Dualtron X RION Race Edition | Racing the two fastest electric scooters
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- čas přidán 18. 07. 2019
- The Dualtron X and the Rion Race Edition showdown in this heads-up street race between the two fastest electric scooters in the world. We perform a few acceleration tests between the two scooters, and you can see the results in this video. We had limited time, but would love to take these scooters to top speed on a closed race track.
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I wouldn't be able to ride that Rion without giggling like a little girl. The downside is, I'd be dead in less than a week. What an incredible machine.
I love how annoyed he sounds everytime he overtakes him lol
Anyone would if they got beat over and over again on their expensive scooter 😅
@@AlienRides ye lmao but u got him beat after some miles and a few water puddles xd untill they make a waterproof version with more range
So mad
Rion FTW
Hey man - nice to see you here, loved your recent content on the Rion. Looking forward to doing a collab with you soon.
somebody opens their car door and you are screwed!
Maby someone who never drove two wheels
That’s my worst fear
The Rion will go right through.
I think we all know that
Damn that's the future racing over here
There is definitely a racing league coming soon - I'm sure we will find out more details about this soon.
I’m living vicariously through you brother! Unbelievably crazy fast. Ask me how many times I said Holy Sh!t! 😅 Love That scooter!
😂 yeah the Rion is crazy fast for sure. I’ll definitely be doing more videos of that scooter in the future.
You guys rock!!!!! But. For the sake of our passion. Try and do that far away from pedestrians!!
Yeah, definitely don’t want to endanger pedestrians. I think I’m going to need to become friends with someone with race track access 🤔
Keep ‘em coming, sir!
I'll try my best! 😊
That Rion scooter looks insane.What I would give to get my paws on one of those...
Ginger On Wheels yeah, it’s totally insane, you would love the power of something like this!
Wow so fast and light, next the weped 50 gt vs the thunder nice video.
Weped 50 vs Thunder would be an awesome test, great idea.
Awesome! Never doubted the outcome.
Yeah, at some point it basically just comes down to numbers, and it's clear that at either 80 or 100 volts, with 240 amps peak, the Rion is the undisputed king of speed. Dualtrons will always have a place in my heart for cruising around town, and I'm sure yours as well, but man getting a taste of that that power is addictive.
My favorite quote on these scooters from /u/htrr:
“The beauty and the beast. Hard to think of any two scooters in the same power class which are more different.
They both reflect perfectly their respective heritage. One the one hand the DTX is the logical evolution of the Ultra / Thunder freed from any weight constraints. More power, more range for a well-established clientele who crave long group rides. It adds real suspensions increasing comfort and versality and builds in support for all the beloved (LED) gadgets of future owners. The Rion on the other hand is clearly the product of a race mindset. Impeccable chassis, amazing aesthetics, top of the line brakes, carbon fiber everywhere to satisfy an absolute obsession for weight. Not much concern for polyvalence or comfort which would have required suspensions and they did not even bother with non-slick tires. She is for the well-maintained asphalt only.
I can see who the DTX is for and can see that these will be logging on a lot of kilometers on these really fast. However, not sure they will go with all the legislation popping up in Europe and elsewhere. I have more difficulties imagining who the Rion is for and can’t help but wonder if its primary audience is not for those seeking a social status symbol or occasional toy for thrill seekers. But, I have to confess that I would be far more interested in riding the Rion that the X.”
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yes folks I finally got to demo the Rion from last mile in sf, OMG so fast got it up to 57mph, very scary on the take off.
I wish you and people luck if they do, but I’ve seen so many broken scooters off of aliexpress I’m scared. Definitely do your research first and look for reviews. Ideally test ride the scooter before you buy, but I guess that’s hard with aliexpress models.
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist the batteries are pure garbage on all those weird sites among other things!!
Wow I like how silent it is! I'm gonna start saving to get one for myself
They are super silent compared to loud gas scooters, and tons of fun. Best purchase I ever made.
