out the fact that Jenson got the upgrades that weekend and Lewis didn't. That's what Lewis was really mad about because he had the real shot at the championship.
Yet Jenson still called the worst McLaren he had driven to date
Jenson never improved a team he was driving for
Never wouldâve been champion either. The guy was a really good driver but not a champion he is the definition of lucky
Always look forward to your videos mate, love to sit down and listen to you as a break from studies. Cheers and Thanks!
Everyone needs to recognize that every driver has different driving styles. Max wins because he is able to get on the accelerator miliseconds sooner than other drivers. This amounts to tenths of a second per lap, over the course of the race his lead is ten+ seconds. In order for Max to do this, the car setup must be how Max likes it, so he has maximum grip at the point he hits the accelerator. A wrong setup means the back end gets loose and slides out, causing a spin, or that the understeer makes the car unable to turn into the corner in the way required by Max to get on the accelerator as quick as he wants. Either way, it means Max would be slower. Knowing the purpose of driver setups is important. The setup is designed for a given driver so their driving style can get the most out of the car.
Max DECIDES HIS OWN SET UPâŠ. he is into the details each sessionâŠ
@@Redlingstein Right, because Max knows how the car needs to handle for him be the quickest. Lewis seems to be fishing for a setup that will work for him to do the same with his car. This video makes it seem like Lewis is some lone person working outside the team, but he's just trying to find a setup he likes to get better finishes. The narrative way this video frames Lewis' "rogue" setups is completely silly to me. All because Toto mentioned something about it.
The difference between Max and Lewis makes sense when you realise that there is no such thing as the perfect setup, everything is a compromise. Using your example, getting a car to squat under throttle to gain low speed traction means you also have push on understeer as a consequence. That is where adaptability comes in. Lewis doesn't have the adaptability of a Max or Fernando. Give Max or Fernando a car that 80% there and they'll still drive it to 98% of its capability, but Lewis needs a 95% car just to feel comfortable
@@davestopforth True that.
Russell consistently gets more out the car. Engineers maths should be able to adjust Lewis preferred settings to this yearâs car. OrâŠLewis canât adjust to the car and get the performance out of it.
Have you watched, "Ex-Mercedes F1 Boss Reveals The Most Talented Driver". James talks about how Lewis wanders off of his baseline time and time again trying to find his setup. In doing so with a car they don't fully understand, you can end up p1 after fp1 or fp2 and then be trash in qualifying.
Goes back to the car not having a consistent response, and could contribute to his feedback being misaligned to whatâs actually happening. He might think it needs different brake bias, but changing that upsets aero and gives the opposite end effect. The car is like spaghetti code.
Russel is managing it way better. Lewis is weak in setting up cars.
His unwillingness to accept where the car is has become a burden for him tbh. Constantly messing around with the car, hoping to find something more that simply isn't there. It's worked in the past, the only difference is those cars were good, this one is not. It's definitely a winner's mentality of not wanting to accept the bare minimum but I think in this case, he has to take the car for what it is.
I think it was Canada 2022 when he stopped the experiments with the w13 and he finally started having smoother weekends and seeing results. I think he'll come to that conclusion once again regarding the w15. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
If he left the car 'as is', you'd probably complain he has no technical ability to change/improve the car. People always moving goalposts đ
Law with his words smoother than Sainz's operation
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They did listen to Lewis this year... He got the chassis he wanted with the cockpit moved aft... He got the changes made to suspension... He himself said its the worst season start ever... Lewis is a driver, he should drive.
Lewis isnt an engineer. He can only tell the engineers whats wrong, the engineers need to know how to make it work, I dont think his engineers know what theyre doing.
@@nissan300ztt Totally, it cannot possibly be that Hamilton does not have the vocabulary to tell them, it must be those pesky engineers with a decade of education and even more years of experience actually doing the job no, the diva who cries as much as he drives must be the victim in all things right?
@@TheEnigmaOfEvil So I am an engineer. I was an Engineer for Marussia F1. Not a race Engineer but still an Engineer. Just because someone has an engineering degree doesnt mean they know what theyre doing. I know work in the Aerospace industry and design parts for SpaceX and NASA. The wording means nothing because if youre an effective engineer youll clarify and repeat the customers request. Sorry but in this case the Engineers agreed they were wrong last year.
They changed the car because it was a steaming turd of a race car
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Thereâs so much I want to say about all this that will just get shot down in typical âdonât write about Lewis Hamilton on the internetâ fashion. Iâll shorten it to âwhen the car isnât dominant, Hamilton isnât at his bestâ. Right now, the Mercedes isnât dominant, and thatâs where Hamilton has been since the end of 2021. Itâs not the first time this has happened in his career. The 2009 McLaren A-Spec was a dogâs breakfast, until they built a whole new B-Spec for Hungary and suddenly Hamilton did well. Thereâs a lot of reliance on the car being perfect for Hamilton to be at his best.