That is RAD !!! looks like its built for me and my crew! good video!!
kikuasov83 I’m sure you all would love it! Or even any kind of electric vehicle would be tons of fun!
I'm sure that someone has already commented. Two complete different Scooters. I will (and I am ) purchase the X any day over the Rion. I'm 6'4 240lb. Looking forward to the Adjustable Shocks and extreme stable ride of the X :) Great Video Man!
I think that’s the right move for heavier riders who crave range over speed. You won’t go wrong with the DTX, it’s. A great vehicle for sure. Still hoping that companies like Rion push Dualtron to release faster models in the future though 😅
I`m 6`2" More importantly I wear a size 13 shoe!!! What the hell kind of of scooter can I jump on and feel comfortable? I`ll pay any price
Placing an order now for a Rion RE90 - Long Wait Tho!!!
It will be a long wait, but it will be worth it. You're going to love it.
I wish these were a lil more affordable! So rad!! That tire squeal🤙
Yup, I don’t disagree. Hoping we see more competition from other scooter manufacturers to increase speed at lower prices so everyone can enjoy this.
I'm loving euc (electric unicycle) but that rion scooter is Hella quick bro
Thanks for stopping by. Got some Nikola Plus and Monster v3 videos planned soon :)
That Rion scooter looks awesome!
It's so much fun to ride. We have some more crazy videos with it coming out soon.
So wait ... that bird chirping sound was the tires spinning under throttle load?
diowil1 yup, it’s the sound of the Rions racing slicks spinning out and losing traction when accelerating.
O.. M.. G..!
Alien Rides but slicks have more grip than non slicks acordong to what I just read on a tire website... so...
FlyBr0 the racing slicks definitely have more traction, the Rion just has an insane amount of power to overcome that traction :)
How much is this
I wanna come and work with you guys ! You guys are living the dream 💪😎👊
Definitely stop by our shop some day in San Francisco
Congrats for your 10k subs mate. Respect! Love this video 👏📹 idk if I saw it yet, just wanted to say hi again 📽️🎞️👋
Thanks man, and thanks for all your support and enthusiasm in this space!
@@AlienRides highly recommended... See this one, u will like it czcams.com/video/1tnnn5MJ-Vw/video.html
What I don't like about it is the fact that u have little autonomy, no lights, no kick stand, not water proof, no horn, also no display or at least indicator of the battery voltage which is a huge minus. The only 4 pro's here are regarding the high speed, charging really fast in only 2 hours with amazing 10 amps, amazing high quality magura brakes, and also very good kilos, is somehow light.
Papp Sebastian Georgian yeah, gotta love the carbon fiber construction making it super light. I’ve heard some changes for some of these areas are in the works, video later this year ;-)
@@AlienRides still.... 7k euros for this product is tooooo muuuch.... I would give 1.6 to max 2k euros for such a scooter, let's be honnest, maybe it has amazing speed and all of that, but don't forget that autonomy is far more important than speed. Paying 7k euros for only 15-20 km range? No thank u. My etwow can do even more than that, for only 1k euros mate.
I wish you would have a speedometer on the screen with an accurate readout of your current speed..
Thanks for the feedback. I want to as well, I just need to find an accurate solution. I’ve had so many problems with fake speeds on GoPro, I’m going to look into garmin GPS soon.
@@AlienRides How about speed apps on smartphones?
@@twistedjiji I've had problems with those too, but maybe a combination of GoPro + smartphone would be enough? Definitely going to do some speed tests soon!
@@AlienRides Just use your smartphone got the GPS as it will use 4G or 5G for better quality and you can put it on screen with Dashware.
I did saw 48mph at one moment.
5:48 minutes in was the best reaction hahah 😊
Definitely didn't mean to use so much profanity, it's an honest reaction 😅 Sometimes I'll edit stuff like that out, but figured I'd just leave it in. Thanks for your comment.
Weight difference is insane, definitely an alien ride!👽💪
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so awesome!!! Deep breath....... cant wait to get mine!!!
stay tune for my crossing over episode..
You're going to love it when you get it! 👽🖖
I have a question what’s the range of the Rion and also have you managed to make a speed test.
These are great questions and we hope to perform some range tests soon. Only speed test is the acceleration test which you see here. Hope to find some nice race tracks in the future to test the true top speed.
Great video! I have to say the X looks large and unwieldy. Did you prefer the thumb throttle over the 'eye'?
Thanks. The DTX is a totally ridiculous monster, and that’s one of the reasons I love it. I’m used to the finger throttle, but I found both usable. I do think that the thumb throttle might be more comfortable for long rides, but need to ride with one more before I can say.
Awesome video!!!
Thank you! Tons of fun making this one as well.
Excellent reviews on electric ⚡️ scooter 🛴 man & tq for flashback me on this street coz I use to ride on my bike 🚲 Berkeley to golden gate yeeeeeepppppppp
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Thanks, Bay Area is just a great place to ride electric vehicles! ⚡️💪
I absolutely love this video, so cool
Wow amazing fast 😂❤
ashdavenport23 yup, the speed is insane! ❤️
Like to know who is the guy riding the Rion, he is driving that scooter very professional!
He is a really great scooter rider for sure, and is on the Rion team. I'll let him introduce himself here if he chooses to.
@@AlienRides Thx, I need him to teach me how to ride a scooter just like Rion in a professional way!! :)
@@staytogether27 I'm pretty sure this is him
m.czcams.com/video/F5Opl1llzWw/video.html he demos it in the video
Wow that's crazy fast man👍👍
They are both awesome scooters for sure, but the Rion is totally insane.
Me encanta como chillan las ruedas del rion cuando le ponen el max. Torque ufffff me enamore!!
Just out of interest do you know the battery cell and controller used primarly for Rion scooters? It seems it can pull huge power instantly with no ramp up!
Great content keep it coming where possible, thumbs up!
Thanks! I'm not sure if you saw our latest review on the Rion RE90, we go into some of the detail on it here: czcams.com/video/Nn-IqhezeZw/video.html
For battery it's using Molicel p42a, awesome cells with tons of amps. They develop their own controller.
@@AlienRides i did not see that video before commenting.
Just watched! Fantastic video and review, really, just awesome execution on that video.
Do they make their own motors in house in addition to their controllers?
They really are setting the bar in this category. Slick on road custom tyres, in house controller, best capacity size and current performing battery, carbon fibre mould for chassis, best hydrualic brakes for scooters and that throttle is just flawless.
Thanks for the effort you put into your channel, watching from the UK!
@@shifty277 they have told me they make their own motors as well. They’re definitely doing a lot more r&d than any other scooter company out there. Hope we get some better scooter laws in the UK soon.
@@AlienRides thanks for the reply. This is a huge key I think. If any manufacturer wants to stand out and be in it it for the long haul they should take more control of the controller and motor as well as chassis. Brakes, batteries and tyres leave to OEMs already doing a good job.
As for laws in UK, im in London. I hope they arent introduced as i'm imagining they will want users to pay a road tax or have full blown insurance. Right now pretty much everyone in London is riding Xaomi m365s and police are ignoring them on the road, helmet or not. Perhaps the helmet should be obglitaory by law and be stopped by police if not.
Once again thanks for the Rion coverage. Im in the process of moving from a Zero 9 to a Zero 10 next week.
Wow! It beat the DTX in the dust! Both still are awesome though.
maharlika mirasol yeah, distinct use cases for both. While they couldn’t be more different from each other, they are both awesome in their own regard.
Wicked quick. I'm just getting used to my emove touring. Lol.. I'd love to test ride this beast.
Yeah, the Rion is insanely fast and overkill for many, very fun though. Enjoy your emove and ride safe!