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@@Dre_The_Millennial Iâm used to it by now. No matter how factual your arguments are when you talk about it, people just assume youâre commenting out of spite.
That is quite true, he needs a car that handles decently well and then he can make wonders, I donât even think it needs to be very fast but needs to handle well especially in the rear and then he can be really quick, every time his car has been feeling good the past 3 years he has delivered amazing results even if the car by itself was a but less competitive then the ones around (Spain, Hungary, Dutch, Austin, Brazil, Mexico 2022 and Hungary, Australia, Austin, Canada, Spain 2023) and then lose competitiveness as soon as the car felt bad while Russel is more consistent
I think that the problem is people like you don't like push back. I am a Hamilton fan, and I can agree he's not at his best at this moment, but he put the car in P2 in the rain. The car is crap, and I'm the clutch he delivered. Last year the car was not dominant and he almost took P2 from a RedBull. Outscored everyone not in a RedBull. What frustrates us is that you all will ignore the entire 2023 season to make a point about this year.... Where he put the car on P2 quali when the rain evened the field. That just smells of being a hater. Not saying you are, but damn, what driver doesn't need a good car to be good? Schumacher, Prost, Vettel? Name one that didn't. Again he took a tractor to P3 6 months ago, and you all just ignore it to say he isn't good. That is frustrating. But it's a free country, so say what you gotta say, just wanted to add perspective
@@indogen2198 I agree. Thereâs a lot more I could say but itâs clear that Russellâs days of driving poor cars have prepared him better for a bad Mercedes now, whereas Hamiltonâs life of great cars has left him a bit perplexed how to get it to work for him when it isnât.
Great video
As a mercedes fan and enjoying your content, i always like your videos about merc, for the good and the bad things happening for the team, sadly i dont think Lewis will know a last successful race with mercedes this year, i hope am wrong.
Wait until Leclerc pummels him next year and the media asks the inevitable question about him being a worse driver than Carlos Sainz at the moment.
@@AlexBarbu at the time, the same was said about Vettel and Leclerc. We all know how it ended. China's sprint had the odds of rain in quali where Hamilton showed how good he is in driving on the wet and low temperatures made Mercedes perform better. On Sunday reality hit back.
@@satanswolf Note that it is easier to drive in the rain when you're slow as hell
Hard to believe Ferrari fired the only driver to win races for them in the last 2 year though
@@TheEnigmaOfEvil Rain hides the flaws of a car as you drive slower, but you need to know how to drive it
Lewis and his setup changes. He's been giving that excuse now for over 2 years and the car doesn't get any better. Maybe stop experimenting?? Like, finish 2nd in a sprint, be unhappy and experiment, then qualify 18th to finish 9th, do you actually know what you're doing with the setup? As a 7 times champ I assume so, but he's not showing it right now.
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You had me at "and Nico Rosberg was in the commentary box" đ€Ł
Can you talk about McLaren arrow dropping David due to that injury, I know itâs not F1 but if you had a pattern /members I would love that
Another great video as always @LawVS
This is a really, really interesting take on the situation. Bravo.
Man i never knew i needed the loft guy in my life! Love it
If you remember, before the turbo hybrid era began, Mercedes was a mid pack team. It was only because they had a jump on the engine they were so good at the start. Now, they are falling back to be a mid pack team again. I just believe it's history correcting itself.
Also, they had the money to build a new car for each track and could run their wind tunnel constantly.
â@@AlexBarbufunny you say that because people seem to discredit this by saying the only good thing about the Mercedes was the engine
It's the massive difference between Hamilton and Alonso as drivers.
In short:
When they have great cars, they both are beasts. Impossible to say who is better.
When the car is bad, Alonso fights it and makes it better than it actually is. Hamilton however looses motivation and makes the car slower than it actually is
đŻ agree
It is clear who is better, by 2008 Lewis had won more wet races.
@@afallenworld1581 fascinating metric buddy. Totally not selective and biased...
@@tilltronje1623 Selective metric, how about we measure them when they were teammates.
Alonso needed the two of the biggest miracle in F1 in the last race to catch a 17 point deficit despite being supported as the number 1 driver.
Any honest analysis would arrive at the same result, You could divide Lewis career into three and still come back to the same result. Lewis far superior to Alonso.