Dualtron x O 👑 dos patinetes ela tem que vir para o Brasil!!
Both are amazing scooters, hope you can ride them in Brazil some day. (Translated by Google)
Ambos são incríveis scooters, espero que você possa montá-los no Brasil algum dia. (Traduzido pelo Google)
It's like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Mclaren. All in all, great video!
Hah, awesome comparison. A rider would be luck to have either one!
Are you racing with the re60, re80, or re90 in this video?
This was the old RE80.
Hi and thanks for the video!
Rion products are just insane !!!!
Long life to them and to you!!!
Forza.
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They are awesome indeed. Thanks for stopping by!
@@AlienRides 👍👍👍👍😜no problemo, all the Pleasure was mine!!!! Forza!!!
I can’t believe that tire squeal! That’s crazy!
Yeah the power that little scooter has is insane. You have to try it out sometime.
Alien Rides would love to, but I’m with you, it’s scary!
That thing is ridiculous, cant believe how fast it is. How much it cost? I need one!
I think we all need one! 😅 You'll have to contact rionmotors.com to get a price quote, it largely depends on the configuration desired.
I really appreciate your videos but how do you justify running at such high speeds on bike and jogging lanes? The weaving in between joggers, and the one point in the video where you both passed a car on either side on a two lane road is highly unsafe and will only contribute to future legislation to harshly regulate and even ban these great scooters. I write this hoping that my eventual purchase won’t be a massive waste of money because my city will ban them because of videos like this. I see electric scooters as quad copters before they were over regulated too.
Thanks for your comment and the feedback. The joggers part was on a mixed-use path for both scooters/bikes/joggers, and we were not really going that fast around pedestrians. We all definitely want a bright future for personal electric transportation.
Nice vid thx,my next scooter will be the Rion,using D6+.
You're going to love the Rion when you step foot on it!
@@AlienRides you are so right 👍, I believe the Rion is the Ferrari & Rose Royce of scooters.
Jeezz that's insanely fast. The fastest I've driven an e scooter was like 25 m/h would love to try one though
These are way different than a typical commuter, but so much fun. 🛴💪
These are nice, but all I need to get around the city is the Speedway max 28mph and I'm on speed 2 which max goes 20mph and it's enough
Cool, sounds like you have the perfect scooter for your use-case. Not everyone needs these crazy race machines, but they're fun to know about :)
Tony Mykhaylovsky that’s way to slow man
I would still take the dualtron x. You have a heavier frame heavier components it's made for people who are 6ft 240 lb.
I don't think that race was fair where you had a kid who's a hundred twenty five pounds on that race edition.
That's fair, I think the Dualtron X might be a better choice for those bigger guys, but I have heard of guys who are 260 having a great time on the Rion.
Doesnt matter the rion would of still won
How awesome does the Rion have to be for the video author to say, "this thing scares the shit out of me" and he rides them all? Love it!
The Rion is so freaking awesome (both scooters are), but the Rion just feels amazing.
Yo Alien, I just got the Nanrobot LS7, have you tried any of this brand? I am highly impressed so far going on 100 miles
I’ve heard really good things about Nanrobot. Seems like you can get really good value from their scooters for sure. I’d love to review their scooters, hope they get back to me.
I'm sure it's just camera effect, but that X looks slower than my Thunder, but that Rion is laying waste to the X, so I know the Thunder ain't touching that.
xorbe2 having ridden both the thunder and the DTX, and still love riding both of them, I can say that speed-wise the Rion destroys the DTX. I find the DTX about 10% faster than the Thunder. The Thunder was still a great purchase though and I hope you’re having fun riding it.
@@AlienRides Hah yeah the Thunder is a kick in the pants. Not gonna lie though wrt the DTX, if I'm gonna ride around all day at less than 60 mph, I'd get a hooligan Honda Grom or Monkey! So many toys, so little time ...
I have a dualtron thunder and i have setting on max dual mode and i hit 51mph in like 6 seconds. But i still want to feel that Rion have to admit i love the design.
BEE MONEYZ yeah the thunder is a really versatile and amazing machine, I love mine. But wow, the power on the Rion is something else for sure.
I will definitely buy it for sure rare to find 80v escooters.
BEE MONEYZ I have a dualtron thunder and i have setting on max dual mode and i hit 51mph in like 6 seconds. But i still want to feel that Rion have to admit i love the design.
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BEE MONEYZ yeah the thunder is a really versatile and amazing machine, I love mine. But wow, the power on the Rion is something else for sure.
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I don’t know your weight, but I myself have a Thunder dualtron and I assure you that you can not take 6 seconds to go to 51mph it takes about 5 seconds to wait 31mph and more than 12 13 seconds to go to 43 mph I do 80kg more you must have your meter incorrectly set , change the size of the wheels in the menu
I guess both of those scooters have pretty different use case, I would like to try the Rion, but for cruising around a city I would love to take the Dualtron X.
Both scooters are really awesome for sure! I'm happy riding either around a city.
Wild ride in the Streets of SF..!! Going up those hills was NEVER that easy..! Are there races at Laguna Seca????
Yeah, a powerful scooter can definitely conquer any SF hill. I would love to race scooters at Laguna Seca, or a proper race track. I think we'll do something along those lines next year :)
👏👏👏👏👏👏.Edvandro do Rio de Janeiro Brasil
Nice I really love it, but to do it on city streets especially in San Francisco is dangerous. Especially to pedestrians.
I agree, definitely don’t want to put people in here. Thanks for your comment.
Awesome video! Can I ask which throttle setup you prefer? Lots of talk of people wanting to swap their Dualtron to thumb setup which I tend to agree would be more comfortable. Your thoughts?
At first I wanted a thumb throttle, but then I started reading about how the finger throttle was better for control since you have your thumb around the handlebars. I never ended up looking to make the switch. I think it's really up to personal preference.
Good video. I have a question. Is the Dualtron X stable at high speed without a seat? Don't get rid of wobbly driving without a seat?
It was generally super stable for me, though I occasionally got some weird oscillation in the front tire, possibly my suspension was not tuned correctly. I don't know if the seat helps stability or not tbh.
What I can say that shimano xt breaks are alomost top tier, this thing must be expensive.
Ah, yeah you already know about the shimano XTs huh 😅 Pretty sure everything on the scooter is equal quality, definitely not cheap.
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist Lol, I get zero income as stated in another comment 🤷♂️ I just like fast toys. I haven't seen any other alibaba scooters smoke the Dualtron X like the Rion did. I definitely don't want to push false information in any way. I'll try to gather some facts for you, including where the controller/hubs come from - would be good to know that.
Martyr4JesusTheChrist cool to know that you are talking with Rion and I’m always happy to meet people who know about EVs. Some of the Dualtron are really crazy, I’ve seen modded ones hit 150kmh or more. These are heavily modded though.
7k for a e scooter tho can buy a whole heap of stuff with that amount
That e scooter can go 80+mph tho, with little to no maintenance. If I wasn’t broke asf I would buy one.
I'd rather buy a car lol
Insanely fast! 👍
Fast and fun ⚡️💪
Nice comparison!
Both are awesome scooters for sure. ⚡️💪
Where can I buy the rion race edition. I can’t find on their site or 3rd party sights. Please send me link or info. Thanks
Update: If you want a Rion now the best way is to use the "AlienRides" coupon code for a discount at: bit.ly/fastscooter
How many miles per one charge ?
Satpal Singh well the Dualtron has a massive battery which is why it’s so heavy, but should get you about 50 miles range. The Rion is much lighter but should still get 25 miles range or so.
I get goose bumps just watching this thing.
Try riding it some time.