You lots hate honest pushback
@@afallenworld1581 it is truly fascinating. Law makes a great and honest video about Hamilton, I make an honest and fair comparison of driver strenghts and weaknesses and yet still an enraged obsessive fan with no to contribute barges in and starts insulting people
I have had so many conversations with myself at the top of the loft stairs,
2:24 You must be on about the one and only Sir Lance
Just watch out for the #TeamLH responses. Anyone who has said exactly what youre saying about Lewis' performances (ive been saying this for years and have had threats and all sorts of crazy claims) get jumped on by the community over there.
TeamLH refuse to look at facts and data. They refuse to listen to anything negative about Lewis because "He Is A sEvEn TiMe WoRlD cHaMp. He Is ThE gOaT". Now people are comparing the end of his Mclaren stint and the end of his Merc stint its only due course for TeamLH to start shouting from the rooftops about how everyone is wrong.
Its easy to see Lewis hasn't been the one to put whats in place to make a car perform. Mercedes knew what they were doing all the while and Lewis just had to get in a car and drive. The second he has to "experiment" he gets it all wrong.
Bet I feel like u a hater an a rcism cuz ol boy be black.
I agree with everything you just said
What's the data?
I saw a interview with jenson they were talking the telemetry post saga days. Button said it wasn't such a big deal because lulu posted his date vs. the sim data not vs jensons. I don't know if its true i wasn't around then, but i can't think he would say that on a podcast if not true. I cant remember the exact episode but it was about a year ago on sky, maybe pre season talk was the main subject, there were 4 people on the screen. For anyone wants to look for it.
Your analogy is very good, you have said what many have not dared to say on Lewis's car set up/understanding due to being persecuted by the masses . His knowledge It is not matched to his outright speed ability.
Yeah it does seem they are looking for the magic bullet, one thing that puts it back at the top, rather than get a baseline and get a tenth back at a time by fiddling around the edges.
00:35 Moth Bercedes is my favorite podracer
Hamilton and Mercedes was a match made in heaven that I thought would stick together until Hamilton retires. There are certain things that become obvious now that Mercedes aren't running away with all titles though.
Hamilton is and has always been a great driver. Give him a strong car, he will deliver. That's how he won seven world championships and kept his teammates in check for the vast majority of his F1 career. Unfortunately, he never seems to get the hang of a car that doesn't do that. If the car doesn't deliver, he will not overdrive it. However, with Mercedes having turned from absolute rockstars to headless chickens, seeking the responsibility with Hamilton to fix their issues is not the right approach either way.
I certainly hope Hamilton has a good final stint at Ferrari before retiring and I also hope Mercedes can get back on their feet. Maybe no longer having Hamilton in one of their cars is a new chance for them, with a concept that better suits whoever is following in Hamilton's giant footsteps.
He is not a great driver. Never was. Stop dreaming.
Agreed! I've said it for years that Hamilton is no doubt great but if the car isn't quite there he doesn't have the kind of personality to wrestle the wheels off it to get a result. If you want a driver to do that kind of thing you employ Alonso.
Hamilton's greatest skill is his ability to drive with incredible consistency, without pushing over the limits and losing it or ruining his tyres. He's a master of driving at 99.5% of the limit (Much like Schumacher was). If the car is good there's no one better but if it's bad his head can drop and that's when his teammates can come through and look pretty good against him.
ââ@@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT Yeah always on podium since he start in Motorsport, and was fighting for P3 in the championship few months ago. Yes you're right he's not a great driver.
In Lewis' words "loyalty has its limits". Merc refused to give Lewis a 2+1 contract and an Ambassador role. And the engineers wouldnt believe Lewis when he said the car wasnt right.
@@AlexBarbuYouâre not the only oneâŠ
Lewis talked crap for years saying he knows how to set up a car and no one will listen. Well they let him set up the car and it was a clown show
18:00 I wouldn't be surprised if Lewis' energy availability for Mercedes is at 70%. Just attend the meetings and drive.
It reminds me of the various charaters you see when people get fired. You have people who, like Vettel, support the team so they leave it in a good position. While you also have people who block off their entire agenda, complain, and just let the team drop. And the terrible thing is that both are justified. What if Toto released that news too early but out of emotional betrayal? If that's the case, Toto really played himself - and the team.
True. Seb was done dirty but he didn't take it out on the crew.
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Great champions are not supposed to get complacent. I feel like that's what happened to Mercedes AMG as a Formula One team, and what has happened to Lewis Hamilton as a Formula One driver. They were the measuring stick for so long, that they don't truly know what it means to suck. To be fair, they don't actually have it that bad, but there is a sense of entitlement built upon the greatness that they were used to. The entire organization (drivers, crew, facilities) has a part to blame for the failure to meet their own lofty expectations.
I've been wondering, couldn't Toto have a role like Zak ? Maybe have someone that has the skillset like Andrea Stella, James Vowles, and Ayao Komatsu as team principal.
How do you bring upgrades to a car you don't fully understand?
That's why they're not entirely sure if they will work
They are thinking within the mentality of the past and not the future as it is clear that times have changed and it seems the operations within the Brackley-based team haven't
Both Lewis and Mercedes are stuck trying methods that were good in the past, but aren't effective currently
I'm curious how all toto and lewis' complaints and down talking of the car are affecting the average Mercedes employee. Not only is it publicly calling them a failure, but it is ratcheting up the expectations that the longer they go without a race winning car, the harder they should work. I think it's bad management to let expectations spiral out of control like this, I would guess a lot of engineers are feeling burnt out and unappreciated.
Also this idea of lewis being "betrayed" is silly. He asked for the moon, basically a pension plan from Merc, and they said no thanks. That's just business, you ask for things and sometimes it doesn't work out. Lewis is the one who betrayed the team that gave him 6 wdc, idk why Merc would have to give anything more to him when they've already done more than any team in history, Michael only got 5 titles from Ferrari after all.
Well said
annoys me how in the past they judged other companies for being critically negative about their own cars but now they're doing it but much worse
This car is literally ruining careers⊠imagine thereâs part of the car thatâs actually brilliant and youâre head of that section⊠nobody is calling looking for you to take a larger role at Williams, Aston, or Ferrari.
Personally i think it was shortsighted for mercedes not to take lewis's ambassador deal separate from the racing because kind of like the taylor swift of f1, he has a legion of wildly dedicated fans and his brand is pretty big
I doubt Steven and Debbie down at the factory are really on depression watch because the guys at the top are moaning đ people have more going on with the lives đŹ
Merc keep telling themselves that they are just one bad weekend away from winning again. This mentality needs to change and it needs to change from the top. They are currently a midfield team so they need to do a big mental change to accept this and focus on climbing back up again. Hamilton is not going to risk throwing himself into a barrier to get 7th place when he already has a better seat for next year. George will as he wants to beat Hamilton. I honestly don't think that Hamilton cares about this season.
Until Merc get their correlation sorted, they are all just pissing in the wind. Perhaps these crazy set ups are an attempt to see if anything matches the sim?
Merc needs to just focus on George at this time
Lewis locked up in qualifying and ruined his lap time got 18th, then finished 9th its not all the car as much as he tries to blame it.
You may have hit right on part the of the problem; Lewis canât adapt! Russel in the past had to squeeze all the performance out of marginal cars. Lewis was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He never had to struggle and develop his skills as he never had to develop & work his way up through the field of marginal cars into front of the field cars. Ron Dennis picked him at the very begging of his career & gave him a world class car. And if you listen to Fernando, got preferred treatment! So Lewis has had world beating machinery most of his career. He never had to struggle and develop those skills needed to adapt. Add to this the video I recently viewed on the type of individual Lauda was; and I think a great deal of the drop off in the performance of Mercedes was Nikiâs ability to drive that team!
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I'd love to see a multi time champ running in a team that's only just now coming around
I think he will get A win at Ferrari very likely at Italian grand Prix is his best chance to win next year
People are now seeing reality: Hamilton is not a good development driver. In his entire F1 career he has always had the good fortune to drive the best cars that someone else developed. McLaren was a front-runner when he joined them, and as they deteriorated he was not able to help, so he left to go to Mercedes. Merc had benefited from Schumacher working to improve the car, and had Lauda, a legendary development driver, as a team advisor. Not long after Lauda's death the team went into a downward spiral that resulted in where they are today. I know Hamilton fans will think this is heresy, but Hamilton is a good driver that can win in the best car, but when the car is poor is routinely outperformed by his teammate. Mercedes should have grabbed Hulkenberg when he was available, what he was able to accomplish at Haas in a short time was amazing, which is why Audi was so intent on hiring him. He could have given the team the direction on improving the car that they so desperately need. Hamilton going to Ferrari was good for the car manufacturer (stock price went up!) but will ultimately be bad for the race team.
@@AlexBarbu Also, Schumacher was able to make a car perform beyond expectations. Spain 1994 - his car was stuck in 5th gear and he still finished 2nd! Not to diminish Hamilton's ability to drive a fast car fast, a true leader can motivate a team to excel beyond what they thought they were capable of. Or to take a mid-pack car and put it on the podium consistently. Alonzo is another example of that.
I fully agree with this. Its hard to advocate to people that Schumi build Mercedes and Hamilton did not. Even though Hamilton is fast, he is not as refined as an Schumi, Senna, Lauda, Prost and I would argue Verstappen and Alonso.
forgot who said it but "he only knows how to drive from the front"
After Nikki it HAS been downhill ! Agreed
It's the engineer's job to develop a car based on what the driver wants it to do. Is max a good development driver? Did he make the RB17, 18, 19 or 20? man y'all expect too much from people sometimes.