@@AlienRides maybe if it came with a roll bar, roll cage and some training wheels, yes. :D
55lbs with all that motor is insane!!!!
Well the dualtron x is only on 60v while the rion is in much higher voltage than 60v If you want speed you need to up your voltage. Hence the rion wins over dualtron x in terms of speed
Yup, absolutely correct. We wanted to test that out though. I’m also hoping that Dualtron makes a 72v or 80v version in the future as well.
@@AlienRides u can always get it in singapore ;) keep it for collection
@@Ahxiang99 Yeah, I should totally import one, or bug the Tune Extreme guys to make one for me 😅
@@AlienRides yup make one for u :p its nice to use
I love the build quality and looks of my Hollyburn P5. Companies are focusing on speed but what about safety. Have fun and be SAFE.
I think its hysterical that everyone thinks u didn't have the settings maxed out, lol. There's always something bigger, better and faster! Good try though!
😂 There will always be doubters. I'm not going to lie, I love Dualtrons and I doubted the Rion too until I tried it myself. People know I push my scooters to the max if they watch my other videos. One thing is for sure though, I will never lie to make a scooter/vehicle look good. Next time I might run through the settings though on video to prove it to people. Thanks for the comment and support.
@@AlienRides so when are these going against the so called "dualped" LMFAO!!!
@@roscalalmodovar6584 That's a good question - I don't think the results would be very different, but I'd love to make some videos on the Dualped. I'll have to reach out to them to see if they can send us a temporary demo unit.
@@AlienRides yeah the Dualped Scorpion plus supposedly is the "fastest" production scooter. Hitting 60mph
Did you have the Dualtron on level 3 and do you have the limiter disconnected and two wheel drive. I have the Thunder and at level 2, limiter disconnected and 2 wheel drive, I get to about 45mph before I back off cause it’s scary fast at that speed.
Yup, everything was maxed out. Interesting that you get to 45 mph on level 2, I get those speeds, but only at level 3. The Rion just has more voltage and watts. I still love my Thunder though, great long-distance cruising scooter.
Did the Rion feel refined? Does it handle the speed well? That is important beyond just speed
Yes absolutely, it's the only scooter i want to ride at high speeds. :alienRides:
The Rion does not look comfortable though. I would bag the Dualtron just for the suspension alone.
Yeah, the Rion comes from a race mindset where you always want to feel connected to the road. Something like a Dualtron is more comfortable if you don't want to feel the bumps for sure.
Wolf warrior scooter 97 km/h try it.
On my list of things to try for sure. Hoping we can borrow one for a few days to make videos on, no luck yet but will let you know.
Do you feel like the lack of suspension on a Rion is pretty significant ? How does the other brand compare in terms of comfort ? Would you basically say Rion is for performance fun, speed and race (+status) and the other one is more comfort oriented ?
I think what you said is spot on. The Dualtron X is like riding on a cloud and super comfortable, while the Rion is built for racing, fun, and thrills. I would not consider the Rion to be a comfort ride, due to the stiffer suspension, and acceleration that almost rips your arms off, but damn is the performance is amazing, and it's so much fun to ride.
Is there a speedometer on the Rion??? Great video brother!!!
Thanks! I don't believe that the Rion has a built in speedometer, but they are working on an app which will display the speed. So you can mount the phone to the handlebars and have a digital speedometer, should be nice.
$3600 OUCH!!! You can buy a car for that much!
I think these scooters cost more than that, and yeah, they’re not cheap, but they’re a ton of fun. Hopefully the prices come down a bit in the future.
dude this is a good fkn video i want a rion so badly now tho damn
Yeah, I do too, hopefully we can all have one some day 😅
@@AlienRides lmao
@@AlienRides rion has no front suspension?
Perry Goldstein nope, but the back tire does
What kind of helmet are you using? Also what do you think of the apollo scooters? Otherwise very good review man thanks
I'm using the Fox Sports Proframe, I like it because it's super lightweight. You can find it here: amzn.to/2LOGlm3
The apollo scooters are really nice! They do a great job customizing the same scooters the power the zero line. I've reviewed the apollo city so far, and have a few videos lined up to review some of their other models later this year.