Imo neither Lewis or Toto has any idea how to develop a bad car. They both want a final solution in one step, and thats why they failed 3 times in a row now. Also Toto in his not-getting-max ptsd is on his way to destroy Antonelli's career which is scary
Toto is the team principal, he manages how the team runs. He has nothing to do with developing a car. Lewis is the driver, he also has no idea how to develop a car, he is there to drive it the fastest way possible.
So driver feedback and team management doesn't matter in development? okay man what are you on?:D Just look at has what a difference a team manager makes in car development
@@TonVanDerAaLewis has to develop a car? lol he can only give feedback for which people called him out that he is not a engineer. But Russelâs feedback should have improved the car already if he is better
Hey Law i think that Lewis is unmotivated and feel totally disconnected to Mercedes
Half... A billion... Dollars...
Correct. From 2017 to 2020 they spent nearly 2 billion. More than any other team on the grid by a large margin. It's easy to Google and find these numbers but the teamLH members don't want to see that.
Hi I'm new here can someone explain why this guy does the videos on the attic thanks đđ
It's to contain my lofty thoughts
Haha! Itâs one of the great and beautiful mysteries of life. There is sometimes no reason! Just enjoy, itâs tip top content đđđ»
Lew-is a Whine-ilton
'Bono. My motivation is gone.'
My dude, about that glorious mane of hair - you are good timeline Binotto!
That being said, -ahem-, the Mercedes-Lewis season is going "ok, so if you want to scapegoat us, then we scapegoat you"
Have they got the F1 and Americas Cup plans mixed up>>>
So, Lewis getting them additional data in a different direction isnt helpful? I dont get it. If he is experimenting with a different setup, isnt that giving them more datapoints? If Merc is bad when Kimi sits in the seat, i would be hard placed to blame a driver. Maybe i didnt understand your point today? If he is focusing on his own race and finds a setup that works that is good for merc, if he doesnt, it lets merc know where not to go. Extra data points when your wind tunnel data isnt matching would seem like a good thing. Especially when the car is p6-p10 quality. Idk. Like i said, maybe i misunderstood.
@@AlexBarbu square wheels and stiffer anti roll bars don't even compare. You can try another analogy though, I'm always open to listen
@@jeanmakita3839 How about this: it's hard to understand what is affecting what when you keep changing the variables every test. To get a good understanding of how the variables affect the whole you can only change one variable at a time, keep everything else consistent, and run tests with that one variable multiple times. If Lewis had kept his sprint set up for the GP then he would have more relevant data on how good/bad that single set-up was than just one sprint race. If it was good, why was it good? What was it bad at? You need to run multiple tests before you move on to the next variable. (Obviously, there are many variables within a single set-up, and track conditions are obviously an uncontrollable variable but this is what I understood the problem as.)
@@dragonoax the sprint setup was a second off RedBull. He knew Ferrari and AM were not that low. George took that setup, and Lewis tried to find a setup that would get them some of that time back. George took the setup, so it's not like it disappeared. Where did George finish? 2 places in front of Lewis. I get what you're saying, but in the end, he missed out on what? 1 or two places? Pace was relatively the same, too. If they were fighting for championships I'd agree with you wholeheartedly, but that's not where we are. They are fighting to stay out the midfield and claw back into the top 3. When you don't have a grasp of a concept data points are the only currency to get your way out of it. I honestly don't see the 4 points being worth all this hooplah.
@@jeanmakita3839in nearly 40 yrs of watching this sport I canât think of any driver having his talent, abilities and success analysed, scrutinised, debated over, argued over as much as Lewis Hamilton. Itâs incredible the lengths people will go to affect some indiscernible version of intellectual reasoning to make a point about this man while leaving the point open ended enough to infer thereâs a reason to question the value of his achievements.
A Martian could be forgiven for thinking the man has still got a lot to prove.
They're always moving the goalposts đ
Get Law to 100K already!â€
I think not having Mick full-time as the reserve driver this season working at the sim on race weekends also hurt Mercedes. I remember last year that they would have a really awful Friday, and then do really well on Qualy and the race - well, as well as it could (the second or third fastest car on the grid). Usually, it's due to Mick and the team working overtime doing sim work and adjusting the set-up to what would work the next day. Then again, George and Lewis are the drivers and they should be giving more input.
Max and Newey to Merc and they will forget about Lewis in an Instance
George and Alex could get that winning championships faster than Lewis and George could. Can you think of two better drivers to help improve a car?
Well, Nico Hulkenberg for one...
IDK what is going on at Mercedes now. The driver who is staying with the team is still not taken seriously. The boss is still so in love with Lewis, that all he talks about or thinks about is Lewis. The car concept is changed more than 3 times in 3 years. I don't think that will change any time soon at this point. Everything is a mess, but that seems to be the norm at a lot of the F1 teams right now. Ferrari, Red Bull/Racing Bulls, Williams, Sauber, Haas and Alpine are either getting out of their mess or very much still in it.
Actually Toto is courting Max these last weeks..monthsâŠ.not LH
If you watch the coverage of the race weekend, Toto has no visible reaction to George at all, and big reactions to Lewis. So, yeah... That to me tells it all.
If we compare lewis and alonso, if we give both of them the best car, lewis can extract the ability of the car as much as 100% but alonso is slightly below lewis, let's say 98%.
But if given a slightly worse car then Lewis' confidence level drops dramatically and can only extract 85% of the car's capabilities, where Alonso remains consistent with 98%.
But lewis has a skill that alonso doesn't have, which is always getting the best car, while alonso gets the gp2 engine.
Alonso getting flamed once again for bad career choices đ
I would of lined the Mercedes up without any setup changes. You've just come 2nd in the Sprint in a car that's been nowhere near that in previous races.
Lewis won the majority of his championships with Bottas as teammate, in arguably the most dominant car of all time. It's interesting to watch him when he doesn't have such a built-in advantage.
You can say the exact same with Max against Albon, gasley and Perez.
At least Hamilton has beaten multiple world champions max has yet to do that.
@@MrFerrari458gto What are you even on about? There are multiple drivers on the grid right now that have won championships and the part that really bothers you is that Max beat your guy, multiple times and beat him bad. He makes Hamilton look like a cart driver
â@@TheEnigmaOfEvilYou can't read bud. Lewis beat teammates champions, not someone else in a weaker car.
@@afallenworld1581 he also lost as well .your point? comparing f1 stats of different eras is just stupid
Ok im back still love laws vids
Lewis is seemingly always behind Russell most of the time. He's not motivated but that doesn't take away Lewis being out driven by people like that 18 year old......
Not sure I understand. Why do they need data from two cars with the exact same set up and why is that better than having data from two different set ups. Maybe they lose more points this year by Lewis taking some chances but that canât hurt long term development if they have Georgeâs data anyway.
Lewis is not even trying, just complaining, heâs not behaving as a team player, so basically, heâs getting what he deserves.
They've suddenly got it figured out (for the umpteenth time), and are bringing something special (umpteen + 1) to the Miami sprint.
It's true because they said so.
Toto needs to bench LH and pick Kimi and give him a head start instead of trodding along with whining LH.
This is so obviously true. They currently have an employee who is whining constantly and not doing his job. He needs to be fired.
Surely this is satire
@@quigglyz He came third last year in the championship. What are you on about. The car is garbage.
@@tmyersf4He gets millions to drive that car, has âloyaltyâ on his arm but all he does is whine.
@@temp5782 All the top drivers whine . Only difference is when your favorite driver does it you call it "Pasion" or something along those lines. Its the midfield to back markers who've never had a good/decent car you could make a case for...maybe also guys who are contant with being 2nd drivers i.e Bottas, Perez etc.
NEW BORN??? Congrats, Law!
I feel bad for everyone at Mercedes-AMG but Toto. I feel giddy every time Toto complains
An interesting comparison, with all sorts of implications. Not least of which is the possibility that Merc's troubles have only just begun.
But where McLaren are wedded to F1 manufacturer teams are only ever in it for marketing, the reason I think they should be discouraged not courted - watch Merc leave the 'sport' most likely in the lurch if things don't pick up soon. (No honourable Honda departure, again, for them!)
Lewis? I'm no fan, but while I've come to dislike his 'persona' and think him capable of unthinking pettiness I don't believe he's knowingly bad.
No one wants that second Mercedes seat. We need Nikita Mazepin now more than ever.
There's a reality in football that being a great footballer doesn't in any way mean that person would be a good manager. I think Lewis is showing something similar when it comes to his car.
There is no doubt whatsoever Hamilton is one of the greatest drivers, and has shown many times to be good at making in-race strategy calls. One thing he was very critical of last season, though, was that the factory didn't listen to what he had to say about the design of the car. This season (reportedly) they did listen to what he had to say and took it on board, and the car has turned out no better - if not worse. Add to that his ongoing struggles in finding a setup that works and the impression being given is that for all Hamilton's qualities driving the car, and strategy calls - when it comes to the technical aspect of the car his abilities may be less than what everyone thought.