That Rion will never be beat easy it's totally design perfect for speed and stability not to forget weight is our enemy in racing I like to keep my bikes on the 80lb diet that 150lb solid X need 30 bhp to be a true rocket
$6.000 a price tag? very expensive
It's not cheap, but it's at the peak of what's possible for scooter performance. Not everyone will buy it for sure though, given the price tag.
www.mrscooter.shop has them on a stupid sale. I ordered mine a month ago got it last week
@@prestonblankenship5158 thanks a lot...you just saved me $3,000
@@prestonblankenship5158 do you have a phone number for the Mr. Scooter link?
BUD WHITE i DONT have a phone number for it but it’s www.mrscooter.shop
At 40mph and up you will prob end up in the E.R. 😅
I agree, it can definitely be dangerous to ride at these speeds, one of the reasons we encourage lots of safety gear. Even still though, each time we go out to ride we take a risk.
@@AlienRides these scooters are awesome would love to have the rion,but why do people say it is not good to drive at 40 mph?isn't scooter made to handle High speeds?
@@derekagard because the wheels are so small, less maneuverable at high speeds compared to a bicycle... bike wheels have more inertia to keep you upright, and I doubt you can lean into a turn as far without flipping over. Biking one handed is also very easy (inertia of front wheel keeps you going straight) with these little wheels you cannot really scratch an itch because you're holding on hard. Smaller wheels are more compact though, I guess it's a tradeoff.
Hey nice video man 🙌🙌 btw how is that helmet you wearing is it comfortable? Is safe enough to riding Escooter? I like the way it’s shaped not like motorcycles helmets.
Thanks! It's a downhill mountain biking helmets. Personally I think that something DOT rated is a must if you're going to be traveling fast. I should upgrade. 👽🖖
@alienrides I’ve been thinking of upgrading from a DT3 to either a thunder or X. Is there a big difference between power and riding from going from a DT3 to a thunder and also going from a DT3 to an X? I like the X but I’ve got a couple of steps I’d have to carry it up everyday which may not be too fun. So I was thinking of the Thunder but not sure I’d notice a large difference between that and the 3
I don’t think you would notice a huge difference between the DT3 and the thunder tbh, you would on the X though. But if you have to do stairs I would never carry the DTX up those. Are you looking for more speed over the DT3?
@@AlienRides Yeah that's what i figured... Maybe I'll build a ramp for it ;-) it's only 2 steps
Can you imagine falling of? This is not 4 your average joe.
Luckily they are both very stable at speed, but yeah, I would not want to fall off one of these scooters. 💀
Falling off would hurt so bad. I fell while riding my Qiewa Q1 Hummer and broke my hip.
Dualtron CAN'T win with it's weight being triple than the Rion!!! You can try and try, won't change a think. And you were not "smoked" since you're racing in 2 different categories.
Haha, that's true, very good point. Both Dualtron and Rion are awesome, but in different categories like you said. That said I'm super excited by some rumored faster models for both Dualtron and Rion. I think the competition could be more interesting later this year.
Alien Rides thanks to you and Electric Scooter Guide (watched nearly all your videos) I’ve made up my mind about the best scooter for me, after reading and checking nearly all the major sccoter brands.
1- Since I’m moving to NY, my commute from home to my office ( BayRidge Brooklyn to Dumbo) will be a minimum of 22km per day back and forth .
2- I’ll go for pneumatic tires front and back, 10 inches size for maximum confort
3- Max load over 130kg, since I weight around 100Kg
4- Real Autonomy of at least 40km
5- Max scooter weight of 30kg
6- Front and rear suspensions
7- Front/rear hydraulic disk brakes
8- Horn/indicators
I guess the best sccoter for me is the Emove Cruiser. Do you beleive this is the right choice? Your imput will be truly appreciated!