When you have a car that has a good base line then there is inevitably more margin for error when it comes to race setup than when the car is poor and the setup becomes relatively more impactful. As you say, maybe Lewis should focus less on figuring out how to get the perfect balance and just drive; not just because the tinkering hampers overall improvement but because Lewis just might not be as good as he thinks when it comes to that sort of thing, and that it's better to let the experts figure it out.
My take on what Mercedes really should do right now is a little controversial, but I think if they were intelligent they would loan Kimi to William and they would bring back bottas because it would give them a driver they familiar with that could be a guinea pig and a test subject for them to let them do all their experimental testing with. That way they could run George to try and get in the points well also still testing things on the other car and not sacrificing their junior by letting him get experience with, and build his confidence rather than destroying it while theyâre rebuilding and getting stronger.
If it was so simple to to tweek the car to winning races, don't you think that the bottom teams would also be racing at the front.... and how do you tell someone who thinks he knows everything what he should be doing ..... the credentials ? Mercedes gave him that so called credibility by giving him the fastest car, only reason for his years of winning. They need to listen to George , simply because of his results.
Exactly. The great hero, Fernando Alonso would have won a race more recently than 2013 too. And Schumacher would have won with Merc. đ€Łđ€Ł
They need to hire LawVS
I think âmessy divorceâ is the best way to view this - I donât think you can compare it to the situation with Vettel at Ferrari, because Vettel hadnât spent his entire career affiliated in one way or another with Ferrari, and there wasnât a close personal relationship there. Lewis has been with Mercedes longer than any other driver has raced for a single team in F1, and his affiliation with Mercedes as a power unit stretches even further back. Mercedes has been Hamiltonâs team and Hamilton has been Mercedesâs driver, and even when contract negotiations dragged on in the past, there was always the understanding and expectation that the relationship would continue and Lewis wasnât going anywhere.
And then, apparently without warning, suddenly that changed. For Toto, I think this hit much harder than simply having a driver decide to sign somewhere else. He feels betrayed. And, yeah, it affects him in the pocketbook as well.
But they canât just make a clean break and go their separate ways, because theyâre tied together until the end of the season. That might not be so bad if the car was still capable of winning races, and everybody could just be happy about successes, but thatâs not really the situation theyâre in at the moment. Iâm sure it doesnât help that every race weekend comments are made and questions are asked about Hamilton escaping Mercedes and getting into the faster Ferrari. I suspect the already long season is going to feel even longer for everyone at Mercedes.
People always say lewis brought Mercedes 6 championships but never Mercedes giving Lewis 6 championships. Onesided view.
Another point - most of the world really doesn't know who lewis is other than the motorsport bubble. If anything, Mercedes sales won't really be hit in any way. I feel like if people see Justin Bieber or some footballer going in a merc, it would catch more attention than lewis would. When people know ur attached to a brand ( by being a driver), it would have less weight as people know ur obliged to promote the brand vs. someone in another industry. This whole debacle about how merc will struggle without him is a little bit of a stretch and fan girling over him.
Well said
The reality for Wolff is that he's dealing with a mediocre #2 driver and a former champion who has mentally checked out. Lewis Hamilton is not "looking to improve the W15" (if anything, he's looking for a nice gaffe near Modena), he will be locked out from as much information as possible, considering that he will be joining Mercedes' arch rival. There will not be much improvement to look forward to for the rest of this season... big changes will be coming for '25 and that's what Wolff is focusing on, his priority now is clearly the new driver lineup and how to best accommodate hem.
Mercedes will support Lewis as much as they can. But if Lewis keeps underperforming, they might give antonelli a chance to get some low-pressure race experience.
You know I think Toto has completely missed the mark. He ought to declare a rebuilding year, and hire back Bottas. they know him, he knows the car, he is a 10 GP winner and countless podiums right behind Lewis. Set him and George up as equal drivers, and get back to getting some real feedback on the car. I bet they could knock on before the middle of the 2025 season, Offer Bottas a 1+1+ more deal, a year of driving, possibly a 2nd. then a brand ambassador deal after. Give Kimi Antonelli another season to get over 18 and some more experience in F2. We could have a Mercedes rebirth into fighting for wins and podiums. Valteri still has it and he is showing it in the Sauber this season.
It doesn't help that Hamilton has a low IQ regarding setup and strategy.
He tries the Russell setup and it doesn't suit him.
He overrides and argues with the engineers.
He pushes the individual gains that they make too far. Then passes the blame onto the whole Team. Meanwhile Russell is being fairly consistent and delivering useful points and usable data.
Brand Hamilton just expects the greatness to continue to come his way...because he is Lewis Hamilton.
God help Ferrari, Hamilton expects to win another title fairly quickly.