@@marwancabbabe hard to say, that's a hard set of requirements for sure, but the Emove cruiser could be a good fit. Personally I think you might enjoy a dual motor scooter a bit more, possibly something like the Kaabo Mantis, but nothing wrong with starting out with something like the Emove. Good luck with your decision!
Alien Rides thank you and I aggree, nothing very exciting with the cruiser - design, thrill etc - but it'll do the job as a first scooter. Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited about the Dualtron 3 or the Zero 10X but I don't believe they're a smart choice for NY. I'll check again the Mantis.
That Rion flat right past the Dual Tron wow no contest .
Yeah, it's insanely powerful. Definitely check out our latest review on the RE90 if you haven't.
@@AlienRides I watched that a few days back ..great review and amazing scooter !!
Woah that scooter is monster was you using it as a demo ?
Both are monster scooters. I’m borrowing the DTX to make video on currently, and the Rion RE80 is owner by Sophia.
@@AlienRides nice that's awesome I would love to ride Rion e scooter
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Okay that was just painful to watch...the motion looks like you switched from the scooter to a donkey!!! 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
😅 Luckily it handled the off-road section fairly well! It's got a pretty sweet suspension.
I think the expression is: "It kicks like a mule" XD
The Rion is faster then the Dualtron X but it doesn't have the range of the X.
GSX1340R Right that’s what I was thinking with all that power it will drain the battery really fast. If they got batteries with larger capacity I would consider buying it.
@@cheeveka3 My thoughts exactly, I'd rather have range than super high speed.
You’re absolutely correct. They’re almost at opposite ends of the range/weight spectrum. Both excel at what they’re made for though. Some day I hope to have both in my scooter stable!
Listening to the tires chirp while coasting, that thing is insane. Still, ride it for a month and you'd want more. :)
Will C yeah I can totally see that, the power is totally addictive. Still though, this was the first scooter I didn’t dare to max out right after jumping on. It’s awesome and I’d love to get used to it.
Hello ... Are Rion models safe to drive in the rain? I mean if the internal components are protected against water when driving ...
Nope, can't ride them in the rain at all. If they so much as see a drop of water they explode. 👽🖖
Would love to see that Rion drag race the new King GTR or the Slack Core 920r. That would be tight
1 hour later the rion dies
Yup, it would not win a range comparison in the current configuration. Some new batteries in the works though, should be interesting to see what happens next year,.
@@AlienRides if they can sort the battery thing possibly have two modes for longer battery then it would sell. I'm just curious about maintenance what needs to be done periodically for up keep? And if Dultron came out with a race edition that would ge great.
Steve Kioussis we get as maintenance goes I think it’s the same as other scooters. Mainly air pressure, tires, and brake pads. I think we’re going to see innovation from both companies in the future including faster Dualtron, and longer range Rions.
stop signs are for everyone x x x
I missed the memo 😞 I’ll see you all after jail time.
Damn! those things are fast!
Fast, practical, and a ton of fun. 🛴💪
Ok, maybe these specific models aren’t the most practical ones, being both heavy and extremely fast, but nothing id rather ride 😁
Was that the race edition? I thought I saw a caption that said it wasn’t but then heard later on it was the race edition
Brett Hamlin one of the rions, the Sophia’s rion, is the race edition. 🛴🚀😍
Yeah, you got it TimeSeries, nice deduction. We had one of each there, I should’ve been more clear in the video.
LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks bro! I love it too, but not losing so badly 😅
Where can i get rion scooter?
Let me know thanks
Where can u buy the rion race edition I can’t find a site
Update: If you want a Rion now the best way is to use the "AlienRides" coupon code for a discount at: bit.ly/fastscooter
you guys are nucking futs. what town was this filmed at? N Cali somewhere?
Hah, exactly. San Francisco specifically.