No non-existent sky fairies could help Ferrari because Ferrari helped themselves to a narcissist.
Do you think it's big brain move to find interesting setups which may help out in the future for HIM. If I was leaving the team next year I'd go creative to find what I like. Go yolo is much more fun than small tweaks of a known rubbish car.
George is the thing that invalidates Lewis's struggles as anything other than him falling off as a driver. His ego is out of control and he has let himself believe the yes man echo chamber he has created as his entorage. I know many of you love him but the reality is that he is just not that capable anymore, you will see when he gets to the Scuderia and does no better or only marginally better in that car. If it is the car then why is George not having exactly the same issues? Hint...it's not the car, or if you please not only the car
Just look at Bottas, he was a driving God in the Merc, and now if he makes it out of q1 it's a win. His skills didn't diminish, the car was not as good
@@SaabJitsu How do you know his skills have not diminished? You're assuming they haven't and stating it as fact to defend a point that makes no sense.
@@TheEnigmaOfEvil love how people seriously fall for the bottas actually being a strong driver meme
lol 2023 why Hamilton beat Russel lol . Russel should have outperformed him already .
@@TheEnigmaOfEvilhow do you Hamilton skills have diminished. He was p3 last year with Russel being 7th or 8th and yeah with the same car. This year Russel is still in same place lol and he has not performed like Hamilton from the beginning of the season. It is Hamilton or performing well but Russel havenât improved a bit.
10:10 thereâs a tax for that
They should have fired Lewis immediately when he announced his departure to Ferrari.
What if the car is actually good. Just George isn't really that good, and Hamilton is washed?
Lewis should have done more sim racing instead of photo shoots.
Complacency has really hurt Lewis
When Lewis starts prioritizing racing, instead of political campaigns and fashion shows, Iâll be sympathetic to his complaints. I just canât take modern Lewis seriously. Thatâs not ignoring his prior accomplishments in any way.
Protesting racism and standing for human rights should be the standard.
7 championships and 103 race wins but he doesnât take racing seriously
Get a load of this guy.
Also no one criticized Seb who was championing for the environment
Or Lando for his love of gaming
Or Carlos for his obsession with golf
Funny how those drivers can have lives but if Lewis Hamilton dabbles in stuff heâs interested in itâs a criticism
@@chiss4181 if you think he genuinely cares about these things, then you need a very good specialist. All he does is just brand building, doing what makes him more popular with very low effort. He did charities with ridiculous percentages, if you scale them down to an average person it is absolutely nothing.
@@chiss4181 he can devote his entire life to this when he leaves the sport and everyone aligned with his cause will eat it up. If heâs not #1 then itâs a distraction and nothing more
@@Takingyoutojail hence why I said I wasnât diminishing his prior accomplishments. Since you chose to understand this in your own way let me reiterate.
Heâs not #1 any more and if thatâs where he believes he should be, all of the hobbies, the noise, whatever you want to call it, should be secondary. Those other people you mention arenât in the position heâs in.
Maybe Lewis is working undercover to help Ferrari do better this season.
Brought this up a few videos back on here and was run outta cyberspace. Merc made Lewis and not the other way around. Head to head, Nico exposed him mentally. Jenson beat him in '09 with a car with a Merc engine bodged into the back. The 4 year run saw Merc simply spend thier way through issues and Bottas being compliant. Hell, that's a perfect example. At Merc, Bottas was outstanding, in whatever that green machine is it's hit or miss.
Lewis has had a top seat since day 1 and that's not an easy feat so fair play to him, but let's be real, he's a 2-3x champ at best on pure skill
Whatever makes you sleep well at night bro.
Constructors Make drivers and there's no exception to that rule.
â@@jkbzz so help me understand then. Did Merc not outspend everyone from '17-'20? Google it. Did Jenson not win the championship in '09 in a Brawn built for a Honda but fitted with a Merc? Easy to verify. Did Bottas not get 10 wins and a boat load of podiums while at Merc and now struggles to clear Q1 in a hopeless Sauber? Bottas' skills didn't diminish, the car he drove did. Look, spend 80 buck for the F1 channel and watch from '07 till today and you can see, if you're honest with yourself, that after Nico gave him the fight of his career for 3 years, Lewis was exposed and mentally beaten. Sleep wellđ
I'll say it again... Lewis can't setup a car! Mercedes, and Lewis have literally been saying this during each race weekend. Now other drivers are telling you but... Then... They must all be Max Verstappen fans. đđđ
So much hype on kimi antonelli, I think there are far more f2 champions that deserve that seat over antonelli! Can anyone explain to me the hype?
Bro, your uploads are crazy frequent. Howâs the ladder holding up? How about your calves ?